A Tribute to Sergio Romo

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Greek Giant

Sergio Romo was a good Giant. I will miss his beard and wiry frame. I will miss his cold-blooded killer mentality on the mound. While his 2016 season was respectable in many ways, it will be hard for me to forget the strange smile of embarrassment on his face when he was removed by Bruce Bochy in that ninth inning from hell in Game 4.

Let’s instead focus on happier times.

The Strikeout

The Battle With Jay Bruce

 

The Mexico native with a heart of gold was indefatigable for most of his Giants career. It will be hard to imagine him in another uniform if the Giants do not re-sign him. His splendid curveball and cut fastball barely broke the 86 MPH barrier. He was effective with both pitches always attacking hitters and never giving in. When he was a set up man for Brian Wilson and Santiago Casilla he was no less effective. The Giants bullpen was close to unstoppable from 2010-2015 and Romo, part of the core four, was a big part of that success.

When you can bring in a pitcher like Romo for the 8th and a Wilson or pre-2016 Casilla for the 9th, you are going to win that game. Romo was a pitcher who was effective, downright nasty at times, with his command and used as a complement to harder throwers like Wilson, Strickland and Casilla.

There is no official word yet on Sergio Romo’s next move. It seems that in this lukewarm free agent class and with a trend toward younger arms, Romo may still have a shot at returning to the Giants. We shall see. For now, let’s remember the immortal words of Matthew: “Romo looks like a kid dressing up as Romo for Halloween.” In other words: Romor has not only an unusual build for a professional athlete, he also possesses a certain youthful demeanor wearing his emotions on his sleeve. His humility and his killer instincts on the mound were crucial to the Giants postseason success.

I miss that beard already!

When does Spring Training start?

 

  • Breckeroni says Serge has 3-5 more years left in his no dot slider arm

    • Keep’n It Real

      But will those be effective years? Jobu says no.

      • For the Angels – yes

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          or Dodgers?

          • The Brawley kid might be too non-sentimental for the Doyers

          • totalfan62

            Romo was always so self-effacing. Even after his stellar work in the 2012 World Series, he said “not bad for a beaner from Brawley”. I also remember from the Showtime series “The Franchise” (2011), when he was tagged with carrying the kiddie backpack holding the bullpen pitcher’s gum and candy: “if I’m carrying the candy bag, that means I have a spot in the bullpen, and I’m good with that.”

          • That is why I defended him when he weasel faced Bochy. Over achievers – especially from other persuasions – ESPECIALLY coast-side kids from HMB have ODD and weird ways of showing their nervous energy. When I first started coaching at 27 yrs old – I took ALL OF THAT – wrong. People are all different. The first thing I learned – even from reading Bill Walsh’s books is that yes there is a set of TEAM rules but you MUST treat each player differently – yet the same. Casiila did the Storm Trouper disrespect walk while Romo shrugged his skinny shoulders – held glove to mouth and gave Boch the Weasel.

            Bottom line is how Bochy handled it.

          • Matthew

            This is the longest TO has gone without sparking on a Pro-Bochy!

            Progress

          • Maybe it was lost in translation

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      How about Brad Ziegler? How many more can he go to the well?

  • Keep’n It Real

    MLB Trade Rumors ‏@mlbtraderumors 2m2 minutes ago
    Astros To Sign Josh Reddick http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/11/astros-to-sign-josh-reddick.html

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      En Fuego!

      You and Houston …. we have lift off!

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      4/52

      How would Giants fans feel about that?

      What’s Matt Holliday gonna run? 2/25?

      • Keep’n It Real

        I’ve seen 1 YR/$10M and 1 YR/$15M projections

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          & would get about the same amount of production as Trumbo at the plate because he can usually work a high obp.

          • Doughnut

            Really bad on defense too. But I like putting a bat like that in the middle of the order. He can hit.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            I think Bo Evs really wants to put a pro big bat in the middle of the lineup.

          • Doughnut

            1/10 and 2/25 seem like a bargain

    • Efrain

      and they got McCann too. Both good moves, that young team needed some veteran presence in the clubhouse.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        they need another pitcher – too much middle rotation material, Keuchel has to get back to CY form, McCullers needs to rebound too.

  • Drake got his feelings hurt last night when DayDay mocked his Davy Crockett boots….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od1O2E1nMf0

  • totalfan62

    No matter your opinion of Sergio Romo’s overall body of work, you gotta tip your cap. He was part of our bullpen for nine seasons, and as we all know a key member of the Core Four. He was a good Giant. Thank you, Sergio!

    • 13 Thumbs Up

    • The Oracle

      How could anyone not have a good opinion of Romo’s body of work?

      • Check the mirror.

        • In managing men like Pagan and Romo – one takes the whole package. As a Skipper you are not allowed to hold a grudge because one gives off a weird body language and the other does not hustle out a ball…..

          • Lunch_Box

            Are you talking about that incident this past season where Romo had a WTF expression after Bochy took the ball from him and called in another arm to pitch from the BP?

          • All his mannerisms and expressions are born out of some adolescent way of handling adversity that he is not/was not use to. Managers do not hold that against professional ball players – Managers just “move on”.
            Intent is maybe more important.

    • Doughnut

      In his prime, he was one of the best in the league. Especially when the league didn’t know much about him. Crazy good numbers for several years

    • Lunch_Box

      I’m going to hate to see him not resigned. I didn’t care for his show boating on the field (not too excessive and didn’t care for the “that’s what’s up” slogan), but I’m grateful that he helped this Giants organization win three championships.

      Best of luck, Romo.

  • DrLefty

    I know there were some off-the-field issues with Romo, and I know he got too longball-prone in his last couple years. But his work in the 2012 postseason, especially the World Series, and especially that last out, will stay with me forever.

    I have this photo in poster size on my office wall. I love that Miguel Cabrera can be seen slumping away from the plate along with Buster and Romo celebrating. It really captures that moment. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fea6aa5ef33275f78c9bc2044102c43aa083228963338b22d74cfd6ed8ae503d.jpg

    • Mr. Sarcastic

      That was the SI cover photo too!

  • Bail-o Yo Ho.
  • John Myhill

    Actually he’s lived his whole life in the u.s.

    • Efrain

      yes, he is as American as any person on this blog.

      Of course some most likely can’t wrap their head around that.

      • channelclemente

        Here, you are so full of it.

    • paul in p.v.

      Right on!

  • channelclemente

    The ‘schniff test’ in baseball data.

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/the-physics-of-statcast-errors/

  • radicalpro

    Trout and Bryant win MVP. Not a surprise for Bryant. Trout only in the sense that there is always a dichotomy in whether or not the team should be a winning team vs going strictly by numbers. Both well deserved in any case.

    And per Alex:
    Brandon Crawford finished 12th in NL MVP voting. Posey, Bumgarner and Cueto also received votes (voters list 10 players).

    • channelclemente

      Most of the experts thought Mookie Betts would get the award. They’ve gotten accustomed to Trout getting screwed.

      • Mr. Sarcastic

        Trout the only player to finish 1st or 2nd in MVP voting in each of his first 5 years. Too bad he’s stuck on a go-nowhere team. I read somewhere that the Yankees were stock-piling all those young prospects in order to pull off a massive trade for Trout. That would be cool …

        • radicalpro

          I read that too. I’d hate for Trout to go to the Evil Empire but would be oh so curious as to what the return would be for a trade of that magnitude.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            Right? That would be something to see…

          • Efrain

            I’d hate for Trout to be a Yankee only because I hate the Yanks.

        • channelclemente

          The Cubs are interested too, it seems. Trout, Bryant, Rizzo is a little scary.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            Ummm, that’s a LOT scary…

          • channelclemente

            There is a 5-6 player trade being talked about topped by Baez and Schwarber.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            Makes sense .. Schwarber has DH written all over him

          • channelclemente

            A major do over on the back of a $144 million dollar contract. It’s a whole new team that’s probably immediately competitive in what is a salary dump. SMH.

          • earlytimes

            Those rumors have been out there since May.

          • channelclemente

            Maybe, but they have the ring now, and tomorrow’s hill just gets steeper with their pitching decline. Cubs fans expect at least 2 more. The monster is loose, and the goat in on the BBQ.

          • Efrain

            I read on of the proposals and it was something like 7-8 players for Trout, including Schwarber and a few other young Cubs.

            I don’t know much about the Angel’s farm system, but that one haul could really boost the franchise.

            Trout is Mr Angel, but would suck to have arguably the best player of his generations be stuck on a losing team for a long time.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            These reports are bogus. Angels are intent on trying to win while they have Trout and Pujols by hoping their pitching comes back to form.

          • Efrain

            did you forget they are in the position they are in because of the ridiculous contract to an over the hill Pujols?

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            Nope, but they’re gonna take a shot with what they have, specifically that MVP guy.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Yah, Craw deserved that recognition. He truly has a become a carrier caliber player – doing most of the work with his glovework up the middle, but also leading the team in Rib-Eye steaks.

  • Mr. Sarcastic
    • Efrain

      that’s perfect for the Giants of late:

      1) carry 13 man staff for 2 plus years

      2) Don’t seem to have any top level farm talent that can be counted on for a September run.

      • Matthew

        No kidding! Those recent ones this decade have been…..

        • Efrain

          name a difference maker in the past three years other than perhaps Duffy, who is no longer on the team, that actually made a difference down the stretch?

          I mean, that is what it’s used for, to provide a shot in the arm and provide some more depth right?

    • dgg

      Good. About time.

      “The players and owners are discussing the expansion of rosters from 25 players to 26 in exchange for September roster limits, according to sources familiar with the collective-bargaining negotiations.

      Under the current rules, teams on Sept. 1 increase their 25-man active roster to the entire 40-man roster. The new limit likely would be 28, and the rules would permit teams to swap out players, though not on a daily basis, one source said.”

  • Matthew

    After The Strikeout, at the parade, as he was dancing down the street in his “I Only Look Illegal” T Shirt, he gave Beauty a fantastic and energetic high five. She was like that kid in the Iguodala ad last year…she didn’t want to put her right arm down or wash it for weeks….oh, she did, but what an exciting moment for her after HIS most exciting moment in his career.

  • John Myhill

    Gotta give casilla a post like this, gg. It’ll be tough, the fall from what he was (6th lowest era in the majors 2010-4) to what happened last year, but he’s going and we gotta remember the great things he did.

  • channelclemente
    • Matthew

      Stranger In A Strange Land fits these days, too….

      Hope you’re well, Brother

    • paul in p.v.

      What a unique singer. Saw him live in K.C. around 2002 – he did my Dad’s favorite Don Gibson song:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5quUADNSKTI

  • 610nm

    I’m already feeling miserable about the idea that GG is working up a “Gregor Blanco was a great Giant” post.

    • Mr. Sarcastic

      I’ve got a feeling Blanco will be back…

      • paul in p.v.

        Hope you’re right Sarcastic – but Gorky’s younger and cheaper – just like Gearrin is cheaper (younger too?) than Sergio.

      • dgg

        Really, Mr. S? I hope you’re right. Oh. Paul already said this.

        p.s. You know, I think of you more as Mr. Sincere instead of Mr. Sarcastic.

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          “wrong”

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        Mind if I rub on you with some Beatles?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztIEogFr9j4

    • dgg

      I know. You can definitely detect a theme here.

    • I already did!

  • crawnik

    I got you GG. Pitchers and catchers, presumably report in 84 days.

  • Matthew

    Reddick to the Astros…might like the porch

  • dgg

    Trump is going to do “a victory tour.” Now THAT will unify the country.

    The only funny part of this announcement was when they said he won’t be touring California.

    • paul in p.v.

      El Caudillo. Every day gets worse.

      • paul in p.v.

        p.s. He just apptd. Michael Flynn (Curtis LeMay Jr.) as Nat. Security Adviser. If you don’t remember Curtis LeMay, George Scott played him in Dr. Strangelove.

    • Bail-o Yo Ho.

      A victory tour? Hopefully to another galaxy, one way ticket.

      • paul in p.v.

        A victory tour around a country he lost by a million votes.

        • Lunch_Box

          I like that most of those who are supporting the electoral college are those who also supported it in 2000. Look at the other idiot that filled the position of Commander in Chief.

    • Michael Scott

      Trump had said that Clinton’s secret service bodyguards should just drop their guns and see what happens. Hmmmmmm…

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      That internet troll should just do a virtual tour. Much safer for everybody.

    • DrLefty

      Gosh, you’d think he’d have other things to do, like hire a staff and learn how to be president.

      • Lunch_Box

        He is hiring a staff…consisting of individuals who aren’t qualified to fulfill the position they’re being appointed to…just like him.

    • The Oracle

      I guess he should just cower in shame?

  • Michael Scott

    A few ideas for the feast:
    The bird-make a bread stuffing as you usually do, but bake in a casserole dish. Now the best part- stuff the turkey with a sauerkraut dressing.This is very simple and soooo good. Sort of Amish, I guess.
    1 cup chopped yellow onion, sauteed until golden
    1 cup raw grated potato
    2 Lbs sauerkraut , well drained
    1/2 tsp. caraway seed
    1/4 tsp. pepper
    A couple splashes white wine
    Just mix it all together and stuff the bird with it. This is for a 14-16 lb. turkey. I don’t truss it but if you are into bondage, go ahead. I do close the vent with a heel of french bread. The drippings that you get from the bird are dark and rich- add your stock and thicken to make the most delish gravy ever. Serve both stuffings, of course.Questions? Ask Mikey.
    *Green Bean Salad
    Boil fresh green beans until tender but still crisp. Drain and cool in ice water, and then drain and pat dry. Toss with a balsamic dressing ( make your own or Paul Newman is a good brand.) Add some crumbled blue cheese and halved cherry tomatoes. That’s it.
    *Here I cheat- use the recipe on the Dark Karo Syrup bottle for a pecan pie but use walnuts.
    * I’d round out the dinner with fresh cranberry sauce w/some grated lemon zest, “smashed” Yukon Gold potatoes, drop biscuits, and a Sweet Potato Pie. A Pinot Noir Is nice, but for me it’s my 2% Clover.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      This generous of you, but we already know that you’re generous man. All the best to you on Turkey Day.

      • Michael Scott

        Too generous. I let Merna eat some of my Nut Goodies and now I’m out until Monday.

    • DrLefty

      I do green beans with cherry tomatoes as part of my Christmas menu. The red and green, you know. I usually throw in a few sauteed mushrooms and some garlic, but a balsamic dressing sounds good, too. And crumbled goat cheese instead of bleu cheese, which I can’t stomach.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        I need to cook up some “quiche” for the work potluck tomorrow. Gonna go pick some kale from the garden to be the star of the dish. Other than that, pretty basic, elementary cooking. Gonna crisp up a Pillsbury pie crust, then saute some potatoes with onions, throw in some ham, with the kale, then fill with egg batter and then top with grated swiss cheese. Boom tasty calories with some vegetable factor. Better get on this…

        • DrLefty

          That Pillsbury crust is a lifesaver this time of year.

      • Michael Scott

        Feta sounds good for the Green Bean Salad. BTW, have you tried the frozen whole baby green beans? They’re good, often better than fresh, if the fresh are looking a tad funky.
        Are you the Chef for the dinner? Your food comments always sound delicious. We seem to have quite a few accomplished cooks here.

        • DrLefty

          My sister and brother-in-law are hosting Thanksgiving in Napa this year, and I’m bringing several dishes and coming early to help cook. My mom usually does Thanksgiving and she’s a fabulous cook, but this year she wanted a break. My sister is not really a cook and has a demanding job, and her husband is a great cook but he’s from Sweden and not tremendously versed in traditional Thanksgiving dishes! So I’m helping out as much as I can.

      • crawnik

        You’re making me hungry. It all sounds delicious!

    • HaakAway

      Thanks Chef … We have fresh made sauerkraut at our local farmer’s market too … I am going to try my clutsy hand at this one.

      • PerSpeier35

        Haakon are you going to submit a guest post to GG for the MyGuy results?

        • HaakAway

          Yes, indeed … even have a uniqe picture compliments of avwh.

    • JStreet

      Thanks, Chef. Might just do it. How “sauerkrauty” does it turn out. I don’t want my guests thinking they’re at the ballgame. Or do I?

      • Michael Scott

        Hi, how is Diane doing ? Hope that she’s still improving. As to the sauerkraut dressing, well it is “sauerkrauty” . But the bird and gravy aren’t, and you would have a “regular” stuffing as well.

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    It was a good day for plumbing and data tabulation. We have hot water and other than super slow drips that should cure by the weekend, the fits are tight. As for the data, some quick ANOVA and BOOM!, P =.001 with the control at about 16% infection rate and the best treatments at about 10% with 6 reps including n of 400-500 per rep. That shit gets me about as excited as Bobby Evans packaging prospects for trade.

    • Michael Scott

      You got me all atingle, Footsie. “400-500 per rep” knocked me out of the couch.

    • DrLefty

      You had me at p < .001!

    • Bail-o Yo Ho.
      • Scout Finch Baseball

        If that quote doesn’t get folks to jump out of bed and take on the world, I don’t know what does.

        So what’s the story, Bail-o? Move to Pakistan? Still in Italy? Never in Italy? Ever go by Sam?

        • Bail-o Yo Ho.

          Going to a Druid Academy, but not in the Salisbury Plains. We didn’t build that ring. Ho!

      • JStreet

        Is he at home? Then he’s legal. Haha

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    Arizona Fall League finale and the Scottsdale Scorpions scamper to a 6-6 tie with the Mesa Solar Sox (sounds great on a cold winter day). Tim Tebow steals the show by getting on base three times and finishing the AFL with a .194 average. What a fun game the Mets are playing. Chris Stratton had a nice coda to the fall; he went 5 scoreless frames striking out 4 while yielding just 3 hits and one walk. Tyler Rogers didn’t fare nearly as well. One Giants farmhand took ABs today, Eliezer Zambrano. He went 1 for 4 and finished the fall with a .316 average. This guy is probably #3 on the Giants catching depth chart.

    • DrLefty

      Some kind words for Stratton from the BB America AFL report:

      Stratton has had the misfortune of pitching on the same day as Kopech and Martes previously, so the 2012 first-rounder has been overshadowed at times. But he stood tall Thursday, hurling five shutout innings to close out his fall in Scottsdale’s 6-6 tie with Mesa. Stratton finished at 2-2, 3.12 with 21 strikeouts and just five walks in 26 innings. The former Mississippi State ace showed better command this season at Triple-A and carried that over into the AFL.
      Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/baseball-america-prospect-report/#2rfDE2jHMJ6QSWPr.99

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    Multiple choice, winter preferences for Bobby Evans:

    A.) Trade for JD Martinez of the Tigers, a bona fide middle of the order bat that has the 8th highest SLG% in MLB over the last three seasons. His defense rated poorly last year, but was rated closer to average in the previous two seasons. Plug him in left and watch him hit .280-.300 with 25 HRs and solid OBP. The cost: shipping out top prospect Tyler Beede and more, possibly Arroyo as well – in addition to 11 mil salary. Potential to re-sign and to recoup draft pick. Availability = 40% chance? Tigers let him go.

    B.) Trade for Lorenzo Cain of the Royals, a bona fide Gold Glove outfielder that can play center field but would possibly serve the Giants best by playing the spacious right field and shifting Pence to LF. He has hit third for the Royals and is a high contact hitter with aggressive speed on the bases. Expect a .280-.310 avg with around 12 HRs and 25 SBs. The cost would also likely start with Tyler Beede, but overall a lesser package than Martinez. Salary is about 11 mil and same scenario with JD. Availability is <20%, IMO.

    C.) Sign free agent Matt Holliday. Bona fide non-Gold-Glover, but not as bad as he's made out to be in LF. He can also hit in the middle of the order and hit between .250-.270 with .330-.350 OBP and 20+ HR potential. His contract at age 37 is probably around 2 years/25 million. Eminently available, has played with Oakland and in the NL West.

    D.) Let Mac Williamson and Jarrett Parker play LF and spell Pence in RF. Together they may hit between .220 and .240 with 20+ HR power and OBP between .300 and .320. Expect a high strike out rate, growing pains, and lack of execution in high leverage situations. But can't beat the cost: league minimum and extra payroll space to address other needs.

    E.) None of the above. Some other guy or gal that can mash and play killer D.

    • 610nm

      Something in the neighborhood of D? Giving up Beede and/or Arroyo for a one year only player seems unwise. I guess the team will know internally how healthy they think Span might be (or conversely, how hurt he was this season). If Span and Pence are not able to play effectively, a proven MLB bat would be wise. If those two do play well next year, giving Williamson a chance is a cheap way to fill the 3rd OF slot (I don’t have much confidence in Parker, to be honest).

      They could also choose the Williamson/Parker option, and if that isn’t working so well, look for a player by trade in June or July. We do have Austin Slater lurking about.
      Fowler is available again, right, for just money (lots more money than this time last year)?

      • DrLefty

        Yes. This.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        It’s true that Evans can always hold off until the trade deadline. Keep the team in it and see which bats become available to give that playoff push. Perhaps Cain is not really available now, but will be available in July.

        Cain is a proven playoff performer.

        • 610nm

          I’d be thrilled to get Cain onto the Giants (or if we could have gotten Alex Gordon). Royals are iffy for next year, might recover, might collapse entirely and make Cain available.

    • crawnik

      I like both Martinez and Cain, but not at the expense of Beede and Arroyo.

      Would it be worth trading Stratton, Blackburn and Shaw for either Martinez or Cain?

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        That wouldn’t get it done. Not enough leverage with any single piece in that proposal.
        Stratton= C+, Blackburn and Shaw are more B-.

    • Doughnut

      I would expect a MacParker OBP to be higher than that. They both averaged over .360 in the minors and take good at bats and see pitches. I think Parker especially takes some pretty smart at bats and gets generally forgotten around here but he deserves more consideration imo.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        Parker does have better production than Mac in MLB and AAA and is more likely to carry that higher OBP rate.

    • JStreet

      B,A,D,E,C. In that order. If those are the only choices,
      E doesn’t look to bad, even a clock is right sometimes.
      Matt’s no holiday, a despised player around here.
      I like Cain the best, getterdun.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        There may be a chord progression there somewhere; the minor fall, the major lift, the baffled king composes…

        I really like Cain. Thought we’d have a Cain as VP, but that’s out the window now.

    • Sgbssfg

      I’m partial to D. And would also consider moving Pence to Left field and put the young legs in right. And find a way to keep Gregor.

    • Keep’n It Real

      C. I’m not giving up Beede or Arroyo, because the Giants will need them in 2018. Mac and Parker (well…maybe one in a trade) will not be going away if you go the C route…and Holliday can mentor.

      If “F” was the Schoenfield trade, then I would pick that.

      • channelclemente

        First, before a trade, someone has to value Parker or Williamson. I can almost guarantee that person won’t be part of the Giants fanbase.

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          Perhaps there is a member of a front office that gets giddy with reports of exit velocity – Mac will be his/her man.

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    • 610nm

      Thanks for your efforts!

  • cynic

    I always thought Romo’s go to pitch was a slider. Was it a curve?

    • Bapah

      If you’ll recall, several years ago it was the 2-seam FB (it was the pitch Miggy watched to end the game), that had terrific movement in to RHBs and away for LHBs. It has fallen off seriously in the last few years and doesn’t have the movement it did 4-5 years ago. The slider was his strongest pitch even when throwing it more than 50% of the time to RHBs, but as soon as they could read it (and lay off) out of his hand (wrist position, even though it was a “no-dot”) he would nail the inside FB which was virtually unhittable for RHBs. Alas, that pitch has not had the movement it used to for the last 3 or so years.

      • cynic

        I’ll never forget that fastball to Cabrera. Just the perfect pitch at the perfect time. Cabrera was sitting on a slider and got a sub 90s fastball.

        I just saw curveball in GG’s writeup and wanted to make sure I didn’t have it wrong thinking of it as a slider. You’re right that it hasn’t been as unhittable lately. Nothing showed that more than the AB by Zobrist.

        • The parlance is “slider” for Romo but it really is a curveball. To me it depends on the amount of break. I guess I was being iconoclastic…

          • Bapah

            It’s really based on mechanics of the pitch. Generally, it is harder to get as much break on a slider as on a curve, but it is faster, but the way it is thrown determines the pitch. Generally, the wrist is sideways as you read it on both.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            I think the low arm angle and the lateral movement of the pitch lends towards designation as slider or “no-dot slider”. It was Romo’s breaking pitch, his go-to pitch, and it was a beauty in his prime.

          • Bapah

            Indeed, arm angle is part of the mechanics and determines the angle of the break and some of the way it leaves the hand. How he held the ball and the way it was released was a big factor in the no-dot part.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            For sure. You know that saying about necessity being the mother of invention. I think this is very true for Serge given his frame and max velocity of 90-90ish.

          • Bapah

            I loved his 2-seam when it was good. It was almost a LH-slider to LHBs.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            I used to really try to get on the inside of the ball and try to really run the ball in to RHH. And tail off plate for LHH.

          • Bapah

            When you do that it is nearly a cut. Holding the ball asymmetrically and putting max pressure on one hemisphere is usually what determines a “cut”. Playing around with grip and slot is really a lot of fun. I had to do it because I couldn’t throw that hard overhand, but a lower slot and different grip made it a lot of fun.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            Pitching is fun. I’d like to give it one more shot. The circle change was the most fun. It was difficult to consistently have feel, but there is nothing more fun than watching a hitter swing before the ball arrives.

          • Bapah

            Pitching IS fun… at least until your shoulder (my case) or elbow go AWOL. Then, coaching, especially if you find a live arm in a kid (that is coachable) becomes a great substitute.

          • cynic

            After reading you and Bapah’s replies there is no doubt that Romo’s pitch was unique. Maybe we should call it the “Romo”?

    • Bapah

      To answer your question more directly requires understanding how both curves and sliders are thrown. His slider is not thrown in a conventional manner. Curves are usually thrown with the middle finger coming hard over the front of the ball as it leaves the hand. This is difficult to throw hard as most of the force is directed over the front of the ball and not behind it. The slider, for simplicity’s sake, is thrown more like a football with the force of the fingers coming down on the side of the ball. Romo’s wrist position is different in that the axis of rotation does not center on the threads of the ball, hence “no-dot”.
      It was a “slurver” but harder than a curve. You have to remember that every pitcher has their own tweeks to both pitches depending how their arm and brain works.

  • Bail-o Yo Ho.
    • Glad to have you contributing Bail-o Yo Ho! As a courtesy to our Trump-loving Giants fans and out of respect for our policy of neutrality (that some people struggle with) please keep politics out of this blog and your contributions. Contact me directly through the form on the contact page if you have any questions.

      • Bail-o Yo Ho.

        Well, my dear Γεώργιος, I’ll satisfy your gentle request. But after having reminded you that the “no politics here” tactic is a political one “par excellence” (it’s french), always used by righties and conservatives to block criticism. Have a good day.

      • There have been 50 posts on politics prior to this one above ——–> ?

  • BALDHEADSLIKK

    Yesterday was a very interesting day for yours truly lol! Supervisor of transportation did his ride along with me yesterday as part of his duties or shall i say a check ride and boy i’ll tell ya he did not enjoy his day at all lol!! I scored 95 pct out of a possible 100 pct but i figured i’d put his extremely by the book ass to work and boy did i. He rode with me from 8 am til 8 pm when he usually decides to call it a day around 5 pm during ride alongs. His main job is to critique whatever it is that im doing wrong in order to save the company money and time. He stated during the day that he put my ride along last out of all of the couriers because he knew that it would be an exhausting day with me unlike the other drivers which i thought was extremely hilarious. This man is very particular with very little people skills with a stiff exterior to him and takes everything very seriously and i gather has no life outside of work which is very sad, All in all im glad that he came a long with me yesterday for a 12 hr adventure .

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      A day with Slikk is good for the soul.

    • channelclemente

      Fun is where you find it. 😉

      • BALDHEADSLIKK

        I agree

        • channelclemente

          Maybe you have a friend in the making?

          • BALDHEADSLIKK

            No no no never

          • channelclemente

            Why?

          • BALDHEADSLIKK

            My motto is never be friends with people you work with

          • channelclemente

            LOL. Why do you feel that way? It seems odd since most friendships and even marriages are centered around people you meet in the workplace.

          • BALDHEADSLIKK

            I once worked with a guy years ago we had a good working relationship and then he wrote me up for something extremely petty so I decided then that I would not become friends with anyone that I worked with because u never really know them. Works for me!

          • channelclemente

            ok.

          • BALDHEADSLIKK

            CC I’m exhausted now youre wearing me out have a good day buddy

          • channelclemente

            Good night, sleep well.

    • Lunch_Box

      Nice of you to give him an exciting 12 hours. Probably the most exciting and probably exhausting time he’s had in a while.

      • BALDHEADSLIKK

        That’s funny lunch box he said he was exhausted when we got back last night that is so funny that you would say that ,that’s what I meant to happen!

    • BALD – the USPS had those “time and measurement” days. They did not want us hardly breathing. Typical government came up with a ‘name’ = MIPSOP. Methods Improvement Program Standard Operating Procedures. It was bunk. The good ones like you kept them out “there” all day. Then we had the “RUNNERS”. Usually guys from another “land” – who were working two-three jobs and wanted the regular to look bad. The regular drivers and carriers put their collective arms around those guys neck and had a word with them. They were told the Jimmy Hoffa Story etc.

      Nice Work!

      PS: The guy checking you could NEVER do your job on a regular basis.

      • BALDHEADSLIKK

        No this guy could not do anything clutch this guy is nothing but a pencil pusher that’s all he is and he’s very good at what he does very very good at what he does nice write-up man I appreciate it take care

  • Bail-o Yo Ho.
    • Bapah

      What is the question? We know the answer.

      • Bail-o Yo Ho.

        If The Donald is the answer, how stupid is the question?

    • paul in p.v.

      What a repulsive photograph.

  • Bail-o Yo Ho.
    • Cueball

      Cool avatar…Getafix from the Asterix comics series. One of my favorites.

      • Bail-o Yo Ho.

        Being a Druid isn’t only cool, it’s a necessity today. Mala tempora currunt.

        • 610nm

          This is turning into funny silliness – I’m a big fan of Asterix and Obelisk! Which one of us here is Cacaphonix?

          • Bail-o Yo Ho.

            Wait a minute. I’ll have to find some mistletoe and I don’t remember where is my golden sickle.

    • channelclemente
  • channelclemente
    • Lunch_Box

      Reddick and now McCann? Looks like the ‘stros want to be the main MLB in Texas. McCann must be happy to be growing back the beard and policing people at the Dome who celebrate their homers.

  • Bail-o Yo Ho.
    • Scout Finch Baseball

      And I thought I was weird 😉

      • channelclemente

        Is that a question?

      • Bail-o Yo Ho.

        Non posso appellarti cretino, perchè i cretini sarebbero legittimati a sentirsi offesi dal paragone.

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          Just used Google translate because my Italian is not as good as my Spanish.

          Fair enough.

          • Bail-o Yo Ho.

            I have no need of Google translator for English, Spanish, French, Slovenian, Croatian and Latin of course. Unicuisque sui.

  • Keep’n It Real

    Dave Schoenfield’s proposed trade:

    Detroit Tigers trade OF J.D. Martinez to the San Francisco Giants for RHP Jordan Johnson and OF Steven Duggar.

    You have keep up with the Joneses! The Tigers just missed the postseason, so while reports have suggested some possible deals to get younger, they could also give it one more run with an aging roster. Martinez has one season left before free agency, while the Giants could use a righthanded power bat for left field. Martinez fits that bill, although his atrocious defensive metrics in 2016 — minus-22 defensive runs saved — are cause for concern.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/76381/a-trade-for-every-team

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      LMAO. Who is this Schoenfield guy?

      • Keep’n It Real

        You know…

        I would do this trade like n-o-w.

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          get it done while the Tigers GM has been coked up for 48 hours straight.

    • earlytimes

      He’s got the right idea from the G’s POV trading for a rental.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        Remember when Giants traded primo prospect Zach Wheeler for a couple of months of Carlos Beltran?

        Same principle applies here. Gonna have to give up something for a full year rental of a top shelf bat – that can also bring back a draft pick later.

        • DrLefty

          Maybe. They might get rid of the whole qualifying offer thing in this CBA. No guarantees right now about next year.

    • GSDUbs

      He also picked the Giants to win the WS. I think he was a political pollster once upon a time.

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    C’mon KIR, you’re slipping today 🙂

    Rangers nearing deal with Andrew Cashner.

    Braves to acquire Tuffy Gosewich.

    • The Tuff Man + “eye chart-type” last name

    • Doughnut

      Cashner is a good buy low candidate. Low risk possible high reward

      • Doughnut

        Might make a good closer someday

    • Keep’n It Real

      I’m working, here! :-))

  • steve k
    • DrLefty

      To the Lord let the praises be
      It’s time for dinner
      Now let’s go eat

      One of my favorites–I adore Lyle–large band, small band, acoustic…

      • At all our boy scout camp fires

        Good food,
        Good meat,
        Good God,
        Let’s eat!

  • Michael Scott

    You low down yella-bellied, liberal, Latino lovin’, scum sucking slime balls…Hey, just getting ready to fit in ….the old farts will be the first to go.