Baseball Mourns Passing of the Royals’ Yordano Ventura

by
Greek Giant

It’s a cliche to say (or write) “There’s more to life than baseball.” The irony of cliches is that many of them are cliches for their truth and their resonance. Yordano Ventura, the fine Royals starting pitcher, ace and wunderkind was killed Sunday morning at the age of 25 in an automobile crash that also took place shortly after another crash took the life of Andy Marte. In a strange and mysterious baseball moment, Andy Marte’s final game was August 6, 2014, started by Yordano Ventura. You can read more about both players here.

Ventura, the mercurial, brash and enigmatic pitcher was a key part of the Royals resurgence. Growing up in the Dominican Republic, Ventura dropped out of school to support his family by working for a construction company. A fluke tryout with Major League baseball scouts altered the course of his life. When scouts saw his scintillating fastball mixed with his brash, cocky demeanor, he was soon signed. His path from Dominican Republic construction sites to the glamour of Major League baseball culminated in his World Series ring in 2015.

Ventura was among the young, highly-talented players who made up the heartbeat of the Royals resurgence: Eric Hosmer, Mike Moustakas, Salvador Perez, and Lorenzo Cain. That’s one spectacularly talented group of players and together they propelled a baseball renaissance in Kansas City that still reigns today.

My condolences go to Ventura’s family and the Royals. Baseball lost another bright, electrifying star and together we mourn.

 

  • totalfan62

    I had very little admiration or respect for Ventura, given his ongoing nonsense on the mound. Still, I mourn over his death and feel the pain of his friends and family. 25 years old, with his life in front of him. Rest in peace, hijo.

    • HaakAway

      I agree with you on his nonsense but hearing some backstory on his family commitment and his path to the MLB helps me “get over” my impressions of him. Indeed it is a very strange Double Tragedy for the baseball crazed DR.

  • DrLefty

    Interestingly, Ventura’s real shining moment was not the 2015 championship year but the 2014 World Series, where the Royals fell just short. He started Games 2 and 6, both of which the Royals won, pitching well to a no-decision in Game 2 and getting a win with seven shutout innings in Game 6. Without Ventura, there is no chance the Royals push the Giants to seven games, given how poorly their ace (Shields) matched up against Bumgarner twice, and the rest of the rotation being so desultory (Jeremy Guthrie–really?).

    Ventura pitched poorly overall in the 2015 postseason and was the losing pitcher in the only World Series game the Royals lost that year. He really never put it all together after 2014, but he sure was impressive then.

    • cynic

      I think it was Game 2 that he came out and was wild or not very good, then you could see the confidence just getting higher and higher as the game went on.

  • crawnik

    Thoughts and prayers go out to the families of Ventura and Marte.
    Pitchers and catchers report in 21 days. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb690f291bfe42933ed75d0495b1ddf560458cc2f339dadb1744b68ae4dff1a3.jpg

    • Lunch_Box

      Damn–it’s weird seeing Bonds so skinny in his Giants uni unless you go back to around 1993.

      • Peter Johnson

        Picture probably from 1997 or 1998, Kent joined Giants in 1997, and 1999 is the year Bonds is rumored to start juicing, and in 1999 he missed lots of games with elbow surgery .

  • totalfan62

    Atlanta is all atwitter over their Falcons, and rightfully so. This has always been a football-first town, and the Falcons are on a roll. I’m happy for my Falcons fan friends.

    • cynic

      I didn’t know they were a football town. I always think of them as a Braves town. But being in the South I guess that makes sense.

      • 2holehitting

        Braves have a lowsy fan base. Except for the Bobby Cox era, they have generally been below league average fan attendance per year

        http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/bravatte.shtml

        • totalfan62

          I think you’ll see an uptick in attendance and overall interest with the move to the new Cobb County stadium (Suntrust Park, Opening Day 2017). Youth baseball is HUGE in Cobb Co. Braves are counting on that excitement and additional revenue.

  • People mourn inspite of what Oracle shall quantify. It’s what we do.
    His field bravado was part of his background, DNA and early baseball experiences. RIP

    • Michael Scott

      Oracle was not wrong as I recall.But In any case, the deaths of these young men was tragic in that they died too young and with so much life in front of them.May they rest in peace.

      • “He” does not mourn when the dead have taken a mind altering beverage or drug….

  • Scout Finch Baseball
  • Lunch_Box

    I thought this kid was so cocky, but he was also so dominant against the Giants in Game 6. He backed it up with that performance, and its a shame he wasn’t able to live longer to enjoy the game and life.

  • Mr. Sarcastic
    • 22’sSweetSwing

      I too was hoping for another team to represent the AFC.

    • doobieibood

      But in alternative facts, congratulations to the 2016 NFC Champion San Francisco 49ers!

  • channelclemente

    I read a short article this morning that ranked the Giants-Royals game 7 among the top 10 WS games ever played. They ranked the Cubs-Indians game 7 as number 1.

    http://www.thesportsnotebook.com/2016/11/best-baseball-games-ever/

    • John Myhill

      The Cubs-Indians game was more exciting but it was a complete mess on both sides. Neither team deserved to win although at least the Indians had an excuse because they were devastated by injuries. The Giants-Royals game wasn’t just exciting, it was very well played.

      • channelclemente

        I wouldn’t argue your point. I thought that Cubs-Indians game, although exciting, was pretty mediocre baseball, if considered alone. What Bumgarner and the Giants did, was, IMO, the stuff of legends.

        • John Myhill

          I agree. To go back a looong way, the Cubs-Indian game reminded me of Super Bowl V, the Blunder Bowl.

          • channelclemente

            LOL. Good comp.

  • channelclemente
    • 610nm

      I sure hope Bapah sees this one!

      • Bapah

        It’s likely the reason no alien culture wants to say, “Hello”.

        • 610nm

          Or that we’re some kind of mutant pond scum, totally unable to recognize true intelligence.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            Surely you guys remember “The Andromeda Strain”.

            Was that an intelligent life from from another realm?

            I remember catching the phrase “ketosis” from somebody on this blog. I think they induce ketosis as part of their workout regime. I just remember that from the book, individuals that happened to have ketosis survived the epidemic. One was a howling baby that had been hyperventilating, the other was an alcoholic elderly man.

            Were earth’s early cyanobacteria intelligent lifeforms because they could alter the atmosphere of the planet?

          • Bapah

            I used to work with blue-green algae. Life form? – yes, Intelligent?- please define. If they minded when we used their genes to make Taq, they didn’t mention it.

          • channelclemente

            It was blood pH, acidosis.

          • Bapah

            It’s possible. As are other dimensions we might not recognize yet.

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          “Take me to your leader”

          Absolutely. You can have him.

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    RIP to another baseball player …

    http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-et-jc-mark-baumer-20170123-story.html

    “Baumer lived in Providence, R.I., where he worked in a library at Brown University.
    He graduated from Wheaton College, where he was a star baseball player,
    and was a student in Brown’s creative writing MFA program.”

    “Mark Baumer, an award-winning poet who was walking barefoot across the
    country to raise awareness about climate change, died Saturday after
    being hit by a car in Florida…”

    • HaakAway

      The “hit by an SUV” line made me think it was Fake News but there is so much detail it convinced me.
      It is another story that shows us that baseball makes people better human beings.

      We get a week to recover from the storms. It was a battle here but you can look east to those Sierras and see the value of it.

      OFF TOPIC / GRAPHIC WARNING
      Got an easy system to put down small animals? The last cat, a stray we took in riddled with cancer, I used a .22 to the head. She is buried under an old windmill piece of iron to keep the critters from digging for her. That is in our Shasta Daisy patch next to my wood pile. Our faithful cat, 18-year-old, “Motor” is ready to go and I need to research if they have a simple pill. I would like to do it all “in house” and hands on … I think she deserves it over a last trip to a vet.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        Unless you can come up with barbituates on your own, I think it’s the vet or a gruesome diy method. I took ol Mingus to the vet. And wife took the last cat to vet. They charge by weight because of dosage.

        • HaakAway

          Thanks … I will do some research. The vet is clean and painless. Maybe I just got lucky on the last one. I can see where it could get ugly.

      • channelclemente

        A CO2 chamber, if done after tranquilization, works. Putting down a pet, in my experience, is an emotionally excruciating experience. Bring a towel, I cried like a baby.

        • HaakAway

          Problem is that going to a vet is trauma on our cat so I wish I could spare her that as her last memory.

          Raises the whole odd situation in my mind that we can euthanize anyone painlessly (directions on the www) but the death penalty cannot be carried out without being “cruel and unusal punishment”. [At the risk of straying into political opinion here.]

          • channelclemente

            It’s a good question. The issue with the death penalty is in part an MD’s Hippocratic Oath.

            Tranquilizers are weird in a cat. Some act to excite them.

  • John Myhill

    Jose Fernandez also died in a crash recently, although it wasn’t in a car and it wasn’t in the Dominican Republic.

    • Michael Scott

      Do you have a point with your comment?

      • Nice, Pal !

      • John Myhill

        Just that people are talking about all the Dominican deaths and forgot about Fernandez.

  • Keep’n It Real

    Jeeho Yoo
    ‏@Jeeho_1

    A Korean report says free agent 3B Jae-Gyun Hwang has signed with #SFGiants. Apparently a split contract. Trying to confirm the move…

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Thanks KIR. You’re our Seoul man.

  • DrLefty

    Baggs and Alex confirming the Hwang rumors. Baggs also says the Giants are “active on the backup catcher front.” GOOD. Hundley? Hanigan?

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Hwang may be equivalent of a 29 year old B prospect. If he can play LF like Adam Duvall, this could be gravy.

      • channelclemente

        IF x N .

        • Matthew

          Devil Inside?

  • DrLefty

    Here’s a write-up about Hwang from a couple weeks ago.

    http://www.scout.com/mlb/giants/story/1743015-jae-gyun-hwang-by-the-numbers

    • Kevink109

      So according to this link – the best guess is 10hr, .330 OBP and maybe a 280-290 hitter. I seem to remember a certain Kelby Tomlinson- who hit 300, with an OBP around .370- and can play almost anywhere on the field- and he is cheaper than Hwang. I know the power isn’t there but Just saying

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        Kelby ISO of. 038 last year….

  • channelclemente

    Bud Selig’s Hope and Faith Index, and how that algorithm manages baseball decisions about competitiveness evaluation and success.

    For each team leading either a division or Wild Card race, a deficit of zero is appended.

    For each team chasing a playoff slot, the algorithm considers
    whether the club is fewer games back in the division or, when
    applicable, Wild Card race. The smaller figure gets recorded as that
    team’s playoff deficit.

    All deficit figures are summed and then divided by the count of the number of deficits included. And, voila! That’s the HFI.

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/how-much-hope-and-faith-is-in-major-league-baseball/

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    Sounding like a potential bargain. Maybe some fireworks in Sacramento and then a call-up.

    No exclusivity, but am definitely claiming some My Guy on Hwang.

    https://twitter.com/extrabaggs/status/823642199933890560

  • Scout Finch Baseball
  • Keep’n It Real
  • channelclemente

    Thought provoking article by George Will at NRO about PEDs and entry into the HOF. He makes the case that the crux of the argument is if one views the HOF as a museum or a shrine.. He believes if a museum, Bonds has every right to be there, as a shrine, absolutely none.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444079/baseball-hall-fame-steroids-performance-enhancing-drugs-writers-voters-cooperstown

    • Efrain

      Bonds absolutely deserves to be there, whether you look at it a museum or shrine or whatever. Perhaps the greatest player of his generation already before PEDs, he was better than Griffey and ARod.

      If there were no members of the HOF that had PED rumors over their head, then perhaps some can make a case. But now that there are more than a couple, Bonds deserves and needs to be in the HOF.

  • channelclemente

    GG, given your business, if you’ll entertain a non baseball question of merit I think. Ajit Pai, a strong opponent of net neutrality has been appointed to run the FCC. Given Comcast would be a huge beneficiary of repeal of net neutrality, and it would seemingly have multiple effects on things like baseball TV blackout policy, what’s the gist of the arguments pro and con.

  • Keep’n It Real

    Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 8m8 minutes ago
    DeLeon to #Rays. Forsythe to #Dodgers.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      TY, KIR. U r also our man in Tampa.

    • earlytimes

      Damn…Good deal for the Bums.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Seems like a drop off from Dozier and Kinsler, but this is still a solid MLBer – that seems good for 3-4 WAR. Above average dude.

      And they only part with one of the coveted prospects. Good deal for Tampa to get DeLeon.

  • pacman68

    NO ON HWANG! Get a left fielder!! NO ON WHANG! STOP REACHING FOR GOLD. IT’S NOT WORKING.

    Hope everyone is having a nice winter.

    • I NEED a movie to go to Pac ?

      • pacman68

        Split… Love me some M Night !! Or watch Hell and High Water on Amazon. Best movie I saw last year.

      • channelclemente

        Hidden Numbers

        • Keep’n It Real

          I will 2nd that recommendation. REALLY good film.

    • John Myhill

      Getting Hwang is the way to get a left fielder, because then they can trade Nunez.

    • channelclemente

      Are you talking dirty again?

  • channelclemente
  • Keep’n It Real

    Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 8m8 minutes ago
    things appear to be heating up for greg holland. final 3 teams may be: rockies, nats and a mystery team

    How nice would it be if the Giants were that mystery team? Huge odds against it, but I have to be optimistic somewhere.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Got to be the Nats. Can they really miss on all the FA closers?

  • Logan Forsythe – a poor man’s Dozier ….

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Perhaps some Howie Kendrick to his game as well??

    • channelclemente

      Except he brings them no improvement in power or average against LHP.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        Sure he does. He doesn’t have any favorable splits vs. LHP, but he’s not vulnerable.

        • channelclemente

          He’s a vanilla .260ish. with 4 HR last year against LHP, I think.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            4 HRs in 124 PAs vs LHP

            16 in 443 PAs vs RHP

            .333 OBP last year, .359 in ’15.

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    Looks like a wrap down South:

    Forsythe 2B
    Seager SS
    Gonzalez 1B
    Turner SS
    Grandal C
    Puig/Ethier RF
    Pederson CF
    Toles LF
    Pitcher

    Tough but not invincible lineup. Although watch out for Bellinger mid-summer, hopefully, for Giants sake, doesn’t become the next Seager, and is more Pederson-esque.

    • DrLefty

      AGon, Turner, and Ethier are all long in the tooth. Time for them to start slowing down. 🙂

    • Efrain

      with the Dodgers, you have to look at the whole instead of the starting lineup. The”ll be tough again since they have so many movable pieces they can plug in wherever necessary.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        As you have repeated, yes, a deep and talented 40 man. Giants have some nice depth too. Hwang is going to be good. I can feel it!

        • Efrain

          I think so too, may surprise a few folks.

        • channelclemente

          Stop that.

    • crawnik

      They can keep rolling out Rookies of the Year. We’ll keep rolling out parades down Market Street.

    • John Myhill

      Okay, so Forsythe’s splits are .278/.244, the Dodgers are still disastrously weak against lefties. With Blach in the starting rotation this is looking pretty good.

    • Moooooooooose

      I’d bunt ’em to death down the 3rd base line!!

  • DrLefty

    I’m glad the Dodgers got Forsythe and not Dozier or even Kinsler. Forsythe’s a good add, but Dozier would have been scary. Glad the Twinkies held the line on that one.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      It is a favorable outcome. DeLeon and his stuff that dominated the minors is out of the Dodgers system and instead they have more of a steady Eddie 2B that isn’t a significant game changer – solid, but doesn’t make Mad Bum or Moore quake at the thought of facing him.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwpRHrAh3pk

    What was the MLB Umpires ruling on the Randy Johnson 2001 Bird Pitch vs the Giants?

    1) No pitch?
    2) Bird Interference aka B.I.
    3) Fowl Ball ?
    4) Strike ?
    5) Ball ?
    6) If a pitched ball strikes a bird in flight on the playing field the pitch is nullified and play shall be resumed with the previous count
    7) Call PETA
    8) None of the above
    9) All of the above

    Bonus points – a cruise on the Alcatraz cruise boat and dinner with Woj-Chris, Runnitt and SamHatesBelt at Tommy’s Joint.

    The Giants hitter was (__________) so easy

    • crawnik

      J.T. Snow was the hitter?

      • You got me, but no in the photo the batter is right handed… :-/

  • John Myhill

    Okay, looks like the Giants are signing Hwang. Now does anyone know if he hits lefties well?

  • Finally the veteran back up catcher is going to be announced soon. It’s a great move by the Giants. Has to pass physical.

    • Michael Scott

      If one says it often enough, it’s bound to happen eventually. It’s a neat trick because one can claim to be right regardless of when it happens and regardless of who they sign.

      • DrLefty

        Baggs did say today that the Giants are working on trying to sign a backup C.

        • Michael Scott

          That’s been in the plans for months. My reference was to Joe saying-OFTEN- that a mystery vet catcher is about to sign- soon.. Pending that physical. it’s always going to be soon. And of course that darn physical may get in the way.

    • Bapah

      I don’t see it as anything close to great.

      • Michael Scott

        He probably means that it’s just frigging awesome that the Giants insist that players pass a physical.
        Or maybe that something terrific will be even more “terrific-er” at some time in the great future.

    • DrLefty

      I’m with you, Joe. I want a veteran backup C. Stash young Trevor in AAA where he can play everyday.

      • Nick Hundley.

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          Not Salty?

        • DrLefty

          I’m in!

  • DrLefty

    First time in over two weeks I’ve been well enough to plan and execute a home-cooked meal. Orange-thyme chicken thighs, started on the stovetop and finished in the oven. Carrot purée with cream and cumin. Delicious, healthy, and not too hard. From Ayesha Curry’s cookbook!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/774c155e08050843266fc1ec0ca606889e7b5dc5cd7b75f41185a17c0e2b648f.jpg

    • channelclemente

      Was that home schooled chicken?

    • Michael Scott

      Looks like an oyster on a bed of salmon roe. Either way, it sounds good.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Where’s your greens, girl? Asparagus? Kale? Broccolini?

      • Michael Scott

        The green is pureed asparagus artfully sculptured to resemble a plate.

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          It appears Mr. Lefty has been a little heavy-headed with the dishware. My ass would be grass if I did that to the Fiesta ware.

          • DrLefty

            Nope. It’s a “rustic” pattern. Came that way.

          • BALDHEADSLIKK

            plates look good scraped im dead serious

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            I hear ya. That rustic look is cool. We don’t have a machine dishwasher and it seems like I do most of the dishes. Yet I get in trouble when dishes or glasses break. It’s been a long time since something broke. Seems momma’s methods work real well (whip sound).

      • DrLefty

        Carrot purée! That’s a vegetable!

    • SurfCity

      I enhanced the photo a little and it appears the chef’s wine glass had already been drank from at the time of this photo.

    • BALDHEADSLIKK

      i like your plates and the food looks delish too

      • DrLefty

        Thanks! I got a whole new set of dishes last summer in a great Williams Sonoma sale. I got yellow bowls and salad plates in the same pattern. My kitchen and dining room are sunflower colors (yellow and green). I even have a Tiffany sunflower chandelier and an original sunflower painting from a Russian artist who has a gallery on Maui.

        • BALDHEADSLIKK

          Scratch em up a bit it gives them character!

    • Alvise Contarini

      Hi Doctor, I wouldn’t seem to go around hair-splitting, but drinking that liquid, which I suppose to be dry white wine, in that kind of glass is no good.

      • DrLefty

        I beg to differ. It’s a chardonnay glass!

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    This one goes to Sean “The Spice Man” Spicer…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oElA1YjArXk

  • Michael Scott

    If any of you libtards are artsy types, you may be out of luck if you hope to spread your leftist propaganda to innocent children, Trump is planning to eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities.I mean, like, who needs that shit anyway?

    • channelclemente

      He cracks walnuts at the Opera, who knew.

      • Michael Scott

        Checked out the Breitbart site. Everything that an alt-right wacko would want to see- If Donald doesn’t like it, it’s a lie. The women protesters are a bunch of leftist ( the “C” word), the Breitbart people write like kindergarten children, they don’t cotton much to facts and reason, And of course, Hillary should be locked up and Conway absolutely destroys her interviewers.
        These are the folks who Trump speaks to. And for. They represent the alternate universe where Donald resides.
        GNight. I’ve stretched my limits too far.See you in a few.

        • channelclemente

          One of the guys who started Breitbart is ‘he who’s name isn’t spoken’s’ chief advisor.

  • Scout Finch Baseball
  • Scout Finch Baseball

    Seems Brett Anderson will be heading to Chicago. Busy day as ST gets closer.

    • DrLefty

      Which side?

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        North.

  • steve k

    waiters..unconscious..

    • Matthew

      That was impressive

      • SurfCity

        Helluva shot.

        I kind of predicted this game. Yesterday they had such an early start. I’ve found that you can get by one day on not much sleep, but then it comes back to kick you down the next day.

        • steve k

          they didn’t play that badly, miami, and dion especially, just played out of their minds. it’s fine. tip o the hat. i’ll make up a saying for hoops, that baseball started. your going to win 11, and lose 11, it’s what you do the other 60 that matter. for g state, yesterday was just one of the 11 you’re going to lose.

  • Efrain

    Jim Harbaugh is a megalomaniac idiot. First he got his hands slapped for trying to have Michigan practices in SEC country, so now he intends to take the Wolverines to Rome for a few practices.

    Imagine the cost of taking a Division One Football team to Italy to hold practices for “educational” purposes. Although the football team makes a great deal of money for the University, I bet many in the faculty can find dozens of ways to better spend the funds for other programs for the whole student body.

    I hope the Wolverines tank the next few season and we can stop hearing stupid Harbaugh stories like this.

    I still love the look on his fce when the got beat in their bowl game.

    • GSDUbs

      I kind of like him sticking it to the NCAA, dont you?

    • DrLefty

      I agree. Not only is that too much money to spend, but those football players are college students. They should be going to class and doing homework, not jetting to Rome.

  • John Myhill

    In the midst of a discussion yesterday about ranking Bumgarner and Cueto yesterday, I found that Cueto had 7 starts last year in which the Giants scored 2 runs or fewer but they still won. 7. The whole rest of the team combined had 6. Wow.

    • HaakAway

      During the season they could do that although I do not know Cueto’s history on mid-season extensions. It was a two-year deal with Cueto’s option after that. If he completes the year not extended/re-signed then he will be the MyHotStoveGuy™ guess for the Extension next Christmas. He is a keeper; Bum gets extended (same price to keep peace?)

      • DrLefty

        To be specific, it’s a six-year deal ($130 million) with Cueto having the right to opt out after two. He could just choose to complete the six-year deal.

        • crawnik

          You have to wonder if there is some pressure on the Giants to win the WS this year to keep Cueto from opting out. Who knows? Johnny would probably want to finish his career here.

          • earlytimes

            He’ll opt out if he has another strong year, regardless of a WS title. He might prefer to stay here but ….$ talks.

          • John Myhill

            I heard from some reds fans that he really wanted to stay in cincinnati and he pushed them to make a serious offer but they didn’t. He seems to be the type who likes to stay put. And he already has a world series ring from kansas city. I think if the giants can more or match the highest offer or even come close he’ll stay. I just hope he has enough spanish-speaking friends on the team becausr i’ve never even heard him speak english and the giants have lost quite a few spanish speakers this year.

          • dgg

            I expect Cueto to opt out. I think the Giants have the same expectation.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            If Cueto does not opt out, I think that’s bad news – or the consequence of bad news, or having a rough year by his standards on the mound. Cueto opting out at the end of the year would entail that things went swimmingly in 2017.

          • DrLefty

            Yes, and opting out doesn’t necessarily mean leaving. Sabathia and ARod opted out and stayed with the Yankees.

          • dgg

            Yes, but that means the Giants would have to re-sign him for a whole lot more, in money and years. I don’t see the Giants doing that.

          • crawnik

            This is true. Have to keep in mind too that Giants are going to back up the Brinks truck to lock up Bum.

        • HaakAway

          Glad you are feling better.
          Did I tell you StubHub worked for me to get seats at ST? Thanks for the tip.
          Next time I will ask my local friend to go to the stadium and buy them … man the fees are amazing!

          Reality is if he repeats anything close to this I think it is understood that he “gets a raise”?

          • DrLefty

            Glad you got your tix, and hoo boy, are they expensive this year. Worst I’ve ever seen. Also, to book the hotel we like to stay in, I had to PREPAY the whole stay months in advance, nonrefundable–and no chance of using Marriott points.

            We love going, but…yikes.

    • DrLefty

      Just off the top of my head, I can think of two games in which Bumgarner left with a 2-0 lead (in July, his second-to-last start before the All-Star break) and a 1-0 lead (Dodger Stadium in September), and the Giants lost both games because the bullpen blew the lead later. There may have been more of those, but I remember Bumgarner being disproportionately affected by bulllpen failures.

      I’d say the bottom line is that both Bumgarner and Cueto are excellent pitchers, but the Giants need to score more runs and hold more leads. Whatever their problems are, their names are not Bumgarner or Cueto.

      • John Myhill

        I went through the whole schedule and found three games the giants lost after bumgarner turned over a lead to the bullpen, those were two of them. Cueto had two and samardzija had three. And bumgarner got much more run support than cueto or samardzijs (see the stats i gave in the post yesterday).

        • John Myhill

          I checked, the third bumgarner game was april 9 but it was only those 3.

          • DrLefty

            There were also games that the Giants eventually won but Bumgarner didn’t get the decision despite leaving with the lead. Two of them were when Bochy let Casilla pitch to Jake Lamb(!). So maybe the team didn’t lose, but Bumgarner’s record was affected.

          • John Myhill

            Didn’t think of that

  • crawnik
    • BALDHEADSLIKK

      Darn ST last forever geez

      • crawnik

        I know. MLB announced yesterday they’re going to shorten Spring Training…by 2 days.

  • BALDHEADSLIKK

    Baseball and its backwards asses lmao! Lets mourn a drunk driver that not only killed himself but a passenger but lets keep Barry Bonds and Roger Clemons out of the HOF! I understand that they’re 2 different type of subjects but it goes to show you how my favorite sport thinks,

    • steve k

      hey slikk..i’m pretty sure that most, if not all, of us have driven when we shouldn’t have. whether we were drunk, high on the ghanji, or whatever else. we got lucky. damn lucky. these not so fortunate guys were still someone’s son, brother, husband, father, or friend. they made a real bad choice, and paid the ultimate price. i used to think ‘screw em, they deserved it’. i’ve rethought it, and realized i was wrong.

      as per the HOF, bonds, clemons, rose, and the others should be in. it’s a museum honoring the best of the best, which those guys were.

      • Peter Johnson

        Speak for yourself, I have never driven or ridden without being sober, never drank period. The media now a days brag about drinking, KNBR all the host think it is cool to say how much they drink .

        • channelclemente

          Yeah, but you’re a sinless, perfect, always correct, baseball prophet, right.

          • Bapah

            Say, Hallelujah.

          • channelclemente

            Jalapeno good enough. It’s phonetically alliterative.

          • Bapah

            Not without the tilde. Jalapeño

          • Alvise Contarini

            Mañana, caballero Baps, mañana.

          • channelclemente

            Tilde is a dealer in Vegas.

          • Alvise Contarini

            Tilde is also a woman selling fish in Rialto market https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eb09051bd9b551fa9431dbab48bfa7e353deb154301a26cb7c4336ee3abe66b0.jpg , shortening of Matilde, I suppose.

          • Alvise Contarini

            Peter santo subito! Ooops there’s a St. Peter already, sorry Peter.

          • Peter Johnson

            NO I just never do things to be cool, simply do not like the taste, some kids drink to get drunk, even though did not like taste, just want to party with a group of popular people, are get drunk to have nerve to talk to girls, I never did that, to much of a control freak, never want to do anything I would regret later .

          • Moooooooooose

            So you DID drink!

        • BALDHEADSLIKK

          I dont feel like screw em at all it’s just that what is baseball honoring them for their bad choice that’s all I’m saying! Great post by the way

  • dgg

    My wish is for a new post about Korean infielder Jae-Gyun Hwang. Alex wrote a story but it was pretty short:

    “Hwang has played 10 seasons in the KBO and is coming off back-to-back 26-homer seasons. He posted a .330/.391/.558 slash line last season for the Lotte Giants in what is considered a hitter-friendly league.
    …His deal is expected to include opt-out clauses that would allow him to return to the KBO.”

    I’d sure like to know more. I’d also like a story with photos.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      New post in 3….2….1…..1/2….1/4….1/8….

      • Alvise Contarini

        This way you’ll never reach ignition.

    • Scout Finch Baseball
    • HaakAway

      A South Korean reporter also tweeted that Hwang is leaving an $8 mil offer in Korea to try to make the MLB. That sounds like he is motivated to face the best players in the world instead of just make money. That “opt out” might be a parachute for that of sorts but still I like the attitude.

      Remember to hydrate and take regular breaks while you shovel your snow. I have a specail long-handled, small shovel for when I clear my culverts. It makes for light loads that save my back.

  • Peter Johnson

    Giants sign Nick Hundley for 2 Million .

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      That was awesome how Crawfish Joe had this scooped seemingly over a week ago. And Chef had it baking in the oven.

      Good deal. You like it, Pete?

      • Peter Johnson

        Hundley has always killed the Giants, only worry he had injury problems last year .

      • Bapah

        Likely another reclamation project that will be given a contract twice as long as his “Use By” date.

        • HaakAway

          Ha … Already past his “Best By” date?
          Once a week to spell BP28 should let both of them avoid injuries.

          • Bapah

            Nothing wrong with ones that were cheaper and already ours.

          • HaakAway

            Trevor will be fine at AAA with lots of confidence to come up any time.
            If MyGuy Aramis Garcia can have an injury free year he will be breaking into AAA this year and ready to challenge for a 25-man spot a year from now. Hundley just needs to do the Giants normal Super-Vet-One-Season-and-a-RIng Thing.

          • Peter Johnson

            Homework he has been great last 2 years, but had a concussion problem last year, so played only a partial season .

      • crawnik

        I think it’s a good pick up.

    • I knew Trevor Brown was not really in their immediate plans.

      Kuiper might have to work on his Hwang to Panik to Belt DP call.

    • Alvise Contarini

      Is this Hundley good? Pardonnez mon ignorance, messieurs, s’il vous plaît.

      • A Vet who knows is exact role, knows every hitter and pitcher in both leagues.
        33 yrs old at 6’1 – something the Giants have not ‘really’ had save one or two players.
        Kept almost every Rockies Pitcher from jumping off the light standard while pitching in rarefied air for 81 games.

  • Jerry Brown kind of went off (in a good way)

    • John Myhill

      Thanks!

  • channelclemente
    • DrLefty

      I would consider Kershaw, Jansen, and Seager stars. AGon is a former star on the downside of his career. The rest are solid players but not stars.

      On the Giants, I’d say the “stars” are Bumgarner, Cueto, Posey, Melancon, and Crawford.

  • DrLefty

    Crawfish Joe–he nailed it!!! 👏👍🏻🍾

  • DrLefty

    Ehire Adrianza DFA’d to make a 40-man spot for Hundley.

    • crawnik

      And if the Giants can’t make a minor trade with someone, he’ll be right back with the Giants.