Spring Training 2017: Giants at Rockies

by
Greek Giant

The Giants travel to wherever the Rockies Spring Train today. The game begins at 1:05 Tim Lincecum time. The Giants are hoping their pitching can get it into gear after poor outings recently from the likes of Cain and Moore.

Will Smith is having Tommy John which means he is done for the season. Steve Okert, we need you! The Fresh Prince is under club control through 2019 so the decision to forego this season rather than risk losing it and next year to injury and the delayed decision for surgery, is a prudent one. You can read more about it here.

Today’s Line Up

Span, CF
Belt, 1B
Pence, RF
Posey, C
Crawford, SS
Parker, LF
Hill, 3B
Tomlinson, 2B
Smarge, P

 

  • Breckeroni gives a shout out to Vegas Giant Fan

  • It is funny how the Doctor who is doing Smith’s surgery has a name similar to “El Attach The New Nerve Back On”

    http://www.kerlanjobe.com/Find-a-Physician/E/Neal-S-ElAttrache-M-D-.aspx

    Meet Neal S. ElAttrache M.D. – Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic

    This Is the man who operated on both Zack Greinke’s collarbone and Kobe Bryant’s Achilles. ..

    • Bapah

      Thanks for directing us over here. I hate it when new ones aren’t posted.

      • GG – kind of told us awhile back that he’d be looking for some assistance on posting the “New Post” gizmo – because he has a real job also.

    • Bapah

      I thank the guy that did my Achilles. He did a modified Krackow, not a Krukow.

  • Our BC35 is a jokester
    @hankschulman
    Crawford said slumping Arenado got those two hits Wed using a Crawford bat. Asked Arenado not to use it against the Giants

  • earlytimes

    Damn, was looking forward to a Law-Smith -Melancon 7-8-9

    • Efrain

      now it will be more like hail mary, our father., Melancon

  • pacman68

    The Giants bullpen took a huge hit today. They have looked really bad this spring. Hopefully Cain will man up and realize that he’s not a starter anymore and can help the team out of the bullpen.

    • Peter Johnson

      How does he help the bullpen ? He doe’s not have a power arm anymore, and does not have a put away breaking ball , Timmy had a great split finger changeup when he lost velocity, Cain has given up lots of runs in the 1st inning this Spring .

    • John Myhill

      He can hurt the team less as a long relief man than as a starter. That’s about the most I’ll give Cain.

  • Peter Johnson

    The Power of Tomlinson !

    • Peter Johnson

      Showing the way, notice he and the Shark pulled the ball .

      • Peter Johnson

        Belt do not bunt, see, Pull the BALL !

        • Peter Johnson

          Pence the little blooper the other way , be a man Hunter !

          • Matthew

            This was an epic One Man Wolfpack Thread

          • It. Is. Spring. Training.

  • DrLefty

    Who’s this pitcher for the Rockies? I like him. Hope we see him often!

    • Peter Johnson

      He was great this Spring before this inning .

      • DrLefty

        Even better!

        • Matthew

          The Clown Booth Team was intimating Gray may be the opening day starter.

      • So how do we quantify that?

  • Peter Johnson

    See what happens when you pull the ball CC !

  • DrLefty

    Lineup has a bit more get-up-and-go with Buster and Craw in it, eh?

    • 610nm

      It certainly does not hurt at all to see Pence get a hit.

      • Matthew

        And he was safe at home, but why pile on….

        • DrLefty

          He looked safe to me, too.

    • Peter Johnson

      It was that Kelby Triple that just missed going out, he decided he needed to show more power to make the team .

      • Does he need to hit the weight room? Warning track power?

  • Matthew

    Tell the Rockies announcer that it looks like a pulled Isuckitis muscle

    • DrLefty

      I was gonna ask. Eating lunch in a restaurant and watching the game on my phone. Saw trainers talking to Gray. Hope he’s OK, other than that isuckitis.

      • totalfan62

        Sore left foot, I just heard.

  • Matthew

    Crawl said the G’s released Danid Hernandez. Maybe old news? Dunno. I count on this blog for roster news

    • DrLefty

      It was just today. Saw it on Twitter. LOL @ me: I had him on my Feb. 25 roster!

      • Matthew

        Is today the HaakAway deadline?

        • DrLefty

          Tomorrow. I’m taking it down to the wire, myself.

          • Matthew

            Yup…me too

          • Peter Johnson

            I posted my updated roster on the previous post, have Nunez on the DL, and Kelby making the team for the 1st time, and Cain as a starter regrettably with Blach in the pen with Ramirez, Hill is my other infielder on the bench, Marrero, and G . Hernandez, and Hundley the other bench players .

  • Matthew

    I’m always amused by some of the statements on players who aren’t performing and the word comes out “so that _____ can look to sign with another team”.

    • DrLefty

      “…or spend more time with his family”?

      • He will be signed …

        • Mr. Sarcastic

          Cuz you know

          • The guy the Giants just released – yes – I think he will find a home with one of the other AL or NL clubs ……….

  • RobDeer

    Is it that I’ve been drinking for 5 hrs already or the Giants are throwing up zeroes and scoring runs? Or both?

    • RobDeer

      And I still need some winners for tonight.

    • 610nm

      All three appear to be true.

    • Bapah

      What are you drinking? Are you getting your vitamins? I recommend BM’s with lots of vegetation.

      • Sgbssfg

        The first time I read that I didn’t think Bloody Mary’s. The alternative occurs with lots of vegetation.

    • paul in p.v.

      South Lake Tahoe?

  • Peter Johnson

    Bruce get out of the sun you look burnt .

    • Burnt usually means tan?

      • Peter Johnson

        Sun Burnt

        • Ohhh, thanks Peter – I get it now Sun Burned

  • Peter Johnson

    See what happens when you bunt !

    • Bapah

      See what happens when you bunt poorly, very poorly.

  • Bapah

    Aside: Breaking…
    Facing defeat, GOP pulls healthcare bill.

    • Matthew

      They should. Paulie Boy had a rough go on this one…his own doing.

      • Bapah

        Premature rejectulation.

        • Matthew

          Paul Bearer

  • Matthew

    So, where are all the positive comments on Samardzija? It was the end of the world last time on the bump…this is the Rockies A Listers

    • Bapah

      I’ll give you one.

      • Bapah

        Actually, he’s looking very close to ready. Everyone can’t look bad.
        Stratton will make a start tomorrow. Johnnie will stay in hiding

    • 610nm

      I am worried about this guy. Certainly it is good that he’s got a great start today, just before camp breaks. But wheel sea at the ASG!

      • paul in p.v.

        I think Brisbee’s right – what we got here is a .500 pitcher, and innings-eater. I think he needs a baseball shrink to ever reach his true potential.

        • 610nm

          If forced to name a pitching shrink, Rags might be the first one I think of. It is important to note that Buster was Samardzija’s target, today.

          • steve k

            to quote ST, “note that Buster was Samardzija’s target, today.” hold all cards, we have a bingo..

          • paul in p.v.

            Great points.

    • Mr. Sarcastic

      Blind squirrel finds a nut… Broken clock is correct twice a day .. You know the drill

    • Peter Johnson

      Results look better then pithes were , the one Parker lost in the sun for a second was a meatball , just missed .

      • Matthew

        White Efrain!

        • Peter Johnson

          I watched pitches and hitters just missing meat balls .

    • crawnik

      Maybe the Giants should play more at Salt River Fields at Talking Stick. Belt just rakes there. Shark seems to pitch ok there too.

    • paul in p.v.

      Smarge was throwing nice and easy, and seemed to be emphasizing off-speed pitches. Love that zero BBs.

      • paul in p.v.

        p.s. Tomlinson looks great out there. Really coming into his own.

        • totalfan62

          Love Kelby! He’s learned to play the OF, great bench guy. Do the right thing, Giants.

    • Peter Johnson

      Slumping A Listers, Cargo and Aeranado did not hit in WBC still not hitting .

  • totalfan62

    Charlie Blackmon’s beard is now approaching ZZ Top status.

  • Michael Scott

    You’d never know it but The Whipping Boy has 2 more hits today. Must be a misprint.

    • buyselltrade

      Looks like three hits now if we are speaking of the same “whipping boy”.

      I would “merely” like a star player in CF that is an excellent leadoff hitter that steals bases and has a strong throwing arm on defense.

      I am OK with Span who is a good intelligent player but ageing with nagging injuries. . I just think Span and the Giants would do better if Span was a 75% to 80% of time starter, mostly at corner OF but also primary backup to a star in CF. Think Harvey Kuenn.

      I would rather Span hit 8th (or maybe 7th) and have at leadoff a faster and more durable runner that is a prime base stealing threat.

      • Michael Scott

        I’ll make a note of your concerns.

        • buyselltrade

          I like Span on the Giants just want a star in cf.

          My reference to Harvey Kuenn was in regards to his years as a Giant, not the brilliant career as a young player in the American league before coming to the Giants.

          Kuenn was a great and near every day Giant but as a highly productive role player, not a star.

          • Peter Johnson

            No they do not , they are already over the luxury tax, and Span is signed for 2 years, and if he plays to his track record before last year they will be happy .

          • buyselltrade

            I’d rather be happier.

            Happiest would be Mike Trout for Matt Cain by opening day!!

            I understand and accept your thought as grounded in reality.

          • Efrain

            once you’re in the luxury tax, anymore is no big deal. They can still take on more money this year to improve the division if the right player is available.

            At that point its like deciding between the prime rib and the lobster, a few more bucks is no big deal.

          • Peter Johnson

            He was talking about Mike trout type of player, big bucks .

          • buyselltrade

            There is a range between Span and Trout (as Trout is likely not really an option at all).

          • Michael Scott

            I’d like a star at every position and 12 star pitchers.

          • buyselltrade

            Hell yeah.

            Kuenn is a good comparison for Span. He was a former speed player slowed by age and injury that had four very productive seasons as a Giant age s30 to 33.

          • totalfan62

            Kuenn was a solid player for us. I remember in 1962 and 1963 he moved from the OF to 3B to cover for an injured Jim Davenport. Always a big fan of #7, with the big wad of chaw in his mouth.

          • paul in p.v.

            Was once traded for Rocky Colavito!

          • buyselltrade

            Kuenn went from SS to CF to corner OF for Cleveland before coming to the Giants and playing OF, 3B, and 1B; no longer having the speed and agility of youth before injuries.

            Kuenn was my favorite Giant not named Mays, Marichal, McCovey, or Cepeda when I was young.

    • Peter Johnson

      3 hits

      • Michael Scott

        It was 2 when I made the comment. But I appreciate the update.

        • Peter Johnson

          Getting hot at the right time .

        • buyselltrade

          Unfortunately Span was thrown out attempting to steal a base.

          • Peter Johnson

            I am like Earl Weaver, all that running is overrated , stop killing rallies and stay on the base .

          • Michael Scott

            DFA him. nobody gets thrown out stealing.

          • buyselltrade

            I am all for Span on the Giants team.

            The team offense is based upon OBP and conga line hitting, not the 3 run home run.

            Having a player at lead off that is a threat to steal just about every time on base would have rippling positive effects.

            Span is acceptable and a good player. Season 2016 he stole 12 bases and was thrown out 7 times.

          • Michael Scott

            I know his numbers.

    • paul in p.v.

      AND he ran a long way fast to track down a sinking liner in LF early on. Buster Olney must’ve been on sedatives when he saw Span.

  • Peter Johnson

    Kontos throwing middle in to a batter that swings at everything, nice one George.

  • Peter Johnson

    Marrero, sign him up !

  • You would think BLAKE would practice his flops in private with no cameras so that when it does happen it doesn’t appear so obvious https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial/status/845101465941217280

    • Keep’n It Real

      I saw this early on on ESPN. I’m sorry, but this guy just rubs me the wrong way. I know DeAndre wouldn’t have been that soft. He plays like “the man” when a team doesn’t have anyone that can defend him, but goes mouse-mode when Draymond is defending him.

  • Wally Pipp

    According to my wife you guys/gals on TWG have picked me up for about a month and a half. I was getting a little depressed thinking 17 would be better than 2016 but as you all know that has not been the case. So the recent news that Chuck Barris died really put me over the edge. The wife had me on a time out for poor behavior and now she’s sleeping on a different cloud and I am out back with the Babe, Zim, and others who love a six pack or two of Primo Beer. Up here Primo Beer is not like that near beer they sold in Hawaii – 50 years ago.

    Pip pip, cheerio to all you old ready and willing chaps! I must go sally forth – avoiding the wife to find where Babe -Teddy Ballgame and Zimmer have hidden the beer.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/22/chuck-barris-host-of-the-gong-show-who-wildly-claimed-to-be-a-cia-assassin-dead-at-87/?utm_term=.f24d2d563953

  • Peter Johnson

    Funny people think anybody can play LF

  • Ham & Egging It

    The box score is not up yet on yahoo. I’ll guess and say Smarge did well.

    • Peter Johnson

      ESPN

    • 610nm

      4.0 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 0 ER. Only 47 pitches, 31 for strikes. EDIT: and he doubled in the first run.

      • Ham & Egging It

        Nice rebound game for him, thanks.

  • Peter Johnson

    Law lets go !

    • DrLefty

      He’s not getting much help from his defense, in fairness. Hwang plays left field like a third baseman.

      • Easier conversion from IF to OF than OF to IF – but yea….

      • Peter Johnson

        2 strikes and can not put guys away , a trend this spring .

      • Peter Johnson

        Choke !!

        • Might have needed the Heimlich maneuver

          • Peter Johnson

            To many hits given up after getting ahead 0-2 in the count .

      • Michael Scott

        Keeping Ruggiano in the mix.

  • Busters “double” Goldy – who is interviewed in this video really had a great experience at the WBC http://m.mlb.com/video/v1246637283/world-baseball-classic-champions-return-back-to-camp/?affiliateId=clubMEGAMENU

    • Peter Johnson

      Only difference Goldy has a bald spot growing on the top of his head .

  • Reyes who…..on the mound?

    • DrLefty

      Reyes who is going to be in the Giants’ bullpen before 2017 is over, that’s who.

  • Peter Johnson

    175 LBS, really !

  • Starting to feel like the last Cubs-Gints game of 2016

  • Peter Johnson

    Yes , thanks Pablo JR.

  • Michael Scott

    Moronta is holding back- only throwing 95.

  • totalfan62

    There we go. Reyes Moronta is one to watch.

    • paul in p.v.

      Ain’t that the guy Lefty raved about?

      • DrLefty

        Yep

  • 6-5 Final – thank you to all that think one thing matters during spring training….save health….

    Smarge gets the WIN with four scoreless. The Shark was cruising in shallow waters.

    4-3-2-1 = games left in the desert….(one “s”)

  • 2holehitting
    • Peter Johnson

      You have issues , Stalker !

    • Michael Scott

      Hey, if you live another 108 years, you can celebrate another Cubby title.

    • Clutch Shortstop however….haha….he’s even good enough (cough) to start for the Cub_s

  • 305 Start tomorrow with Chris Stratton on the mound instead of Cueto who goes to minor league camp so that the Friars do not get a heads-up look at Johnny Ballgame.

    • Peter Johnson

      Giants scared of the Padres, do not tell Fitz, he thinks they are easy wins despite his favorite Giants Pitcher , Matt Cain having a 8-14 lifetime record vs the Padres, he loved to say Tim Lincecum could only beat the Padres, he has an 18-6 life time record vs Padres

    • Michael Scott

      Stratton is not to be discounted.

  • channelclemente

    That game reminded me way too much of THAT 9th inning against the Cubs.

    • Michael Scott

      Only 2 pitchers.

      • channelclemente

        Well, that makes it all better. Thanks, a bunch for lightening the mood.

  • Ham & Egging It

    UCLA-Kentucky tonight. I’m curious enough to watch.

    • Sgbssfg

      I used to be a fan of UCLA basketball. That godawful father of 3 has ruined it for me.

      • Ham & Egging It

        He’s a coaches nightmare. But, he peaked my interest.

        • totalfan62

          He’s pouring everything he has…into extending his 15 minutes of fame. Sorry, LaVar–party’s just about over.

          • Efrain

            sorry to break the news, but not really. Lonzo about to be top three pick. Then even if the middle son is not as good, the younger one is looking to be very very good, maybe top PG in his class.

          • totalfan62

            His kids? Yes. LaVar? No. The NBA will not put up with his nonsense.

          • Efrain

            I’m not saying that. But he will be around because he will have two more kids in school.

            He even said in an interview, as long as the media keeps asking him questions, he’ll be around. Simple solution = no media.

            As a grown man you can also chose to not read or watch anything with him right?

            If a song you don’t like comes on the radio, what do you do? Turn to another station or listen to it?

            Simple right?

          • totalfan62

            Just think he’s using his kids to further his own agenda, vs. just being a supportive father. Stepped way over the line with the LeBron comments.

          • Efrain

            agree but again….Lonzo is playing tonight, and he will go on to the pros, if his dad talks or not.

            So the only thing to do is just ignore it of one doesn’t like it.

          • Both brothers are UCLA bound

          • Ham & Egging It

            He could act as Lonzo’s agent.

          • totalfan62

            Wouldn’t Lonzo be better served with an agent who is knowledgeable within the industry, vs. his father who would be a neophyte in that world?

          • Ham & Egging It

            He’s a degenerate micromanager. They’re not the trusting type, especially where money is concerned.

      • Efrain

        The son doesn’t talk at all and play a solid game. He’s the one your would be watching tonight, not the father.

        • Effie
          When you having kids?

        • Sgbssfg

          I found myself sympathizing with LeBron. The father is a nightmare and will probably make GM’s take pause.

      • Ham & Egging It

        I hope the camera leaves him alone. But he seems to be good for ratings

      • Mother Ball seems OK

    • channelclemente

      AZ loses to Xavier of all teams.

      • Efrain

        Xavier has a top ten (#9) recruiting class and has been running a top program for a decade. Actually not much of a surprise.

        • channelclemente

          Don’t tell anyone else. Nonetheless, it was an upset according to the pundit class.

        • totalfan62

          Even longer, really–especially when you look with a longer view. We lived in Cincinnati in the late 80s, and I was very impressed by their program. They’ve always competed.

        • “Zavier” is my bracket team.

      • That game was rugged

  • Fake Brandon Belt Movie Review

    “Frantz” starring Paula Beer and Pierre Niney (lots of Pierre’s where I am at)
    French and German sub-titles
    Trailer at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8nIZqh2854

    13 Thumbs Up = Man jumping Off Chair

    • Ham & Egging It

      Looks good.

  • Efrain

    Well looks like our future RF will fit right in with our infirmary unit:

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18994900/detroit-tigers-jd-martinez-lisfranc-3-4-weeks

  • paul in p.v.

    Did Law stink it up, or was that simply the box score that stunk?

    • channelclemente

      Yes. 2 strikes, can’t get anyone out-itis.

      • totalfan62

        Gave up a lot of hard hit balls.

    • Michael Scott

      Got a stinker out of the way.

    • P UUUUU

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        but seriously, is he healthy? ball coming out of hand well, velocity there?

        • DrLefty

          Part of his bad inning (not all of it) was shaky defense. How do you say “Drunken Baby Giraffe” in Korean? That’s what Hwang looked like, taking a “route” to a fly ball to left. And Gillaspie couldn’t come up with in infield play, either–both scored as hits, but better defense would have reduced the stress.

          That said, Law didn’t seem to be locating well, either.

  • Michael Scott

    I’m disappointed with BB in the 2 slot. He can’t get anything right. You have to move those guys over, not drive ’em in.

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      OD L/U?

      Span
      Belt
      Pence
      Posey
      Crawford
      Panik
      Parker
      Gillapsie
      Bumgarner

      Tell me true, would you break up the lefties from 5-8? I only put Pence 3 because that’s where he batted today and maybe that’s a sign.

      • Bapah

        5/9 LHBs?

        • DrLefty

          6.

          • Bapah

            I wasn’t sure, who’s 6?
            Crawford
            Panik
            Parker
            Belt
            Span

          • Peter Johnson

            Gilaspie, DL for Nunez

      • Michael Scott

        I wouldn’t write Gillaspie’s name in ink quite yet.

    • L M A O

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    Saw this guy mentioned below – some copy and past reports from Longenhagen and Sickels.

    #17-Moronta and his squat frame toiled away in the lowest levels of the minors for four years without much success, but he broke out this year, albeit as a 23-year old in High-A. He has upper-90s heat that plays up because of a deceptive, high-effort delivery and above-average slider projection. His body has zero projection and he’s very clearly limited to relief, but he has made strides in controlling the baseball and could be a setup type of arm at maturity.

    Recorded 93 strikeouts in 59 Cal League innings.

    16) Reyes Moronta, RHP, Grade C+: Age 23, signed out of Dominican Republic in 2010; posted 2.59 ERA in 59 innings in High-A, 93/20 K/BB, 43 hits, 14 saves; note insane K/IP ratio, generated with 96-99 with plus slider; doesn’t have a true change-up and command is erratic but could move rapidly as fireballing reliever if he throws enough strikes. ETA late 2018.

    Giants may need bullpen help ealry should any problems arise with Law and/or Strickland. I’m sure they’ll be fine, but with Smith out, Giants would love nothing more than to see these two right handers throwing well and feeling good.

    • Michael Scott

      Actually, for a young fireballer, he’s shown pretty good command.

      • totalfan62

        Yeah, I remember him from Foothills prospect notes. I think Lefty had a report on him as well. He looked good today.

        • DrLefty

          He was extremely impressive when we saw him in Scottsdale two weeks ago. Electric stuff. Looking forward to watching him in Sacramento.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Got Black and Crick licked.

        • DrLefty

          Could be an intriguing River Cats bullpen with Black, Crick, and Moronta.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Or Moronta passes through Richmond first?

            & what about Rodolfo Martinez? Has he pitched much in camp?

          • DrLefty

            Not much on Martinez. He wasn’t even a NRI in camp. He kind of flamed out after his promotion to Richmond and in the AFL.

            Per the Giants’ transactions, Moronta and Crick were optioned to Sacramento, but Black was optioned to Richmond.

          • Michael Scott

            Ray will be 27 this summer. A team will stick with an electric pitcher for a quite awhile but he has to cut down on his walks- soon. One per inning will not get him up here. Might need to cut it almost in half.

    • DrLefty

      The Rockies’ TV announcers were snickering at his official weight of “175.”

      • Michael Scott

        Well, 1 and a 2 look pretty much alike.

        • Peter Johnson

          What happens is they weigh prospects when thy originally sign them as teenagers, and never change the weight as they get older, a lot like Drivers licenses , I think I am still 165 on mine .

          • DrLefty

            They have Joan Gregorio at 6’7″, 180. I’ve seen him from 13 rows back from the field, and I’d say 230 at minimum.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Where’s he been at camp this spring? Figured he might be a name to watch.

          • DrLefty

            He pitched a bit earlier and was among the first or second wave of cuts along with Blackburn and Stratton. I’m not sure what I think about him. Watched him a few times in Sac last year, and he can be very good or very off. He has a consistency issue.

          • Michael Scott

            I was being silly again. 175, 275- hard to tell them apart.

  • totalfan62

    South Carolina putting the wood to Baylor. Up by 18 under 10 minutes. Impressive team getting better at exactly the right time.

    • DrLefty

      Good. Go “other” USC!

  • paul in p.v.

    Ok, riddle me this – how the hell do you send Marrero down?

    • DrLefty

      One MLB player has 7 HRs in spring training. Marrero is tied with two others (one is Bryce Harper) at 6.

      I don’t think you can send him down. He’s making my March 25 roster, and that’s final.

      My very analytical scouting report on him from spring training: When he hits the ball, it’s LOUD.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        A very important characteristic!

      • Peter Johnson

        He also hit a walk off HR vs Puerto Rico, that is not counted so 7 actually ., he is on my team ., DrLefty and Ryan are not known for liking HRs, Defense 1st for DrLefty and slap hitting for Ryan , with speed .

        • Peter Johnson

          Sorry you both have Marrero !

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    Bench: Hundley, Hwang, Tomlinson, Marrero, Ruggiano/Hernandez?

    Hasn’t Gorkys Hernandez been Jimmy Rollins bad this spring? That would be quite a gas if Hwang, Marrero, and Ruggiano make the roster.

    • DrLefty

      It’s a couple of bad choices between Gorkys (.125) and Ruggiano (.206). Gorkys is probably the better glove as a defensive backup, but Ruggiano has had legit major league experience and some success, especially vs. lefties. On a happier note, Span’s been on a tear the last week or two.

      I think I’d probably roll the dice with Ruggiano as having more upside as a bench player. Gorkys is not likely to get grabbed off waivers if they try to send him to AAA. Then Gorkys and Duggar can provide some minor league depth in CF. That’s what I would do.

      • Peter Johnson

        Problem for Ruggiano is he has not played CF in camp much , mostly corner OF, was a CF but not recently, is older and has had lots of injuries .

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        maybe Kelby can cover CF? I wonder what happend with his OF process. Didn’t he play LF in minor league game yesterday? I fully expect Duggar to start the season in AA, then earn his promotion to AAA. If he’s doing really well, he could get a Sept. call up. If an exigency arises, he could make the jump all the way.

  • HaakAway

    If you are ready… 25-Man lists…

    • Peter Johnson

      Posted mine on previous post, it’s on the top of the page .

    • DrLefty

      Oops, just missed you: see below

  • DrLefty

    OK, HaakAway’s in AZ, but I’m ready to commit.

    Lineup (not in order): Span, Panik, Belt, Pence, Parker, Posey, Crawford, Gillaspie (Nunez starts season on DL)

    Rotation: Bum, Cueto, Moore, Shark, and (sigggh) Cain
    Bullpen: Melancon, Law, Strickland, Okert, Osich, Kontos, and Ramirez (Blach optioned, Gearrin DFA’d and back in AAA)

    Bench: Hundley, Marrero, Ruggiano, Tomlinson, and Hill

    Haak, if you see this, can you confirm?

    • Matthew

      YOU GAVE IN?!?!?!?!?!

      • Peter Johnson

        So did I on Cain, but , I have Blach in bullpen, over Osich

      • DrLefty

        🙁

    • livfreerdi

      No Hill! The Giants need offense

    • HaakAway

      Got it

  • Matthew

    Mad Bum, Cueto, Moore, Samardzija, Blach, Kontos, Okert, Law, Osich, Gearrin, Strickland, Melancon

    Posey, Hundley

    Belt, Panik, Crawford, Gillaspie, Tomlinson, Hill, Marrero

    Span, Pence, Parker, Hernandez

    (DL – Cain, Nunez, Morse, Brown, Efrain)

    • Efrain

      I can still post from the DL 😉

      • Matthew

        Oh, how I know….👊🏻

  • Efrain

    I thought I had this down but here goes:

    ROTATION: Bum, Cueto, Moore, Smarge and Cain (I really thought it would be Blach earlier in ST but with Evans’s recent words, guess it’s Cain)
    INF: Posey, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Hill (Will Nunez starting on the DL)
    OF: Parker, Span, Pence
    Bench: Hill, Hwang, Marrero, Tomlinson, Gorkys and Hundley
    Pen: Malencon, Okert, Blach, Strickland, Kontos, Saurez

    (Do I need to add Nunez on the final 25 now? Once he is back, I say Hill or Hwang go to AAA).

    • Matthew

      BELT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Peter Johnson

      You have Hill twice no Gilaspie .

      • Matthew

        You’re a tougher teacher than Lefty…you miss nothing!

      • Efrain

        Thanks!

    • totalfan62

      Bochy won’t go w/six relievers. He’d push for seven given half a chance. It’s Hwang or Marrero, with Law added to bullpen.

    • HaakAway

      Got them

  • HaakAway

    Sorry all… you have to post as a Reply to my post or I will miss it.

    I am in AZ and without WiFi, with my sons, etc. so you have to follow my request: Reply to one of my posts.

    Thnx

    • buyselltrade

      Injuries have changed my projected ODLU.

      Rotation: Bumgarner, Cueto, Moore, Smardzija, Cain
      Infield: Posey, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Gillaspie (Nunez on DL)
      Outfield: Parker, Span, Pence
      Bench: Hundley, Hill, Hwang, Tomlinson, Marrero
      Bullpen: Melencon, Law, Strickland, Okert, Kontos, Blach, Ramirez.

      DL: Smith, Nunez, Morse
      DFA: Gearrin, Gorkys Hernandez (and hopefully retained at AAA)

      • Michael Scott

        Everybody seems to think that Nunez will go on the DL. He may ,but it’s not certain. Did I miss something? I haven’t seen that he’s already on DL. It would appear that it’s still up in the air.

        • buyselltrade

          If the Nunez on DL status is clarified, we have one more day to modify OD LU.

          • Peter Johnson

            No backup CF.

          • buyselltrade

            Parker for now and there is some slack because of extra days off in early season

            Hopefully Gorkys Hernandez retained at AAA in case of early injury.

            More hopefully is that another serviceable CF is obtained by trade during the season.

            I am not sold on Gorkys being other than AAAA and also that Ruggiano is not an answer as back up CF.

          • Peter Johnson

            Parker has played CF, but I doubt , he will be asked to, unless an emergency, G. Hernandez only legit backup CF , so will make team regardless of his bat, Giants will not sacrifice defense in middle of the field, CF, SS, 2nd, C, they will in corners, LF, RF, 3rd, 1st .

          • buyselltrade

            You may be correct.

            I am thinking the Giants can get by with only an emergency CF for the first 20 games or so (and then the best solution may be to send out a infielder for Gorkys).

            It was deliberate on my part to make part of the 25PlayerTeam not the obvious.

            I wanted Hwang on the team.

            I would rather have Cain on DL and also have Stratton or Suarez to start the season.

          • Michael Scott

            Peter has to be right, even if he’s wrong. Be kind. If he’s wrong, tell him that it’s Paul Ryan’s fault.

          • Michael Scott

            You were the one who said that defense was overrated. I have seen what you think about this. I’m done talking about it.Yak with someone else.

          • Michael Scott

            I’ve been leaning to Ruggiano if Gorkys has played himself out of it.

          • Peter Johnson

            Ruggiano has not been playing CF in camp, he has played CF in the past , but age and injuries might have caught up with him .

          • Michael Scott

            I know where he’s played. I still think that he might be on the team.

          • Peter Johnson

            You say I do not care about Defense, I do , and I know Bochy does in CF for sure .

          • Michael Scott

            Peter, fine you disagree. You may be right, Now let it go.

        • Peter Johnson

          Everybody is guessing, after Smith came back to soon , Giants might be more cautious .

        • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

          retroactive DL?

      • HaakAway

        Okay

    • Matthew

      OK…FINE…I’ll retype it later?

    • Matthew

      Mad Bum, Cueto, Moore, Samardzija, Blach, Kontos, Okert, Law, Osich, Gearrin, Strickland, Melancon

      Posey, Hundley

      Belt, Panik, Crawford, Gillaspie, Tomlinson, Hill, Marrero

      Span, Pence, Parker, Hernandez

      (DL – Cain, Nunez, Morse, Brown, Efrain)

      • HaakAway

        Thanks for taking this shot…. updated you.

    • Peter Johnson

      Bum, Cueto , Moore, the Shark, Cain, Blach, Kontos, Law, Strickland, Melancon, Okert,Ramirez Posey, Hundley, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Gillaspie, Tomlinson, Hill, Marrero, Span, Pence, Parker, Hernandez . DL for Nunez .

      • HaakAway

        Okay I have made those changes. Good luck.

    • steve k

      here’s mine haakman:

      bum, cueto, mm, marge, cain
      buster, belt, panik, craw, gillaspie, pence, span, parker
      kontos, law, strik9, melancon, okert, osich, gearrin,
      hill, hwang, gorks, kt, marrero

      • Peter Johnson

        No back up catcher, Hundley .

        • steve k

          ty

      • HaakAway

        You are updated

    • Skweezplay55

      Sent mine via email.

    • crawnik

      Ok Haak, changing it up too:

      Bum, Cueto, Moore, Shark, Cain
      Buster, Hundley
      Belt, Panik, Craw, Nunez
      Parker, Span, Pence
      Melancon, Law, Strickland, Kontos, Ramirez, Okert, Blach
      Hill, Hwang, Marrero, Gillaspie

      • HaakAway

        Got you

        • steve k

          you got mine sr. haakster?

          • HaakAway

            Summary: drop Hill and Mac; add Parker, Hwang, overt, Marrero?

        • steve k

          i see your reply now haak, thx

    • DrLefty

      OK, HaakAway’s in AZ, but I’m ready to commit.

      Lineup (not in order): Span, Panik, Belt, Pence, Parker, Posey, Crawford, Gillaspie (Nunez starts season on DL)

      Rotation: Bum, Cueto, Moore, Shark, and (sigggh) Cain
      Bullpen: Melancon, Law, Strickland, Okert, Osich, Kontos, and Ramirez (Blach optioned, Gearrin DFA’d and back in AAA)

      Bench: Hundley, Marrero, Ruggiano, Tomlinson, and Hill

      Haak, if you see this, can you confirm?

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Does Hwang go to AAA or head to another organization?

    • Skweezplay55

      Hey Haak–

      Here you go!

      C – Posey, Hundley
      IF – Belt, Panik, Crawford, Gillaspie, KT, Hill
      OF – Span, Williamson, Marrero, Parker, Gorkys
      SP – Bum, Cueto, Moore, Samardzija, Cain
      RP – Strickland, Melancon, Okert, Law, Kontos, Osich, Blach

      • HaakAway

        Our 2015 champ has spoken

        • Moooooooooose

          I’m going with the 2015 champ except Hwang in for Marrero.

          • HaakAway

            Okay … it makes sense.

          • HaakAway

            Double checking… did you notice Skweez had Pence on the DL? If you agree then we are fine but if you want Pence then you have to cut one more pick [Mac?]

    • JStreet

      Breaking camp with 25.

      Bumgarner, Cueto, Moore, Smarge, Cain
      Posey, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Hill
      Parker, Span, Pence
      Gillaspie, Hwang, Marrero, Tomlinson, Hernandez, Huntley
      Melancon, Okert, Blach, Strickland, Kontos, Saurez

      • HaakAway

        Welcome

    • giantc

      SP: Bumgarner, Cueto, Moore, Smarge, Blach
      RP: Melancon, Law, Strickland, Okert, Osich, Kontos, Ramirez
      Starting 8: Posey, Belt, Panik, Hwang, Crawford, Parker, Span, Pence
      Bench: Marrero, Tomlinson, Gillapsie, Ruggiano, Hundley

      • HaakAway

        I got your picks

    • Lunch_Box

      Rotation: MadBum, Cueto, Moore, Samardjiza, Cain (bleh)
      Catchers: Posey, Hundley
      Infielders: Belt, Panik, Crawford, Nunez, Gillaspie, Hwang
      Outfielders: Pence, Span, Parker, Hernandez, Marrero
      Bullpen: Melancon, Law, Strickland, Kontos, Okert, Osich, Blach

      • HaakAway

        You are in

    • Bapah

      The deadline is 11:59 PM tonight, right?

      • HaakAway

        Yes

  • The Oracle

    I’ve said it before. Lonzo Ball is overrated and is going to receive a sobering dose of reality in the NBA. He has excellent vision and is a good passer, but he’s going to get exploited by the athletes at the next level. He’s going to have to make some significant adjustments to have a successful career.

    • Matthew

      Haven’t seen him…too slow?

      • The Oracle

        He’s not a great athlete, not a great shooter, and doesn’t play defense. He’s getting thoroughly owned by Kentucky’s freshman point guard.

        • The Oracle

          Update: and he eventually just quit competing.

          • Matthew

            I see he declared about 2 minutes after the game. Apparently, he’s too good for college

          • The Oracle

            He’ll get drafted near the top and make some good money. He’ll also be a disappointment.

    • Michael Scott

      Lonzo Ball Duvall. He’s moonlighting?

    • Giants54

      Curry had a lot of doubters coming out of college.

      • Matthew

        Curry tore up college competition in the tournament, though

      • The Oracle

        Curry was already a great shooter and a dominant college player at a time when the quality of play in college was better (the one and done era was just getting started). Ball is neither.

  • just peachy.

    UCLA losing helped make up for Villanova losing. I’m back on top in my pool!

  • Moooooooooose
    • Matthew

      He really needs to be fired.

  • Moooooooooose
  • HaakAway

    Checking so others can post 25-man.

    Those who have Nunez just give me his replacement… he looks to be injured; I have not seen him here in AZ the last two days.

    I will get you all in but post to me in Reply only.

    • 610nm

      I think I need to sub out Williamson to Gorkys, and Nunez to Murrero, because of the spate of injuries. Span is back to being a starter, after getting it going a bit.

      OF: Parker, Span, Pence plus Hwang, Gorkys
      IF: Belt, Panik, Crawford, Gillaspie, plus KT and Murrero
      C: Buster the greatest plus Hundley
      SP: Bumgarner, Cueto, Moore, Samardzija, plus Cain
      RP: Melancon, Law, Strickland, Kontos, plus Blach, Okert, Gearrin

      It is much clearer now than a month ago, but still not easy.

      • Peter Johnson

        Hwang is not an Outfielder, and it showed yesterday , Marrero has started in LF in the Minors including last year, he started 22 games in LF.

        • 610nm

          If Nunez really on the DL, I’d expect Gillaspie and Hwang to split quite a bit of time at 3B. I didn’t know Marrero could play outfield some. It would be nice to have both Hwang and Marrero’s bats available, with both of them probably better than ‘water buffalo grade’. Cheers!

          • HaakAway

            I have been converted to Marrero. He looks like Morse of 2014.

      • HaakAway

        I got your update

        • 610nm

          You’re a good man, Haak!

      • Bapah

        Who’s this Spate guy you mentioned? NRI? I don’t have him.

    • DrLefty

      I have this above but am also pasting here:
      Haak: I woke up in the middle of the night with a revelation that I need to make a change to what I sent you. Since it’s still Mar. 25, is that OK? Here’s my new version:

      Lineup (not in order): Span, Panik, Belt, Pence, Parker, Posey, Crawford, Gillaspie

      Pitchers: Bum, Cueto, Moore, Shark, Cain, Melancon, Law, Strickland, Okert, Blach, Kontos, and Ramirez

      Bench: Hundley, Marrero, Ruggiano, Tomlinson, and Hill

      [The change is that I’ve swapped in Blach for Osich. I think they’re going to decide they need Blach as a primary lefty out of the pen who will double as a long reliever on Cain’s days.]

      • HaakAway

        Okay… Blach added; Osich dropped. This is just one of the many interesting options Bochy and Company face.

  • Matthew

    HaakAway has set up his roster review session with Evans for tomorrow. Part of that meeting is to remove the WABAC machine that Mr. Peabody had gifted to the organization, to be replaced by the TWiGeration Roster Generator.

    This upcoming week will be the most interesting of the spring by far, and our reactions here will be incredibly entertaining

    • Sgbssfg

      Wayback machine? Great 60’s reference.

      • Matthew

        I still have my 3DBB!!

  • steve k
    • Lunch_Box

      The beginning of the song sounds like the theme song of an 80s sitcom airing between “Bosom Buddies” and “One Day at a Time”.

  • HaakAway

    Your TWG Insider: Suarez left yesterday with two guys walking with him during the game. Maybe it means nothing but no other player left like that. I tweeted Ritzo about it but he said he had heard nothing.

    Something to watch for you all making final picks.

    • DrLefty

      Agreed–that doesn’t sound normal.

    • DrLefty

      Haak: I woke up in the middle of the night with a revelation that I need to make a change to what I sent you. Since it’s still Mar. 25, is that OK? Here’s my new version:

      Lineup (not in order): Span, Panik, Belt, Pence, Parker, Posey, Crawford, Gillaspie

      Pitchers: Bum, Cueto, Moore, Shark, Cain, Melancon, Law, Strickland, Okert, Blach, Kontos, and Ramirez

      Bench: Hundley, Marrero, Ruggiano, Tomlinson, and Hill

      [The change is that I’ve swapped in Blach for Osich. I think they’re going to decide they need Blach as a primary lefty out of the pen who will double as a long reliever on Cain’s days.]

      • Peter Johnson

        Looks familiar , oh it is my 25 man roster, if Nunez is ok all of us will be wrong, so that is ok , sorry I have Hernandez, you have Ruggiano, never mind .

        • Peter Johnson

          I am the defensive poster, going for Hernandez even though he has not hit a lick .

          • 610nm

            Look at you go, Peter! Plus pointing out to me below that Hwang isn’t a real good look as an OF.
            Gorkys has the advantage of being able to backup CF, until one of the guys in the minors arrives. Could do a bunch of late game defensive substituting in the meantime.

          • HaakAway

            What have you done with the RealPJ?

        • DrLefty

          My argument on Gorkys vs. Ruggie is that they can stash Gorkys in AAA if they’re worried about a defensive backup for Span. No one’s grabbing a 30-year-old AAAA guy who hit .125 in spring training off waivers. Ruggiano has actual major league success on his resume and can hit lefties with power. They may try him for awhile, and if he’s still not hitting, scuttle him for Gorkys or even Steve Duggar.

          We shall see.

          • Peter Johnson

            Here’s your problem, I can not remember Ruggiano playing CF this Spring , and if he did , not much, and Bochy needs backup for Span .

          • DrLefty

            They can throw either him or Parker out there in a pinch. They’ve both played CF before. Do you keep Gorkys and his non-bat on the roster just for an emergency, and do you give him 4 ABs when Span needs a day? I’d rather have Ruggiano starting against a lefty and cross my fingers and say a prayer when a ball gets hit to CF. It’s not like Span’s all that great out there, either.

          • Peter Johnson

            I would think about that, but doubt Bochy would, he is a pitching and defense manager at heart, Gorkys will be a late inning defensive replacement in close games .

          • Matthew

            The thing about those borderline guys to me: often times, GM’s and personnel evaluators aren’t looking at Spring Training batting average. They are looking specifically at their roster holes, and taking a much wider lens to the analysis.

            What I saw in Gorky last season us that he’s MLB talent. Oh, to be honest, it’s bench talent.

            It may be the right move to keep Ruggiano and waive Gorkys. But, he WOULD have a very significant chance to be snagged off waivers. His spring batting average is insignificant

          • DrLefty

            His spring batting average is not insignificant because he has zero track record as an effective major league hitter (career .205). I know he was a breath of fresh air last September because Span was having an awful stretch AND bad in the outfield, but let’s not get carried away about who Gorkys is. Every system has a glove-first OF who can’t hit.

          • Matthew

            Again…the point is that they are watching his at bats…not his batting average. I stand by; he’s major league talent. Not carried away. If you look at tools, he has speed, defense and arm that are clearly MLB worthy. GM’s often take flyers on those dudes (Torres, Blanco, and many others prove that)

          • The Oracle

            Look at his record. It screams minor leaguer. He had a grand total of 54 ABs last season.

          • totalfan62

            Reference Perez, Juan.

          • DrLefty

            I was thinking about him, too.

          • Bapah

            I wish he were still here. WOuldn’t it be nice to have a CF that didn’t let the ball hit the ground, had a powerful arm and could make impossible catches. SO what he didn’t hit with high average, I saw him put a few out. Plus he could run the bases.

      • HaakAway

        Okay… if Suarez is down I am going with Blach but several of you have switched to Rameriz. Is he one of those that they lose if they do not put on the 25-man,

        • DrLefty

          For me Ramirez takes Gearrin’s spot as the fifth righty. Bullpen is five righties (Melancon the closer) and two lefties (Blach the long man).

          • HaakAway

            Gearrin was not effective Thursday against a weak Mariners team. He was throwing side arm only which I have never noticed.

        • Peter Johnson

          Ramirez as a rookie for the Cubs in 2014, had a 1.44 ERA in 50 games pitched, had a decent 2016, 3.era, last year he was bad, but is having a great spring with the Giants, easy way for 40 man is with Smith out for the year, replace him .

          • DrLefty

            Yes, they can make two 40-man spots by putting Smith and Gardeck on the 60-day DL.

            Ramirez has 15 Ks in 8.1 innings this spring. That’ll get your attention. And Gearrin’s had an awful spring.

          • Peter Johnson

            I think Ramirez might have been injured in 2015-2016, his innings were light in 2015, so in 2016 might have came back to soon, not sure .

          • DrLefty

            Yes, I think I read when the Giants signed him that he’d had injury issues. But I also remembered he had a great rookie year with the Cubs.

      • earlytimes

        I still think they go with all 3 lefty’s Blach Osich and Okert.

        • DrLefty

          Hmmm…that could happen, too, especially if they see Blach as the primary long man.

  • DrLefty

    It’s been a good 24 hours for Ty Blach. Not only did he get engaged, but he got added to my revised My25ManGuy™ roster.

    Here’s his Tweet: https://twitter.com/tyblach/status/845666097562976259

    • Lunch_Box

      he’s more proud of the latter.

      • DrLefty

        As he should be. I’m #TeamBlach all the way, but I also like to win, and I’m reluctantly accepting that they’re going to start off with Cain in the rotation whether I like it or not.

        (Win the MyGuy™ competition, that is.)

        • totalfan62

          Bochy needs to give him a fair shot out of the bullpen. This kid has EARNED it.

          • channelclemente

            I suspect Blach will go to Sac, to pitch and be ready for his inevitable call up.

  • GSDUbs

    Before you try to convince anyone about wanting to move him to 1B sooner than later – surely you remember those discussions – there’s this:

    http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/78264/what-makes-buster-posey-baseballs-best-defensive-catcher

    • DrLefty

      And the other thing: The Giants once again are built around a strong rotation. An A-list catcher whom the pitchers trust is worth his weight in Gold (Gloves, that is).

  • DrLefty

    PJ just raised the important 40-man point. On my March 25 roster, I have four guys who are not currently on the 40 (Hill, Marrero, Ruggiano, and Ramirez). They can open up two spots by moving Smith and Gardeck to the 60-day DL. They can DFA Gorkys and then send him to AAA (again, I just don’t see how anyone’s going to want him that badly). The fourth spot? I don’t know–maybe Calixte gets DFA’d? Or even Gearrin?

    Same problem if you put Hwang on the roster instead of Hill or Marrero. Kelby has the advantage of being on the 40, and that might make a difference.

    • winebaroness27

      Kelby should be on the roster no matter what…
      Can he play 3rd??
      Just wondering…I don’t think I’ve ever seen him over there…

      • earlytimes

        He played 13in last yr with aplomb ;). He also can play LF if need be. He’d also be the only speed guy otb if Gorky’s is sent packing.

        • Michael Scott

          He’s like Duffy- he can play anywhere- he’s in the running for the 2nd LHer in the pen. He’s abmdriztuis- you know, both ways. Ambirytztous, right?

      • DrLefty

        He absolutely can play third. He’s played some this spring and certainly in the minors. He can play SS, 3B, 2B, and LF in a pinch. Valuable, especially with his hitting and his speed.

        • totalfan62

          I’d trust him at all three OF positions, if they’d give him some pre-game work at both positions. He has a SS arm, and he catches on quick.

          • paul in p.v.

            Isn’t it fascinating how strong that skinny kid is?

    • crawnik

      I decided to add Hill, Marrero, Hwang and Ramirez to my 25-man updated roster. I agree with you on sending Smith and Gardeck to 60-day DL. Gearrin gets DFA’d (out of options), and yeah, DFA Gorkys.

      • buyselltrade

        That is what I did except I never even mentioned Gardeck.

  • winebaroness27

    Looking forward to seeing how Stratton does today..

    • DrLefty

      Me too. If, as I suspect, Blach ends up being a key glue guy in the bullpen, we need to see who the next guy up is when/if Cain fails: Beede? Stratton? Blackburn? Stratton could be in a right-place/right-time situation (Smith’s injury forces Blach into a different role, Beede needs more time in the minors).

      • DrLefty

        The Giants also would like to see Stratton be a late-blooming success. He was a first-rounder, and his success makes their system look good.

      • earlytimes

        agreee wth that assessment. Don’t want to rush B d

    • 12xu

      On his MLB profile page, his status is “Reassigned to minors.” Was he one of the guys who didn’t make the cut and this is a courtesy / let’s see him start? I can’t keep track of all the cuts this ST.

      • DrLefty

        “Cutting” them is a procedural move that sends them to minor league camp and saves the team money (they get more meal money while in major league camp). Stratton is starting today because they’re hiding Cueto from the Padres by sending him to minor league camp today.

        • 12xu

          Thanks for the explanation. I knew he was still on the 40 (but not the 25). Yes, let’s hope that he’s just a late-bloomer and not a wasted draft pick. He was drafted in the 1st round by the Giants (20th overall) out of Mississippi State on June 4, 2012. I remember he was at AT&T the night before Cain’s perfect game, saw him interviewed on TV. I always wondered if he stuck around and saw the perfecto the next night.

          • Michael Scott

            About a week ago I went into the deal about the minor league camp players still getting playing time after they go down. It’s always been that way. There was so much angst about those poor kids being sent to the slumlord camp, I had the duty to try to ease the fears. I’m just that way, it’s a curse.

          • DrLefty

            Kind of like how the Prez tweeted this morning”do not worry!” about health care. Made me feel so much better.

          • Michael Scott

            Donald is in for rough go for the few months that he’s still in office. I used to have chickens. A rooster got injured and the hens lost their fear of him. It’s like that.

          • channelclemente

            He’s no longer a blockade on the government highway, he’s more of a pothole.

          • The Oracle

            The hysteria here and elsewhere when Trump won was always misplaced. A President isn’t a dictator and no President, particularly one as divisive as Trump, is going to have an easy time accomplishing anything. What’s entertaining though is that so many arrogant liberals apparently have learned nothing from their extremely well connected and financed candidate’s loss to guy with all of Trump’s negatives. If they’re going to continue to ignore personal responsibility and support things like runaway political correctness and the protection of jailed criminals here illegally, they may someday find themselves with a President much more conservative and politically adept than Trump.

          • paul in p.v.

            “Arrogant liberals.” Oh gawd, do we have to go down this road again?

          • The Oracle

            Don’t worry, Paul. You’re no longer an American, right?

          • paul in p.v.

            Sorry, Pal, but I am.

            (That ‘Love it or leave it’ shite went out with Nixon.)

          • The Oracle

            Where do you live?

          • paul in p.v.

            Big LOLs.

          • channelclemente

            LOL. Make up your meme, folks are either hysterical or arrogant, they can’t be both.

          • DrLefty

            Touche.

          • The Oracle

            Sure they can. It’s being proven every day. No lessons have been learned. Politically, I’m in the middle, where I think the largest percentage of people reside. The middle decides elections. I’m anti-criminal and pro-police (obviously), not a fan of governmental giveaways, in favor of a strong national defense and proud to be an American. I think it’s obvious that any nation should have control of its borders. I’d be very much against a mass round up of people who are here illegally, but have no idea how others can be in favor of protecting criminals who are here illegally.

            I also don’t want government involved in people’s personal lives. I’m for gay marriage, the legalization of marijuana and, although Roe vs. Wade might’ve been the biggest legal stretch in the history of the Supreme Court, definitely not in favor of banning abortion.

            I didn’t vote for Trump, but he was able to win, partly because Clinton was a bad candidate, but also because he had more appeal to the middle. That’s the lesson the democrats need to learn.

          • channelclemente

            TO, you are full of so much fertilizer. Rather than argue about your BS, I’d invite you to read The Dictator’s Handbook. It’s about a lot more than what the title implies, patronage in ALL forms of government. You libertarian types entire schtick is based on a denial of reality and mistaking privacy for independence.

          • The Oracle

            How is what I said libertarian?

          • Bapah

            Read that article and you’ll see who he held sway with.

          • Bapah
          • DrLefty

            Wouldn’t it be great if a bipartisan Congressional coalition worked with the President to improve health care for all?

            Oh, hahahahahaha. Have I mentioned that I’m still in Washington state, where marijuana is legal?

            But seriously: What if Trump went for a “win” and worked with Dems and moderate Republicans to get stuff done on health care? He doesn’t have much in common–and is not beholden to–these hardliners who killed Ryan’s bill.

          • channelclemente

            Can you picture Bannon telling Elizabeth Warren, my way or the highway, as he did GOP Reps.

          • paul in p.v.

            Uncle Ike’s (pot emporium), on 15th and Republican St. That’s no typo. Try the edibles. Also Coastal Kitchen, just a few doors down the avenue.

          • paul in p.v.

            We have a good friend in Germany, who is puzzled that a government would pass a bill to TAKE AWAY healthcare for 24 million of its citizens.

            I pointed out that it’s not about healthcare – it’s a tax cut. (Gracias, Charlie Pierce of Esquire.)

          • Michael Scott

            Our Dems are sounding a little too happy about this-at least try to cut a deal . But Price will try to make the Affordable Care Act worse. It can all be fixed but any repairs would never get through the House. It ain’t happening anytime soon, but single payer cradle to grave is the only way to go, IMO

          • paul in p.v.

            Exactly – no time to throw a party – Price can hamstring the system with a thousand cuts until it collapses.

          • DrLefty

            Totally agree.

          • paul in p.v.

            It’s ironic that this fiasco has made universal Medicare look more and more logical.

          • Bapah

            Too much money in play in the private sector. Although you’d think they’d want someone to take over their white elephant.

          • Michael Scott

            The cruelest feature of this ” Free Market” system is the “free choice” option- if you don’t want coverage for certain options, you don’t have to choose it. Young people don’t think they will die or even get sick. So if they break a leg, have a stroke, get cancer, need preventive card, etc. they might be out in the cold. As we know, insurance is meant to spread the risk. The Free Market system will not do that- it would drive up premiums for those who need the most care and for the poor.

          • channelclemente

            What folks don’t seem to want to grasp is that insurance is an investment business, not a health support and maintenance business. No insurer ever judged its success by the improvements in client health of its customer base. Premiums are the feed stock for a financial enterprise, patient care costs are overhead. That’s, IMO, the ‘free market’ many support unknowingly, perhaps. It’s no accident Warren Buffet started out with a small insurance brokerage in Nebraska, he needed investment capital.

          • Bapah

            Most people don’t realize that banks get their money from insurance companies. Un-earned premiums, earned premiums, then it’s just $$$$$$$$ until they have to do something with it, so they loan it to banks. For those that don’t buy that premise, Why was AIG so involved in the banking crisis when it went down? They were the bank’s creditor.

          • channelclemente

            Yep.

          • paul in p.v.

            I hope you’re right about that, and Cain too.

          • The Oracle

            Do you mean the world hasn’t ended yet?

          • paul in p.v.

            Ever heard of the Nuclear Clock? Ding, dong.

          • Michael Scott

            Not yet. But they’ve changed the Nuclear Code and he doesn’t know the new one.

          • channelclemente

            LMAO. Football pool.

          • The Oracle

            But at least you’re still holding on to the fantasy that Trump is leaving before four years is up.

          • Michael Scott

            You have not been paying much attention. But look, can you still practice law? Their will be a whole lot of lawyering up real soon. Get in on the action.

    • Lunch_Box

      Me too. He hasn’t pitched like a quintessential 1st rounder through most of his minor league career, but I agree with the others that maybe he’s a late bloomer. His numbers in Sacramento were decent and he was serviceable in his limited time with the ball club.

      • Moooooooooose

        Most first rounders don’t pitch like a quintessential 1st rounder!

  • earlytimes

    Well, they certainly have the RH pop off the bench options. But now if Gillaspie is starting no LH off the bench.

    • DrLefty

      I was thinking about that, too. Plus it means six (6) starters hit LH! Pretty much screwed when Mr. Kershaw comes to town.

      But they’ve prioritized RH bench pop so much (and that’s with Mac and Morse out of the immediate picture, too), that they don’t really have another lefty option, do they? Duggar hits lefty, but he’s not a “pop” guy. Ryder Jones?

      • DrLefty

        Didn’t Ryder hit a three-run game-winning HR about five minutes before getting cut last week?

        • earlytimes

          Yep.

        • channelclemente

          That’s officially defined as a straw of questionable grasping utility. Look at the splits against Kershaw. Handedness is the least of our worries.

          • earlytimes

            Dexter Fowler could give a master’s class. Chris Friggin Denorfia has 3 hrs?

          • DrLefty

            Wonder how Ruggiano’s done against Kershaw. I know he owns Bumgarner.

          • DrLefty

            Looked it up: He’s 2 for 8 vs. Kershaw with a HR and a walk. HIRED!

          • Michael Scott

            Don;’t you love the “ownage” thing? Kruk and Kuip can’t resist. They’ll note the small sample size if it’s 1 for 2, after that, it’s full steam ahead.

          • channelclemente

            Kasey and Krew, full throttle ahead, even with the bridge out.

        • Michael Scott

          He had no shot, you know that.

          • DrLefty

            No, of course not. I was just casting about for LH hitters’ names if Conor is in the starting lineup (with Nunez injured).

      • earlytimes

        Insert Hundley 10/40 .250 and Hill 6/26 .231..not much but vs Belt .059 Pence .091 Crawford .138?

        • DrLefty

          Yeah, what’s up with Pence, anyway? Belt and Crawford have a built-in excuse.

          • channelclemente

            See above.

  • Michael Scott

    There are 3 guys ( Osich, Reynolds, Roth) plus Blach, still in the running for the 2nd lefty in the pen.
    Stratton and Suarez are not out of the picture, Stratton as the 5, Albert as the long man but he’s a long shot. I won’t join the dump on Matt Cain campaign, but there are better choices.Ty has not had the type of spring that would locked up the 5 spot,
    With the scrum for the OF and infield reserve spots, it will be a very excruciating few days for a whole lot of players.
    IMO.

    • DrLefty

      I guess March 28 is when they’ll owe some of these minor league contract guys $100K if they don’t cut them before then. That’s also the day the Giants pack up and head back to the Bay Area to play the A’s. Guess we’ll know more fairly quickly.

      • paul in p.v.

        With Hernandez and Bend-it gone, only Hill is on the $100K hook.

        • DrLefty

          Ah, thanks. The beat writers continue to insist that Hill has the inside track for one of the bench jobs. I think the Gs can afford $100K.

          • paul in p.v.

            Alex said Hill’s a lock – I suppose due to Nuñez’s injury. (I see he’s @ 3B today.) I’d much rather see Hwang get a chance, because of his power.

            ” Like Beckham, Hernandez was told he would not make the opening day roster. He requested an early release so he could pursue opportunities elsewhere. Infielder Aaron Hill is the third player with a retention bonus, and he is a near-lock to make the team at this point.”

            Also this: “STOCK WATCH: Chris Marrero hit a deep homer, his seventh of the spring. He also made a nice pick at first, where he looks much more comfortable. At this point, it appears it’s either Marrero or Kelby Tomlinson for that final bench spot.”

            So you ship out or lose a young guy with pop, and hang onto a 35-OTH vet.

            That grinding noise is my molars.

          • DrLefty

            I think probably Hill should be a lock. He was a good veteran depth signing. He brings something different to the table than Kelby does–experience and some power. I’d like to see both of them on the team, and it WILL bug me if Kelby gets sent down, but I can see why they’d want to hang onto Hill, at least initially, especially with Nunez ailing.

          • paul in p.v.

            Agree, he’s a solid ML player, and won’t hurt the team like Tenada or NoCab. But Brisbee’s logic convinced me that Hwang has more upside potential, if he’s not a hack @ 3B:

            http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2017/3/18/14967108/jae-gyun-hwang-sf-giants

            For once I’d like to see the Gints get creative with their roster.

          • paul in p.v.

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          • channelclemente

            I haven’t seen a lot of him, but Hwang is going to make Gillaspea look like a GG candidate at 3B, from what I have seen. The Giants theory of pitching, contact with good/excellent infield defense, almost demands outstanding 3B play. Maybe Wotus can fix another sow’s ear like he did with Gillaspea.

          • Lunch_Box

            I heard different from Rob Deer and Lefty that Hwang has played well at third in Spring Training.

    • totalfan62

      I agree. I haven’t felt this apprehensive at the start of the season in a very long time. We have our homegrown IF, four strong starters and Melancon. After that…a bunch of questions.

      The clarion call of GE/TWG nation to strengthen the OF went unheeded. All three positions are question marks eight days from Opening Day. Bullpen? Big dose of quantity vs. quality. Let’s hope that the best seven–and only seven–ascend and are ready. Smith would have been stellar for us this year. Okert: that’s you. One more: do the right thing and put Cain on the DL, Blach in the rotation and have Beede ready. It’s about youth, Boch.

      At least it looks like we’ll finally have a decent bench. Like I said: apprehensive.

      • Ham & Egging It

        Smarge will be more comfortable as the 4th starter rather than the 3rd hopefully.

      • paul in p.v.

        Yo tambien, tf. I don’t think the Cardinals would smother young talent like los Gigantes habitually do.

  • paul in p.v.

    Craws wit (cspan):

    On one of the team’s flights, Lucroy told Crawford that the WBC was basically an All-Star Game combined with a playoff series. He found that to be an appropriate comparison, and as he has in postseasons, Crawford found a way to keep it light. When he walked into the trainer’s room on Friday, Crawford saw Melancon, who pitched just two-thirds of an inning after joining Crawford and Posey.

    “I asked him if he’s tired,” Crawford said.

  • crawnik
  • channelclemente

    A look at Kershaw’s career splits. You don’t need handedness on your side, you need David and a sling.

    https://i.imgur.com/8opqIAU.png

    • Matthew

      Or Brett Pill and Brandon Hicks

      • DrLefty

        Or Dexter Fowler (sighhhhhh)

      • channelclemente

        But then you’ve got to carry the float on the backside, and explain why sample size was ignored.

      • channelclemente

        I think you beat Kershaw with a strategy, not any particular hitter. Lots of pitches, long ABs. It ups the odds of beating him though, at best, to 50/50.

        • Peter Johnson

          Wrong, he usually throws his fastball early in the count, that is the best pitch to hit, ask Bum .

          • channelclemente

            Right, ask anyone else but Bumgarner about his FB. PJ you can’t generalize skills from one player to another, IMO, without data to make the case.

  • DrLefty

    Morse has decided to rehab his injury and go to AAA Sacramento. Glad to hear it.

    • channelclemente

      He seems to love baseball, in particular Giants baseball.

      • Ham & Egging It

        Can’t fault the guy for not wanting to leave any money on the table after all is said and done with his MLB career.

        • Michael Scott

          It seems like he’s Clark Kent anywhere else.

    • paul in p.v.

      Can’t you just see him coming up in Sept. and contributing to another parade?

      • crawnik

        Hit a HR off Romo to win the pennant?

        • paul in p.v.

          Ew – can you make it Opie instead?

    • Michael Scott

      Whoever gets the right-handed ” pop off the bench” spot will not be safe.

      • channelclemente

        As in ‘pop goes the weasel’ or neighborhood carnival ?

    • Sgbssfg

      What I’ve always liked most about Michael Morse is the sheer joy with which he plays the game. Didn’t think he was ready to give that up.

  • DrLefty

    Hi all. I’m trying to organize a TWG outing at a Sacramento River Cats game this season. To that end, I’ve picked out some weekend dates on the schedule that work for my calendar–mostly Saturdays, but a few Fridays, too.

    If you’re interested, you can go to this Google Doc (link below) and indicate what dates might work for you. Alternatively, email me at leftydana@sbcglobal.net if you don’t want the information on a shared document.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wjYvQbvaGslq4OB2eXjgT3euAa__W5l0fpVMQkgbdpA/edit?usp=sharing

    Depending upon which date is picked, I can look into either a group suite or a block of group tickets in the stands. I have a column in the Google Doc where you can indicate your preference about that, too.

    I’d like to get this nailed down in the next couple weeks, so please do go to the link and/or email me to let me know of your interest!

    • paul in p.v.

      I’d love to be there but never know when I’ll be passing thru No. Calif. Please let us know what date you settle on.

    • Bapah

      Same for me as our Mexican friend.

      • paul in p.v.

        I’ll go if you do Bap!

        • Bapah

          I’ll try, Paul, but it’s all about timing and I usually don’t have the lead time necessary for those trips. I do think it would be fun.

          • paul in p.v.

            If Alvise and Oracle show up they’re gonna need us.

          • Bapah

            Speaking of Alvise (Nino), I’m a bit worried. He and I communicated quite a bit outside the blog and he hasn’t responded to a handful of recent emails. My kids are headed to Venice this evening and he had told me to write him when they were coming. Crickets.

            He wasn’t healthy, so I hope he’s OK and was just out of town.

          • paul in p.v.

            He showed up on TWG a couple days ago, under a navigational gravatar. ‘Course he and Oracle got into it immediately, dammit.

          • Bapah

            Was that him? I had no idea.

          • Bapah

            I just went through the last two threads and couldn’t find the avatar; I do remember it, but couldn’t figure out who it was. Hope he comes back.

          • channelclemente

            I remember the compass avatar.

          • Bapah

            I know; couldn’t find it.

  • totalfan62

    So cool that we get another Giants game tonight (MLB Network). It’s up against elite eight games for a Final Four berth, so there will be channel surfing for sure.

    Just hope we see some good baseball.

    • 12xu

      In the bay area, the Giants game is on NBC Bay Area. What’s with the 3:05 starting time?

      • totalfan62

        It’s on MLB at 7:00 PM EDT, so probably a joined in progress thing. Can wait for Opening Day…

  • channelclemente
  • crawnik

    Jae-gyun Hwang wins Barney Nugent Award, given to Giant in first camp who impresses with performance/dedication. Voted on by the team.

    • totalfan62

      That’s a real good sign, IMO. He has to be a dark horse for the 25-man.

      • Matthew

        Be careful…Efrain will call you a racist

    • DrLefty

      He deserves it. 👍🏻

      • Michael Scott

        Didn’t we discuss that he could opt out if went down? I would think that they have to keep him up here.

        • DrLefty

          Yes, they really should. Interesting decisions coming up. I think he’d be a lot more attractive to other teams than, say, Aaron Hill.

    • Lunch_Box

      Hope he won’t enjoy it in Sacramento.

    • Matthew

      Hunter Strickland wins the Ted Nugent Award given to the best bow hunter on the team.

      • Lunch_Box

        No real Ted Nugent Award….its just a head of a jackalope.

  • Matthew

    Great to see that CW31 still has their Clutch Cargo Vocal Timing system in working order. What an amateur outfit

    • Bapah

      What the hell are you talking about?

      • Matthew

        The local NBC station in the valley has NEVER had the audio in sync with the video…for years. Same thing today.

        • Bapah

          The MLB TV feed is pristine

          • Matthew

            Well, aren’t you special?!

          • Bapah

            Well,,, now that you mention it…

    • Andres The Forever Giant

      My NBC Bay Area game experience has been much better since they were moved to the KAIL Fresno CW HD channel. The audio used to be horrid; now I have to turn down the volume. No video glitches now either! 🙂

  • Bapah

    Lettuce Gno if another thread comes.

  • earlytimes

    As for Hwang options, he has an opt out to go back to Korea.

    But….”As Baggarly also writes, agent Han Lee says that the KBO star is committed to pitting himself against MLB pitching. “A lot of people assume if he doesn’t make it, he’s just going to run back to Korea, but that’s not his mentality,” says Lee. “I’ve told him it’s very much possible he could start at Sacramento, and if that’s the case, he’ll just have to work his way up.”

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/jae-gyun-hwang

    • Efrain

      Hwang has shown enough this Spring that he doesn’t need to work his way out of AAA somewhere.

      He is ready to hit in the league now. With the Giants or elsewhere.

  • Matthew

    The San Diego Paper Cuts

    • Andres The Forever Giant

      Drips and doinks, now one good hit has us down 2-0! 🙁

  • The Oracle

    I think Cueto is becoming my favorite Giant.

    • Lunch_Box

      I hope he doesn’t opt out at the end of the season.

      • The Oracle

        The only way he doesnt is if he gets injured or has a bad season.

        • Lunch_Box

          OR he enjoys SF and sees them as legitimately having the best chance at winning another World Series championship.

          • The Oracle

            I’m sure that’s a factor, but he’s not going to leave millions of dollars in guaranteed money on the table because of it.

          • Efrain

            Cueto has been successful at every stop. he will look for long term money and what’s best for his family. If that is in SF so be it.

      • Andres The Forever Giant

        With Cain finally off the books and the stadium debt paid, there’s no reason why the Giants can’t keep Cueto and extend Bum!

        • The Oracle

          The Giants have Bumgarner locked up through 2019. If they don’t extend him before the start of next season, it begins to be in his best interests to hit free agency.

    • earlytimes

      Replacing Pagan??? 🙂

  • Matthew

    Pence still toying with Peter

    • Bapah

      Let’s keep it clean.

  • Matthew

    That was a Willie Mays Hayes slide

    • paul in p.v.

      Lol. Looked like he was running in sand.

      • channelclemente

        Looking back over his shoulder.

  • paul in p.v.

    Stratton getting strafed. Ouch.

  • channelclemente

    That wasn’t a great throw, it was a poorly executed steal from what I saw.

    • paul in p.v.

      Way.

      • channelclemente

        A sale Krukow didn’t make??

  • Michael Scott

    Well, that didn’t work out real well..

  • channelclemente

    Man, that’s a beautiful swing.

  • paul in p.v.

    Chris Strafin’ does not appear to be enthusiastic out there.

  • Matthew

    The “mix” Stratton is in has to do with cats and rivers

    • Matthew

      Maybe even squirrels

    • paul in p.v.

      Somebody go get him. Jeesus.

  • Andres The Forever Giant

    Buster Bashin’, nice to see! 🙂

    • Lunch_Box

      And on a 3-0 count too.

  • paul in p.v.

    Damn, that’s a beautiful little park.

    • DrLefty

      It really is. Not the most modern of the Phoenix-area parks, but it’s got great ambiance and we love going to games there.

  • The Oracle

    Matt Cain has obviously taken Stratton under his wing.

    • paul in p.v.

      You are one funny bastardo.

      • Michael Scott

        Really?

    • Matthew

      🎼Take…these broken wings…🎹

    • Michael Scott

      2 for 1?

  • Matthew

    I thought they outlawed aluminum bats….

  • Appalled7

    Didn’t this game start about 3? Why are they still showing batting practice? Holy cow, talk about desultory.

  • channelclemente

    It’s less ball down, and more a slider that’s gone South.

  • Michael Scott

    Hate to see this. Chris had a shot to make the team. He had to have a real good outing .

    • paul in p.v.

      Bites the big one.

    • totalfan62

      Really disappointed for him, and for us.

    • Efrain

      no he didnt. EVER.

      I know Lefty and other always cal out the Giants for not giving their AAA guys an opportunity, but there is a reason. The team just simply drafted a lot of college low ceiling types for too long. May look good in AAA but that is about it.

      That is why Beede has leap frogged over all these guys as far as being taken seriously by the front office.

  • Appalled7

    Haak, if you are around, I need to do my 3/25 update. If I missed it, so be it. If I didn’t, please swap out Smith and add Suarez. Thank you!

    • Matthew

      What?!?! No Stratton?

      • Appalled7

        He was already on my original list…jk

  • Efrain

    To those always lamenting how Blackburn and Stratton don’t get an opportunity……lolz

    Now you know why.

    • Matthew

      Stratton-O-Matic

  • Matthew

    Nice swing, Wing!

  • crawnik

    Chris Stratton got lit up more in this game than Eric Stratton did in “Animal House”, when he got beat up by Neidermayer’s gang.

  • paul in p.v.

    I wonder if Gorkys will have to testify on the Russian connections.

    • Michael Scott

      Well, this I don’t get. There are guys fighting for a job. Not the time for a pitcher who has no chance.

      • paul in p.v.

        No kidding. Go, #99.

  • Michael Scott

    Listening to Rags, maybe Okert will be the only LHer in the pen.

    • Peter Johnson

      I have Okert and Blach, but I prefer Blach as a starter, but doubt they will not Start the season with Cain as 5th starter .

      • Andres The Forever Giant

        Potentially the fifth starter will only be needed twice in April, so risk is minimized!

        • giantc

          Except Bochy rarely skips the fifth starter.

      • buyselltrade

        Even if Cain, as expected, is the 5th starter; then who is the long relief / spot starter if not Blach?

        Suarez again like 2016?

        Stratton has sunk his chances today.

        Blackburn and Beede seem unlikely but it would be classic if Beede joins the Giants mid-season and has a brilliant abbreviated rookie season like Bumgarner or Lincecum or Marichal.

        • Efrain

          1) I think who starts the season is not that important since it’s not like the starters will be tired the first 3-4 times around. The roster will shuffle throughout the first month depending on injuries and such.

          2) Beede will be up this season, mid-season sounds about right.

    • channelclemente

      I agree.

  • channelclemente

    Melancon looks tuned. What a breaking ball. I’m not sure you can square that up even if you know it’s coming.

  • just peachy.

    Duffy’s problem may not actually be his heel, but his calf/ankle. Poor kid. http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/rays-matt-duffy-current-injury-problems-may-not-be-with-heel/

    I’m choosing to not listen to the game while I pack for tomorrow’s trip. They’ve got to win at least at one of the games I go to, right?….

    • 610nm

      Both!

    • Bapah

      Maybe it’s my own personal bias, but when I hear those locations, I think Achilles attachment. Love that kid, hope he does well.

  • Michael Scott

    Uh, Buster and Mudbug look ready.

    • Peter Johnson

      Yes, playing real intense meaning full 9 inning games in the WBC will do that for you .

  • Andres The Forever Giant

    Craw crushin’ a lefty, again! 🙂

    • Peter Johnson

      I cracked up in the WBC when a Manger brought in a lefty to face him, Managers are so use to playing the Lefty vs Lefty matchup game, they never do homework, Crawford has hit better vs Lefties his last 3 full seasons.

      • Keep’n It Real

        Was that in the final game? I was going back and forth from radio to TV; which is why I’m asking the question. I do know…in the final game…Crawford was batting with the bases loaded; where he’s been successful in the past. If the opposing manager brought in the lefty for that AB, then he got what he deserved.

        • Peter Johnson

          Yes, the 2 run single .

      • Matthew

        Was right there with you… it’s like they didn’t scout at all

    • paul in p.v.

      Whoa, you guys are 20 mins. ahead of me down here in old Mexico. That was a whopper.

  • paul in p.v.

    Good God, Georgie’s got a slow slider that flummoxed the Pads.

  • Matthew

    For those listening close: Krukow is giving a window into the reality – the roster is basically set but for one or two spits at most. “Gorky is on the team”, ” Hill, Kelby and Marrero are vying for 2 spots” “Stratton is a minor leaguer so this start meant nothing”.

    I think WE -inclusive “we” – overthink and believe each of these performances carry tons of weight. I tend to think they have kinda kniwn ( or have EXACTLY known) who is in and who is out

    • Keep’n It Real

      Kelby in Sac. Sucks to have options left.

      • Peter Johnson

        No , if Nunez goes on DL .

        • Keep’n It Real

          true

    • Peter Johnson

      I guess he is assuming Nunez will be ok to start the season, if not 3 players for 3 positions, so all 3 of them will make the team .

    • The Oracle

      Well, I wouldn’t count out Stratton then, since Gorkys is a minor leaguer and he’s apparently on the team.

      • Matthew

        Stratton has PTSD after today

  • Matthew

    Buster is a very mature young man

    • Peter Johnson

      That’s why he married an older women, I think his wife was a grade ahead of him in high school .

      • Matthew

        So did I… we ain’t no dummies ( mines only 4 weeks older)

      • totalfan62

        No, they were in the same home room as (I think) high school freshmen.

  • Matthew

    Kontos trying to win over the Doctor

    • Bapah

      Nice interview

  • Brownie

    Looks like Kontos has been hitting the weights. While I’m not his biggest fan, I hope that he does well for the Giants.

    • Michael Scott

      How are you, Brownie? Nice to see you.

      • Brownie

        I’m well man. How are you doing and health wise? I’ll be posting more once the season starts.

        • Michael Scott

          As I told the other folks, this February marked 5 years without a tumor recurrence. My Oncologist at UCSF said that she considers me cured. The “cure” left me quite a few problems, but it beats the alternative.

          • Brownie

            That’s good to hear.

  • Appalled7

    We’ll darn, looks like the Gs found some pitches tucked away in a back cupboard somewhere. And a few hitters found some swings. Now we have ourselves a ball game.

    • Brownie

      Simmer down, it’s just ST.

      • Appalled7

        Well as entertainment goes, the second half of this game has certainly been better than the first.

        • Brownie

          Can’t argue with you on that point.

          • Andres The Forever Giant

            The offense has been down for the most part this spring, so I’d like to see them come back and get a game like this!

          • Brownie

            Haven’t really been following ST. The wind has definitely helped the bats today.

          • Andres The Forever Giant

            Definitely, so seeing many games with paltry results, even with the favorable AZ elements, was worrying me. You want to see the team gel in all parts of the game during the last week of ST going into the new season, so I hope that’s what we get!

  • Andres The Forever Giant

    Gorkys will pay the kangaroo court big time for making the last out at third!

  • Appalled7

    Management: Congratulations, Hwang. Now hustle yourself on up to Sacramento. 🙁

  • Matthew

    Haven’t seen that much of the guy, but Hwang looks like he’s made for a DH role

    • totalfan62

      Maybe, but I like this guy’s bat.

    • Lunch_Box

      I thought his defense at third base was decent.

  • channelclemente

    Where is Rameriz in the pitcher lifeboat ?

    • Michael Scott

      Neil is locking up a spot. There are only 1 or 2 left. Probably just 1.

      • channelclemente

        he has a clue, it seems.

    • Peter Johnson

      On the team , as a former Cubs fan you should know about him .

      • channelclemente

        Why? That was 8-9 years ago.

        • Michael Scott

          You should know by now, Peter knows everything. The rest of us are mere mortals.

          • Peter Johnson

            Yeah , I am a Baseball fan with a great memory, I was one of those students in class, that could , memorize the answers a min before a quiz and get a 100% on the quiz, no homework are studying for me .

          • channelclemente

            The putz??

  • Matthew

    Stay on the bag, sardine breath

  • Appalled7

    Speaking of entertaining.

  • Brownie

    Grand Salami please!!

    • Matthew

      Mini bologna works, too

      • Brownie

        It’s kimchi for him

        • Lunch_Box

          I heard he doesn’t like kimchi.

  • Appalled7

    DO NOT SWING

  • Appalled7

    Or swing and be a hero. That works too. But he got lucky.

  • Jacob Singer

    Walkoff bloop!

    • channelclemente

      I like Hwang!

  • Andres The Forever Giant

    Hearing Tony’s dulcet tones always makes my day! 🙂

  • buyselltrade

    Nice come back game.

    Clutch Hwang!

    • Michael Scott

      Sort of a humpback but they all count.

      • buyselltrade

        We are like-minded in that “they all count”.

        I like when the Giants win, especially when the game appears lost.

        A bloop can be as fine as a line drive when a game is won rather than lost.

        • Michael Scott

          Be careful, Johnny Dickshot says they don’t count.

      • thefarnz

        So when did all Spring Training games count??

        • Michael Scott

          It counts as a hit, pal.

          • thefarnz

            On social media?
            Its Spring Training

          • Michael Scott

            So they got 0 hits today.
            We some fun when I paired some folks here with colorful baseball player names. I saved one for a deserving recipient. Hello, Johnny Dickshot.

          • channelclemente

            Wince.

          • Michael Scott

            Why?

          • Michael Scott

            I can tell that you are still upset at me. I’m sorry that I killed your dog. It was a semi-accident.

          • thefarnz

            I’m a cat person. Never had a dog. Has the season started yet?

          • Michael Scott

            Uh, maybe you should ask the neighbors if one of them is missing a dog.

          • thefarnz

            I don’t talk with the neighbors. They’re weird…seriously, they’re weird.

    • totalfan62

      Nice game to build on, after a rather desultory pre-season.

      One week from tomorrow we play for real. Can’t Wait!

    • Yes

  • Keep’n It Real

    Every-body Hwang Chung To-night

  • totalfan62

    I’m watching tonight’s game on MLB via tape delay. It weird but cool to know what’s coming.

  • DrLefty

    Hubbs arrived in Seattle this morning, and we were at a movie for the first part of the game. The Giants were losing 7-5 when I started watching. Taking full credit for the win.

    • totalfan62

      Attababe.

  • channelclemente
  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    From the box score, seems like Osich is back in the saddle and locking himself into the pen.
    Gorkys getting back on board too. Can Hwang be denied? I also read you folks talking about N. Ramirez. Does he have good stuff and is he going to sneak in?

    • channelclemente

      Good to average, but he hits his spots. Of course, I’ve seen him pitch one inning of baseball this year against the mighty Padres, so there is that.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        It gets interesting the closer we get to opening day. A week and change to go.

    • Peter Johnson

      1.44 Era as a rookie in 2014 over 50 games pitched .

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        He has strong K rates. He was the 44th overall pick in 2007 draft. Must have some talent.

      • channelclemente

        24 innings last year with an ERA of 6 and FIP of greater than 7.

        • Peter Johnson

          Might want to check his injury history .

          • channelclemente

            He pitched. In any case, his past probably means zilch. He’ll make or get cut from the Giants on what he’s showed Righetti and Gardiner.

          • Michael Scott

            He’s had a great spring. That may not count for the guys who already have a spot locked up, but it sure as hell does for those scrambling to make it.

    • Matthew

      My eyes and gut ( been wrong before):

      Osich looked good and has stuff, but only Raggs/Melon can answer if they trust him.

      Gorkys had a good day, and will make the team because the OF defense is too weak with out his presence.

      Hwang is having a great time, and looks comfortable in the box. He looks beyond shaky with a glove on his hand.

      Ramirez looks good. Not sure if there is room. That’s up to the Cain decision

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Melancon, Law, Strickland, Okert, Osich, Kontos, Long Man (Blach or Suarez or Cain?)

        So I guess there’s really no room at The Inn for Gear-Inn or Ramirez.

        Got it, gracias.

        • Peter Johnson

          The word from Raggs on the telecast might be only 1 Lefty in the pen

          • channelclemente

            That’s not what he said at all.

        • Peter Johnson

          Besides Melancon , Mr. Ramirez has had the best spring in the pen, Okert as well, your protesting might have distracted you from scouting the Giants pen .

  • channelclemente

    Gonzaga into the final four for the first time.

  • HaakAway

    Keep checking in.
    We are on the Road from Scottsdale to Yucca Valley; ETA 11:00 PM. There I will have wifi and steal/document all your great predictions.

    • buyselltrade

      I am so wishy-washy and want to change something to counter to what I have been typing at TWG.

      Drop Mazzero and add Gorkys Hernandez,

      The Giants need more speed and CF on their bench.

      • HaakAway

        Okay … it has turned very interesting for us all.

        • buyselltrade

          I see that Nunez is announced as DH for today’s game.

          If Nunez starts the season on the active roster, many of us will have erred in prediction.

          Baseball is often a surprise!

          Eager for opening day!!

    • Bapah

      New MyGuy™
      Bum, Cueto, Moore, Shark, Cain (5)
      Strickland, Melancon, Okert, Law, Kontos, Ramirez, Gearrin, Osich (8)
      Span, Pence,, Parker, Gorkys (4)
      Belt, Panik, Crawford, Gillaspie, KT, Hill (6)
      Hundly, Buster, (2)

      Sure hope Nuñez goes on DL

      • Peter Johnson

        13 pitchers, no way .

      • Bapah

        Actually, I don’t hope Nuñez goes on DL and I’ll Sub him for Ramirez, but that screws up KT’s likelihood of making it.

      • 610nm

        13 pitchers, you know your Bochy.

      • HaakAway

        Got you in; I think my system will handle it as we are up to 30 TWG’ers in on this now. I do not mind it at all.

        • Bapah

          Am I in with Nuñez or did you keep it the way it originally entered?

          • HaakAway

            Nada Nunez … Is that right?

          • Bapah

            Nuñez is in, Osich is out. I still feel 13 pitchers is not too far off, but I’ll go with 12. I had originally thought no to Ramirez, but think Osich goes down.

          • HaakAway

            Okay … I hope The Nunez Shoulder holds up. I guess if he can hit then he can throw a ball across the diamond. Another one I might be wrong about.

    • Bapah

      I don’t envy the work you have ahead. I almost didn’t do this.

  • Matthew

    Long article on ESPN that explains why Buster is the best defensive catcher in baseball. I’m on my I Pad and my Copy functionality is weak on this…so perhaps one of you can post it for everyone …it’s great Giants Porn

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    Baggs feed was informative. Hwang = Barney Nugent! Kontos looking real good. Tyler Beede going to start the exhibition finale at the Colosseum.

  • channelclemente

    Oregon leading KU by 10-11 in the second half, early.

  • channelclemente

    For all you old coffee drinkers who drop a stitch from time to time, may I recommend …

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170316093412.htm

    • Bapah

      Makes me gag. Childhood trauma.

  • Efrain
  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    Sounds like Barney Nugent Award Winner, Hwang, will be headed to AAA, Sacramento, without skipping town to some other organization. There was some confusion, but I always understood that he would put in some time in AAA before making his debut in SF.

    • Michael Scott

      Has that been announced yet ?

      • paul in p.v.
        • Lunch_Box

          Hope Bochy surprises Pavlovic and Hwang does get a spot on the Opening Day roster.

          If he does get sent to AAA, I hope it’s because the team wants him to get more at bats with MLB/MiB pitching. Also to become a versatile defender who can also play LF should Parker/Williamson or whomever falters or injury.

    • Matthew

      Alex seems to think he’s a lock for Sacto

  • Matthew

    The good news is that the national sports media us certainly overlooking the Giants. SI’s predictions put Chicago at 1, LA at 2, Washington at 3, NY at 4, SF at 5. I’m fine with that…and I think the only reason those two NL East teams can be in those spots is because of Atlanta and Philly.

    Samardzija us my key. If he’s good, the Giants roll

    • Cain is my key. If he’s not good, Blach gets the #5 spot. Roll on.

    • 2holehitting

      I think Matt Moore might be the key. He did have TJ surgery 2 years ago and had a 4+ ERA for the Giants and a 4+ERA for TB. He averaged less than 6 innings a game for both teams last year and has never averaged 6 innings plus in any season. He has had a poor spring as well with a mid 5 ERA.

      Looking at the rotation they want 3 big starters. So either Cain Smardjzija or Moore need to be that third man. The 4th needs to be average or above average and the 5th starter needs to be average at best for the Gmen to make a run at the Dodgers.

      • totalfan62

        Moore will be fine. He will he a solid #3 behind Bum and Cueto.

      • Matthew

        Moore is one of the best “#3” in the league, and I don’t worry about him. If Samardzija is good at the #4, the Giants will have the best starting staff in the league…and, yes, that includes the Cubs trotting out Lackey

        • 2holehitting

          7 and 6 with a 4.08 RA is one of the best?

      • DrLefty

        Moore pitched 198 innings in the regular season, so I’m not sure how your math holds up. With his postseason start, he was over 200 IP. That’s excellent durability for a first year post-TJ.

        Bum-Cueto is a better 1-2 than Kershaw-Hill. Obviously Kershaw’s better than anyone, but he still only pitches once every five days, and as for Hill?–Not a believer, at his age and with his injury history.

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      I think the way to look at rankings/predictions is to segregate the clubs according to tiers. The Cubs represent the top tier in the NL, they are a cut above the next tier and everyone else in terms of talent on the roster and in the organization. The next tier includes the Giants along with the Dodgers and Nationals, and if their pitching is healthy, the Mets. After that comes teams that are or could be Wild Card contenders, and still could make a run at their respective divisions: Cardinals, Pirates, Rockies, and maybe the Diamondbacks. Finally, everyone else: Padres, Brewers, Reds, Braves, Marlins, & Phillies.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        ps – my key is the health of the Giants “4 horseman” : Bumgarner, Posey, Crawford, and Cueto. If they ride unimpeded by injury, the Giants will claim many victories on field of battle.

      • DrLefty

        It will be interesting to see how the Cubs hold up this year. How much will they miss Dexter Fowler? Will a Wade Davis-led bullpen equal a Chapman-led bullpen? Will Jason Heyward be any better? What about the back end of that rotation, and which version of Arrieta will show up this season?

        They’re obviously the team to beat with that great lineup and Lester, Hendricks, and Arrieta anchoring their rotation, but I don’t think it’s a slam dunk that they’ll be as good as they were last year.

        • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

          the depth of quality arms in their pen impressive. Should Davis succumb to a barking elbow, they have guys with closing experience and/or closing stuff behind him: Uehara, Rondon, Edwards Jr., Strop.

        • Matthew

          Agreed…I do think they will destroy the Central…I looked at the rosters of the other 4 teams….weak.

  • Cold brewed Sumatra
    French toast

    Blach gets “stretched out” today

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      Costco House Blend – roasted by Starbucks
      Donuts left over from a Model A Club event hosted by In-Laws in Exeter yesterday.

      Ruggiano stakes claim to roster with big day at plate.

      Good morning.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.
        • Matthew

          My dad remodeled one when I was a kid…a rumble seat ride in the spring…nothing like it

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Wife’s step-father has been buidling, remodeling them since he was in high school. He has real nice shop in Exeter with a couple of finished cars, an in progress car, and parts galore on walls and shelves. The Model A Club isn’t getting any younger. Hard to pass this passion on to younger generation who are more inclined to the muscle cars or to cut up the body of Model A to build a hot rod.

          • Matthew

            I remember those big Whitney’s ( I think?) parts catalogs…Dad went original on his as he should. Those oddball cut ups are blasphemy.

            We also had a ’57 Chevy in original form, and my favorite was his white ’65 Catalina 4-speed.

            Dad was a car lover.

          • totalfan62

            The 1957 Chevy. My all-time favorite car.

          • Bapah

            Mine, as well. Loved the without the bar between front and back seat.

          • paul in p.v.

            I had a ’58 Nomad wagon. It was sweet.

      • Exeter home of JD4SF

        • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

          I’ve probably bumped into her without even knowing it.

          Is dgg at the cabin or have you heard from her?

          • Bapah

            She quit. Erased all/most posts.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Am familiar with that process. Did one event tip the scale?

          • Bapah

            Apparently so. Perhaps, not an event, but certain poster(s).

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            thanks for the scoop. she was well versed with the block button, but it is understandable.
            it’s just nice to escape to reading/thinking/writing about baseball than the other things going on 24/7. I don’t know how long “end times” last, but I know we are within them. Things fall apart.

          • 610nm

            Somehow we have to get dgg back on the roster. A smart and valuable commenter.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Personally, I found the urge to communicate, read, write, learn new things, and to B.S. to be irresistible; an addiction difficult to deter.

          • paul in p.v.

            “Turning and turning in the widening gyre
            The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
            Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
            Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
            The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
            The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
            The best lack all conviction, while the worst
            Are full of passionate intensity.”

            (Yeats, The Second Coming)

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            that sounds very familiar. gyre is a nice word of the day play.

          • paul in p.v.

            He wrote it during WW I: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/43290

            It’s fairly amazing.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            saw this guy on a show recently…

            http://timothysnyder.org/

          • paul in p.v.

            Yes he is very relevant these days.

          • totalfan62

            I’m sure someone has her contact info. Please encourage her to come back.

          • The Oracle

            How much time do you give us?

          • PerSpeier35

            I don’t get that. Dgg said she blocked E, she could have easily block O or whoever else she was having issues with. It’s just anonymous internet blather, can’t imagine why she took it so seriously. She’s a Giants fan, the season is almost here, I wish she would have stuck it out.

          • paul in p.v.

            Deeg did not strike me as one who suffers fools gladly.

          • The Oracle

            From her writings, I believe she’s the kind of person that doesn’t have much of a sense of humor and takes offense easily. Also the kind of person that has no problem being critical of others, but really doesn’t enjoy being on the receiving end. Thats not a very good makeup for blog commenting.

          • Bapah

            And, typically, that’s a load of crap. What an ass.

          • Matthew

            She was pretty impatient on a few of my pushbacks, but mine were gentle. I really didn’t see any that were harsh from anyone.

          • that happens when on cancels their disqus

          • totalfan62

            What!? I hope that’s not true. She’s a great part of our community.

      • buyselltrade

        When Starbucks was a start up company in Seattle, Starbucks coffee was roasted by Peets.

        I’m drinking Peets dark French roast purchased at Costco.

        • DrLefty

          I’m in Seattle as we speak. My goodness, there’s a Starbucks every five feet. Even more than in SF, and that’s saying something.

          • Matthew

            Well…it’s where they are headquartered, so there’s that. They do most of their in-store product testing and flavor launches up there…so enjoy your Bubblegum Latte’ with extra syrup!

          • DrLefty

            Ugggghhh. I’m a straight latte, no syrup girl. I can’t tolerate even the thought of anything sweet in the a.m. But gimme that extra espresso shot. I like my coffee strong.

        • paul in p.v.

          The founders learned their trade from Alfred Peet in Beserkely.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Peet

          • buyselltrade

            Yep

            There is a book about the early years of Starbucks “Pour Your Heart Into It”.

            I moved to Berkeley in December 1973 for Cal and several blocks away was the Peets on Walnut and Cedar and folks would line up to buy the daily coffee by the cup and I learned of the finer things in life.

          • paul in p.v.

            Me too – Cal, ’80/’85! The Roma on Bancroft had some kickass café too.

          • buyselltrade

            Cal 79 and 87

            I can’t recall the names of favorite coffee shops except Roma and Med on Telegraph. Spent more / regular times at a coffee shop next to the Hearst parking structure and another on Euclid but the names are no longer in my mind.

          • paul in p.v.

            Oh gawd I hope you didn’t have to get an mba too. ;o)

          • buyselltrade

            lol we may have touched on this in another season.

  • Bapah

    Did anybody pick Rollins to make the team?

    • 610nm

      Footy and Clutch thought he’d make it (or at least hoped so). I think, since Rollins’ invite was BEFORE they landed Hwang, the Giants wanted to be nice about making sure he had a good trial.

      • DrLefty

        Also, with Craw gone at the WBC, didn’t hurt to have an extra body to play SS in the Cactus League games.

        • 610nm

          I saw several times mentions that Rollins was helping in the teaching of the other IFs, so he was probably a pretty good guy to have around.

          • paul in p.v.

            Cool. DFA him, and hire him as a bench coach.

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      I may have, over a month ago. What of it?

      • Bapah

        Draw!

      • Peter Johnson

        For Protest reasons, just like Clutch, not for baseball reasons that’s for sure .

        • Again not accurate

          • Peter Johnson

            What baseball reasons then ?

        • The word protest does not fit this topic

      • DrLefty

        Well, I (cynically) picked David Hernandez, and he got cut even before the March 25 list deadline, so we all have our skeletons.

        • Peter Johnson

          Rollins was never picked for Baseball reasons, by some blog members it was all about local hero .

          • Matthew

            We got one of those in Crawford…that’s what I say

          • DrLefty

            That local hero stuff is tired. He wasn’t even a Giants fan! Some here even root for Dodger players because they’re from the Bay Area. Not this gal.

          • Kent went to CAL

          • DrLefty

            And I like him because he was a great Giant, not because of where he went to college. I like Crawford because he’s a great Giants, and in spite of where he went to college. 🙂

          • Bapah

            Boo
            Cookie, Cookie, Uptown Cookie.
            Yay Cookie.

          • DrLefty

            Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

          • The Oracle

            What’s Sabean’s phone number again?

          • Dear Oracle The:
            Your shift must be over? Shoulda taken notes last time
            415978xxxx

          • DBakes from Sacto. Utley lives in SF.

          • That is not accurate

          • Peter Johnson

            You are lying to yourself if you picked him for Baseball reasons , just can not except that he is long past his prime .

          • I never lie to myself Peeg

          • totalfan62

            *accept*…watch that spell check, PJ! 😊

          • Matthew

            He’s our very own Ralph Kiner

    • Y E S

      • Matthew

        So, my question to you, and anyone supporting his making the 25: In whose place?

        I just don’t see any unique skills -physical, emotional, mental – that aren’t redundant.

    • buyselltrade

      I did in initial conjuration but switched out later.

      Why? Thought Rollins was favored by front office and manager.

      There does not appear to be much left in terms of mlb skills.

  • 610nm

    Let’s see how this table looks (hits/at bat this spring),
    Parker 13/49 and 12 RBI
    Williamson 11/34 and 3 (presumably on DL)
    Span 10/44 and 3
    Pence 6/44 and 3
    Gorkys H. 7/44 and 4
    Ruggiano 8/35 and 4

    Nunez 8/34 and 1 (presumably on DL)
    Gillaspie 10/30 and 8 RBI
    Hwang 12/39 and 11
    Marrero 14/51 and 11
    Tomlinson 11/40 and 5
    Hill 9/43 and 3
    Beckham 7/36 and 2
    Rollins 3/36 and 2

    Hundley 12/37 and 8 RBI
    Trevor B. 8/24 and 2
    Federowicz 8/26 and 2

    I kept only Gorkys in Haak’s competition as a true outfielder, and both Hwang and Marrero. Surely KT has to get the nod over Aaron Hill, but it is not a huge margin by the stats. Much more so in terms of positional flexibility and age, no? If Hwang goes to Sacramento, I want to hear the team saying stuff like “he needs 6 weeks of OF every day OF experience before coming back” or something very similar to that.

    • DrLefty

      Hill has really fallen off in the latter weeks of camp. Is it worth making a 40-man spot for him when you already have Kelby available? To me the only reason to do that would be if he can replicate his bench stats last year (hit around .260 with 10 HRs in part-time play). If he can’t, Kelby’s probably more valuable offensively and equivalent and maybe better defensively. And he’s on the 40.

      • 610nm

        KT=27 years old in June, Hill=35 this month. ’nuff said?
        I do like that we have good catching depth at AAA this season.

      • paul in p.v.

        NO! NUNCA!! NIENTE!!!

        • DrLefty

          Can you say it a little louder, Paul? I didn’t quite get that. 🙂

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      Aside from the power display, the other impressive aspect of Parker’s spring is the 9 walks. He’s always demonstrated the ability to draw walks and maintain a high OBP in spite of low averages. He is one of those 3 true outcomes players : K, BB, HR – with occasional double and single sprinkled in .

      • 610nm

        To show you how much attention you should pay to me, my pre-spring 25man entry kept both Ruggiano and Gorkys, with a DFA handed to Parker. So I’m surprised as well as delighted with how “jazzy” his spring has been.

        • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

          i believe I had Ruggiano and Gorkys on the team in addiiton to Rollins. Osich instead of Okert, Blach, Tomlinson, and Mac in AAA.

    • 22’sSweetSwing

      I am going to have fun calling SFG management dufusi if they try to send Hwang down and he signs elsewhere.

    • Michael Scott

      Why do you presume that Nunez will be on the DL ?

      • DrLefty

        Two cortisone shots in his throwing shoulder less than two weeks before Opening Day.

        • Michael Scott

          I know about the cortisone shots .But unless the reports are wrong, he’s DHing today., I doubt that they would be doing that if the DL was a sure thing.

  • Matthew

    Its pretty clear that sports, but especially the NFL, are not about fans , but money.

    Lucifer Goodell has let Oakland know that their latest proposal doesn’t meet his arbitrary target. The Raiders are moving. Because money.

    I’m not a Raiders fan, but they are “Oakland”. The idea of them moving to Las Vegas is a blatant reminder of what engine drives professional sports

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      I have a very special gift for you. One which you may have been treated to before.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_pgcapIisc

      • Matthew

        Thanks. I never thought the supposed link was anything more than Overreaching Stoner Correlation Syndrome

    • buyselltrade

      The Raiders died for me when they went to LA.

      I was always a 49er fan (went to games in early 1960s at Kezar as a Christopher Milk Clubs kid) but Dad was a Raiders fan. I was also a Raiders fan but mirrored Dad in I favored the 49ers over the Raiders.

      I went to about 10 Raider games at Frank Youell Field in the 1963 and 1964 seasons as my Dad had season tickets and was a fan of the Raiders and Niners but Raiders first until he passed on in 1996.

      I haven’t been a 49er fan now for about 10 years now and didn’t even watch a single pro football game in the past year.

      I went to a Warriors game circa 1960 at the Cow Palace but never became a Warriors fan until 1966 and that has endured.

      I went to my first Giants game in 1959 and went to at least one game every season through 2003 and have not been to the SF Bay Area nor a Giants game since.

    • DrLefty

      Being here in Seattle–and driving past the NFL and MLB stadiums in from the airport–reminds me of what a bummer it was that these folks lost the Sonics. This is a great town. They should have an NBA team.

      Anyway, this is to say it’s sad when a fanbase loses their team.

      • Matthew

        Did you see the pretty Amazon glass high rise and orbs where my Princess works? Give her a wave ( well…tomorrow. She’s chillin this morning at home)

        • DrLefty

          We just got back from a wine-tasting tour, and yes, our driver pointed out where Amazon is and the Gates Foundation building. We also saw the buildings used for exteriors in “Grey’s Anatomy.”

          Oh, and bought some wine. We’re taking the train home tomorrow.

          • Matthew

            Did you hit Woodinville? Chateau is gorgeous…another fantabulous one is Charles Smith by the airport…

            Hope you enjoyed!!

          • DrLefty
          • Matthew

            ATTA BABE!!!!!!!!!

            Love that place….love

          • DrLefty

            It really is a terrific city. I like Portland, too (I was there last week), but Seattle is beautiful. We’ve been talking all weekend about how we’d like to come back when the weather’s a bit warmer and really enjoy it.

            Here are some of the places I ate this week:
            Mistral Kitchen
            Tap House Grill
            Bluefin Seafood
            Brooklyn Seafood, Oyster, and Steak House

            Stayed the first four nights at the Sheraton Seattle (by the Convention Center) and the last two at the Kimpton Monaco (Fourth Street near University). Both really nice.

            Tomorrow morning we board the Amtrak Coast Starlight for a scenic ride home. (We booked a sleeper because we’re too old to ride sitting up for 22 hours).

  • crawnik

    Guys who are not playing golf: Nunez DH, Rollins 2B, Belt 1B, Parker RF, Marrero LF, Gillaspie 3B, Ruggiano CF, Fed-X C, Kelby SS, Blach SP.

    Lineup vs. ChiSox today.

    • 610nm

      Nunez healthy enough to hit!

  • HaakAway

    All your 25-Man are in by now so I will be confirming those today as I get resettled at home. Thanks for your patience that I was out of contact most of this last four days.

    • Matthew

      Hope you had a Hunter S. Thompson level road trip

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    If Tomlinson could learn to play the OF enough to not be a liability, that would be such a tremendous asset to the bench. Imagine if Span played most every day and got spelled by Ruggiano or Tomlinson. Either of those two would just have to not embarrass self in CF and it could spell Span, work out just fine, and open up another roster spot in favor of a 5th outfielder like Hernandez.

    I wonder what is holding back Tomlinson. Speed and range, check. Good enough arm, check.

    First step ?

    Tracking and routing ?

    • Matthew

      Our favorite and tremendously consistent Spanologist!

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Wasn’t that a question about Tomlinson? I thought you might have some thoughts on the infielder to outfielder conversion – especially to CF.

        • Matthew

          The thing that is holding KT back might be Bochy’s nerves

    • DrLefty

      What makes you think something is holding him back? He played LF twice for the Giants last year and very memorably gunned a guy out at the plate on a strike. I just don’t think they’ve had him play there much.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        How many innings has he played the outfield this spring? Center?

        • Matthew

          Maybe…maybe they are totally cool with it already and we’re trying to see what Hwang brought? Dunno

        • DrLefty

          He played LF in a minor league game a couple days ago. I think that’s it. But they’ve had so many guys in camp tripping over each other. I think they know KT can play LF in a pinch. They were trying to get looks at guys like Marrero and Hill and Hwang and Morse.

    • Michael Scott

      I don’t get why a 5th “true” OFer is needed.

      • Peter Johnson

        Two of your starting Outfielders , are coming off injury affected seasons and are not getting any younger, the Manager has said they will get more rest this year. The opening day LF has very bad splits vs Left handed Pitching, they need 5 Outfielders !

        • Michael Scott

          KT, Belt, and either Hwang or Marrero can play the OF. So the 3 starters and either Gorkys or Ruggiano is enough. They might not go that way, but it makes perfect sense. Now don’t go on and on and on about this, as you usually do.

          • Efrain

            you don’t have any stats that say that KT, Belt, Marrero, or Hwang can handle the OF more so than MAYBE a game hear and there out of need.

            As Peter said, two of our main OF are older and the chances they get hurt are pretty high at some point this season. For the Giants is key, c’mon you know this, no one should spell this out for you.

            The Giants need another true OF, which right now mean Gorkys should earn a spot for defense alone. AND THIS TEAM WILL ADD another OF via trade this season, you can take that to the bank.

    • Efrain

      You just can’t make any player an outfielder, geesh. Baeabl just does not work like that.

      Everyone sees what the Reds did with Duvall, and sure that worked but that’s an anomaly.

      • 610nm

        babble?

        • PerSpeier35

          Baseball babble?

      • channelclemente

        TO not going to like you disrespecting his ‘ace’.

  • Matthew

    HaakAway inspired MyGuess potential awards

    Player Most Likely To Explode-Brandon Belt
    Player That Needs To Prove He’s Still Got It (non-Cain Division)- Hunter Pence
    Player That Doesn’t Have It But Can Be Tremendous Incremental Help – Denard Span
    Starting Pitcher That Needs To Prove He’s Still Got It (non Cain Division) – Jeff Samardzijaaaa
    Reliever That Needs To Prove Mental Maturity – Hunter Strickland
    Cast Of The Incredibles – Buster Posey, Brandon Crawford, Madison Bumgarner, Johnny Cueto, Mark Melancon
    Supporting Cast Of The Incredibles – Joe Panik, Eduardo Nunez, Conor Gillapie, George Kontos, Matt Moore
    Youth Choir – Jarrett Parker, Kelby Tomlinson, Steve Okert, Derek Law, Ty Blach
    Crazy Blog Reaction Pitcher Of The Year – Josh Osich
    The Who Cares Roadies Of The Year – Nick Hundley, Gorkys Hernandez
    The Get Well Card Late Contributor Team – Mac Williamson, Michael Morse
    The I Have No Idea But I Have A Pretty Good Idea Uh Oh Player -Matt Cain

    • Efrain

      lol Haak thought Duffy was better than Bryant.

      Most likely to expode – Belt??!! You cray Matthew!

  • HaakAway

    Post-My25ManGuy™ final check: Here is what I currently have.
    New entries[welcome in] … lunchbox, CC, earlytimes, JStreet, RobDeer
    Updated: 610, App7, Bapah, BST, Craw, Ef, giantc, DrL, Matt, Moooooooose, PJ, Skwz, stevek, totalFan
    No Update: Anti-L, dgg, gFrog, Chef, JohnMyHill, Noce, PS35 [If you sent me one remind me of when you sent it so I can find it.]

    • buyselltrade

      I don’t see myself listed but you accepted my entry and later update (in this thread).

      • HaakAway

        You are “BST” in my shorthand. I hope it does not mean something bad?

        • buyselltrade

          oops missed that

  • Matthew

    Team Award Nominees:

    Media Priapism -Legends Division : Los Angeles Dodgers, Boston Red Sox
    Media Call Your Doctor If It Last Four Or More Hours – Newcomers Division – Chicago Cubs, New York Mets
    Quiet Killers – San Francisco Giants, Cleveland Indians, Texas Rangers
    Still Overrated After All These Years – Washington Nationals, Kansas City Royals
    Video Montage In Remembrance Of When They We’re Alive – New York Yankees, St. Louis Cardinals
    Look Out Because They May Surprise – Seattle Mariners, Colorado Rockies
    Unfair To Awesome Superstars – Cincinnati Reds, Arizona Diamondbacks
    Nice Guys Finish Not First – Pittsburgh Pirates, Houston Astros
    WGAF Top Hits Nobody Cares – the rest

    • The Oracle

      Do you really think the Giants should be rated ahead of the Dodgers or Cubs?

      • Matthew

        You need to attend a Dr. Lefty course in “Interpreting Nuanced Messages Via Linguistics”

        • The Oracle

          It’s not that nuanced.

          • Matthew

            My recipe called for sugar. Once again, you used salt

          • The Oracle

            Baseball media bias involves the Yankees and Red Sox. The Cubs are a hot topic only because they have so many great, young players and now are the defending champs. The Dodgers have the same west coast disadvantage the Giants have.

          • Matthew

            Thank you so much for correcting my attempt at humor.

          • The Oracle

            It’s a common theme here to complain about the coverage the Cubs get, and not usually in a humorous way. I think the coverage they get is understandable.

          • Matthew

            Missing The Point – Lifetime Acheivement Award: The Oracle

          • The Oracle

            What’s the highly nuanced point I’m missing? Please use small, simple words so that I have at least some chance of understanding.

          • channelclemente

            TO, honestly, who has the patience.

          • Matthew

            You
            Can
            Be
            A
            Humorless*
            Antagonist*

            (* – if these words go beyond your boundaries, please consult professionals)

  • crawnik

    From Mariners camp:

    RHP Chris Heston has been optioned to AAA Tacoma. RHP Cody Martin and RHP Jean Machi have been re-assigned to Minor League camp.

    • Michael Scott

      Feel bad for Chris and Jean. Heston may not have anything left but Machi had a good spring, it was probably a numbers game. Even at 35 YO, he might have value as a roogy.

    • 12xu

      The Giants traded Heston last Dec. to the Mariners for a player to be named later.. who was the player to be named later?

  • Matthew

    Someone help: where the hell is Gabon?

    • channelclemente

      West Africa. Near Cameroon, as I recall.

      • 12xu

        You are correct, sir:
        Gabon (/ɡəˈbɒn/; French pronunciation: ​[ɡabɔ̃]), officially the Gabonese Republic (French: République gabonaise), is a sovereign state on the west coast of Central Africa. Located on the equator, Gabon is bordered by Equatorial Guinea to the northwest, Cameroon to the north, the Republic of the Congo on the east and south, and the Gulf of Guinea to the west. It has an area of nearly 270,000 square kilometres (100,000 sq mi) and its population is estimated at 1.5 million people. Its capital and largest city is Libreville.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabon

        • channelclemente

          LOL. Too many years chasing infectious disease samples for diagnostic test validation.

      • Matthew

        Gracias

  • The Oracle

    There’s been a lot of talk about the players who need to step it up for the team to succeed. Bochy also needs to have a much better year. This should’ve been playing the background as he blew the 9th inning against the Cubs:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N3MHeNt6Yjs

    • Malloy like Chief Eddie said: The players failed to execute their respective tasks. Wotus Rags Gardy Muelens make the same choices Bochy did

      • The Oracle

        Where do you get this idea that the person in charge doesn’t bear ultimate responsibility for the choices they make, no matter what advise they received? In fact, one of the most disturbing parts of Bochy’s 2016 performance came near the end of the season, when he attempted to shift the blame for a boneheaded decision to his coaches. It was both inaccurate and cowardly, and the opposite of what a true leader does.

        • channelclemente

          It’s puzzling how such an authoritarian as you, seems to hate authority. Middle management??

          • Peter Johnson

            Bochy fanboy shutup !

          • Matthew

            Don’t stutter

          • channelclemente

            Hand jazz moment

        • Matthew

          Why do you feel the need to share your tough-shift-hangover with everyone around you? Go run a few miles or vape some weed before you come visit.

          • Peter Johnson

            Bochy Fanboy, shutup !

          • Matthew

            …and the pigeon flies by to drop good cheer.

            ( I personally said nothing about Bochy, Mensa)

          • Peter Johnson

            Someone questions Bochy , and all the old timers ,go all bananas, the same 4 or 5 of you all the time !

          • Matthew

            Take a breath. TO is being a jerk today …

          • The Oracle

            People, people, people…these are just opinions. Why the name calling?

          • Michael Scott

            I just suggested that it’s time to let it go. Try it.

          • Peter Johnson

            I do not trust Bochy, so it is not time to let it go, until he goes !

          • Michael Scott

            You are now dead to me.

          • Michael Scott

            You shut the f**k up for a change, Peter .

          • WoW, I can just imagine your little boys saying “shut up daddy, quit being a fan boy of all the things and experiences that you’ve learned in life…..leading up to being our daddy”…

          • PerSpeier35

            Peter, really, is this going to be the extent of your contribution to the blog this season?

          • The Oracle

            I wasn’t aware that thinking Bochy had a bad season last year and needs to be better in 2017 was so unacceptable. Criticizing Cain, ok. Criticizing Bochy, very bad. Check.

          • Matthew

            Not quite…the point is that you are addicted to criticism, or arguing…you need a hug

          • The Oracle

            My only other criticism this spring, other than Cain, has been saying that I don’t think Gorkys Hernandez is a big leaguer.

        • First of all Malloy, Rick Yu and Ed Schroder say hello to your and ‘yours’.
          Secondly I have chosen certain relief core in HS or JUCO college that have done their jobs on one weekend and the same people have thrown up on their jersey’s the next weekend. Making bad pitches, shaking off pitches called by my pitching coach and throwing to first base with our first baseman playing off the bag.
          THE final responsibility lies with whomever is the Head Coach or Manager. That does not mean that everybody on my staff or in this case Bochy’s staff would not have called on the same people from the bullpen.

          • The Oracle

            What’s the purpose of dropping the names of people you don’t know and who have no relevance to the conversation?

          • You know what the answer to that is. My cute San Jose Police officer neighbor back home in Redwood Shores also said – Hello – to you. But she also thinks you’re a Hunky Nice Guy.

          • The Oracle

            I don’t believe the neighbor exists. “Hunky nice guy” was just a lucky guess.

          • For this you could LOSE the highest amount of Booty or cash you are willing to bet.

      • Peter Johnson

        Bochy fanboy please shutup !

    • Michael Scott

      Your mental health will improve if you let it go,

      • Peter Johnson

        Bochy fanboy please be quiet !

      • The Oracle

        Did Bochy have a good season in 2016? Doesn’t a manager have at least some impact on a team’s performance?

        • Michael Scott

          No. Yes. Let it go.

  • Michael Scott

    Who goes next? Still a lot of competition for the last 3 or 4 spots.

    • Peter Johnson

      Rollins !

  • just peachy.

    One of the local sports newscasters is on my plane. I forget his name. His cameraman is pretty cute! Off to AZ!

    • HaakAway

      Spring-Training-Hints-Learned-the-Hard-Way …
      If you end up with bleacher seats, be sure you are above row 5 (view constantly blocked); and mid-game switch to standing behind RF; enjoy a new view and feel your legs again.

  • Matthew

    Welcome to Bochy Fanboy Shutup Sunday on TWG!

    • Ham & Egging It

      “Fanboy,” as a pejorative term always gives me a chuckle!

      • channelclemente

        I’m left wondering what the inverse or opposite to ‘fanboy’ is. There’s a contest for us, what’s the opposite of a fanboy?

        • DrLefty

          “Efrain”

          • channelclemente

            Hmmm, fanny-boy in that instance?? Just kidding.

          • Ham & Egging It

            The term originated in the “gamer” community. A strong preference to a particular brand or game.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc1SQ-brL_A
            Contains blue language.

          • Efrain

            good because you do realize a fanboy is a lemming who follows what others say and has no personal opinions and is so biased to his / her team that they pay no attention to reality.

            Yep, I like being the opposite of a “fanboy”

        • “Those who shall remain nameless”.

          It was one of MLBSF’s favorite utterances

  • DrLefty

    From Baggs on the fifth starter competition.

    https://twitter.com/extrabaggs/status/846087172297961472

    • Efrain

      that’s good news!

    • John Victory Faust

      Couldn’t they just name Matty as a Special Assistant to Larry Baer for his last contract year and free up his roster spot for Ty?

  • 12xu

    Melky Cabrera up at the plate now. Are the Melkmen and Melkmaids in the stands?

  • Matthew

    I’m surprised Bengie Marrero didn’t score

  • Matthew

    I’m not surprised Bengie Marrero got picked off

    • Peter Johnson

      Wow you are a hater !

      • Matthew

        Why, thank you!

      • Says the one who broke the mold

  • crawnik

    Gregor Blanco has a strained oblique and is day to day, Lovullo said. The injury could “possibly” hurt chances to make Opening Day roster.

  • channelclemente

    Damn slappy hitter!!!

    • Peter Johnson

      Who?

      • Rogers Hornsby

        • Peter Johnson

          Nope , over 300 HRs !

          • channelclemente

            Over 22-23 years… slappy.

          • Peter Johnson

            He did not play that long

          • channelclemente

            LOL. He started in the ‘teens’ and played until the late 1930s. I saw the movie.

          • Peter Johnson

            I saw his Baseball card, I only count full seasons, not bonus babies players that had to stay on the team but did not play .

          • channelclemente

            Nah, nah, na, nah. The movie wasbetter, Frank Lovejoy as Hornsby.

          • Peter Johnson

            He actually played full time from 1916 to 1929, noticed power started in 1920, when Ruth started hitting HRs, guess they started to juice the in the 1920s, the dead ball era was before that .

          • The Oracle

            One season with 42 HRs, two with 39. Those are heavy slaps.

          • channelclemente

            3/23 before he learned the error of his ways. LOL. Besides, you live and breath off averages. Want a graph?

          • The Oracle

            Before you brought him up, I never realized that Hornsby had only 305 PAs, total, over his last six seasons.

          • channelclemente

            I apologize for ‘trolling you’ to make an arithmetic point.

          • The Oracle

            You had no idea, either. Hornsby didn’t fit Peter’s definition of “slap hitter.”

          • channelclemente

            I saw the movie.

          • Tony Gwynn labeled himself as a punch and judy hitter.

          • Peter Johnson

            He was, because he tried to be one, would not sacrifice average for power, Could have hit for more power, that’s why him and Jack Clark did not get along on the Padres , Jack Clark called him a selfish player .

          • Jack Clark vs Tony Gwynn. I will take the latter.

          • Peter Johnson

            Your bias, I will take Clark I am bias too, and Ted Williams,, told Gwyn the same thing by the way, you need to try to drive the ball in certain counts

          • One part of your sentence “you need to try to drive the ball in certain counts” is true and is part of You Tube lore. But we should remind ourselves that Teddy Ballgame titled his book “The Science of Hitting” and Tony titled his book “The Art of Hitting”. Both are correct.

        • Matthew

          I always wondered…what’s with the “s”? I mean, it wasn’t Willies Mays. Juans Marichal. Mickeys Mantle….just sayin’

          • Peter Johnson

            Gorkys

          • Matthew

            Great call

  • steve k

    big game james (or, as my wife calls him, get off the field shields) hasn’t changed much

    • paul in p.v.

      He’s just bigly.

  • paul in p.v.

    Alex Pavlovic ✔ @AlexPavlovic
    David Hernandez signed with the Braves.

    Good for the dude.

  • paul in p.v.

    Whoa!

    Andrew Baggarly ✔ @extrabaggs
    This is a big start for Ty Blach. Latest indications are that the Giants haven’t settled on Matt Cain opening as the No.5 starter.

  • The Oracle

    Rollins is hitting .079. Time to say goodbye.

    • livfreerdi

      It was never time to say hello.

      • The Oracle

        That too.

  • Matthew

    I noticed PJ started softening up a bit …he went from “shut up” to “please shut up” in his more recent posts.

    Baby steps

  • Efrain
    • Matthew

      Nice! Thanks, Fanboy!

    • Peter Johnson

      Noticed they were all pulled, Pull the ball in the air and HRs happen it is that easy, none of this slap the ball the other way stuff .

    • PerSpeier35

      The Giants and Bonds had run their course when they did not bring him back but I always thought the A’s were nuts not signing him on as a DH. He would have hit a bunch of homers and put a lot of fans in the empty seats at the Coliseum.

      • HaakAway

        MyGuyUpdate™ … since Will Smith got DL’ed you need to pick a replacement for him. Or did I miss your March 25 update?

        • PerSpeier35

          You didn’t miss it, I forgot to do it. If you want to slip me in I’ll take Osich in place of Smith, Hill in place of Rollins, and Blach in place of Gearrin.

          • HaakAway

            You got it; there was no news on any of those picks since our deadline so no big deal to stretch this.

  • Matthew

    When is Jose Aguacil due back?

    • crawnik

      I heard Friday that he would be back in the coaches box before the Giants broke camp on Wednesday.

  • Matthew

    Nice play, Conor

  • channelclemente

    The White Sox announcers seem surprised at Gillaspea’s defense… sour grapes.

    • 12xu

      Ron Wotus, the Infielder Whisperer.

    • Michael Scott

      He’s improved. He had been pretty awful .

  • channelclemente

    Setting aside the quality of the competition, Blach seems be doing well.

    • Peter Johnson

      You think so, White Sox have a few good MLB hitters in lineup, Abreu, Cabrera, Frazier ,

      • channelclemente

        They are a sub average offense, in the bottom tertile offensively in baseball.

        • Matthew

          Dude….I come here to avoid meeting-speak such as “tertile”

          • DrLefty

            Nobody knows how to spell “turtle”–good thing I showed up. SMH

          • channelclemente

            For sale a third off.

          • channelclemente

            PJ demands precision from his fanboy epithets.

          • Matthew

            He wants to know why you’re talking about shoulder pads for turtles

    • Peter Johnson

      Jinxed him, now were stuck with Cain !

  • 12xu

    Bengie Rollins.

    • Matthew

      Did that put him over the Half Mendoza?

      • 12xu

        Yes, now at .103 because he got credit for a double on that play. That’s a scoring rule that’s always bugged me.

  • Matthew

    Born under a bad sign

  • Matthew

    When the hell did Steve Stone morph into Chris Berman?

    And he’s working with a gecko?

  • 2holehitting

    yeah Melkey 2 for 3 against Blech

    • Matthew

      Who the heck is Mel Key?

      • 2holehitting

        He was the Key to the Giants Left Field problems….

        • Efrain

          for a decade

      • 610nm

        One of the Ninja Tertiles?

        • Matthew

          Steroid Mutant Ninja Tertile?

      • channelclemente

        He a comedy act in the Poconos.

        • DrLefty

          He’ll be here all week

          /mic drop

    • Michael Scott

      Blech? What an arse hole you are.

  • Matthew

    Book it: Blach in the rotation

    • 2holehitting

      does look good but there is still the $20M dollar question that needs answering. I will also state there are more right handed hitters in MLB thus you need 3 RH starters

      • The Oracle

        If a guy can’t get people out, it doesn’t matter which hand he uses.

        • 2holehitting

          Lower ERA than the Smardzija

          • The Oracle

            Samardzija isn’t coming off of a two year streak of awfulness.

      • Michael Scott

        You are right. MadBum has to go.

    • 22’sSweetSwing

      Not flipping likey

  • DrLefty

    #TeamBlach

    • channelclemente

      Looked good today.

      • DrLefty

        May have tired a bit in that fifth inning–hadn’t pitched beyond three all spring. Great job getting that 4-6-3 DP in the sixth after getting behind 3-0 to Abreu. Blach’s a grinder…reminds me of Vogey that way a bit.

        • Matthew

          And got squeezed all day

          • DrLefty

            Yep, it sure looked like it, didn’t it? Good poise. He HAD to know what was at stake today. This is the guy who beat Kershaw with the season on the line and pitched two scoreless in relief in an elimination game.

            Cain used to be that guy, too–if Blach is his heir apparent, it’s fitting.

          • paul in p.v.

            Nails Blach.

          • DrLefty

            Excellent quality in a pitcher. Not skittish.

          • paul in p.v.

            ESPECIALLY considering his ML career could turn on this start.

        • channelclemente

          That, or after 2x through, he decided to go to a groundball approach after getting ambushed. That is, he talked to Righetti.

          • Peter Johnson

            It’s always the coaching with you, so funny .

          • channelclemente

            Thank you for figuring out who has the brains on the Giants.

          • The Oracle

            Only when players do well. When they don’t, it’s just them.

  • Matthew

    We crack me up.

  • Matthew

    No, dude…it’s not “Christian A Rowee Yo”

  • 22’sSweetSwing

    HS reporting that Parker has k’ed 12 of last 20 plate appearances.

    • Peter Johnson

      He’s hitting way better then Pence, what’s your deal!

      • Matthew

        Peter Carroll!

        • Peter Johnson

          I know you would notice that, I crack up when posters go crazy over strikeouts, usually it’s the same group that want more bunting .

      • channelclemente

        Trends? The recurrence of last years bad habits.

        • Matthew

          Slap a graph on this baby!

        • Peter Johnson

          Read my reply to Matthew, you are that type .

          • channelclemente

            But you have absolutely nothing to say beyond an ad hominem. PJ, better than Pence, is a pointless remark to an interesting question. That was such a foolish riposte, it deserves no graph.

    • crawnik

      He’s still the starting LF’er.

      • 22’sSweetSwing

        Lucky us

      • Michael Scott

        For now.

  • DrLefty

    It’s too much trouble to say “Okert” and “Osich.” I dub them “Okich.”

    • Matthew

      I say go with the Kuiper. It’s an FCC violation, but highly entertaining

  • Matthew

    Well, Steve…maybe he could stab Kelby.

  • Peter Johnson

    Crap, Rollins is on the team now, that’s all Bochy needed to see, were all doomed !

    • HaakAway

      Ha ha … No, the A’s are watching to see if they can sign him for a Local Kid Final Game Tour.
      The Giants have too many other options. Only two of us have JR making the team.

      • Peter Johnson

        I actually just remembered I had him originally, because Bochy loves vets, and would give him the benefit of the doubt, but with his awful spring I thought no way , but now who knows, I notice Marty Lurie and the beat writers are rooting big time for him to make the team, all Clutch’s buddies I guess .

        • Matthew

          That sounds like a sex toy “Cltch Buddy”

          • Matthew

            Damn. You fixed it and ruined my joke

    • Told ya …

  • Matthew

    Return Of Bengie

  • DrLefty

    Let’s bop that Dan Jennings guy over the head and tuck him in an equipment bag and take him back to SF. He sounds like exactly what the Giants need.

  • Matthew

    BLAKE!!!!

    OK, you know who I root for but I need Blake to pitch well.

  • Matthew

    30 foot slides are suspect

  • “UnSlappy” Peter Johnson

    Below are 100 or so nicknames – I will asterisk my prejudiced favorites

    * “BABE” . . . “THE SULTAN OF SWAT” . . . “THE BAMBINO,” George Herman Ruth
    Lawrence Peter “YOGI” Berra
    * MR. OCTOBER,”Reggie Jackson
    * JOLTIN’ JOE DiMaggio
    * Stan “THE MAN” Musial
    THE COMMERCE COMET,” Mickey Mantle
    * James Thomas “COOL PAPA” Bell
    SHOELESS JOE” Jackson
    THE SPLENDID SPLINTER,” Ted Williams
    SCOOTER,”Phil Rizzuto
    THE IRON HORSE,Lou Gehrig
    * Dennis “OIL CAN” Boyd
    CHARLIE HUSTLE,” Pete Rose
    Harry “SUITCASE” Simpson
    Edward “WHITEY” Ford, “THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD,” and “SLICK”
    Bill “SPACEMAN” Lee
    Harold Joseph “PIE” Traynor
    * Honus Wagner, “THE FLYING DUTCHMAN”
    * John “The Count” Montefusco
    Jim “MUDCAT” Grant
    Jim “CATFISH” Hunter
    * Johnny Lee “BLUE MOON” Odom
    * THE SAY HEY KID,Willie Mays
    * Johnny “HIPPITY” Hopp
    * Mark “THE BIRD” Fidrych
    Denton True “CY” Young
    Albert Walter “SPARKY” Lyle
    Rich “Goose” Gossage.
    George “SPARKY” Anderson
    * Walter “BIG TRAIN” Johnson
    Ted “DOUBLE DUTY” Radcliffe
    * THE MEAL TICKET,” Carl Hubbell
    * THE GEORGIA PEACH,” Ty Cobb
    Lewis “HACK” Wilson
    Clarence Arthur “DAZZY” Vance
    THE GASHOUSE GANG”
    HAMMERIN’ HANK,” Henry Aaron
    SKOON J,Carl Fujrillo also “The Reading Rifle,” loved scungilli.
    PISTOL PETE Reiser
    BULLET BOB Turley
    George “SHOTGUN” Shuba
    SPRINGFIELD,” Vic Raschi
    * THE TOY CANNON,” Jimmy Wynn
    THE HOUSE THAT RUTH BUILT”
    * BIG POISON and “LITTLE POISON,” Brothers Paul and Lloyd Waner
    Elwin Charles “PREACHER” Roe
    * Charlie “KING KONG” Keller
    * EYE CHART,Doug Gwosdz
    * Leroy “SATCHEL” Paige
    Arlie Latham, “THE FRESHEST MAN ON EARTH”
    POOSH ‘EM UP” Tony Lazzeri
    George “SNUFFY” Stirnweiss
    Charles Leo “GABBY” Hartnett
    Frank “HOME RUN” Baker
    * Bill “MOOSE” Skowron
    DONNIE BASEBALL,” Don Mattingly
    Jack “LUCKY” Lohrke
    * Harry “THE HAT” Walker
    Mordecai “THREE FINGER” Brown
    ** Johnny “UGLY” Dickshot
    * THE BABY BULL, Orlando Cepeda Also known as “Cha-Cha.”
    EL DUQUE,” Orlando Hernandez
    Edwin “DUKE” Snider
    ** Buck “LEAKY” Fausett
    Moses “THE RABBI OF SWAT” Solomon
    ** Harold Henry “PEE WEE” Reese
    * Sal “THE BARBER” Maglie
    Ed “THE GLIDER” Charles
    *** Archibald “MOONLIGHT” Graham
    * Harry Lee “PEANUTS” Lowery
    THE BOSS,George Steinbrenner
    * LOUISIANA LIGHTNING,” Ron Guidry
    Russell Earl “BUCKY” Dent
    **** THE HUMAN RAIN DELAY,” Mike Hargrove
    * Walt “NO NECK” Williams
    Harry Arthur “COOKIE” Lavagetto, Octavio Victor “COOKIE” Rojas
    * Clarence “CHOO CHOO” Coleman
    Ron “TOPPER” Davis
    DIRT, Dick Tidrow
    * SAD SAM Jones
    William Hayward “MOOKIE” Wilson
    * LE GRANDE ORANGE,” Rusty Staub
    THE ASTORIA EAGLE,” Hugh McQuillan
    THE ARKANSAS HUMMINGBIRD,” Lon Warneke
    ROCKET, Roger Clemens
    OLD ACHES AND PAINS” Luke Appling
    OLD RELIABLE,” Tommy Henrich
    James Francis “PUD” Galvin
    Al “THE CURVELESS WONDER” Orth
    *** THE MAD HUNGARIAN” Al Hrabosky
    George “TWINKLE TOES” Selkirk
    *** Dick “DR. STRANGEGLOVE” Stuart
    Todd “Hot Rod” Hundly”
    THE HONDO HURRICANE,” Clint Hartung
    THE STATEN ISLAND SCOT, Bobby Thomson

  • Peter Johnson

    Somebody Fire Vince Coleman, Giants base running is a joke !

    • Matthew

      I’ll send a tarp

      • Peter Johnson

        Base running has cost the Giants many runs today .

    • Efrain

      ever think it’s not the coach? This team is slow and not very athletic.

      • Peter Johnson

        Then stay on the base, I am Earl Weaver , I hate base running outs !

      • Matthew

        Speedist

      • Peter Johnson

        Actually that’s the point , do not try to be aggressive on the bases if you have no speed .

        • Efrain

          I hear you. Of course there is the “it’s the coaches fault and guys like Belt and Tomiinson will steal 25 bases this year!”

          Lolz

      • BOOM great post

    • You used the word FIRE and JOKE.

      Vince Coleman is a camp visitor. Players who run the bases poorly = that is on them not on any coach.

  • Matthew

    Hwang is an interesting hot mess

    • Efrain

      and an MLB hitter

      • Matthew

        The MLB game appears to move too fast for him everywhere but the batters box

        • Efrain

          haven’t done the research: Do the Giants own his rights or can he back out of deal and join an AL team that needs a DH?

          • Matthew

            I defer to Contract Rainman Lefty

  • Matthew

    Bruce in October mode

    • Brownie

      BTW, how do you like the Sharks choke job?

      • Matthew

        Felt it coming … old. Slow. No line depth

  • Brownie

    Really? Dramatic climax in a ST game? SMH

  • channelclemente

    Pressure test.

    • 2holehitting

      too much pressure…..

  • 2holehitting

    This game has been good for situational season like decisions and plays

  • Matthew

    Oh, those bases on balls

  • crawnik

    This was a Melancon save oppo.

    • 2holehitting

      He is a Giant, It does not matter who they put out there. BS in the Box for anyone they run out.

      • crawnik

        Yep. Visions of 2016 rearing its ugly head…

        • 2holehitting

          An omen of things to come, trying to protect a 1 run lead for 4 innings is statistically bound to fail. I would bet on that in Vegas every time.

          • Peter Johnson

            Base running cost them the game .

          • Matthew

            Rollins, Hwang. Yupper

          • Peter Johnson

            My problem I picked him

        • Michael Scott

          Please, that’s absurd.

    • Michael Scott

      Yes, if this was the regular season, it would be.But it’s kinda not the regular season

  • Matthew

    The win goes to Modesto’s Blake Smith… the loss to Ramirez. The save goes to Hwang

    • Peter Johnson

      Your fault rooting for local guy over local team, Clutch Jr.

      • Matthew

        He’s my sons HS friend, Turbo.

        • Peter Johnson

          Bite the Bullet, priorities, a pass only if he was your son !

          • Matthew

            You aren’t even giving me a March Spring Training pass?

          • Peter Johnson

            Nope, probably cost MY guy Ramirez a roster spot .

          • Matthew

            Ramirez caused his own problems

          • Peter Johnson

            My problem I picked him, posted it in wrong space below .

          • HaakAway

            Six of us added Ramirez to the 25-Man this week.
            Gearrin substitute?

          • Peter Johnson

            Yes .

          • Michael Scott

            Neil still deserves it, but with at least 2 more outings each, it’s up for grabs.

          • channelclemente

            Wait for the hole card.

          • Michael Scott

            I have no idea what you are talking about.

          • channelclemente

            Wait, as you seem to suggest, for the last card to be dealt before you come to the premature conclusion that the decision has been made. Not a 7 card stud player, perhaps.

          • Bapah

            One person removed Ramirez, NO?

  • Efrain

    The Giants can’t be in the market for LH reliever fast enough.

    May need to finally turn all these extra AAA starters into a quick trade with a team needing starters badly.

    I don’t see Osich and Okert meeting anywhere the expectations of the fanboys on this blog. With Smith out, it makes the situation much more serious.

    • Matthew

      You gotta save your Fanboy bullets for when it matters

      • Efrain

        Oh trust me Matthew this matter.

        I know you know baseball wel enough to not think that just the signing of Melancon was the one stroke fix to the crapy pen that handcuffed the team last season.

        On top of that add that its really many of the usual suspects that were part of last seasons zoo.

        Do you really think the in house solutions just “have” to make it? Why?

        • Matthew

          Dude…Okert is fine. He came in to a 1 out , 2nd and 3rd. Cuz some random dude everyone is hot on walked two guys.

          • Efrain

            Well, good to stay positive I guess.

            Trade deadline is up on the Giants management board in big red letter. Trust me.

          • SPRING TRAINING GAME

        • wel enough (understood)

    • channelclemente

      Tenuous, baseball is rarely serious. It’s a game.

  • Matthew

    UK went ice cold… outscored 12-0 down the stretch

    • Matthew

      What a finish…

  • channelclemente
  • Michael Scott

    *Neither Hwang or Marrero should be playing in the outfield unless 5 other guys come down with Yellow Fever.
    * Rollins scalded the ball today. Who hates that?? Everybody?
    *Ty wasn’t at his best, which makes his outing quite impressive.
    * Ruggiano is probably going to make the team

    • The only thing Jimmy RO had to prove was his acceptance of his 2017 role. They didn’t bring him INTO camp to not make the team.

      • Michael Scott

        I like Jimmy . But I like Kelby more.

        • Michael Scott

          The little runt has grown on me.

      • Matthew

        What role is that exactly, Clutch? And, do you think he can do it better than others…OR, is it a necessary role unto itself?

        • The role of a former everyday MVP shortstop whose been to the WS and may have HOF credentials…..his first two years OFF of the Phils – he did not understand he had to sacrifice his ego – however having said that when he played for the Dodgers his first yr off the Phils he resembled half of his former self and he hurt the Giants several times. His attempt with the White Sox was futile. If he “has his legs” and can provide leadership and a spark off the bench from both sides of the plate, it may-could-might be invaluable.

          • Matthew

            I hear you, and all of what you say about him are true….but what I keep harping on is this: all of those attributes seem redundant on a team with Crawford, Bum, Belt , Posey and Pence as stars, as well as Gillaspie on the bench….What specific need will he need to fill given the rest of this roster – especially when considering his presence supplants someone else.

          • My heart says Kelby can wait – if in fact Rollins comes off the bench to pinch hit and then the opposing skipper brings in another pitcher and all Rollings has to do is turn around in the batters box and now whether he fails or succeeds – he made the other skipper burn somebody in his pen…

            All the peeps you say have the same DNA as Rollins are mostly starters.

    • HaakAway

      Marrero 2017 = Morse 2014 ?
      So I added Ruggiano to your 25-Man just now. That makes eight and you can add one more since Smith is on the DL. Who do you want?

      • Bapah

        Hey, I just realized that we haven’t seen yours yet, have we? We need to make fun of you as much as the other way around.

        • Moooooooooose

          We don’t need to see his roster to do that!

          • Michael Scott

            That is so cool. Does it mean that I am one of the gang,now?

          • Moooooooooose

            No.

          • Michael Scott

            You know what? I hope your dumb baseball team loses every game even though they are cheating little dunderheads.

          • Moooooooooose

            How did you know our team name?

          • Michael Scott

            It just figured.

        • Michael Scott

          Haak will post it. I want you know that he will be lying . I never picked Wynton Bernard and Brandon Bednar.

      • Michael Scott

        I don’t know who I have anymore.

        • HaakAway

          You have Gorkys, KT, Mac, Hill, Osich, Blach and now Rugg. If you can give me your Final Eight before any significant news comes out, that works.

  • Michael Scott

    I might have to unblock one of the doltans. My screen looks like the crowd at Donald’s inauguration.

  • channelclemente

    Big day for the Raiders tomorrow, or the beginning of the end.

    http://www.kcra.com/article/raiders-to-las-vegas-should-happen-monday-with-little-delay/9187941

    • Matthew

      It’s over…Goodell has made it a done deal. Sad.

      • channelclemente

        Goodfellas meets Casino.

      • Brownie

        Why? F the Raiders and the AAA’s. They need to get the hell out of the bay

        • Matthew

          Because they have fans.

          • Brownie

            What? All 20 of them?

          • Matthew

            I forgot how much you love those Coliseum teams! And fans!!

          • Brownie

            I’m married to one of those 20 bandwagoners, LOL

          • Lunch_Box

            I hope the so-called new “fans” kept their receipts and can return the Raiders swag they bought this past season. Or at least store credit.

      • Keep’n It Real

        I think the NFL is skipping over the downside of this deal, because they get 3 things out of it:

        1. $750 Million from Vegas taxpayers.
        2. Leverage to force Mark Davis to sell to another really-really-rich guy(s), if he ever defaults on the loans.
        3. Built in Super Bowl location. Anytime you get to insert Vegas into the rotation, your Marketing gets a big win.

        The idea that they think Vegas will be as big as Oakland in 2037 is crazy. Professionals that can’t afford homes in SF will start (and have started) buying in Oakland. Today’s median salary data is kind of BS, because there’s only a few small areas in Vegas where the big salaries live…and they’re altering the data. If Oakland’s data included some of the nearby cities in their data, then the numbers would look much more promising. Trust me…I did the research; which is time I’ll never get back. I was slapping some Vegas residents around on ESPN.

        Raiders fans are going to bitch and moan, but there’s nothing in their DNA that will allow them to root for the 49ers. They will eventually start to attend Vegas games (like many did in LA) and that will be that…and Vegas is a funner place to go. Their kids, however, will become 49ers fans…much like many did when the Raiders were in LA.

        For the record, the move to LA was something Al had to do. Rozelle got Oakland to pull back their offer to improve the Oakland Coliseum, because “He can never move. We won’t let him.” Anyone that was burned like that…especially with the Commissioner getting involved (with AFL v NFL hate thrown in there), would have moved to.

        This one is on Mark. Oakland deserves some blame, but the environment for how Stadiums are paid for has changed since the days Al was alive. Mark doesn’t have the money…doesn’t want to sell any shares of the team to generate a richer ownership group (he’s on welfare, compare to their owners)…and I predict he’ll default and the NFL will sell out from under him.

  • Matthew

    If one is to judge by passion for the game, will to win, and deep care about teammates, De’Andre Fox of Kentucky has a much brighter future than Lonzo Ball of UCLA.

    One cried his eyes out after a loss where he left everything on the court ( and performed very, very well)

    One left his locker room behind and declared for the draft 2 minutes after his team lost ( and performed OK)

    • Efrain

      you have no clue about that and you know it.

      First they are different players, one is a scorer and one is a distributor.

      Ball plays without much emotion, did so in high school and never changed in college. Some guys are just like that.

      • Matthew

        You have no clue and you know it…I did watch Fox absolutely obliterate Ball the other night, by the way.

        What also see that Fox has and Ball doesn’t – speed of play.

        • Efrain

          Whatever, stick to baseball.

          Ball will be just fine at the next level and will be able to play at the next level and will fill a need for anyone needing a real PG.

          Fox is more of a scorer playing PG. He’ll be a good 2, but don’t think he’ll play PG in the NBA.

          • Matthew

            Let’s chat when both have some NBA experience, Belt Lover

    • Moooooooooose

      I don’t see much of a future for Ball in the NBA. He’s gonna get chewed up and spit out. I’ll be very surprised if he’s on an NBA roster by midseason.

    • Efrain

      shows how much you know from one game watching him – his name is De”Aaron NOT De’Andre

      HAHAHAHAHHA

      • Matthew

        I love you and love my spell check. It’s clear that Apple’s spellcheck is racist

      • Matthew

        By the way…go to bed. You need to work tomorrow

        • Efrain

          Ok Ma’Athieau

          HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

          • Matthew

            Have another drink.

    • The Oracle

      He ate Ball’s lunch and made him quit. Yeah, Ball is definitely better than Steph Curry. In reality, he’s going to have to work hard to try to be better than Ricky Rubio.

  • Michael Scott

    This morning I had looked at the LU that is posted above. I thought that it was today’s LU. No wonder that I didn’t know what the heck was going on. I thought that Stratton was pitching a pretty game. I never knew that he was ambidextrous.

  • PerSpeier35

    Did any of you folks who watched the Warriors game tonight hear Jim Barnett talk about meeting me at the Safeway the other night? That was really nice of him.

    • Moooooooooose

      What did he say?

      • channelclemente

        Pork tenders are on sale.

        • Moooooooooose

          Is that at all Safeways or just that location?

          • PerSpeier35

            Maybe you missed my note the other night; I bumped into him at Safeway in Orinda and got to chat with him for a few minutes.

          • Moooooooooose

            I saw your note, just wanted to know what he said about it.

          • Moooooooooose

            Just saw your original response after refreshing. I was hoping he would have said he was honored to meet a TWG contributor and asked what you knew about the rest of us!

      • PerSpeier35

        Nuttin’ Honey, I was just kiddin’. He probably already forgot that I delayed his shopping with all my Warriors nostalgia.

  • channelclemente
    • Michael Scott

      A lot of the parents here are not letting their sons play football..

    • Efrain

      It’s a bar fight, hardly Hernandez level front page news.

      You don’t think football players in the 60’s and 70’s got into bar fights? Only reason you never heard about it is because fanboys weren’t trolling for any twitter news all day and the internet didn’t catch every second of players lives.

      Remember the blog after Cousins and Barnes got arrested after their fight in a NY club? Hows that going?

  • Ty Blach brings energy to the team and good positive vibes when he’s on the hill.

    • Michael Scott

      Yes,as long that he pitches well.

    • steve k

      he gets it from the catcher, and he’s ready to throw the next pitch. i love that. the infield stays on their toes, and it’s usually a much crisper game.

      • Doesn’t allow the batter to dig in and get to comfortable.

        • steve k

          i think the HP ump appreciates a crisp game, and on borderline pitches, ya never know, they may go his way.

  • PerSpeier35

    Those darn Warriors just don’t have the heart to be a champion, they are too busy wiping out their opponents. Right E?

    • Michael Scott

      When do the play-offs start?

      • DrLefty

        They have nine more regular season games, so a little under three weeks.

        • Michael Scott

          I guess that they have to win out to get in.

          • DrLefty

            LOL. They clinched their playoff spot a month ago, right before Durant was injured. They have a 2.5 game lead for the #1 seed with 9 to play. It would be smart of them to beat San Antonio this week.

    • Lunch_Box

      You’re confusing them with the San Jose Sharks.

  • DrLefty

    Really interesting stuff from Baggs. Sounds like they may play some roster games to keep Neil Ramirez (send Cain to the minors/DL; use Blach out of the bullpen before his Game 5 start), whom they like and think they would lose on waivers.

    It also sounds like the bigger problem is that all the outfielders, how shall I put this, suck.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/26/giants-notes-in-no-5-starter-battle-between-ty-blach-and-matt-cain-the-answer-could-be-both/

    • Michael Scott

      I am sure that you noticed that he only gave props to one outfielder..

      • DrLefty

        Span has been red-hot. Thank goodness. I’ve said before, he gets a clean slate from me this year, and I’m rooting for him. The backup options are kind of frightening, but I’m feeling better about my Ruggiano-over-Gorkys pick yesterday.

        • Michael Scott

          I was being a wise guy. It’s in my DNA. Thor Scott once short sheeted Grok Jones while Grok was out hunting monkeys and stuff.

        • livfreerdi

          The problem is they consider him a leadoff hitter, though he was 12 of 19 in steals last year.

          • DrLefty

            Agreed. I’d put Nunez there, or even Kelby if he’s in the lineup.

    • Lunch_Box

      Absolutely agree about the OFs. I read Schulman’s tweet that Parker had struck out 12 times in his last 20 ABs. After reading earlier in ST that Parker and Williamson were hitting well, I was hopeful that one of them would take the job in LF. I wasn’t a Parker fan last season, but I was hopeful after seeing his numbers earlier. It looks like he may have reached his ceiling. Now that doesn’t seem like the case, and it would seem maybe Marerro will be the starting LF? Span is picking it up, but I’m not worried about Pence unless it’s May. I hope he’s not slowing down.

      • DrLefty

        It’s really a bummer that Mac is hurt. We may have a revolving door in LF this season. Wouldn’t be the first time, either.

    • livfreerdi

      That 10-day DL scheme is bad for baseball. The last thing you need is to give managers like Bochy more freedom to burn through the bullpen. Now that it’s easier to play roster games to give pitchers a rest, the mythology of the matchups will be even more powerful.

      • DrLefty

        Actually in our case, I like it. So many times someone would get a tweak–let’s call him “Angel Pagan”–and they’d play shorthanded for a week and then put him on the DL anyway. Now they can just go ahead and do it, knowing that it’s only 10 days.

        • livfreerdi

          Bad management decisions shouldn’t inspire new rules, though. But yes, the Giants may indeed benefit. It’s bad for ball, not necessarily the Giants.

          • Michael Scott

            How about a 48 hour disabled list? I noticed that a lot guys seemed to have hangovers last year.

          • JStreet

            “Ever had one that hung on for 3-4 days? ..I don’t mind the headaches so much, it’s that damn doublevision that bothers me..”. -Airline pilot to passengers, as portrayed in Bob Newhart sketch, 1959 or so.

          • Sgbssfg

            Button Down Mind?

          • JStreet

            That’s it. The “Grace L Ferguson Airline and Storm Door Co.”
            Vintage comedy.

          • DrLefty

            My late father used to say he had the “12-hour flu” after a night out with friends.

        • Lunch_Box

          I’m not going to miss those Pagan days off.

    • Efrain

      I mentioned such about two months ago.

      Gives the Giants the most flexibility in keeping Blach on the roster from the jump, keeping Cain around without the full commitment in case he implodes and gives them the opening to bring Beede up to test him and have him seasoned for the end of the year as needed.

      Of course the lack of OF talent puts a strain on the roster and the ability to keep so many pitchers involved.

      Keep an eye out for Ryan Braun. If the Brewers stink up the first two months they may just go on a youth movement early.

      • DrLefty

        The most interesting thing about that Baggs article is the detail about how they’re planning to work Beede in this season without overloading his innings count. They think he’s ready NOW. This is really good because if Cueto opts out, they’ll need Beede and Blach in the rotation next year, and it’s better to give them both experience this year. Thinking ahead, unlike what they did with the outfielders last year.

        I think this is going to be a year where we may see a lot of different guys shuttle through the outfield, the bullpen, and maybe 3B. Stay tuned.

        • Efrain

          Agree.

          Sad reality, but it is what it is.

          Why i always say that Evans & Co have really not done very much and deserve more fan flack than kudos.

          You or I could have opened up our wallets to sign Cueto, Shark, Melancon.

          After that were is the strategy to build the roster, the thinking ahead?

          I’m not worried about 3B because I think they will get enough out of Nunez/Gillaspie for the season before the possible transition to Arrroyo next year,

          But the OF?!?!? WTF? It has been old and lacking for years. There are a million reasons i house solutions like Mac and Parker haven’t made it, mainly lack of talent.

          And the pen, they were relying on Smith. If Law, Okert, Strickland, Osich don’t produce they are up a creek without a paddle.

  • DrLefty

    Alejandro de Aza is going to opt out of his deal with the A’s. Anyone want him back as a fourth OF? If it’s between him and Gorkys, I vote yes.

    • Anti-Lasorda

      De Aza can sort if hit MLB pitching. Gorkys. Hmmmmm.

    • Matthew

      This is the interesting part of Spring Training for this very reason: some guys start becoming available, and you look at who you have versus who is popping up.

      I would love to have de Aza back

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Can he back up CF?

        • DrLefty

          Yes–can, does, has.

          • DrLefty

            Indeed, he’s played more MLB games in CF than anywhere else.

        • Matthew

          Not to the level of Gorkys, I’m sure….but his entire game – to me – is a slight (albeit different) upgrade to our current set of back ups. I would bet he can defend as well or better than Denard…and throw way better (which ain’t saying much)

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            But would the Giants be better off throwing Ruggiano, Tomlinson, or Gorkys out there after consideration is given to defensive capability and offensive potential?

          • Matthew

            Probably not. KT is a fantastic infield back up. We’re all searching for a viable OF backup and anoint him through Wishful Thinking Rosterbation…and he may be “fine”. But, our outfield situation is….not good

    • Efrain

      the very fact the team has the fans trolling to see what scrap heap they can pick up about a week before the season starts should tell you how well the team did to fill the lack of OF talent it had.

      They suckered everyone into thinking the home grown “talent” was enough and that the scrap heap they had already picked up was capable of any real sustained help.

      And people question that the Dodgers have a deeper roster. Have you checked their OF depth alone? so many options it’s numbing.

      But that being said, de Aza woudl help.

      • DrLefty

        I cannot argue with you there. I’ve been complaining about their OF for literally years. I get that you can’t buy ALL the players, and they did need a closer, but yiiiiiikes, are they thin in the OF–again.

        • The Oracle

          Has Belt played even one inning in LF this spring?

          • DrLefty

            No.

          • The Oracle

            Makes sense.

          • DrLefty

            By which you mean: Makes NO sense, especially when you have three other guys (Posey, Gillaspie, possibly Marrero) who can play 1B when needed and not many great OF options.

      • Baldheadslikk1

        dont get me started this morning shi.!

  • Michael Scott

    There’s nothing like some real good baseball talk. I think I’ll try it real soon.
    Goodnight all.

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    I realize the prospect of Matt Cain on the bump is scary,
    and that the Giants outfield is frightening, but holy smokes,
    ‘Get Out’ is one horrifying movie; and a darn well made one too.
    Probably one of the best horror genre movies I’ve seen.
    As for the Giants outfield…

    • DrLefty

      Yes! We saw that here in Seattle on Saturday. Amazing–can’t stop thinking about it.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        We certainly can’t give anything away. But I think it’s one of those movies you have to watch multiple times to catch all the references.

        • DrLefty

          I like movies that cross genres. Did you ever see “Hell or High Water?”–Great cops-and-robbers movie with a healthy dose of social commentary. This one, too, with the multiple levels.

    • HaakAway

      My25ManGuy™ detail … repost your changed/final list for me. I know you cut JR like I did so I know my current list is wrong. Gracias.

    • just peachy.

      I saw that movie a couple weeks ago and I’m still raving about it to friends. It was one of the best movies I’ve seen in recent years. It really said so much without having to say much at all. The musical score really added to the experience as well.

      • HaakAway

        You are going to give us some thoughts from Spring Training right?
        Big My25ManGuyQuestions™ seem to be:
        Nunez able to play INF? [11 put him on the DL]
        Gearrin [11 votes] vs. Ramirez [six votes]
        Hwang [12 votes] vs. Hill [13 votes]

        • DrLefty

          Per Baggs, looks like there’s a good chance Gearrin AND Ramirez make the team. The math goes thus:

          1. They like both and don’t want to lose either, and they think they would if either goes on waivers.
          2. The only bullpen guys with options are lefties (Blach and Okich).
          3. So to keep both Gearrin and Ramirez, they need to send a reliever to AAA. But keeping both means they have six righties (Melancon, Law, Strickland, Kontos, and those two).
          4. They still need two lefties in the pen.
          5. Because of off-days, they feel that they can use Blach out of the bullpen in early games and still let him be the fifth starter. In other words, Blach fills two roles on the 25-man roster–lefty reliever and fifth starter.
          6. So the Cain/Blach battle may get resolved not on its own merits but on Neil Ramirez’s strong spring showing.

          Fascinating.

          • HaakAway

            Blach … that plan fits the My25ManGuy predictions: 20 votes for Blach and 22 for Cain [out of 28 of us] so many see something like you said. I do not have Gearrin or Ramirez as I am sticking with Osich, Okert, Blach plus the givens of Kontos, Law, Strickland, Melancon,

        • just peachy.

          Of course! Heading to the ballpark soon.

          • HaakAway

            Enjoy the atmosphere; we found a fun spot standing behind the Right Field foul pole if you want a change … nice breeze there and a view of the practice field. Share some thoughts tonight but just enjoy Being There for now.

  • earlytimes

    Well, it’s pretty damn depressing if were excited about a bleeping D’Aza reunion. He hit a robust .205 last yr and will be 33 next mo. Surely there’s someone better younger out there.

    • DrLefty

      Excited? No. Better than Gorkys? Strong maybe.

      The “somebody younger” is Steve Duggar, and I’m not going to be surprised if he’s playing some CF for the Giants later this season.

      • HaakAway

        “better younger” fits OurGuy Duggar and I wanted to respond with him here too.
        Since they are probably keeping a Ruggiano/Marrero as their MorseTypeGuy™ then Gorkys is in for speed, defense and hopes that his .324 September will return.

  • Baldheadslikk1

    Brian Sabean where are you my friend oust Bobby Evans from the position of GM of my beloved SFGs i know that you kind of oversee things but it aint the same please get him out of there quick fast and in a hurry because he has no idea whats he’s doing! Grabbing any and everyone he can with hopes of someone doing something is horrible GMing and im sick of his crappy KNBR performances he needs to go soon.

    • Peter Johnson

      Sabean did the same thing, and they work together Sabean is in on all those decisions

      • Baldheadslikk1

        but pete i feel like his decisions wld be better if he were leading the charge

        • Peter Johnson

          Wrong , budget is why the Giants are dumpster diving , over luxury tax , so looking for cheap fixes for the roster .

          • Baldheadslikk1

            cheap fixes and 10 dollars for a puny ass hot dog

        • Giants54

          Evans is doing fine. Sabean had his share of f ups.

          • Baldheadslikk1

            evans is doing fine lololololol

    • DrLefty

      LOL at “sick of his crappy KNBR performances.” If we were firing Giants for THAT, Sergio Romo (zzzzzzz) would have been gone YEARS ago.

      • Baldheadslikk1

        he fumbles around on radio i swear i turn the station when he’s on then turn back when i think he’s finished

        • DrLefty

          Kinda like my hubbs and that “Kars 4 Kids” ad.

          • Keep’n It Real

            I’m with Mr. Lefty on that one!

          • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

            That commercial still comes on lol?

  • Alphonse and Gastone + Laurel and Hardy + Abbott and Costello all wrapped into one

    http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/03/25/220944530/video-hilarious-fubon-guardians-dropped-catch

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