Spring Training 2017: Giants Face Cubs in Mesa

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Greek Giant

Matt Cain faces Jake Arrieta in Mesa as the Giants complete their Cactus League schedule. Roster decisions loom for Bochy and his staff.

Help me Ty Blach. You’re my only hope!

Game time is 1:05 Barry Bonds time.

Yesterday, the Giants scored 14 runs in a winning effort with the possible opening day line up. MadBum was awesome. I am feeling fine.

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  • totalfan62

    Giants/Cubs on MLB Network. Sure hope Cain doesn’t embarrass us.

  • Matthew

    Spanorama! I’m doing a Footy dance!

    • Mr. Sarcastic

      I’ve been telling everyone all along not to give up on that guy …

      • Matthew

        I love Mr. March!

    • valleyfloorryan

      He must’ve hit a fastball right down heart of plate. Let’s get this game over by 2:45.

      • Matthew

        I’m changing my name to valleydancefloorryan

    • DrLefty

      I’m seriously thinking of picking him for MyGuy™ this year. With his low WAR last year, he’s primed to give me a competitive edge…I mean, give the GIANTS a competitive edge.

      • ROAR

      • Bapah

        I used that same strategy with Pagan and Cain last year. Really worked great for me.

        NOT

  • valleyfloorryan

    I believe Dalkowski is The Oracle’s guy – at least that was where I first heard the name, and a few times after the first. He appeared in Fastball, right? Or was that another fastball documentary?

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/28/the-sasquatch-of-the-fastball-white-lightning-remains-part-of-baseball-mythology/

    • The Oracle

      A lot of people who saw him thought he was the hardest thrower ever.

      • valleyfloorryan

        It has taken me a while to come to grips with the fact that there have been throwers and pitchers that threw signicantly harder than 100 mph. And Nolan Ryan and Bob Feller may very well have thrown 108 and 106 respectively. From there, it seems just as likely that some freakish guy could throw 110-115 mph.

        • The Oracle

          Did you agree with the calculations they used in the documentary? I think the possible question mark would be whether the distances they attributed to the prior measurements were accurate.

          • The Oracle

            And, of course, whether the methods used to measure the fastballs of Ryan and Feller actually yielded accurate results.

          • valleyfloorryan

            even though it was under the guise of being scientific, I had a nagging skeptical feeling.

  • Matthew

    Loved the Pence Glare out at that certified douchebag on that brushback

    • DrLefty

      I wonder if he remembers that it was a Cubs’ pitcher who broke his wrist in spring training and knocked him out for months two years ago?

      • Matthew

        Was it? Thought it was a A’s guy…

        • DrLefty

          Nope, Cubs. They even mentioned it on the Cubs’ broadcast when Pence was hitting.

          • Matthew

            Gotcha. Another endearing fact

      • radicalpro

        You have a great memory for detail (unless you looked it up just now)

        • DrLefty

          No, I remembered. It was a AA guy who felt awful and apologized to Pence on Twitter. Later that season, Arrieta beaned Aoki and gave him the concussion that ultimately ended his season.

          I also remember it was Dodger pitchers who broke Belt’s thumb and Aoki’s leg.

          • 610nm

            I remembered it was a stupid Cub, and Google knows the rest:
            2015 camp, the Cub was Corey Black who went to AA level in 2015, reached Iowa (AAA) briefly last year, was sent back to AA to end last season.

            People say the WBC is “dangerous” but honestly, at least there the pitchers are better experienced than Mr. Black.

          • DrLefty

            I’ve noticed that since that happened to Pence, Bochy’s never had one of his starters play deep enough into a spring game to face some AA wild thing again. When we were there a couple weeks ago, the opposing reliever was so wild I thought he might kill someone. But at that point it was all NRIs and minor leaguers hitting for the Giants.

      • livfreerdi

        Very disappointed they never exacted revenge. Today would be as good a day as any

  • Matthew

    I hate Len Kasper.

    • Matthew

      And the hate grows with each ashwipe comment

  • Matthew

    DeShaies loves Gillaspie’s large knob. Good to know

  • just peachy.
  • just peachy.

    Some kid spilled ice cream on me so I got free beer from their dad. Score!

  • channelclemente

    Season performance predicted from ST metrics. It’s surprising on how well the Giants performed, being best in ST baseball on some like Defense.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/spring-training-divisional-outlook-national-league-west/

  • channelclemente

    Is that the cleanest inning Cain has had all Spring?

    • Michael Scott

      No.

      • Peter Johnson

        He is your #5 starter, glad to know that, never know with you , you talk from both sides of your mouth, and love to talk down to others, that have honest opinions that disagree with yours .

      • channelclemente

        LOL. Don’t call for a vote.

  • Matthew

    Footy! I’ve seen the light! And, it illuminates Leadoff Magic!!!!!

    • Matthew

      SpaaaaaaaaAAaaaan

  • DrLefty

    We ain’t scared of youse, Err-ieta.

    • Matthew

      Sorry…mine was tad over the top

      • DrLefty

        LOL

      • JStreet

        A tad?

  • Matthew

    HOW IS THAT YOGA TREATING YOU, ANALFACE McUGLY????

    • Bapah

      Is this one you had left over from 6th grade?

      • Matthew

        I’m still in the 6th grade on the Maturity Scale

  • Matthew

    Cainer dealing!

    • 610nm

      Do you know what velocity he is getting today?

      • Matthew

        About 63…. but it’s darting all over

        (Actually looks mid 80’s or so, but he’s changing speeds and hitting spots)

      • Bapah

        88ish, but hit 90 on a couple

  • Michael Scott

    Pretty good imitation of a lead-off hitter today.

    • channelclemente

      2nd, 3rd time through test upcoming. I wonder what his pitch count target is , 80ish?

      • Michael Scott

        Sorry, even if he does nothing the rest of the game, it’s already a plus day for him.

        • channelclemente

          Maybe, if he gets through 6, it’ll be a plus plus day.

          • Michael Scott

            My comment was about Span.

          • channelclemente

            Span’s doing well. I wonder if he’ll have the slow start this year, or pick it up from the get go?

          • Michael Scott

            I’m talking about today. As far as what he might do once the regular season starts, we don’t know that about any of the players. I have stuff to do now, later.

          • channelclemente

            Have a good one.

  • livfreerdi

    They need to call more swings on check swings, honestly.

    • Peter Johnson

      Nope

      • Pitchers win the battle 7 out of 10 times vs hitters trying to hit a round ball and square it up

    • 22’sSweetSwing

      Right because there is too offense in baseball.

  • JStreet

    You never know, you just might get to see…

  • Anybody listening to either the Cubs/mlb.com or the Giants mlb.com announcers – should now build a shrine to Kruke – Kuip – Jon and Flemm.

    🙂

    • DrLefty

      It was Joe Ritzo on mlb.com yesterday…I thought he did a great job.

      • My error = mlb.com for the Cubs currently RE the shrine. Joe did a great job yesterday and is doing same now. I had not been able to “change the feed” until now 🙂

    • JStreet

      That is beyond dispute, Mr Lon.

  • That is how the Matt Cain games go – a lead off bad hopper with the Horse now in the stretch ….

  • We HAVE seen this before ….

  • DrLefty

    ….aaaaaand, we’re back where we always are–can’t put a guy away, grooves one.

    • Yep, and that is a “in the stretch gizmo”

    • livfreerdi

      A lot of people have said he needs to learn to work down in the zone because the fastball lacks life … dont know if it’s true, but he’s not doing it

    • channelclemente

      He didn’t so much groove it, as it just moved back over the plate. He and pitching from the stretch haven’t been good friends for sure.

  • Pitches Best Friend Right here ……

  • JStreet

    Dammit. I really liked the way the ball was coming out of his hand.

    And the hitters seem to enjoy the way it comes out of the park.

    • Well that’s right Lon, Russ and I were just discussing that with Bill Thompson

  • Nice that Cain took something off the ball and got Heyward on his front foot ….for an out

    • livfreerdi

      Made him look bad the first time, too. I still think he’s figuring it out, but who the hell knows

      • Peter Johnson

        Everybody makes Heyward look bad .

        • livfreerdi

          Yeah, but a minor leaguer went deep, so …

        • Yea, PJ – that’s why he’s one of only 750 players in the Show

  • JStreet

    Dunno. Looks like his fastball is really moving today, “outta here.”

  • Guess with a name like Chesny – you can either be a ball player or country western singer. Ritzo tweated me that Cain felt sorry for Chesny – since he’s going to AAA – and Cainer coughed up a gofer ball.

    (Cain trying not to go WITH Chesny )

    • Matthew

      No Jersey, No Cleats, No Service

  • Beede gets a thrill in the Bridge to Bridge with the start on Saturday. Moore is gonna stay in ARZ

  • 90mph in the eyes for that K (above the hands)

    • livfreerdi

      Always thought Montero had a relatively big hole … then again, most guys have one there!

    • JStreet

      Be a good name for a song, “90 mph In The Eyes”.

      Got a good beat, you can dance to it, I’ll give it about a 79.

      • valleyfloorryan

        Didn’t Hall & Oates have one like that?

        • JStreet

          Might be, I remember Jefferson Airplane on their second album had one called 3/5 of a Mile In Ten Seconds. I think.

    • valleyfloorryan

      That’s terrible. I would have gone with “Cutty” from ‘The Wire’, but you know what say about saying so and so looks like so and so…

  • DrLefty

    Wait, is that BRETT Anderson who’s going to be the fifth starter for the Cubs? Yeeeesshhh.

  • valleyfloorryan

    Why is this game only in the fifth? And if Arrieta throwing strikes and batters are swinging early in the count, why does Belt have a hat trick and why have Pence and Tommy K’d twice?

    How is the cause-for-concern-meter with Hunter Pence?

    • Peter Johnson

      Very high on Pence, and Belt just being Belt !

  • 74 TP through 4. Baseball ‘bible’ says 60 = +14. He may need the bullpen soon…..or not….

  • valleyfloorryan

    And by the way Mrs. Lincoln, how does Matt Cain look today?

    • Peter Johnson

      Great as long as nobody gets on base .

      • valleyfloorryan

        Good report. I can understand that.

    • Matthew

      Madduxian! … dukey, lots of movement, even ratcheted up some heat a few times. Looks much improved on hitting his spots today. He’s no Blach, but he certainly looks good

      • valleyfloorryan

        Well, when Ty Blach logs close to 2000 IP in the Bigs with 100+ wins and 3.57 ERA, plus some postseason magic, he too can have a feather in his cap

        • Matthew

          It doesn’t work that way….it’s a heartless job environment, floorian

      • livfreerdi

        I”m not all in on Blach until I see him handle a righty-laden lineup. If that has to happen in SD, then fine

        • Matthew

          most strong clubs have plenty of both lefties and righties.

        • valleyfloorryan

          I believe that once big league hitters pick up his release, they will hit him around a bit. He relies on contact, mostly the airborne variety. We’ll know a lot more after he logs another 50 IP.

          • Matthew

            I believe it’s gonna be Beede by July or so…

          • valleyfloorryan

            He may be in a for a AAA surprise. Beede was the beneficiary of his home yard last year. His road splits were not that impressive. A lot of baserunners. Sacramento is a favorable environment, but the rest of the division will be quite a test. Command is his biggest bugaboo and that doesn’t necessarily mean walking guys.

          • Matthew

            I can’t fingered your analysis consistency out.

            Who you like for the 5?

      • JStreet

        I like the way the ball comes out of his hand.
        Now if it just stays in the park..

    • channelclemente

      He’s made one bad pitch.

  • Keep’n It Real

    Someone was at the front of the “looks challenged” line and someone was at the very back of the same line.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/685e0074ca853931eb2ebbf4e8068d717da0a6f3456dd8bd284085f1c4a69d58.jpg

  • Matthew

    Hit with the Cain Stick

    • Mr. Sarcastic

      That’s your #5 starter right there!!

    • In truth throwing that PG may have been his buggaboo …

      • Matthew

        It wasn’t that many pitches, was it? Why would that game have changed things?

        • Ultimate expectations ….. and LOL —- it brought out the 20M contract

  • just peachy.

    Heard at the ballpark: “wait did Cain just double?”

  • Well…..that does it…..batting 8th your #5 “Chucker” – err….”Hurler”. Matthew Thomas Big Sugar Cain

    • valleyfloorryan

      Cain can hit a bit, no?

    • buyselltrade

      Cain is having a good day today, pitching and now hitting.

  • Matthew

    That was a pitiful White Guys Can’t Dance exhibition

  • Bull pen game as of now – if – this were the regular season

    • Matthew

      He’s at 95 pitches…they looking to get him to the century?

  • channelclemente

    Good outing for Cain, against a very good hitting team.

  • Bapah

    Osich looks ready

    • Panda Puffs are Delicious

      Ready for AAA?

      • Bapah

        He wasn’t on my ODR list and neither was Ruggiano

    • Matthew

      Ruggiano looks ready, too

      • paul in p.v.

        There’s a reason los Gs found him in the dumpster.

  • Matthew

    Osich missing spots again…keep the ball down, Beaver

  • just peachy.

    Grrr

  • channelclemente

    Lestella hit a grooved 4 seam.

  • Osich doing his best imitation of Dan Runzler

    • Matthew

      Runzler…Kickham…and a lefty version of Mazzaro

  • DrLefty

    I am officially done with Josh Osich.

    • #Bookmark-March-28th-2017-Tuesday

    • Bapah

      I’m glad I initially had 21 pitchers on my ODR. It was easy for me to cut him.

    • channelclemente

      From the spring in Bochy’s step, he might be too.

    • livfreerdi

      I always like how the boomer comes on the first pitch after the coach shares his wisdom. What would have happened if he didn’t go out?

  • And……….they all score ….

    • DrLefty

      Not the guy on first. Ground-rule double–Osich lucked out.

      • Matthew

        That was a routine fly ball, though

        • DrLefty

          Until it wasn’t

      • channelclemente

        LOL. Like Jonah.

        • Bapah

          Arenado?

          • channelclemente

            Whale.

      • livfreerdi

        bad baseball rule

      • ……..well….he hit the ball….usually when Miller uses his “they all score” its like a bases clearing double where the bags were full

        • DrLefty

          Usually when the announcer says “They all score,” it’s because they all score. If one runner has to stop at third, they don’t all score.

          • I will throw it out to the crowd but then the only way your way works is a inside the park home run…..

            Scenario: Bases loaded….Hitter hits a single up the gap that the OF boots and then as he throws it back in it is botched again and they all score.

            The “They all score” should not include the batter runner

    • Matthew

      He looked like David Ross on Dancing With The Stars

  • just peachy.

    Double grrr

  • doobieibood

    That will not go in the right fielding defense hall of fame.

  • Matthew

    OK, Kasper Fack You, you blot of feces

    • DrLefty

      “Wasn’t it 5-2 Giants going to the ninth last October…?”

      Yeah, I didn’t like that, either.

    • Bapah

      Stop holding back.

      • Matthew

        In respect to easily offended TWG readers, I’ll continue to leave the governor on my commentary

    • That has MASH unit written all over it with Hot Lips Houlihan having the shower hot water turned off by Corporal Max Klinger

  • RobDeer

    Between Cain’s start and Osich’s meltdown is there any doubt that Cain will be in the rotation with Blach in the bullpen?

    • Matthew

      Nope. Seems locked

    • DrLefty

      Osich’s meltdown might be more the issue than what Cain did. But Baggs was signaling that he might have been going down to AAA, anyway.

      • channelclemente

        He mooned the pen???

      • Keep’n It Real

        (Future Broadcast)

        Tonight on KCRA News…an unidentified woman was escorted out of Raley’s Field for…what sources are telling us…yelling less-than-positive comments at the Rivercats’ Josh Osich…as he was warming up in the bullpen. When asked what the problem was, the unidentified woman was heard saying, “I’m done with Josh Osich! He can’t get a Lefty (hmmmm) out, if his life depended on it! He sucks!!!” :-))

        • DrLefty

          Later, she reflected: “Maybe we shouldn’t have stopped for those Moscow Mules before heading to the game.”

          • Keep’n It Real

            LOL

    • Bapah

      I hope my preseason prediction about Cain holds true. I think Lefty’s right, Osich has been destined for weeks to live in Sacto.

      • ….in his RV motor home. Big fan of Rod Beck – Osich is and he likes nothing more than parking it in some desolate spot – getting out his Huntin’ Rifle and a pinch between cheek and gum …and ….

        • Bapah

          If he gets back to the show, he and Strick9 should bunk with their 30.06s.

    • N
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      • DrLefty

        There is still a good deal of doubt. If they keep both Cain and Blach, they’ll have to cut either Gearrin or Ramirez, and per Baggs on Sunday, they may not want to do that. He suggested Blach might play dual roles–lefty reliever and fifth starter–with Cain in AAA, either on the DL or optioned. If they keep Cain, then have Blach either in the bullpen or the minors, that means either (a) they only have one bullpen lefty (Blach in AAA) or (b) that Gearrin or Ramirez gets the ax. It’s a math problem.

        I have no idea what they’ll decide to do, but Cain is far from a sure thing to make the team out of camp.

        • Bapah

          I think today was a Rolaids day for Boch and Evie concerning Cain.

          • Soon, when Cain pitches Boch will wear that one hat with straws attached directly into his mouth with Malox

        • buyselltrade

          I am more than willing to risk Gearrin or Ramirez and think Ramirez the better of the two now.

          I like the thought of Blach as LH (long) RP and occasionally used 5th starter to open the season and Cain at AAA or DLed.

          • Bapah

            Gearrin will be gobbled up in a heartbeat.

          • DrLefty

            So would Ramirez.

          • Bapah

            Maybe 13 pitchers WILL happen.

    • buyselltrade

      I never had Osich making the opening day line up so Blach may well be another left hand in the bullpen.

      Sort of a better Cain start but probably the Giants have several young starters to cycle through to find with better results (including Bach).

  • Whose this ‘Blister’ ? Diane Cannon?

  • Matthew

    Since they are breaking camp today, I suppose we will see some cuts later?

    • Peter Johnson

      no.

    • Bapah

      Maybe not until O.co.

    • DrLefty

      They said they’re taking everyone north, but I think they also said they’ll announce who’s made the team today(?).

      • Matthew

        Why would they do that? Extra seats on the charter??

        • DrLefty

          They don’t want to overwork anyone in exhibition games. They usually bring some minor leaguers who’ve already been cut, too–e.g., Beede’s starting on Saturday in Oakland.

          • RobDeer

            Yeah, already thinking that Saturday game vs Oakland will be a bench game. Pretty ridiculous really that they’re playing in Oakland a day before opening the season in AZ.

          • DrLefty

            $$$$$

          • RobDeer

            I get it. They always end ST with this Thurs, Fri in SF and Sat in Oak format, but I hate that we go straight to AZ for a 1pm start Sunday.

          • Bapah

            It might be appropriate for an all AAA lineup against the AAAs.

          • RobDeer

            Can we fly all the regulars to AZ Friday night?

          • DrLefty

            It’s gotta be funny–spend seven weeks there, leave for four days, fly back for five.

          • Bapah

            Do you remember the old qualifier? Funny Peculiar, not Funny HaHa

          • DrLefty

            Yes. At least they know where to go eat (again).

      • How’s Matt Duffy’s latest injury?

        • DrLefty

          Won’t be ready for Opening Day. From what I read, the problem is not his Achilles itself, but the muscles and ligaments above it that atrophied after the surgery. Poor guy. Things were going great and then he just got derailed (and moved).

          • Bapah

            Whoa. I thought there were complaints about the attachment point in the foot, not atrophy. That’s too bad, but it is less troublesome in the long run than the former.

          • Bapah

            Baseball shouldn’t ever be played on a parking lot.

  • Matthew

    That was Osich-like

    • DrLefty

      Yep. Two bad appearances in a row for him now. We are so screwed without Will Smith. Huge bummer.

      • Matthew

        Let’s trade Trevor Brown for Zach Britton

        • You need a cold wash rag on your brow

          • Bapah

            Ball-peen.

          • Matthew

            Ouch.

          • Bapah

            No, Sir, you won’t feel a thing.

          • Matthew

            Well, that makes it way better!

          • Bapah

            Won’t remember it either.

      • livfreerdi

        They will miss Smith, but they have him overrated. He’s no lockdown 8th inning guy either.

        • He’s not over-rated if you ask the other 29 managers in ML baseball

          • channelclemente

            That’s bait fish.

          • and a true statement as well ….

        • The Oracle

          Smith threw 18 1/3 innings with the Giants last season, allowing only 13 hits while striking out 26. He didn’t give up any home runs. He didn’t allow a run over his last 18 appearances. Of all the relievers who saw significant time with the Giants last season, he was the hardest to hit and had, by far, the highest Ks per innings pitched. His injury is a big loss for the team.

          • Michael Scott

            I’ve struggled with this, but I have to agree.

          • The Oracle

            We need to put an end to this disturbing trend of agreement. Don’t force me to make a political statement.

      • And Will Smith was met with a wishy-washing type welcome here when he arrived last year….

        • channelclemente

          A 10+ ERA will do that.

          • Matthew

            When was that? He was solid down the stretch

          • channelclemente

            He arrived here with a 10.8 ERA from the Brewers, and Bochy changed the way he was used completely.

          • Matthew

            I thought it was in the low 4’s??

          • The Oracle

            Smith having a 10+ ERA with Milwaukee and then Bochy miraculously turning him around with his brilliance was likely part of one of CC’s amorous Bochy dreams. He just got confused.

          • channelclemente

            You own the graph. LOL.

          • The Oracle

            Really…where did that Smith statement come from? Why would the Giants have traded for a pitcher with an ERA of 10?

          • The Oracle

            If anything, Bochy misused Smith, often using him like a loogy, when in reality he has reverse splits for his career. His effectiveness against RHB was likely one of the reasons they traded for him, and Bochy mostly ignored it.

          • The Oracle

            For someone who presents themselves as an analytical fan, with all the graphs and everything, you sometimes say things that have no basis in reality. Smith’s ERA with Milwaukee last season was 3.68. How much effort would it have taken to look that up before spouting off and being so wrong?

        • DrLefty

          Not from me. I always thought it was a good deal. Less good now that they won’t have him for a year-plus, though. 🙁

          • totalfan62

            Me either. A lot of folks dogged him after a couple of mediocre early outings, but I knew he had the goods. Bochy got down on him early, end of story.

    • channelclemente

      Okert, Osichlike, hardly.

  • Matthew

    Marrero is ridiculous

    • Skweezplay55

      This guy has to make the club or else what’s the use of spring training?

      • livfreerdi

        Right. Hill has to not make the team or ….

      • Michael Scott

        This name must be uttered yet again- Randy Elliott

    • DrLefty

      Two walk-offs…another ninth-inning come-from-behind homer–eight total, if you count the exhibition against PR.

      I WANT THAT ON OUR BENCH.

      • Michael Scott

        It’s possible.

    • paul in p.v.

      Skweez is absolutely correct. If Morse was a lock, how do you leave this guy off the roster?

      • Bapah

        He’s not ready yet. You make him better by letting him play and time to learn the culture.

        • paul in p.v.

          That’s exactly what Sabean said about Joe Panik and Adam Duvall.

          • Bapah

            In this case it’s more a cultural “not ready” than a skill not ready. But some of it is getting settled with this kind of baseball, i.e. US v. Japan.

          • paul in p.v.

            Bap – I think you’re referring to Hwang – and I’m referring to Marrero…

          • Bapah

            You’re correct

  • Bapah

    Wow

  • Mr. Sarcastic

    I’m fully on board the PJ train … Home runs are good.

  • just peachy.

    YEAH!!!! All the Cubs fans around me (who didn’t leave early) are not happy

  • channelclemente

    Johnson had his Osich moment.

    • livfreerdi

      Disdained the time-honored curve after the homerun routine and it cost him

  • Matthew

    This is just peachy!!!!!!

    • just peachy.

      I know right? 😁

  • DrLefty

    Best. Inning. Ever.

    –Peter Johnson, “Together We’re Giants.”

  • DrLefty

    LOL at the Giants fans taking over the Cubs’ park.

  • CaptBrewster

    Well now… Wasn’t that display of power fun. Who’da thunk it possible. Giants! Go!!

    • channelclemente

      Think of the mound opposition though. Nice, but no isle dancing.

      • CaptBrewster

        Yeah, sure, there is that… but no matter the specifics, ya gotta like a 3-run homer in the ninth, right?That’s always fun, from Babe Ruth to MLB, go-ahead homers in the ninth are the stuff of baseball dreams.

        • channelclemente

          Oh, I do. But I’m not going to come to expect it.

          • Bapah

            Good baseball should prevail most of the time.

  • Matthew

    Hwang is some serious DH material

  • Matthew

    Die, Kasper

    • Andres The Forever Giant

      I loved Jim Deshaies as one of my 1986 Astros stalwarts, but I despise his smugness as a Cubs announcer with the power of a thousand suns: “That was the rally they were looking for five months ago.” STFU, Jim!

  • channelclemente

    They’re never going to mistake Hwang for a late inning defensive replacement.

    • valleyfloorryan

      Here ya go, another look at some of his defensive capabilities:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01kxYy4-wOw

      • channelclemente

        I guess the years weighed on him hugely.

        • valleyfloorryan

          Nah. It helps to have a comfort zone and to be relaxed on D. His glove will come around.

          • channelclemente

            He’ll get a chance, but I don’t think as a defensive sub.

          • DrLefty

            It’s ironic that the two most exciting bats for the Giants this spring are unlikely to make the team.

          • channelclemente

            Maybe to start the season, but they’ll be back up almost certainly. April is going to be ugly, I fear, anyway.

          • Matthew

            Turning Stone To Leather – The Jae-Gyun Hwang Story

  • channelclemente
  • valleyfloorryan

    Prediction week !

    Grant Brisbee writes the national piece for SB Nation.

    Would you believe he has the Dodgers winning the West and the Giants losing to the Mets in the Wild Card game?

    Blasphemy!

    http://www.sbnation.com/a/mlb-2017-season-preview

    • Lunch_Box

      Sometimes, I can’t take that guy seriously so it’s hard to read his pieces.

    • DrLefty

      The SI article said the same thing, down to the Giants losing to the Mets in the Wild Card game. Considering that the WC game is practically a coin flip, how can you possibly say in March who’s going to win that ONE game?

  • earlytimes

    Well, it looks like my guy picks would be nearly all right if it was for who is going to Sac.

    • channelclemente

      Sounds like me, and my picks last year. This year I just folded during the shuffle before the hand was dealt..

  • DrLefty

    The Giants finished the Arizona portion of their spring schedule at 16-16 in the Cactus League and 17-16 if you count the win over PR, which I certainly do. That’s pretty good for a team that had an early 8-game tailspin, two of their best players gone for three weeks, one of their aces three weeks late to camp, and most of their regulars not hitting.

    I know the W-L record in spring doesn’t matter much, but getting in the habit of winning–especially come-from-behind wins–is good for a team. That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

    • Peter Johnson

      Problem is most of the beg his were from guys that should make the team , but probably will not .

      • DrLefty

        Alex’s story makes it sound like Marrero has a chance. If they were going to put Morse on the team, they should put Marrero on instead. They’re basically the same guy in terms of skill set and position.

        • Andres The Forever Giant

          Morse is ahead only on intangibles: big 2014 contributions and being Pence’s BFF and great in the clubhouse. Marrero is younger (28 v 35), so I hope he gets a chance with the big club! 🙂

          • DrLefty

            Well, and Morse has a much more extensive major league track record…but not lately.

          • Matthew

            That’s actually kind of “tangibles” when it’s 2014 contributions

        • Peter Johnson

          Hill, Gorkys, and Ruggiano, and Tomlinson, will be extra players, Giants will take Ruggiano over Marrero, because can stash Marrero in AAA , not Ruggiano

          • DrLefty

            They can stash Kelby in AAA too–they might go that way.

          • Peter Johnson

            They need a backup SS, Nunez is iffy.

        • paul in p.v.

          I agree. Some other brilliant poster does too (below).

    • Moooooooooose

      Whaddya mean doesn’t matter much? Are you kidding? These have been the most important games of the season. Every pitch matters. Not as much as the WBC maybe, but these games are massively important and someone besides the Giants are taking home the Spring Training Trophy!

      • Michael Scott

        Nothing matters anymore. I burnt dinner because of this dumb blog.

        • channelclemente

          Learn to delegate to the microwave, and a timer.

          • Moooooooooose

            A microwave? That’s like signing a consent form to be spied on!

          • channelclemente

            I don’t think Mike is a blond.

  • Michael Scott

    * Josh might have put Ramirez AND Gearrin on the roster. Or maybe Suarez.
    * IMO, as of now the bench would be- I dunno
    *Fed-Ex- sorry guy, no room up here.
    * Span-Rod- seems to like the 2nd half of anything
    * Vietnamese Sticky Chicken tonight
    *Matt? Hey, he was decent.

    • Peter Johnson

      Marrero, probably not making the team, has June deadline to be on MLB roster, so Giants will stash him in AAA, best clutch hitter by far in Spring what a joke !

      • HaakAway

        He makes it on my roster … use him like Morse in 2014?

        • Peter Johnson

          They would lose Ruggiano, and they like his glove better, and his experience, Giants do not like to lose assets if they can avoid it, Marrero is signed until June, and can go to AAA.

          • HaakAway

            I guess that is what makes it interesting but Ruggiano is hitting .487 SLG while Marrero is .672. I do not think Rugg would be in demand.

          • DrLefty

            I don’t either. He’s bounced around, and even if he goes elsewhere, they’ll still have Mac, Morse, Slater, Duggar, and Hwang in AAA. Plenty of other options with varying skill sets if they need reinforcements for the bench or the outfield.

    • Bapah

      By that you mean he wore pants and his fly was closed. He IS getting closer, though.

      • Michael Scott

        “By that you mean he wore pants and his fly was closed”.
        Yes, that is what I meant.

  • DrLefty

    From Schulman re Cain/fifth starter:

    Manager Bruce Bochy did not tip his hand and was not effusive about Cain’s start. The adjective he used was “improvement.”

    “He did a good job out there,” Bochy said. “He went through a tough lineup. He used his changeup today and he used his fastball effectively. He got his pitch count up. He’s healthy. Now it’s something we’ve got to discuss, what we’re going to do with the whole staff.”

    Also, the beat writers’ comments indicate that Jimmy Rollins has been told he isn’t making the team.

    • Bapah

      Boch is absolutely correct in his appraisal.

    • Moooooooooose

      “Now it’s something we’ve got to discuss, what we’re going to do with the whole staff.”

      According to The Oracle, that’s Bochy throwing his staff under the bus.

      • DrLefty

        The disingenuous part of that quote is that it makes it sound like they’re just now going to discuss it–like it hasn’t been THE biggest topic of conversation all spring, with the possible exception of Will Smith’s injury.

        • Matthew

          I’d rather they keep it in the clubhouse and not tell us until they have to…that plays way better in there with the players

          • Bapah

            Oh, I’m sure the team would like to hear what we have to say. You know how they care what we have to say every year. We’re very important and deserve to be heeded.

        • Michael Scott

          They have decisions to make. I really don’t see how that quote is disingenuous.

          • DrLefty

            I don’t think they’re hard decisions or that there’s any new information. One decent start by Cain (and he was charged with four runs in under six innings) does not erase the last three years. So either they’re going with Cain regardless–because of the contract and the history–or they’ve decided enough is enough and they’re going with Blach. Nothing has really changed since last fall.

          • Michael Scott

            Nothing that you have said makes his statement disingenuous, IMO. He was not being dishonest, as far as I can tell.
            I think that Ty deserves the spot but I’m not as down on Cain as many are.

          • DrLefty

            The quote made it sound like they were just going to start discussing the matter, future tense, on March 28. Since I’m certain they’ve been discussing this very thing, almost nonstop, for weeks if not months, that is why I called it disingenuous.

          • Michael Scott

            I think that there is more to it than just who gets the 5. A lot more . And no matter who gets it, it affects 1 or 2 pen jobs. And it may be FO decision, not Bochy’s.

        • The Oracle

          I think they only just now realized there are more candidates than there are rotation spots. They were blindsided.

  • radicalpro

    Didn’t see the game, but seems like Cain had some good with some bad. Considering his spring I guess this would be considered a solid start? 5.1 IP, 4ER does lower his ERA (sadly).

    • DrLefty

      It was better than some of his other ones. It still would be nice to see him pitch one or two games where he goes 5-6 innings and gives up zero runs or maybe just one.

      • Moooooooooose

        According to Loopiusfloorfootyryan, a certain Dodger pitcher who finally threw as many as 5 innings yeasterday (giving up 3 runs) was doing “quite well.”

        • DrLefty

          He was talking about Ryu, right? Ryu hasn’t thrown a pitch in a major league game since 2014. With him I think you’re just hoping his arm doesn’t fly off at the shoulder when he throws a pitch.

          • Moooooooooose

            Yup

          • Sgbssfg

            However, for fans of the zombie genre, that might be quite a treat

        • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

          Shake everything you’ve got!

      • Matthew

        I’m for Blach at the 5, but I honestly thought he threw the ball very well today

        • DrLefty

          I can go “better,” but I can’t go “threw very well” when he has four runs charged to him. (And yes, I know about Osich. I watched the game. Still.)

          • radicalpro

            So much for Osich taking the bull by the horns

    • Michael Scott

      He left with 2 runners on and Osich let them in. All in all, he looked good but if life was fair, Blach would the 5th starter. But life isn’t fair.

      • giantc

        He had already let in 3 runs when he left – Osich let in the fourth run. It was a typical Cain — okay for a few innings but don’t try and get him through the 6th inning. He is a bullpen killer.

        • Michael Scott

          So your comment was just to correct me on one run? I wasn’t endorsing him for the 5 spot, just noting that he actually pitched pretty well. Thanks for your input.

          • giantc

            You’re welcome.

  • DrLefty

    Baggarly says the decision about the fifth starter “is in the cards.” I have no idea what the hell that means.

    I’m getting bored with them being coy about this. The parameters are clear. Blach wins on style points, both for spring and last September/October. Cain wins on paycheck and nostalgia. Then there’s Will Smith’s injury, making Blach possibly needed out of the bullpen. None of this has changed in the last few weeks. What are they waiting for?

    • Baldheadslikk1

      Im starting to get tired of the Gs coy ways!

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    Believe it or not, I’m self-conscious about posting too many videos with older white dudes picking away on their axes. Now that the Cactus League is closed and the Giants are heading home and opening day is oh so close, it’s time to shake everything you’ve got!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABLwmYI09Lw

    • The Oracle

      I can believe it.

    • channelclemente

      What, noCharlie Pride?

    • Baldheadslikk1

      Thanks for sharing a video with some black talent my goodness! Im tired of looking at old white cats lmao!

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Shake everything you got !!

  • DrLefty

    These referees are ridiculous. 20 free throws to 2 in the first half? All the late whistles? Curry constantly held but called for a foul if he breathes in Harden’s direction?

    NBA officials are the worst.

    • Bapah

      Remember Tim Donaghy? He has a lot to say about how NBA officials work and how crooked they are.

      • DrLefty

        I certainly do. He was involved in that infamous Kings-Lakers Western Conference Final and also was on the crew when the “We Believe” Dubs were in the playoffs in ’07.

    • Skweezplay55

      just ridiculous — and still the Warriors win!! That was a pretty gutty win, start to finish. They got frustrated but never lost their poise. Even with all the breaks they got, HOU got a technical, not the Dubs. Regardless, great win!

      • DrLefty

        That was a great win. McAdoo goes down with a nasty fall, Draymond scares us to death with his ankle, refs terrible, and still they win, pretty much controlling the game from tip to final buzzer. The Warriors are on a nice roll right now. Will be interesting to see how they do in SA tonight, but again–the schedule. I read that this is the sixth straight time the Warriors have come to SA on the back end of a back-to-back.

        • Skweezplay55

          The NBA certainly must know by now that it has to reconsider this ridiculous scheduling. They’ve been embarrassed twice on their “showcase” games by teams resting their stars. Coaches and players get measured by championships, not by ratings two months before the playoffs.

    • Baldheadslikk1

      I blame the Warriors for not complaining all the time for opponents holding onto Curry! Complain til youre blue in the face with footage my goodness. L:ast nights video of Beverly holding Curry was so crazy.

      • DrLefty

        Apparently Kerr has taken it up with league before, with video footage. And yet.

        • Baldheadslikk1

          Ive heard that before yes but they should do it even more because it’s out of control Dr! If u stare at Harden to long they’ll call a foul on ya

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    How about predicting the Sacramento Rivercats roster?? Now we’re talking degree of difficult and huge prizes. These prizes are so huge they are going to make your head spin…

    Orlando Calixte SS/2B/CF
    Christian Arroyo 2B/3B/SS
    Austin Slater LF/CF/???
    Chris Marrero 1B/LF/DH
    Jae-Gyun Hwang 3B/LF
    Justin Ruggiano RF/CF/LF
    Ryder Jones DH/3B/1B
    Wynton Bernard CF
    Trevor Brown C

    Tyler Beede, Clayton Blackburn, Chris Stratton, Joan Gregorio, Albert Suarez, Matt Gage

    bench and pen???

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      can’t forget Hunter Cole in there somewhere as well. OF Log Jam!

      or Rando Moreno!

      • DrLefty

        And where’s Ricky Oropesa? I think he finished last season in AAA.

        • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

          1B/DH

        • The Oracle

          Possibly studying to take the test to be able to sell insurance.

          • Michael Scott

            Not a real good hit tool

    • Bapah

      They might be able to compete against many big league teams

    • DrLefty

      I’m still convinced Duggar is going to be the everyday CF in AAA. He’s one of their top prospects now. He raked during his half-season in AA–nothing more to prove there. The Giants apparently love him, and he had a nice camp.

      They’re not going to block Duggar’s progress to give playing time to Wynton Bernard.

      Pen will include Kyle Crick, Reyes Moronta (both already assigned to AAA), probably Osich. Curious to see where Tyler Cyr lands this season. He’s one of their more intriguing bullpen arms in the lower minors.

      Morse will be in AAA when his hammy permits. I assume Fed-Ex will be the other catcher.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Duggar will start 2017 in Richmond. I know he’s your guy, but that where he’s most likely headed to get everyday ABs, everyday CF, and to build upon his 60 game AA exposure. Hunter Cole, has also done well for himself in AA, He’s up over 180 games at that level. So maybe 40-80 more games for Duggar with Richmond. As for center in Sacramento, I assume fair run will be given to the likes of Slater, Ruggiano, Calixte, and Bernard, and maybe somebody else.

        • DrLefty

          We’ll see. If Duggar is their top CF prospect–and he absolutely is–he’s more important than any of those guys you mentioned, and Slater’s not a CF, anyway. We’re all hoping for a great bounceback year from Span, but what if he gets injured? Gorkys Hernandez, everyday CF for the Giants? Calixte, Ruggiano, and Bernard are filler, not competition.

          I’d agree with you if Duggar had “meh” AA stats like Arroyo did and Panik before him. But he had Duffy-like stats–and Duffy played half a year in AA and jumped right to the majors.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Matt Duffy with 97 games at AA
            Austin Slater with 95.

            So perhaps that is some sort of promotional guideline. But there’s always the case of necessity forcing advancement. And if Duggar picks ups right where left off with a high average showcase, then he could move quickly.

            As for Slater, no he’s not a CF, but it’s an OF spot for OFers to get ABs, which was the case for him last year, and probably some this year. Ruggiano will be interesting. Seems he’s on the cusp to get first call-up. Curious about how well he actually plays CF. Calixte is a wild card. I guess he’s a gifted athlete with a strong arm and could be an interesting super-utility piece. Bernard is career minor leaguer material.

          • 22’sSweetSwing

            I have to agree with foots. Sacramento is where guys go to tread water while waiting for a mlb injury (see all the AAAA talent there, guys old for the level). Development occurs in AA, especially for hitters in this organization. Some pitchers come here to prove they are ready for West coast climate and others to be showcased for trading.

          • Michael Scott

            There are exceptions but if a young prospect spends more a year in AAA, it’s not a real good sign.

          • DrLefty

            Beede and Arroyo, the Giants’ two top prospects, are going to be in AAA this year. So how is that “treading water”? Panik spent a half year there. Belt and Crawford spent some time there, and so did Posey, LIncecum, and Bumgarner back in the day. I agree that a lot of the AAA roster has been God’s Waiting Room, but this year, the Giants’ top prospects are in the upper, not lower minors, so why wouldn’t they be at the top level if there isn’t room for them in the majors yet?

            Duggar is the Giants’ #4 prospect. I still haven’t heard an argument as to why he shouldn’t be in AAA, just down the road in case there’s an emergency, not on the East Coast. The Giants have zero depth in CF other than Duggar. Ruggiano is not “depth”–he’s “desperation.” The other guys are dumpster dives.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            or 10th or 13th or 14th best prospect … B- prospect.

            If needed, because no other body can go the job, no reason he can’t skip AAA. It’s just that like the majority of prospects seasoning at the appropriate level is an important part of development. If he is at AAA, there’s going to be something like a dog fight for playing time among OFers.

            Hopefully Span and Hernandez don’t collide and break all at once. That would create an emergency. We need a CF! Who do we got? Shall we call up Duggar? Lemme think about it and weigh our options, don’t want to rush him, but if we have to, I guess we will…

            ps – don’t sleep on Ronnie Jebavy. Chances are that he’s a better defensive CF than Duggar. It’s hitting that was his problem last year. Maybe he figures some things out and leaps onto the prospect map.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Longenhagen Scouting Report:
            “A well manicured approach at the plate and excellent bat-to-ball skills have yielded excellent results at the plate for Duggar since his freshman season at Clemson. He was a career .299 hitter for the Tigers and has posted an identical mark as a pro while maintaining a high walk rate despite little game power. Duggar has good breaking ball recognition, strike-zone awareness and grinds out quality at-bats. He has a mature, all-fields approach to hitting and projects as a plus hitter at maturity. He’s a plus runner underway, but his speed doesn’t play that well on the bases nor in the field where not all evaluators are sold on him as a center fielder. Duggar only projects for 30 game power, and if he can’t stay in center field then a lot of pressure is going to be put on his hit tool and ability to reach base. Hitters without power are often pitched more aggressively at upper levels and it’s possible some of Duggar’s approach will be rendered moot as he continues to ascend. He has a plus arm and split time evenly between center and right field this year.

            I think Duggar’s band of potential outcomes is relatively narrow, something between a below-average regular and fourth outfielder. The bat-to-ball skills and approach are going to be of major-league quality while the arm and wheels should also be situational assets.”

          • paul in p.v.

            “A well manicured approach at the plate” – what a pile of crap.

          • PerSpeier35

            That guy’said other job is as a wine reviewer.

          • DrLefty

            What did the Longenhagen Report say about Matt Duffy before 2014 or 2015? Just saying.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Got ya. Many outcomes are possible, including successful every day CF.

          • DrLefty

            Guessing he didn’t predict 12 HRs, Gold Glove caliber defense at third, and Rookie of the Year runner-up. :-). Duffy was so fun to watch–hope things go gently and well with him. Great kid.

          • valleyfloorryan

            any pre-2015 Duffy predictions were tempered in the utility department. He probably should have been a B- prospect but was mostly acknowledged as a C+. His hitting to was late-emergent and carried over into 2015. I think most of the concerns were related to his build. What he did in 2016 was probably more in line with previous expectations:

            .258/.310/.357

            What will a healthy Duffy do in 2017? Will he get healthy? Will he recover his stroke that led to ROY runner-up?

          • DrLefty

            When we were at the SJ Giants game last year, Jebavy was in CF and Duggar was in RF. But that’s the first time I’ve heard Jebavy’s name all spring, and I saw Duggar playing for the Giants in Scottsdale.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            That’s right. Jebavy played CF over Duggar at SJ. The Giants drafted Jebavy one round ahead of Duggar. However, Jebavy has demonstrated limited patience at the plate and a high K rate. He’s got a little bit of pop. It’s possible he starts at San Jose and has to earn promotion to Richmond. Perhaps he replaces Duggar at Richmond when that happens.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            better speed too, swiped 24 bags last year.

          • paul in p.v.

            So is Ruggiano. Did you see him in RF today? (I know you did.)

          • DrLefty

            He hit a HR, though. That was nice.

          • Michael Scott

            The vets are needed, there are NEVER enough prospects to fill out a AAA roster. And they can help the kids. They are not trash.

          • paul in p.v.

            Duffman: .322. Won the BA crown and jumped to a ring.

    • Michael Scott

      I think that Ruggiano will be on the 25-man.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        My impression is that Hill is taking his gig. Unless Ruggiano is taking Gorkys spot, which is totally possible.

        • Michael Scott

          So who is your 5th OFer? Or don’t you have one?

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            If Gorkys is 4th, then the 5th would be who they felt like throwing out in LF on a given day between Hill and Tomlinson.

          • Michael Scott

            Maybe.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            Is Nunez a maybe? He’s sort of a lynch pin for some of this jazz.

          • Michael Scott

            We’ll see who gets cut. Lots of maybes right now.

    • Michael Scott

      So- give me your picks for the bench and pen. No trash.

      • Michael Scott

        They steal stuff.

  • channelclemente
  • Sgbssfg

    The talking heads on Baseball Tonight are discussing Grienke’s diminished velocity. Hmmm.

    • DrLefty

      He pitched today and averaged 88-89..hit 90 a couple times, and that’s it.

    • Bapah

      Getting Cained?

  • Matthew

    So…I may have missed it below here, but Alex said it’s official that Hill is in and Rollins is out

    • crawnik

      It is safe to yes, that is correct.

    • livfreerdi

      Unreal. They need offense. Hard to see what he did to make them think the guy with the sub 300 OBP and sub 370 SLG the last 3 seasons was not the guy they were getting.

      • Moooooooooose

        They would have signed the guy with the .400 OBP and .500 SLG, but he was busy getting paid $20M per year.

        • livfreerdi

          I get your point … but there were in house cheap options which much higher upside than 650 OPS. Hill has shown nothing over a very long time, and his spring was not good. Just wondering what’s up

          • Moooooooooose

            Where are those in house cheap options now?

          • giantc

            Tomlinson Marrero Hwang all have the potential to out perform Hill.

            Hill is who he is at this point — below replacement level.

          • Moooooooooose

            And all are in the organization, yes?

    • Anti-Lasorda

      Hill being in doesn’t bode well for Hwang or Kelby. Indications from the beats suggest Hwang is on the outside. I think that’s a mistake.

  • Michael Scott

    Does everybody left get to go to San Francisco or do they throw some of them off the plane en route? Before dinner.

  • crawnik

    Sharks back-in to a playoff spot. Edmonton beat L.A.

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      When do hockey playoffs start? I just know they last until June when it’s real hard to find ice on a pond.

      • crawnik

        Around mid-April.

      • Michael Scott

        There aren’t seasons anymore. It’s an eternity.

    • Matthew

      There are old, thin, and fragile. Forget stats, Marleau us terrible. Ward is old. Jumbo is slowing down. Braun is terrible. Martin is old…not close to last years level, and fading fast

      • crawnik

        You forgot that they have no sense of urgency either.

        • Matthew

          Marleau never has… they’ve always been too passive for my taste.

          • crawnik

            As much as I enjoy watching the Sharks, it is still unbelievable that they got to the Finals last year. They got lapped by Pittsburgh.

          • Peter Johnson

            HATER!!

          • Matthew

            That’s a convincing argument!

          • Peter Johnson

            500 Goals, record amount of Game winning goals, I think he is having a great year, Thorton is overrated, very slow makes lots of bad passes, turnovers, aged badly, Marleau as still fast .

          • Matthew

            When is the last time you ever saw Marleau get physical and fight for a puck, or for a teammate…he floats around and cherry picks goals. That sport demands toughness and energy. Guys that only show energy for glory goals divide teams…he’s the Carmelo Anthony of hockey

          • Bapah

            I used to play Backgammon with Gordie Howe; does that impress anyone?

        • Anti-Lasorda

          Regular season doesn’t matter for shit in the NHL.

  • pacman68

    Marrero has had a monster spring.

    • Michael Scott

      Lots of guys have had monster springs in the desert.

      • giantc

        One tied Harper for the lead in Spring HRs.

        • Michael Scott

          I wasn’t just talking about this spring. As to Marrero, he is a AAA hitter.

          • giantc

            Hernandez and Ruggiano have had opportunities and done little over the last few years. I don’t see the point in carrying both. I would take a flyer on Marrero to platoon with Parker.

            I also would not take Hill over Tomlinson as a bench player.

          • Michael Scott

            Valid points.

          • RobDeer

            How do we know this to be a fact?

          • Matthew

            Because Mr. Happy says so

          • Michael Scott

            Look at his record.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            For the record, I have no problem with you disposition.

            As for Marrero, he’s probably a more capable hitter than quite a few MLB players, it’s just that he’s limited defensively and not enough of a hitter to play 1B in MLB. But maybe he has a special year in 2017 and earns some big league scratch.

          • Michael Scott

            Who said something something about my disposition? Like I have a bad one?That I’m cranky and stuff like that? I’m okay with that.
            Marrero? I wouldn’t have a big problem with him making the team but I don’t see anything in his resume that thrills me.

          • Peter Johnson

            HATER!!!

      • Anti-Lasorda

        John Bowker

  • JStreet

    Marrero.

  • radicalpro

    “Have you met our closer?” ad starring, who else, Mark Melancon.
    http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/03/28/221343820/video-mark-melancon-trolls-his-teammates

    At first I thought it’s kinda cute. Then I thought “I wonder if they’re unnecessarily putting high expectations on him.” Then I thought “I’m probably over analyzing”.

    Good luck to Melancon this season (and the next 3). I REALLY hope he locks down the 9th inning and settles the ‘pen down. I had enough of Bochy constantly walking out to the mound last year already.

    • The Oracle

      They’re necessarily putting high expectations on him. They’re paying him big money to be one of the best closers in the game.

    • 2holehitting

      Bochy walking to the mound in late inning games will never stop. The doctor told him he needed more exercise.

    • PerSpeier35

      Bochy still has the earlier innings to over do the pitching changes, nothing will change there, he likes that part of being the manager.

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      How well settled the pen will be from innings 6-8 remains to be seen. Losing Smith a tough blow. Hope that Okert is as advertised and that Law stays healthy.

      • Anti-Lasorda

        Smith was a lynch pin going into this year. Him and Strick slated to share the 8th with Law eventually taking over for Strick by season’s end. Now Osich and Okert have the stuff, but will one of them get the head to pitch the eighth. My money is on Okert. I saw him close in Sna Jose and I think he has the outlook for it.

  • winebaroness27

    Marrero = Duvall ??
    A guy that maybe could succeed with a different organization.?

    • Bapah

      No one’s perfect… even the Giants.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.
        • Bapah

          But… did he exist other than in the mind of Mike?

          • Bapah

            Er uh Leo.

          • Matthew

            Hey…I know Mike daVinci. Brilliant guy

          • Bapah

            A bit overshadowed by family.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            He has Crawford’s hair…

      • Anti-Lasorda

        Like Sister Kate used to say, the last perfect man she knew of they mounted on the cross and crucified him

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      Perhaps Marrero can get on base at a higher rate than Duvall while still hitting for power.

      • Peter Johnson

        Get over it , Hater !

    • earlytimes

      Well, this is his 5th different org.

  • steve k

    i never tire of this one..more old white guys for foots
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggeab0lKz2c

    • Bapah

      I miss Duane.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        I miss Ludwig.

        • JStreet

          They’re both jamming with a supergroup called — Ludwig Van Hendrix. Duane says there’s a lot of good players sitting in at any given moment.

          • valleyfloorryan

            This feels like a Wally Pipp moment.

      • totalfan62

        Me too. 46 years gone, the legend remains strong.

    • Bapah

      Sometimes restraint is the best example of excellence in rock guitar playing.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5B1Vfdk7W8&ab_channel=GionoYT

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Not just a white dude picking…. 😉

        Good stuff.

    • Anti-Lasorda

      I like Jessica better

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    It appears that Hank has his entries for Haak for the 25 man roster.

    Seems he has Marrero on the squad. No Tomlinson and no Osich…

    • earlytimes

      You’d think after all the effort to find a RH power guy, they will keep one of Marrero or Ruggiano while Morse rehabs. Ruggiano seems to have an edge D, but if they keep Gorkys, might not be a concern.

      • DrLefty

        Hank’s predicting Marrero. I don’t see how they can not keep him after the spring he’s had, even if he’s a placeholder for Morse.

        • Anti-Lasorda

          Marrero’s the most direct replacement of the Morse skill set. It would make sense if Parker starts in left as the tea leaves suggest.

        • crawnik

          I also have this feeling that they’ll go with Gearrin over Ramirez in the bullpen. Gearrin is out of options. Ramirez is on a minor-league deal despite having the better spring.

      • Matthew

        Ruggiano’s edge on D was in full display as he played Spin The Bat on that fly ball to RF yesterday

        • valleyfloorryan

          You are an enthusiastic support of the infinitesimally small sample size. What’s his broader track record? Can he play a competent CF?

          • Matthew

            I’m “an enthusiastic support” of making cute, snide comments.

          • valleyfloorryan

            That is indisputable. Usually a little smarmalade on the toast as well.

    • DrLefty

      Hank’s late. That was due March 25. Fifty points off for each day late.

      No, wait, that was my winter quarter grades!

      P.S. Also saw on Twitter that Ricky Oropesa is now an ex-Giant. 🙁

      • 610nm

        up arrow is for “50 points off” part, not the bad news for Oropesa.

        This may only work in physical sciences: I used to pass out the correct solutions to problems on the day they were due, so the students would not try to hand in any assignment late. After the first problem set, they knew this policy. But true enough, taking off points is something that gets students’ attention.

        • DrLefty

          Right–it was a writing class, so I assigned papers, and my policy was 10% off for each day (not class meeting) that it was late. So 10% off whatever the assignment was worth. They could also ask for an extension if they had a compelling/documented reason. But in the quarter system, it’s best for students and professor to enforce deadlines and keep things moving, or no one will ever catch up.

          • 610nm

            Students can sense any weakness, no? Yes, we have to be kind about extenuating circumstances, but University is hard, and they do indeed just have to keep up. It was always a bit depressing that “points” rather than “learning” seems to be their bigger motivator.
            My grad school days had quarters, but we went to semesters a long time ago. It is interesting that Davis still has quarters. There was some interesting flexibility there, we just divided year long classes like organic chemistry in three parts instead of two, but could offer some classes for just one quarter on shorter topics. And it wasn’t all bad for finals to come around three times, for keeping students at pace.

          • Bapah

            That’s the rub. Quarters weren’t/aren’t really quarters, were they? The quarter system was initially devised to have 4 equal sessions to provide more flexibility for students (and teachers) not wanting summers off, but other “quarters”. Hard to shake old ways.

          • 610nm

            The summer quarter was indeed very different. My inner mathemetician always had trouble thinking about a “year” coming in “three quarters”! There’s more or less no schools in the Midwest running on quarters anymore.

            As long as we’re chatting, did you see this?
            https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/27/science/fusion-power-plant-iter-france.html
            The Europeans are still trying the old contain plasma in a “flask” approach, which is kind of why I liked the NIF we talked about a while back, as a new approach. As always, the years when fusion will work are very far in the future.

          • Bapah

            I thought the tokamak was dead in the water. One thing I learned from that piece is after years of hearing about ITER, I learned (for the first time) it was pronounced, “Eater”. Well, we learn something every day.

          • 610nm

            me too! I had never heard “eater”. Well, somebody has bought off on the idea that with even more effort, a tokomak might work, because there is serious money in that project. I do feel like energy needs are so important that “invest in everything” is the right approach.

      • Michael Scott

        Losing Ricky didn’t ruin my morning.

      • totalfan62

        No surprise there. Another Chris Dominguez. They all can’t make it.

    • HaakAway

      Since March 25 you have a few games but no other moves that would give you any edge on what might happen right? I am glad some of our Experts are taking their shot; but you all were more gutsy to commit earlier.

    • Matthew

      you gonna link the Hank?

      • valleyfloorryan

        Twitter on the right. Multiple tweets

        • HaakAway

          I am close to Hank’s picks.
          I think Nunez starts on the retroactive DL and KT is in.
          I probably missed it but I took Osich over Gearrin or Ramirez.

        • Matthew

          where’s my outreach from a brother/cousin?

          OK, fine…I’ll do it myself

  • Baldheadslikk1

    Cains good outings go a long way with Bochy and company but the bad outings are just a part of spring! Losing so much respect for my teams management!

    • Anti-Lasorda

      Cain gets 5 starts. If it goes like Spring, Beede will be here in May. I have ZERO problem with the organization for all he’s done for the organization for 13 years giving Cain five starts when it really counts to earn or lose the job. That type of loyalty goes a long way in the clubhouse, and goes on to the clubs reputation. In the end the 1 or 2 games it may cost in the early standings will get repaid when the club adds someone in July as it is apt to do.

      Like everyone else I am really hoping for a Zito 2012 out of nowhere. We ALL had Z dead and buried before that start in Colorado, and then the next 9 months were magic and allowed one of the worst contracts in club history to be remembered fondly in the glow of two World Championships. I don’t expect a renaissance. Timmeh, Vogey, Peavey are all stark examples what that last 2 mph on a fastball mean to movement; and, Buster for all his skills has always seemed to struggle with resequencing when the pitchers patterns need to change. Maybe they find it this season, maybe Hundley caddies for Cain and the two find something Buster couldn’t….. if it happens I will stand and cheer loudly for one last hurrah for a good Giant. I don’t expect it though.

      And after I begrudgingly accept that it is no longer 2012, I stand in the mirror before I shave in the morning and notice the startling amount of grey in my beard. I will realize that father time is undefeated and cheer Tyler Beede and his promise for the rest of the season. I just want to put it off for 6 more months……

      Damn I hate feeling old.

      ~YMMV

      • giantc

        The Giants have shown loyalty for the last three years — his time is over. I love how giving up 4 runs in 5 1/3 innings is considered a positive start.

        Let’s see what the team’s record is over those five starts is and not to mention the damage he will do to the bullpen. If they go 1-4 in those starts and miss the playoffs by one game I hope we feel great that they gave him a chance when he hasn’t been effective for years.

        • Michael Scott

          What If Blach went 1-4 and they missed the playoffs by one game?

          • The Oracle

            The difference is that while there’s no guarantee of how Blach would do, Cain appears certain to fail.

          • channelclemente

            LOL. Interesting logic.

          • The Oracle

            Please tell us more about Smith’s ERA of 10 with the Brewers, and how the genius Bochy turned him around.

          • Mr. Sarcastic
          • The Oracle

            Nice. You can’t argue with a graph.

          • channelclemente

            …or the data it summarizes.

          • channelclemente

            This is a better one.

            https://i.imgur.com/t2xGFU5.png

          • 610nm

            Clever! Put in some noise, and it starts to look like “real data”. I had thought, though, that Mr. Sarcastic’s plot perfectly reflects these days of “fake news”.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            My chart was a very, very, beautiful chart. In fact, it was the best chart of all time. Period. It had more “up” votes than any other post in the history of TWG.

          • channelclemente

            To add some appreciation of that beauty, if you’re interested an good read. Moving averages aren’t always either useful or appropriate, but here, IMO, they’re quite appropriate.

            www2.esm.vt.edu/~sdross/frontiers/2014/papers/baseball.pdf

          • The Oracle

            Do you really not understand that these rolling graphs are meaningless? All baseball players go through ups and downs.

          • channelclemente

            LOL. That’s a POV. Not a very germaine one, but one nonetheless.

          • channelclemente

            Oh, come on, refer to your library, or Fangraphs. You can do it.

          • Michael Scott

            You didn’t really answer the question, but that’s OK. The premise was ridiculous anyway.

        • Anti-Lasorda

          I didn’t say it was positive, but between him and Marge wr may have a problem.

      • Peter Johnson

        The Giants will end up paying Cain 140 Million dollars , this crap about the Giants need to treat him with respect is BS!!

        • steve k

          i disagree with you, peter. i rooted for the giants for 55 years before their first championship, and then the 2 more in the next 4 years. all the a$$clown yankee fans here had lots of success, while i waited. even the mets won 2 times.

          matt cain was a big reason for those 3 trophies. i also remember staying up late to watch him pitch that perfecto. talk about exciting.

          he deserves to be treated with respect, and be given every chance to help the team, imo.

          • Peter Johnson

            Might want to look at his 2014 season stats again !

        • Anti-Lasorda

          Once a Peter, Always a (small) Johnson…

      • Michael Scott

        Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t spend much time worrying about things that haven’t happened yet.

      • 22’sSweetSwing

        5 starts and May are unlikely because of the few times the # 5 starter is needed in April, but 5 is the most realistic number I have seen this morning. Y’all must think Evans/Bochy is going to pull the plug way sooner than Sabean and I find that improbable. I’d love to be proven wrong though. I’m game to keep track of everyone’s guess and will be popping in here and advertising the fact. Winner will potentially get a bonus on their MyGuy score (I need to discuss this with the Commissioner).

  • earlytimes

    If he struggles, I’d predict Cain won’t get more than 2 starts. They won’t mess around with Blach Beede ready to go. A 4 game set with Bums April 24-27. I’d bet Blach starts one of those.

    • radicalpro

      I certainly hope it’s not any more than 2 starts. They wanna see what he has? Fine. He’s being paid $20M+ so that’s understandable. But if it gets to a point where the bullpen is getting taxed cause of him again and Bum/Cueto are throwing more innings to save the taxed bullpen and Bochy saying he threw well despite getting shellacked and Cain saying he felt good despite getting pummeled…..etc etc etc

      • radicalpro

        Edit: was Peavy too in taxing the bullpen last year

    • The Oracle

      If?

    • valleyfloorryan

      2 is a magic number I had in mind as well. If he gets lit up in back to back starts, they switch over to Blach. But if he has a QS in just one, then he will have bought himself some time.

      • Mr. Sarcastic

        My fear is that he won’t get hammered. He’ll be just mediocre enough to lose the game, but not horrific enough to warrant the immediate hook. 4 runs in 5 innings, that kind of thing. “He’s almost there! He’s thiiiiis close to finding it! Just a couple of bad pitches today (with runners on) …”
        Ugh.

        • Michael Scott

          This won’t be ST. If does as well as Suarez did last year, we should be fine. That goes for Blach as well.

    • DrLefty

      Schulman said this may be the best rotation at the beginning of the season that the Giants have had since the championship run began and the most starting pitcher depth in the Bochy era. Remember when the “depth” in 2012–behind a cratering Barry Zito in spring training–was Eric Surkamp, and then he had TJ surgery? And the “depth” in 2013 was Mike Kickham? Shudderrrrr.

  • Matthew

    earlytimes point makes me think of yet ANOTHER HaakAway challenge.

    MyRope

    How many starts does Matt Cain get in 2017???

    • radicalpro

      I hope no more than 3, but it’ll probably be like 10.

    • channelclemente

      6-8.

    • DrLefty

      How many ABs does Parker get before he’s replaced by Mac or Morse or Marrero or Hwang?

      • Bapah

        Uh…..2…

        • Bapah

          Many.

          • Matthew

            Embrace The Twitch

      • Matthew

        1,785

        (I’m optimistic)

      • paul in p.v.

        I think it depends on his K ratio, which spiked recently. IIRC he’s struck out 50% of his last 20 ABs, mas o menos.

  • valleyfloorryan

    Speaking of MyGuy competition, I can’t say I’m a big fan of the “net improvement” method and the inherent recondite scoring system involved.

    Do I just complain without offering a solution?

    What about some kind of roto-baseball competition that utilizes an allowance to select your team. For scoring, just statistics matter. For selecting a team, how you decide to use you pool of money is up to you.

    For instance, you may have a pool of 50 dollars, and players are worth different amounts (e.g. Buster and MadBum are 20 apiece, Crawford and Cueto 15, Gillaspie and Blach are 2 dollars – and some similar breakdown for prospects according to their ranking).

    You can blow your load on the best and hope for the best. Or distribute your wealth. At the end, only the raw stats matter.

    Does this fantasy format make sense?

    • 610nm

      I don’t know what the format should be, but agree the “improvement” is strange. In the entire history of MyGuy, no one has ever picked Madison Bumgarner. Something strange about that, indeed, for he is OurGuyOnAHorse (or with a bull).

      • channelclemente

        ..and an axe.

        • DrLefty

          Sounds like a guess when you’re playing “Clue.”

          • channelclemente

            LOL. Only sometimes am I ‘clue-less’.

          • Matthew

            You’re a Colonel Mustard in the Library with a Graph

    • Matthew

      You should start a new company! ValleyfloorryanDuel! DraftyRyanKings!

      • channelclemente

        He should start growing weed, and chickens.

        • totalfan62

          I thought he already did. 😉

          • Matthew

            Nope…he only smokes them both now

          • Bapah

            Smokes chickens? Oh, yeah, right. I was wondering about how the hell he rolls them.

          • Matthew

            in flour tortillas , i believe

          • 610nm

            go easy on the salsa, which slows combustion too much.

          • Bapah

            Feathers provide an accelerant and by the way, tell Matthew to get plucked.

    • Panda Puffs are Delicious

      So you want to do an auction style draft? I would be down for something like that

      • 610nm

        I didn’t think enough in my reply. Of course this has to be something that is easy for Haak and also 22’s swing to keep track of, and score – Haak is the Commissioner!

        • HaakAway

          I have thought of the Fantasy Baseball approach and I suppose some of us could form a league and have it scored by a program that exists. Not any work except getting enough into it to make a league.

          It is not what I am interested in though as it would really have nothing to do with Prospects or MLB players that we think are going to have a Comeback Year.

          No reason we cannot have both as part of the discussion here and it would not bother me if someone wants to organize and promote that.

          • DrLefty

            The easiest thing would be to go with that year’s WAR–maybe an average of Fangraphs and BB Ref since they measure different things–rather than improvement. For minor leaguers, whatever you use now + bonus for promotion, but for the current year.

          • HaakAway

            That would be simpler for 22SweetSwing …
            Minor League: straight wRC+ for this year and no comparing to last year. [No WAR available]
            MLB: straight WAR [but that means we all pick Bum and Buster]

          • Bapah

            I still like forecasting improvement.

          • HaakAway

            I have to land there too.
            Improvement makes you look at how the player did last year and forecast this year. That means doing some reading and research [which draws you in to a deeper process … a good thing.]
            High Score tends to make you grab the high picks and count on someone else’s thinking [not as engaging]

          • Bapah

            It rewards a good eye.

          • Bapah

            and, perhaps, one’s better understanding of professional baseball.

          • 22’sSweetSwing

            That was the point, find the diamond in the rough of the Giant’s farm system.

          • DrLefty

            There’s an element of risk, though, even if you pick the obvious guys–if someone had picked Buster in 2011…or Lincecum in 2012…

            OPS+ or wRC+ for hitters? ERA+ for pitchers?

      • valleyfloorryan

        Maybe 8-16 people with enough interest could form an independent league on one of those sites. I’d be down with that. Wouldn’t have to be all Giants. I’ve never done fantasy baseball, but I’m down to try.

    • HaakAway

      I agree that the current method makes more of Improvement from last year over general potential and therefore allows weaker players to score big in any given year.

      Good discussion to have but Fantasy drafting does not help this.
      How else can we score this so the best prospects get the best scores?

      • Skweezplay55

        The way I see it, MyGuy is less a fantasy competition and more a contest to spot up and coming talent. You can play fantasy anywhere — draft your team and off you go — but MyGuy is pretty unique. Who are the young players that will have eye-opening seasons this year? That’s what MyGuy is all about, I think. A better way to score it? Sure, if someone can dream it up.

    • Bapah

      You talk like this is some sort of game to you.
      This is not a GAME.
      This is important. This is life and… the other thing.
      Where do you get off thinking this is some sort of GAME? Jeez.

    • 22’sSweetSwing

      You don’t like the game? Don’t play. Thanks for suggesting a different game, but don’t try to change the point of the game – determining who is the best of the of bad lot that is the Giants farm system.

  • Michael Scott

    Maybe we shouldn’t be focusing on Cain or Blach,Blach or Cain. Ty wasn’t missing too many bats this spring. Beede could upset the apple cart if he has a good outing on Friday or at least put Matt or Blach on the spot get it done, like NOW.

    • DrLefty

      It’s a good point. I was looking at the ST stats, and as bad as Cain’s are (ERA, WHIP, average against), Blach’s are not that pretty, either. Seeing Beede’s progress and how he might fit into the 2017 picture is one of the most interesting storylines of the upcoming season right now, IMO.

      • paul in p.v.

        Someone (Ritzo?) said that Beede won the E.L. ERA title last year – is that correct?

        • DrLefty

          Yes, it is. He had a great year.

        • Michael Scott

          Hey, I’m here too, you know.

          • paul in p.v.

            LOL, Pal. Sorry.

    • 22’sSweetSwing

      You are correct, Ty was only better because he gave up 1/2 as many walks/ 9 innings as Cain. Beede being the number 5 starter on opening day would be akin to Belt making the team the first time (high pick being rewarded against the nature of the manager’s modus operandi). He had less K per 9 innings, almost 4 times as high a walk per nine innings as Blach, but he did have a hit per 9 innings less than the other two. The K rate doesn’t really bother me (he doesn’t have put away stuff) but the walk rate is concerning. Would it be cool? or logical (in the sense that where else but the 5th spot is a guy of his talent going to learn how to pitch in the bigs?). Yes, But this is the SFG, where out of spring training, milb players have to put up better numbers than their mlb teammates to make the OD roster. Is this because the team has to small a margin of making the playoffs and veterans are a safer bet? Probably. Is it the best way to prepare a guy to be a long term success at mlb? That is debatable.

  • The Oracle

    Is there anyone here who thinks that if Matt Cain is in the rotation, it will be because they believe he’s the 5th best starter they have? No? That’s the problem with it.

    • Matthew

      Of course he’s not. I totally get why that is (somewhat)equal parts absurd and defensible.

      The fact that the Giants treat loyalty different is maddening…and has paid huge dividends.

      • The Oracle

        When did it pay huge dividends?

        • Matthew

          Barry Zito 2012.
          Edgar Renteria 2010

          That’s just the ones off the top of my head

          • DrLefty

            Zito wasn’t primarily about loyalty. At the beginning of 2012, there truly were no other options–not the case now. In the postseason, he earned the rotation spot over Lincecum.

          • Matthew

            There are always options. Always.

            Look , I get the Cain angst (bordering on hate). I do NOT think he should be the 5th starter…but just going full verklempt every day over it isn’t going to help me…so i choose to hope he performs well. What i saw yesterday, while hoping Blach got the job the whole time, was a guy who was mixing pitches, speeds and locations like a good 5.

            Whether we admit it or not, we’re enamored with a kid that has about 3 (I think?) starts under his belt. He seems like a better option…yet WE HAVE NO IDEA.

            There was no one other than Barry’s yoga instructor that thought he had ANYTHING left going into 2012. Matt Cain is 32-years-old with a rich history and a terrible recent history. He gets the first shot. I’m resigned to that fact and will actually root for him to succeed, regardless of whether i want Blach or Beede

          • Skweezplay55

            Don’t get me wrong — I appreciate Matt Cain, and I hope he gets it all together. Veteran pitchers sometimes have experience that makes them very difficult to hit — they’ve learned how to pitch in MLB. Cain appears to be physically fine now, right? So, why isn’t all of his experience rising to the top? Maybe it will, but I hope it gets here soon. He’s down to his last handful of chances, for now at least.

          • Bapah

            He can’t pitch the same way he always has.

          • DrLefty

            Baggs had a good article the other day about how Cain should model himself after 2011 Vogelsong.

          • The Oracle

            They weren’t going to get rid of Zito with two big money years left on his deal. That was economics, not loyalty. Renteria was a guy who played decently during the season (he hit .276), missed time with injuries, and came up big in the World Series. Again, not the same as giving a guy a job you know he no longer deserves. The best Cain comparison is Lincecum, who they continued to stick with out of loyalty, hoping he would find something, while paying him big money. We know how that turned out.

            The Giants’ success didn’t result from loyalty to players who could no longer perform. They succeeded because they had enough good players who did perform.

          • Matthew

            Glad you were in the War Room so you could share the innermost thoughts

          • Peter Johnson

            How that worked out, he lead the Giants in ERA through May of 2015, He had a 3.6 ERA at the All Star break of 2014, the year in a half , before he got injured in June 2015, he had a 19-13 record, in half his Starts his ERA was in the 1.s, very bad in the other half, inconsistent yes, as bad as the Haters think , not even close!

      • DrLefty

        What part is defensible? Not just snarking–I honestly can’t think of any good reason to do this. I can’t believe the other players want it, either.

        • I guess it’s not for us to understand. It has its beginnings in major league baseball and more so with the Giants: Magowan-Baer. If it was Charles Stoneham Cain would have been gone three years ago.

    • HaakAway

      Disagree.
      It is potential vs. history and everyone gets to weight those two aspects with their own thinking. Cain is the #5 with the history; Blach/Beede are the #5’s with potential.

      • Peter Johnson

        Bad history lately, 2012 was 5 years ago !

    • Michael Scott

      I don’t know that they will go with Cain, and I hope that they don’t. But there are some realities that come into play- namely 20 million bucks or so. It would make it easier if Blach really forced the issue, but he didn’t. Is this a Hobson’s choice?

      • The Oracle

        Not at all. Butch Hobson was a third baseman.

        • Michael Scott

          You get a lot of “Guest” votes.

          • The Oracle

            It’s understandable. Who would want to admit something like that?

        • channelclemente

          Henry was your mentor though.

  • Skweezplay55

    Listening to Krukow again today: Cain has done enough (ANYTHING even remotely positive, which Krukow defined as setting up his change-up with his fastball, as far as I could tell) and he’s back in the rotation. Parker is on a “very short leash” after winning the LF job. Hoping that Jimmy Rollins will go to AAA as “insurance” in case Crawford goes down (despite the fact that JRoll cannot hit). Hard to keep Marrero off the team (why would anyone not want Marrero on the team?), and Aaron Hill has made the team with his 12 hits this spring. The veteran bias is just mind-blowing. Didn’t we all just see the chart that shows the decline of players over 30? Why wait on Parker, Tomlinson, Blach, Beede, Marrero? So SFG can trot out Cain, Morris, Hill, maybe even Rollins (?) because “they’ve done it before”? This veteran bias makes me crazy.

    • Matthew

      Mike being Mike

      • Skweezplay55

        Sometimes I think that since he is employed by SFG that they are using him to break news (or float trial balloons). I wonder how much of this is Mike being the Giants’ mouthpiece and how much of this is Mike being Mike.

        • They are one in the same.

        • DrLefty

          Good question.

    • That’s how other veteran pitchers treated Mike when he was at the end of his career. He is just paying it forward.

    • Skweezplay55

      Is there a pathway to 95 wins? Who does that include? That’s what I would like SFG to be thinking about.

      • DrLefty

        I agree. Preserving inventory instead of rewarding CURRENT merit is conservative. It’s playing defense instead of offense. You need at least some of both.

      • Michael Scott

        I’m sure that they are.

      • 22’sSweetSwing

        There is no pathway to 95 wins unless 4-5 players play better than they ever have. Shark and Moore are going to have to go 7-8 innings (3 runs or less) often to keep the worst relief pitchers off the mound. Parker is going to have to play like Pence at his peak and so is Pence. Finally, Span or his replacement must lead off at a rate equal to or higher than they have in the past. At best this is a second place team and definitely on the bubble as far as making the wildcard.

        • Michael Scott

          They are better than last year- way better.

          • 22’sSweetSwing

            How exactly?

          • Michael Scott

            Better pen. Better bench. Moore for the full year, Nunez for the whole year,

          • 22’sSweetSwing

            With Melancon but without Smith they are only slightly better. Yes, Moore is a better # 4. Nunez for a whole year and a bench we don’t know who is on it? Maybe. They might be better, but not way better. Not 8 games better, at best 3 games better.

          • Michael Scott

            I don’t feel much like arguing today. Especially since I’d be arguing with a bunch of peckerheads who are already bitching and throwing in the towel. So- whatever you say.

    • Sgbssfg

      Heard a comment by Mark Techeirra which I rather liked. You don’t learn to hit major league pitching in the minors.

      • Michael Scott

        Give ’em all a shot! Get Ricky back!

    • Michael Scott

      Marrero is hardly in the same category as Beede and company. He’s a career minor league player who hasn’t even had a lot of success there. As always,I am happy to be wrong. Give me awhile and I’ll try to remember the last time I was wrong.

      • channelclemente

        People are scared to death he’s what they wish Duvall was.

  • College Baseball Stadium Time Lapse Oklahoma Sooners

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPao4RooAU0

    • Matthew

      i hate turf

      • valleyfloorryan

        We have Surf Maui as a legitimate resident.

        What do you think of “Turf Owie” as an illegitimate resident, or alternate handle?

      • I know and – but it is here to stay. The latest “generation” of turf is rather different.

  • Matthew

    I suppose I shouldn’t even try to post any possible positive spin on Cain. People are clearly Full Pitchfork.

    • The Oracle

      Go ahead. Take your best shot. You may be so convincing that people will completely change their outlook.

      • Matthew

        I don’t think ” changing outlook” is a core attribute in the Book of Oracle

        • The Oracle

          Not usually, but I haven’t yet read your persuasive Matt Cain positive spin.

          • Matthew

            If my exemplary efforts haven’t tipped the scale, perhaps nothing short of a Cy Young Award coupled with Comeback player of the Century can

          • channelclemente

            I wonder how folks here will face the issue when Bumgarner faces the same issues Cain has in his career?

          • Matthew

            Well, since many started going Garage Sale on Posey early last year, it’s clear the collective we have generally lost all perspective during this time of unmatched riches for fan experience

          • channelclemente

            It’s funny that folks don’t see a career as a continuum, instead of what did you do for me yesterday. Although most don’t feel that way, I’d have gladly lobbied for the Giants to spend a few million to see a Perfect Game pitched in AT&T on TV. Goodness gracious, for an afternoon, Cain was at the center of the most important event going on in baseball in the world. I saw one in real time, with all the drama and excitement. In terms of that moment in time, and what it brought to me as a fan, it outclassed a World Series win.

          • Bapah

            My post of the day. Plus Blanco’s catch.

          • channelclemente

            We forget what a WONDERFUL day that was, Blanco being maybe, besides Cain, the source of the miracle.

    • paul in p.v.

      As RobDeere said yesterday, it will take a shellacking to dislodge Cain from the rotation. It didn’t happen yesterday, so now we’ll have to give away a half-dozen games before it happens. Just like 2016.

      • paul in p.v.

        p.s. Per Mateo, I hope I’m proven wrong.

        • totalfan62

          I hope you are as well.

          Part of me just wants all this Cain drama to be over.

    • Skweezplay55

      I LOVE the guy, and I hope he wins 15 games this year. I hope he proves us all wrong and shows us that he can still get MLB hitters out any day of the week. He just hasn’t shown us that ability in a long time.

      • Matthew

        I agree…i just feel too many are rooting against him to prove themselves right

        • Bapah

          Hey. Not everybody. I dissertated on this quite awhile ago.

          • Matthew

            I know…I know. A few are exempted

          • Bapah

            Kind of like the draft? Which I wasn’t.

        • The Oracle

          Weren’t you one of the most vehement anti-Cainites last season?

          • Matthew

            I’m a Giants fan first and – like most fans, I think – hope he has resurrected…you see, he has now had another off season in which to recover. It was clear last season that he WASN’T ready. Yesterday tells me he’s much closer.

            I felt Bochy and staff mismanaged it last season, on full display in Fenway.

        • radicalpro

          I don’t think people are rooting against him to prove themselves right. People just don’t believe he deserves the spot and since it’s not a fair competition vs. Blach it’ll take very bad starts to possibly get him outta there.

          • Matthew

            Read closely and you will certainly see some who are

        • The Oracle

          Not me. I’m usually right, so I’d be fine with this being one of the very rare occasions when I was wrong.

          • Bapah

            BSOTD

          • LOL @ usually right …. that’s what your co-worker in SJPD said about you who lives on my block back home. Says she: “Malloy considers himself to always be correct”.

    • channelclemente

      I thought, absent that one pitch, he threw pretty well yesterday. Easily as well as you expect from a #5. The criteria for a good #5 are what, ERA around 4.5 and 90 pitches/6 innings. Its can he sustain that kind of performance.

      • giantc

        And he hasn’t pitch that effectively the last few years. He also hasn’t a single start this Spring where he achieved that level of success.

        • channelclemente

          What do you want, a testimonial? It is what it is, I’m moving on. This entire discussion is sort of a waste of time.

    • Mr. Sarcastic

      I personally am not rooting for him to do poorly. I’m just expecting him to. I would LOVE for him to prove me wrong. Crow will be a tasty dish if the dessert is a Giants pennant.

  • Skweezplay55

    Speaking of comeback years, let’s hope that Bruce Bochy has one. Last year was not his best, not up to his HOF standards. Particularly, his handling of the bullpen was less than amazing.

    • radicalpro

      Good call, and I certainly hope he does have a better year. IMO Bochy was certainly one of the problems last year. I just don’t know if I see him able to do things differently. As was dsicussed before, Bochy never seemed to have any issue with any of his moves that didn’t work, never a “maybe I should have done it another way”, it was always “we’re trying to win ballgames, sometimes it doesn’t work out” type of thing.

    • The Oracle

      It depends on your perspective. I’m a glass half full-type person, so I found some of his worst moves to be incredibly entertaining. I was mesmerized and enthralled his continued insistence that Casilla was the right man to face Jake Lamb.

  • Matthew

    Can I be arrested for yelling “Cain!!” in a blog theater?

  • Matthew

    I WANT A JOHNNY CUETO BOBBLE BODY!!!!!

  • Michael Scott

    So much angst. Maybe ludes will help.

    • Peter Johnson

      Actually the posters that freely admit to taking Drugs are Cain’s biggest supporters !!

  • Dear Fans, please note this site is going down for some temporary maintenance. I hope to have it back up within an hour or less.
    Thank you for your understanding. Blame it on Donald Trump.

    • gamervixen

      or Putin

    • 610nm

      So, I’m supposed to work this afternoon? Oh, well.

    • Michael Scott

      Why? We have Bochy.

    • Matthew

      His approval ratings are higher than Matt’s

  • channelclemente
    • Matthew

      Ryan Braun looks like Gollum

      • Bapah

        I don’t remember Gollum as being that slimey.

        • Sgbssfg

          Bazinga.

      • channelclemente

        It’s a coloring book. Lighten up a bit, Bonds could be in the group, you know.

    • valleyfloorryan

      The proportion of African American players in MLB is greater than I thought!

      • The Oracle

        Maybe now you won’t have to feel guilty for linking your favorite music.

  • Surf Maui
  • channelclemente

    Mets closer, Familia, gets two week suspension by MLB for domestic violence.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/jeurys-familia-out-15-games-for-domestic-violence-arrest.html

    • just peachy.

      Good decision, Mets.

      • channelclemente

        You don’t hit women, ever.

  • Peter Johnson

    Kershaw getting hit hard in 1st inning by Seattle .

    • channelclemente

      Iwakuma will level the playing field.

    • channelclemente

      Maybe he’s working on it, but his cutter isn’t fooling anyone. Lots of hard contact.

    • steve k

      the dodgers will probably still put him on their OD roster, if i had to guess.

    • Ham & Egging It

      He’s only human. Does he not bleed? He’s due for a mediocre year at some point in his career.

    • Alex (not Pav)

      Seeing Barry mellow with age makes me wish he was like this during his playing days. I always find his quotes interesting.

      • So So True, but I actually think he had to be a prick to find his superstar hot button even though I saw him up close be arrogant to people. Jeff Kent was really no picnic to reporters either (enjoy the game more)

        I saw Bonds try to embarrass Bruce Jenkins. He went out of his way. Credit to Jenkins he placed Bonds on his HOF ballot from the first day that he could. Jenkins says the two have nothing to do with each other.

        Actually that Barry you watched on video – he acted that way 100% time around family and San Carlos childhood friends. A shame he created that other character.

  • just peachy.

    I’m back in the bay, a little tanner and now I’m watching yesterday’s game (I had hoped the Reds/Giants game was also going to be televised).

    I don’t have any wise observations to add, but the bullpen continues to make me nervous. Okert/Osich….blah. I’m glad Strickland was barely used. I was sitting in the lawn area right above the Giants’ bullpen, so it was really nice looking down at them doing their thing (and/or just sitting…) Law always looks so happy.

    Hwang was really enjoyable to watch, especially in the Reds/Giants game. He also was one of the very few to spend some time giving autographs, and he was totally digging it, super friendly. I could have gotten Hundley’s autograph because I was super close to him when he was signing stuff, but I was holding out my aggressiveness to get an autograph from Pence, which took some persistence and patience. Totally worth it!

    That 30ish-pitches first inning was so much fun, and the second most silent time for the Cubs fans. The most silent being after probably the 2nd home run in the 9th.

    You could tell there were lots of bandwagoners, 1, because they left early, and 2, they don’t seem to know much about any of the players except for Bryant/Rizzo/Heyward/Arrieta, or they just suck at cheering loudly enough for everyone. Meanwhile, us Giants fans were super loud in cheering for every player at bat.

    Gorkys was fun to watch too and he was pretty consistent. I have to admit I had no idea a Hunter Cole even existed (and he didn’t even have a picture for them to put on the screen), but now I dig him, ha!

    Anyway, I told the Cubs fans sitting near me after the game that I feel their pain when it comes to the bullpen completely unraveling and giving up the game. 😉 Honestly, the game was better the way it went than if we had had the lead the whole time. That ninth inning was some temporary aloe relief for the massive burn of last year.

    Overall, it was an amazing spring training experience. Winning epically definitely helped. Hoping the momentum continues and looking forward to being back in the park on Friday!

    • channelclemente

      I always felt Cubs fans, while intense and loyal, know next to nothing about baseball. I don’t mean that to ALL of them, there have to be exceptions.

      • just peachy.

        Based on the cheers, their current favorite player is Rizzo. I bet the lap dancing in his undies on SNL helped with his popularity.

        • channelclemente

          LOL. You can ask 2hole when he posts here.

          • just peachy.

            Haha I blocked him back in October, I’ve been too lazy to bother unblocking him now.

        • 2holehitting

          Probably worked better than reaching in his pants to pull out a red thong….

        • In fairness we better reenact that moment starring Peachy and J-Park because some of us missed it.

    • Word Smith! Thanks for sharing!

    • 610nm

      Might I encourage you to try a Guest Post sometime?

      • just peachy.

        Oh my stories are nowhere nearly as historically interesting as others who have guest posted. Maybe eventually though. 🙂

  • Jim Barnett @uograd66

    Honestly believe this W’s-Rockets game was the worst officiated game of the year. And the Warriors still won! Go to 60-14.

    Yes. It. Was.

  • Bapah

    Has anyone commented on Dan Brown’sn tweet on Giants’ MVPee award for Best Hydrated Player? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5fa4c34e056a922aef22912a4047b85564f0a14e70224afd19d9d0d79a2de936.jpg

    • I believe one or two did or it leaked under the radar

    • 2holehitting

      That looks like one of those fancy waterless urinals that are all the rage

  • Keep’n It Real

    “I went through the entire 2010 World Series season under the influence.”
    – aubrey_huff tells @Buster_ESPN

    I’ve always said Aubrey was about Aubrey…and this just re-inforced it IMO.

    • Bapah

      Of?

    • Yep he was a tad ego-maniacal but most likely anybody who grew up without a father was gonna be half bent and an introvert. When Huff was 6 his pops was murdered while trying to stop a domestic dispute and his mom was a 28 year old widow.

      Story says she spoiled Aubrey rotten and as an adult it showed many times.

      • Keep’n It Real

        I feel bad about his upbringing, but he doesn’t get a pass. Aubrey has made more than enough money to get the “help” he needs and his actions are his actions. Now his grab for attention will impact the SF Giants organization and his fellow 2010 team members. I guess grabbing someone from the scrap heap and giving them an opportunity to succeed isn’t good enough these days.

        • Bapah

          I think you need to know how they found the scrap heap in the first place.

        • Yikes I never said he deserved a pass or that I felt sorry for him – I just acknowledged it as a factor. Loads of money has never bought happiness nor has it covered up any demons. One has to look to further than the Hollywood beautiful people whose off spring or spouses or significant others have killed themselves or family members. I have had kids from various backgrounds and I will opt for the stable home-life background versus any other kind.

          *That said Babe Ruth was an orphan* 🙂

          • Keep’n It Real

            My bad. I thought you were making excuses for him 🙂

    • Michael Scott

      Was it 2011 or 2012 when he showed up out of shape, chain smoking, probably hung over and then went out and had a terrific spring?

      • Sounds correct for the spring. I do know in ST of his arrival in 10 that he booted the first ground ball hit to him and he had fun with the media after that happened…

  • Any news where Pagan landed?

  • channelclemente

    Well, back to Better Call Saul, season 2.

  • Mr. Sarcastic

    After GG’s TWG site update, I no longer see the recent Tweets section in the sidelines. Anyone else?

    • 22’sSweetSwing

      I don’t see them either, bummer

    • Some things are still a tad half-cocked…do not see them either. Putin may have hacked the site.

  • paul in p.v.

    Balanced assessment of Marrero by Brisbee:

    “In other words …

    DO: Root for Marrero to make the team if you think his right-handed power and general skill set makes him a good complement to Jarrett Parker. I think a reasonable comp would be Brett Pill with more outfield experience, but maybe that’s selling him short. I wasn’t watching Jae-gyun Hwang in outfield drills, so this would be a reasonable choice if the Giants want a proven-ish outfielder until Hwang gets more outfield inning in Sacramento.

    DON’T: Root for Marrero because he’s hit a bunch of homers in the Cactus League against pitchers who might combine for 20 major league innings this year when you take Grant Dayton out of the mix. Marrero would pay late in spring games, which means he would face mostly pitchers who aren’t likely to pitch in the majors this year.”

    http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2017/3/29/15107408/chris-marrero-sf-giants-bench

    • Peter Johnson

      He is a WAR guy that thinks his 9 year old sense of humor is funny, and he is a fan of slap hitters, wonder why this blog likes him .

      • JStreet

        Hey PJ. I wonder how many years old is your sense of humor? It’s so rarely seen, hard to get a read on. Help us out.

        • Peter Johnson

          I have a great sense humor, I just do not think stupid is funny !

          • The Oracle

            Can you give us a short list of movies and/or TV shows you think are funny?

          • DrLefty

            Not funny, but I just watched “Ordinary People” on my flight. Wow, there’s some great acting. Timothy Hutton is still the youngest ever to win Best Supporting Actor (he was 20). We talked about MTM, and Judd Hirsch also got an Oscar nomination. Donald Sutherland was excellent, too. Also very young Elizabeth McGovern, later to become Lady Cora in Downton Abbey.

          • channelclemente

            Sutherland made that movie work. That and Eye the Needle were pretty darn good.

          • thefarnz

            As was the novel

          • The Oracle

            Obviously, there are many great movies and acting performances, but I’d have a hard time thinking of one where four actors all were so great at the same time. MTM was amazing, and I always wondered after that why she never found another great dramatic role. I thought the best scene was the where Hutton meets Hirsch in the middle of the night, after learning that his friend from the hospital had committed suicide, and has his breakthrough. Everything about that scene was perfect.

          • DrLefty

            I now can really see why “Manchester by the Sea” evoked “Ordinary People” for many viewers. There’s a family tragedy they just can’t get past. The acting is incredible–nominations in three different categories (one win, for Casey Affleck), including another amazing teenage character. And there’s “that scene”–between Affleck and his ex, played by Michelle Williams–that just rips your heart out and stays with you. We saw it in a theater and everyone was crying during that scene. I just rewatched it on demand and cried again.

          • The Oracle

            And also not a bad directorial debut by Robert Redford.

          • thefarnz

            Watched 3 Days of the Condor last night…still pertinent in todays world

          • RobDeer

            Always listed in my top ten.

          • Skweezplay55

            I saw that when it came out, but it was so depressing. I never wanted to watch it again. You’re indicating that it has stood up well over time. Worth revisiting?

          • JStreet

            Right, I know that – but how many years old is it?

        • paul in p.v.

          Scheisskopf.

        • Bapah

          J, I’m getting so sick and tired of some same-o, same-o posters, I think i want to vomit.

  • The Baseball Bookies are famous. The Politico Bookies are infamous

    http://www.casinonewsdaily.com/2017/03/16/bookmakers-unleash-wave-trump-impeachment-odds/

  • DrLefty

    I’m in Chicago between flights. I’ve been at O’Hare half an hour and am already over the Cubs. However, I did get some popcorn from Nuts on Clark. 🙂

  • just peachy.
  • The Oracle

    Every one of these stories where political correctness allows a trans “woman” to compete against biological women is a situation where the victims will always be the biological women. We’re never going to see a trans “man” who is able to compete at a high level against biological men. It’s too bad that some people are born into a gender that they don’t feel suits them, but that doesn’t mean that others should be disadvantaged. It’s a matter of fairness.

    http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/34947132/despite-criticism-local-transgender-athlete-eyes-2020-summer-olympics

    • valleyfloorryan

      This is clearly your thing. Thanks for sharing.

      • The Oracle

        Do you agree with it? Should women who have worked hard be disadvantaged so that someone can feel better by being able to compete with a built-in advantage?

        • valleyfloorryan

          seems pretty straightforward about the absurdity of biological men competing against biological women when the intent of the competition is to separate the biological sexes.

          here’s one to keep it diverse:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXGPZaTKik

      • thefarnz

        Are you the Footsom fellow of many personalities…aka Rye Grass?

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          You’ve always been one of my favorite itinerant tennis loving, O.G., member of the community with fluid and fluent borders.

          • thefarnz

            Sybil, is that you?

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            Nowadays you sound like Matthew.

          • thefarnz

            Its going to be a great season. Lets play too.

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            tired of fake games and fake news.

          • thefarnz

            Sorry, stupid spell check, meant two
            You’ll always be one of my favorites, politics be damned

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            damn them all to hell!

          • thefarnz

            NUTS!

    • Michael Scott

      Have you seen Hillary on TV in the last couple days? If she ran for Mayor of San Francisco, she’d have the BDSM vote locked up, so to speak.

  • paul in p.v.

    Apologies if Brisbee’s take on the S.I. Belt-bashing was already posted:

    http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2017/3/28/15096960/brandon-belt-sf-giants-projections

    “Over at Sports Illustrated, someone took the time to round up a collection of quotes about every team from anonymous scouts. It was a good idea, and I enjoyed reading it. However, they also sent the initial email to Very Bad Scout, who is bad at his job.

    Here is what Very Bad Scout said about Brandon Belt:

    ‘Brandon Belt is going to have to step up his game. This is a guy they gave $79 million based on what they expected him to do in the future—well, the future is now….’

    Brandon Belt finished fifth in the National League in on-base percentage.”

    • valleyfloorryan

      That’s totally unfair. If they expected Belt to bash, say like Freddie Freeman, he would have gotten north of 100 million. While it would be a huge boon to the Giants if Belt became an RBI machine with 25+ HRs, Giants are perfectly content with those walks, doubles, runs scored, and defensive runs saved.

      • paul in p.v.

        I guess the Brainiacs recognize his true value now, batting him 2nd for OBP instead of down the lineup for RBIs.

    • Matthew

      That entire SI issue was lazy. Most if the “scout takes” seemed from guys who were way behind the present situations.

    • DrLefty

      VBS then went on to opine that if Belt gets off to a slow start, he’ll get benched and Posey will play more 1B because, well, remember Joe Mauer…

      Seriously, there are things to criticize about the Giants. The shaky bullpen. The aging outfield. The offense that went AWOL in the second half of 2016. But Belt-bashing is front-and-center? Weird.

      • channelclemente

        Did Heyward come up?

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          Now there’s an exciting experiment that may have boring results. I heard his bat speed was still meh.

      • Efrain

        not really when you take a deep dive.

        The pen and the OF issue are separate from the Belt criticism because the team gave him the money because of upside and potential.

        There is nothing wrong with pointing out right now. It’s a very fair assessment.

        He get’s paid a great deal of money to bat in a very important run production part of the order. Sure it’s the team’s fault that they have not put better bats around him. But at the same time he is not asked to do what Posey is, manage the pitching staff, play a much more demanding position, control the INF D, etc.

        Oh yeah, and one of the reasons Posey has to play 1B about 20 times a year, other than get a “rest” is because Belt can’t hit certain left handers.

        • Bapah

          POSt

  • Ham & Egging It

    Sounds like the Ws will be all in tonight for the win.

  • channelclemente
  • channelclemente

    Do the Giants have a homeless player in the minor league because salaries are so low? Meet Matt Pare.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/03/matt-pare-san-francisco-giants-homeless-minor-leaguer-salaries-minor-league-baseball-mlb

  • Sgbssfg

    There is a lid on that basket.

  • Sgbssfg

    Nice comeback Dubs. Now do that 3rd quarter thing.

    • 12xu

      They are doing that 3rd quarter thing! Opened with an 8-0 run to take a 5-point lead! Wow.

  • Foothills A-rye-o

    Predictions week continues.

    Results of polling 50 MLB “experts”: How Buster Posey doesn’t “receive votes” is beyond me.

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/221317290/mlbcom-mlb-network-predict-2017-awards/

    • DrLefty

      How about Johnny Cueto not getting any love for the Cy? He came in second in 2014 and was fantastic last year.

      But yeah–Puig gets MVP votes but not Buster or Craw? Puig, the guy that got demoted to AAA last August?

      And Roberts deserved MOY last year, but he’s not going to win it again this year. If the Dodgers win, well, that’s what everyone’s predicting. And if they don’t, he obviously won’t win the award, either.

      • Efrain

        Puig’s going to have a good year.

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          I have a sneaking suspicion that he will.

      • Foothills A-rye-o

        How about Matt Carpenter dark horse for MVP?

        • Matthew

          But the Cards are fading…that will take a Herculean effort for him to win it..

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            Like Daniel Murphy, he’s the type of hitter I see as having pretty much put it all together. I think Carp is capable of a .300/.400/.530+ season with 30 big flies. That could do it, would also help push Cards to Wild Card.

      • 2holehitting

        If the Giants win the division and Buster carries them to it, then yeah he gets consideration.

        Sorry but Crawford may have had a very good first half hitting 0.281 and driving in 61 runs, but when it counts down the stretch he hit .267 with 23 RBI’s and 3 HR’s in the second half. He basically reverted back to his ho hum self.

        Buster was not much better hitting a career low last year and .257 in September. He hit a whopping 3HR’s in the second half. Certainly not even close to his MVP season

    • PerSpeier35

      Buster needs to pick it up offensively to get back in to any MVP ballots. Hopefully he does.

      MSBL season starts on Saturday, ready to go, except I’m not sure if I remember how to field a ground ball.

      I notice you are posting under two logins; did I miss a story behind that?

      • Foothills A-rye-o

        Disqus problems. Personal problems? Blame it on the First Lady, Ivanka.

      • Foothills A-rye-o

        had many practices? got any ringers? are your sons playing in league local to them?

        • PerSpeier35

          My new team has had about five practices but four of them at an indoor facility; lots of hitting and bullpens but not much fielding. So my arm and bat are good to go. As for ringers, not that I am aware. Mostly regulars in our league who have aged through 35’s, 45’s, and now 55’s (like me).

          My younger son who lives with us here in the East Bay joined my league (on a younger team of course) and my older son will play again in MN. My brother, sons, and I will be playing in the Memorial weekend father-son tournament in Vegas. Mom & Dad will be there, I rented a big house through Airbnb, it’s gonna be awesome (assuming we stay healthy and can all play).

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            To your health. Happy Opening Day x2 !

        • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

          Foots your funny youre a master at flipping subjects to get the story off of you lmao thats a great skill!

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            Seen any movies lately 🙂

  • Efrain

    Good take on one of Buster Onley’s recent podcasts where he mentions Hensley Meulens as being one of the biggest rising stars in the WBC. Many baseball people are talking about his abilities, taking the NL to the semis, his handling of the players and their respective orgs, the number of languages he speaks and the Giants pedigree. Bam should should be in line for some managerial jobs down the line.

    • JStreet

      I would hope so.

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      I am truly impressed by his fluency in multiple languages. People talk about Wotus succeeding Bochy, but it should probably be Meulens.

      • Bapah

        Come on. Really?

      • DrLefty

        Kuiper thinks Phil Nevin is now the heir-apparent.

  • DrLefty

    Every time the Spurs shoot two free throws, the PA guy intones “Twoooo shots.” And the crowd chants back “Twoooo shots.” That’s one of the dumber traditions I’ve ever seen/heard. Why is that meaningful?

    Well–it IS Texas.

    • Matthew

      Yee Haw.

  • DrLefty

    OK, I don’t want to jinx anything, but MAYBE the Warriors will make it out of the first round, after all. As long as that Durant guy doesn’t ruin their chemistry when he comes back. 🙂

    But seriously, what an impressive back-to-back. And I’m not scared of the Spurs. They’re not great scorers, and the Dubs are nearly as good defensively.

    • Skweezplay55

      Of course, the big worry is injuries. With everyone in good health, the Warriors can take them. But it can all change so quickly. Long way to go.

  • Michael Scott

    Starting tomorrow, 164 games on TV. I record most of the games and watch after I put Merna to bed. Then it’s my time. She likes baseball and she’ll watch with me sometimes- keeps me from yelling at the TV. Off days suck. If we had a Job Jar, that would when I’d do the big jobs. Once I tried to get a kid to do the windows.I offered 20 bucks- no way. 30- nope. 50- he said he’d ask his little brother if he would do it- a 10 year old- he declined my offer. So it’s true- nobody does windows, even me. So I take a nap.
    PLAY BALL!

    • DrLefty

      Happy almost baseball season, Chef! Can’t wait.

      • Michael Scott

        Opening Day- Pan Fried Chicken- natch. Shoo Fly Pie. I used to do the whole works, biscuits, pan gravy, mashed potatoes. Merna and I are a perfect fit- she likes the white meat, I love the dark. I might asked about that when we first met. The wrong answer might have doomed the relationship. Now we just have a salad with the the chicken, always from the garden Right now we have red mustard greens ( very spicy), arugula, and baby spinach.
        Lemonade.
        Always make extra chicken for the next day or a late snack. Or both…
        What are you having?

        • Andres The Forever Giant

          Leftover crockpot BBQ chicken thighs, mac&cheese, mixed vegetables, peach green tea, chocolate chip blondies. Simple, filling, cheap, good! 🙂

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            I heart mac & cheese. It must be my inner child.

          • just peachy.

            Mac and cheese is one of the best foods ever. But it must have breadcrumbs on top. One of my favorite places to eat is Homeroom- alllll mac&cheese on the menu. Drool.

          • Bapah

            How ironic, my favorite eatery is After School Detention.

        • DrLefty

          Hmmmm, I’ll have to come up with a plan. (I’m traveling right now but get home Saturday night so should have time to pull something together on Sunday.) Sometimes we do hot dogs–deluxe, grilled with grilled onions and peppers. Maybe pulled pork and coleslaw. I’ll keep you posted!

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            Hot dogs feels so right. Burgers might be a better bet.

          • HaakAway

            So you have arranged your work schedule around the Baseball schedule? Nice to have your priorities in order.

            Radio on the Road to Marysville/Yuba City for us; In-N-Out Burgers [protein style] somewhere on the way.

          • DrLefty

            Yes, it worked out that I’ll be home to watch Opening Day with Mr. L and back from my next trip (to Delaware next week) in time to go to the Giants’ home opener. However, sadly, I’ll miss the River Cats’ home opener. Can hardly wait to get out there for a game.

            There’s an In-N-Out pretty close to the freeway in Davis. Take the downtown Davis exit.

          • HaakAway

            We cut north before that in Vacaville on 505 but thanks for the info. Last time I was in Davis I had taken the train there from SJ; a very nice ride along the delta and even a view of Levi Stadium.

          • DrLefty

            I’ve taken that train to/from SJ, and it is a nice ride–very comfortable, with power outlets and Wifi, nice view…only way to go, considering how traffic can be.

          • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

            Next time you drive past vacaville/ fairfield say hi!

          • HaakAway

            My sis lives and works for the city there and I do stop. I will remember your offer.
            Write me at: My SF Giant Guy at Gee Mel dOtt com to exchange phone numbers.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            I’m in the same boat – work travel next week so will miss the River Cats opener, but I will see you at AT&T on April 10!

          • totalfan62

            My traditional Opening Day lunch with my best baseball buddy here in ATL (he’s also my wife’s boss!), was moved to Sunday night dinner due to work schedules. Also, he’s a Cardinals fan, and the Sunday night ESPN game is Cards/Cubs opener. We always go to a local pub that has more than 300 beers on tap, and they make a killer Bacon Mushroom Cheeseburger. That’s what’s up for this Giants fan!

          • HaakAway

            I have a CardsFanFriend too and he hates the Cubs and Doggers so that helps us bond.

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          It’s a one o’clock game! Sandwiches? Nachos? Big fan of garden arugula. So easy to grow, and speaking of chicken, they love it too.

        • Bapah

          Well done, Mr. Spratt. Chicken sounds great, but almost too much work for one. Youngin’s never get mashed potatoes right. Some even think lumps are desirable. Cold fried chicken is why I even bother.

        • Skweezplay55

          I’ll be stopping at the world famous Corralitos Market and Sausage Company after church to pick up some sausages. Will warm them on the grill and make sandwiches. A nice dill pickle and maybe some chips and salsa, and I’ll be in good shape. That chicken sounds pretty good though!

  • Matthew

    Very impresseive back to back statement in Texas. The Warriors are great. Kerr is great.

    • RobDeer

      Yes, they’ve certainly quieted a lot of their critics. Nine in a row, all without Durant, wins in OKC, Houston and then winning in SA on a back to back after spotting them a 23-3 lead? That’s a helluva statement. David West was big tonight. They’re special. I want Cleveland so friggin’ bad.

      • Matthew

        Boston’s gonna have something to say about that….

  • Foothills A-rye-o

    Last day of going to work before Opening Day. Hail Cesar mañana. So close. Will the Bay Bridge exhibition series be entertaining? Si se puede llegar al dia inaugural!

  • Foothills A-rye-o

    Remember these two guys, packaged with Matt Duffy in what appears to be the most excellent trade for Matt Moore? Fox and Santos are ranked 8th and 21st respectively in the Tampa organization by Eric Longenhagen. Once a Giant…

    Lucius Fox Scouting Report:

    Fox was born in the Bahamas and then came to the U.S. to play high-school baseball at American Heritage in Florida. He reclassified as an international amateur ahead of the deadline. (International free agency was, at the time, more lucrative than the wage-suppressing draft. Now, both are disasters created by a selfish and short-sighted player’s union and greedy sect of owners, but I digress.) He got $6 million from San Francisco instead of the 1.4-1.7 million he likely would have gotten in the draft.

    The Giants, very aggressively, sent him directly to full-season ball in Augusta and Fox flopped. He fouled a ball off of his foot and suffered a bone bruise, through which he attempted to play, a week or so before he was traded to Tampa in the Matt Moore deal. Tampa wasn’t aware of the issue and there was talk of them receiving additional compensation in that deal but nothing materialized. Fox sat out the rest of the season.

    The talent — which led to Fox ranking third on the FanGraphs IFA board and second on my own pref list for ESPN at the time — is all still here. Fox is an exceptional quick-twitch athlete and plus runner, has flashy but inconsistent actions at short, good bat speed, some barrel control, and a frame that should strengthen with age. Fox has the physical capability to one day play a good defensive shortstop and also do some damage with the bat near the top of a lineup. He’s a potential star who had quickly fallen out of favor with his previous org. This is exactly the kind of player Tampa should be trying to acquire via trade, because they have no way to acquire it via free agency.

    Michael Santos Scouting Report:

    Acquired from San Francisco in the Matt Moore deal, Santos is a projectable righty with a low-90s fastball that I’ve seen up to 95. He has feel for a four-pitch mix in a curveball, slider and changeup, all of which project to average. He fills the strike zone with extreme regularity and has easy plus control projection. Santos’ future ability to miss bats is going to be more reliant upon his ability to locate his secondaries than it is pure development of his stuff. He projects as a future league-average starter for me, but is still quite far away from the majors and has had injury issues. Reports on his makeup are excellent.

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      catching up on other former Gigantes…

      Last I checked, Adalberto Mejia was in the running for 5th starter with the Twins.
      Andrew Susac to start the season on the DL for the Brewers.

      • Sgbssfg

        And our Gregor signed a minor league deal with the DBacks. He’ll be in Reno to rehab.

      • 610nm

        Probably well known, but our Vogey released by Twins. As far as I know, Pagan with no offers, and “Magnet” Sanchez is a Padre.

        • DrLefty

          So from last year’s free agents, only Casilla and Romo currently have jobs…well, I guess Blanco now has a minor league job. Lopez retired, Pagan, Peavy, Nathan, and Beckham all still unemployed. Nathan and Beckham were in camps but did not make their respective teams.

          It’s interesting how often the Giants are the “last stop” for guys’ careers. Is it (a) because the Giants are overly fond of veterans or (b) the Giants bring out the best in them, and after the Giants, there’s nowhere left to go?

          • Bapah

            The former. Hospice for fading careers.

          • Bapah

            Corr: Faded.

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            The shores of the Golden Gate aren’t the worst place to wash up.

            By God, that’s terrible and insensitive.

          • Bapah

            Thank you.

          • The Oracle

            (a)

          • HaakAway

            Whole interesting question.
            I just looked at Renteria on that front. The Giants did not re-sign him for 2011 and the Reds took him for half a season and then he retired.

          • 610nm

            It seems that guys like Peavy and Hudson and perhaps Pagan too are able to command one more year of contract than they can actually manage to deliver. The starts of the Peavy and Hudson contracts were actually fine.
            Nathan and Beckham were never in the long term picture. Nor our favorite Uggla. Sabean does like plugging holes with dumpster findings.

          • totalfan62

            We have a bad habit of giving players an extra year. Renteria, Aurilia, Huff, Timmy, Pagan, Scutaro, Hudson, Peavy…

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          Pagan to Tigers seems possible as of yesterday. There was talk of the Padres opening with 4 catchers on the roster as one of them is capable of relieving and playing the outfield (Christian Bethancourt).

        • totalfan62

          El Iman! I was always able to overlook Sanchez’s shortcomings, and I *always* loved ECK-tor!

          • 610nm

            Me too. He’s a tough guy, and I hope with concusssions (etc) behind him, that he finds some success with the Padres.

    • The Oracle

      The way Bickford started, and the fact that Fox was a young, international free agent coveted by other teams, made them the two most intriguing minor leaguers the Giants had in a while. And then they were both gone so quickly.

      • HaakAway

        That is what makes MyGuy™ interesting and I hope you take a shot this year. These young guys are potential Giants that deserve some attention. SJ Giants will be especially strong in top prospects this year. Want to do some scouting there?

        • valleyfloorryan

          Reynolds and Quinn will certainly be exciting. Not sure how interesting the arms will be.

          • HaakAway

            Pitchers: I have a secret pick based on listening to Ritzo’s podcast review. Another Tyler is coming: Cyr who finished #3 in MyGuy plus Watson. It is not as rich in top picks as Sac and Richmond but there are some good guys there.

          • valleyfloorryan

            Cyr should be coming out of pen. May jump to AA right away. How about Corey Taylor?

          • HaakAway

            When you are done checking out your ‘Stros [and MyHometownGuy™ Stassi] here is Ritzo on SJ Starting Pitchers. … https://sjgiants.mlblogs.com/2017-san-jose-giants-season-preview-starting-pitchers-e478529b22d0

          • valleyfloorryan

            Gracias. I’ve walked by the booth at Visalia and given Joe the nod on my way to seats behind the plate.

      • totalfan62

        I thought that too. They were my two MyGuys from Augusta last year.

  • HaakAway

    My25ManGuy™
    Here is how 29 of us voted:
    Parker – 27
    Okert – 26
    Gorkys – 24
    Blach – 23
    Cain – 22
    KT – 20
    Osich – 16
    Marrero/Hill – 15 (tie) … even this scientific poll of True Experts is Uncertain

    FYI: Seven added Ramirez; 11 put Nunez on the DL [EDIT: and that lets Hill and Marrero both make it]

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      Speaking of KT, is he really going to be left off the OD roster? With Nunez banged up and Rollins washed up, seems like an iffy proposition.

      • Bapah

        And from the official depth chart, he’s the only one, other than Nuñez to play all infield positions.

        • HaakAway

          Nunez’s health may ultimately be the deciding factor for KT as you noted. Hill can play Second, Third and E-OF and he is the BochyPetVet I picked.

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            E-OF, I like that. Emergency outfield. Seems KT can play some E-CF too.

          • HaakAway

            The Giants list of E-OF is long: KT, Belt, Nunez, Hill, Gearrin, Marrero, … EDIT: Barry™

          • Bapah

            Probably the reason they’ll keep Cory.

          • Peter Johnson

            Never has, why would you think he can play CF.

          • HaakAway

            “E” is the key.
            If Span, Parker and Gorkys are gone then KT is at least the fastest possible OF … close off the Gappers if not catch them all.

          • Peter Johnson

            Too bad he is not an Outfielder, if he was the Giants would use him more in the Outfield, he has played 3 Career games in the Outfield .

      • paul in p.v.

        That would be nuts. DL Nuñez for now.

        • valleyfloorryan

          He’s gonna have to get some throws in across the diamond at some time. Of course if he plays, then can’t retro DL him as far back. As long as Crawford doesn’t have to come off the field, can buy some time.

  • HaakAway

    Evans on KNBR now

    • Peter Johnson

      Evans pretty much said what you posted, if Infield is healthy ( Nunez) makes it easier for Marrero to make the team , so looks like KT or Marrero for last roster spot .

  • crawnik

    Adalberto Mejia wins the 5th starter job for the Twins. https://t.co/LnMl9Hhm62

    • HaakAway

      Reminds me of another MyGuyOption™ that I have thought of: FormerGiantMyGuy™ … who will do the best?

  • just peachy.
    • Mr. Sarcastic

      Still love me a Crazy Crab Sandwich with a cold beer! Only $30 bucks! LOL

      • Matthew

        Hmmm…still love me a Polish Dog and a Ghirardelli Hot Fudge Sundae. I’m not as wealthy as you

        • Mr. Sarcastic

          Waiting in line for those damn Ghirardelli sundaes made me miss Bonds blasting HR # 660 to tie Willie Mays. Grrrrrrrrr
          Never bought one since!

          • Matthew

            That’s more of a Sarcastic Logistical Planning Failure…

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            I jumped in line immediately after his first at bat, to MAKE SURE I was back in my seat by the time the batting order rolled around again. The line was soooo long. Third inning went by. Fourth inning. I was getting closer and closer to high-caloric bliss, but Barry was getting closer to coming up as well. Fifth inning now. After almost 45 minutes in line I was two people away from reaching the hot fudge covered Holy Grail, when all of a sudden the entire crowd around me erupted. “YEEEESSSSSSS!!! WOOOO HOOOOO!!!” I bolted from the line and ran to the glass windows of the Club Level to see Barry rounding second on his way to third. Now sick to my stomach, I returned to my seat, empty handed and dejected, with only a warm Anchor Steam to comfort me.

          • Matthew

            Sarcastic Kerouac – The Fudge and the Homer.

            An epic story of a man, his desires, his choices, and his regrets

          • CaptBrewster

            45+ minutes in a food line at the yard!?!? During a game!?!? You missed 2+ innings standing in line!?!? Nearly a third of the game!?!? For food!?!? While ball was being played!?! Some fans I’ll never understand. SMH Priorities man, priorities.
            Sorry you missed it. But it wasn’t the ice cream’s fault.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            Some life lessons are learned the hard way Captain! LOL
            Somehow I have managed to pick up the pieces and move on with my life. (However, my wife, who requested said ice cream at the time, is now my ex-wife. Coincidence? I think not)

          • CaptBrewster

            A lesson, Indeed.

          • Surf Maui

            I surely hope that this is an attempt at humor. Who on earth would miss a Barry Bonds plate appearance (much less one with him on the verge of hitting 660) for ice cream? I don’t care if the sundae was the greatest ice cream in the history of ice cream (which by the way can be had at Kopps in Milwaukee) and came covered in one carat diamonds and $1000 bills. If it really is true, please turn in your Giants fan club card immediately.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            Please see below for the sordid details…

          • Surf Maui

            I think it may be the sorbet details.

          • Bapah

            For diamonds and $1000 bills? I’d do it in a heartbeat. BTW I’m an excellent Giants’ fan, just not a Barry one.

          • Surf Maui

            We differ on both scores. You would risk miss seeing significant baseball history– no matter who it was– for ice cream? please!

          • Bapah

            It was history with an asterisk.

          • Surf Maui

            It’s freaking ice cream without an asterisk! Forget about the record– who goes to a game and gets up to get ice cream? Pllllluuueeeze!

          • Bapah

            Well, I probably wouldn’t miss much of anything for ice cream.

          • The Oracle

            Only for the cash and diamonds

          • The Oracle

            I don’t care much about the ice cream, but the one carat diamonds and $1.000 bills would do the trick for me

        • DrLefty

          Cha Cha Bowl, here. That way I can pretend to be healthy so I can have a hot fudge sundae later.

          Oh, and since the CF garden opened up–Bloody Marys from the bar there. Lots of produce and veggies!

          • CaptBrewster

            Cha Cha Bowls are my #1 go-to choice. Love ’em steaming hot on a blustery evening… With an Anchor Steam. The! Best!

      • just peachy.

        Seriously, it’s all about that crab sandwich. I almost always get that when I’m sitting in Club level since the line is so much shorter (plus the same kiosk sells strawberry shortcake), but usually when I’m too lazy to stand in line, I’ll go for Tony’s pizza + watermelon beer from the Garden. I hope the bartender there still remembers me this season, he’s super nice.

        Oh and I just love that there’s boba. I’ve had a frozen honeydew boba in the freezing cold before because it’s just that good.

        • Mr. Sarcastic

          The other trick at the outfield kiosks is that you can order the sandwich from any line, not just the lines beneath the big Crazy Crab sign. People will line up twenty+ deep under the crab sign while the other lines are relatively short.
          (But shhhh… don’t tell anyone else)

          • just peachy.

            Oh yes, I do love that secret. I haven’t even shared it with my friends, haha…

    • crawnik

      Thanks for the link. I read it. It all sounds delicious, as Brian Wison would say.

  • Keep’n It Real

    ***Off-Topic***

    Kevin Durant was interviewed by ESPN regarding the resting of NBA players. He more or less said “it’s only some players” and also questioned why no one is dogging non-playoff teams for sitting guys out the rest of the year (ex:Tyson Chandler).

    As usual, the ESPN comment trolls are out there and they’re bashing Durant left and right.

    Here is my $0.02 on the topic:

    This on on the league and their scheduling. The players have no say in that.

    The Warriors 8 games…in 8 cities…in 13 days was stupid and was just feeding into the league’s TV contracts. Kerr was smart to use the National TV Game…and their visit to San Antonio (a team with a history of resting players)…as the mechanism to give guys rest and make a statement to the league. I also think Iggy’s “master” comments (even though he has a reputation for “yanking the chains” of the press) was directed at the NBA front offices. He said it was an “inside team joke”, so I could easily see the team talking amongst themselves about the NBA (and their cash-cow scheduling) this way.

    I get it…some MLB players take no rest and play 160+, but they stay in visiting cities for multiple days/games in a row; which the NBA doesn’t do (except playoffs). I also get the MLB counterpoint where players take rest all through the season, but that’s also embedded in baseball’s culture and fans know the deal when they buy tickets.

    I think a fair comparison would be if you bought tickets to see the Eagles (when Glenn Frey was still alive) and Don Henley decided to take a night off. You paid big bucks to see all the Eagles, but Don wasn’t going to play that night. If you were an Eagles fan, you would be greatly upset. The difference here is the Eagles get an opportunity to approve their multi-city tour schedule and you can bet their rest/performance factors are heavily measured in that decision. NBA players get zero say in that regard.

    Finally…I get the argument that these NBA players are making millions and they should just suck it up. All of us would love to make that type of money and feel that we would never need to take games off, because that’s part of the deal. Personally…until any of us have experienced what it’s like to play an NBA schedule and travel like they do…we really shouldn’t criticize their need to rest.

    Once again, this is on the league and their scheduling.

    • Matthew

      I also think players are – in many cases – playing harder than ever. I don’t mean the Laimbeer-type harder. I mean 40+ minutes of hard screens, rubs, grabs, etc. On the stars. Jordan never got touched like that. (Cue TO outrage via sarcasm…).

      It IS on the league. The Warriors have been on the back of a back-to-back for the last 4 San Antonio visits…that’s lazy scheduling

      • totalfan62

        Excellent perspective, KIR and Matthew. Well said, gents.

    • DrLefty

      And the Warriors absolutely DID get the short end of the scheduling stick. They’re traveling 10K miles more than any other team this year. Take being a West Coast team and add being a big TV draw, and you get what the Warriors got last month. When East Coast teams come west, they usually stay west for a few days, even a week–the Warriors, the Kings, the LA teams, Portland…they don’t go zig-zagging all over the country like the Warriors did. And even Western Conference teams like Memphis or the Texas teams or New Orleans are in the same time zones as many Eastern Conference teams, or close–maybe one hour difference, not three. It’s just built-in unfairness, and the Dubs got the very worst of it.

      • 2holehitting

        Wow 5 years ago , no one considered the W’s a big TV draw. My how fortunes change when you win.

  • Matthew

    The Prospector is BACK!!!

  • Keep’n It Real

    Ryan…you are the TWG version of Sybil. I can’t keep up with all your monikers 🙂

    This said…it’s good to have you around.

    • valleyfloorryan

      Seems TWG is either lacking familiarity with the dissociate disorder pages of the DSM manuals, or just likes to follow Matthew’s lead. Or was it the Oracle? I forget.

      Anyhow, I prefer “Fletch”. That’s Doctor Rosen-Rosen to you. Hey, it’s all ball-bearings these days. For Opening Day, I’ll have the steak sandwich and the lobster thermador. Put it on the Underhill acount!

      http://www.thrillingdetective.com/images/fletch.jpg

      • Matthew

        I have no doubt you would win the TWG Open Division Women’s Arm Wrestling title if you identified as Rachel

      • RobDeer

        6’9 with the afro. Ah, Fletch. He truly defines grace under pressure.

        • valleyfloorryan

          Yes he does.

      • Bapah

        I AM familiar with the DD pages and you may fall under a slightly different differential diagnosis, or diff.diff. dx.

      • Bapah

        DID

      • doobieibood

        Is that Tommy Lasorda?

        • Anti-Lasorda

          No, no fucking Tommy

      • crawnik

        I love that movie. So many funny one-liners.

    • Lunch_Box

      Sybil? You mean from “Downton Abbey”?

      • DrLefty

        I hope not. It didn’t turn out well for poor Lady Sybil.

  • Michael Scott

    TOP TEN GIANTS SHOCKERS

    * Matt Cain: “Everybody hates me!”
    *Kelby Tomlinson 83 pounds and dying !
    *The Bruce Bochy nobody knows!
    *Brian Sabean- “I killed JFK!”
    *Buster Posey-” Bobby Evans asked me to marry him!”
    *Brandon Belt adopts alien baby!
    *Ty Blach is now a woman!
    *Denard Span’s public sex romp!
    *Proof Phil Nevin poisoned Roberto Kelly!
    *Hunter Pence-” I wire tapped Joe Panik’s bedroom!”

    • Michael Scott

      * Michael Scott- “I’m a retread from Outer Space!”

      • channelclemente

        Waaaay outer space.

        • RobDeer

          Reminds me of that Flintstones band, The Way-Outs.

  • valleyfloorryan

    where’d this rain come from – trying to prune up last of the pistachio variety block and it’s too wet…

    Mets news: Steven Matz to open season on DL. Zach Wheeler to start in rotation.

    Nats: Dusty names Blake Treinen his closer (he’s no Melancon)

    Rangers extend Roogie…

    yada yada

  • 610nm

    The rhythm of baseball:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/sports/baseball/mlb-opening-day.html

    Fun fact in it, Ichiro has batted without a hit exactly 9,000 times.

    • channelclemente

      Talk about being in tune, LOL.

      • 610nm

        It seems to prove the story is worth reading twice!

        • channelclemente

          I try to always read Kepner’s stuff. I like him. I wish the Bay Area had a legitimate paper, he might come here.

          • 610nm

            We live in strange times. The NY Times and WaPo are the truly national newspapers (some might add WSJ). But no one covers the local politics, or prints what street is closed for repair in your home town, except the local paper. The Giants seem to be blessed by having Shulman, Baggs, and Pavlovic as reporters (not ordered by any algorithm), with the occastional drop by from Steward and Dan Brown. The SJMN seems particularly strong.

            On my one visit to San Francisco (seems a very cool city, except for the terrible expense of living there), I had no quarters to buy the Sunday Chronicle from a vending machine. But here comes the guy who puts the papers in the machine. We talk a bit, first about me having no quarters to buy a paper, then about me visiting, and the Giants, and finally he hands me a free copy. So I have a nice memory of the Chronicle. I’m sure I bought the daily paper later that week.

            I do always try to buy the local paper on my trips, to learn something about where I am.

          • valleyfloorryan

            That reminds me: we’re gonna miss the Carl Steward guest appearances. Maybe he can do a guest post for GG.

          • 610nm

            Yea, Carl was a fantastic sub for Baggs, being able to give an overview more than each day’s action. And he seemed to dig interacting with the blog.

            I should have said that I found everyone in SF to be able to carry on a coherent discussion about the Giants: bellhops, cab drivers, etc not just the guy driving the Chronicle truck. Here I am buried in Cubs chat, so that was really refreshing.

    • valleyfloorryan

      This is awesome! Ichiro is amazing. Great read on Jarrin. A few more to go.

      • valleyfloorryan

        Even the Joe West section was great. Wonder what he thinks of Mad Bum.

      • 610nm

        I liked the one about Pujols. That guy was king, and I mean KING, in the Midwest in his Cardinal year. Cubs announcers used to object that he batted every other inning, instead of only once in 9 ABs.

        • valleyfloorryan

          His stats are truly staggering. He walked more than he struck out 10 years in a row, while swatting the cover off the ball. And it wasn’t just because he walked so often, he was striking out at the same rate as Ichiro Suzuki which was usually south of 10% and sometimes in the 7.5% range. Truly phenomenal, both of them.

    • Matthew

      Slappy PJ Stat Of The Day!!!!!!!!

      • JStreet

        A new “thing” here? – “PJs infamous SlapStat™ Of the Day”
        Could be promoted on all the major networks.
        Oh boy, this could really put us on the map.. the SlapMap.

  • channelclemente

    With all the folks like Ortiz and Scully leaving baseball, Tyler Kepner shares his opinion of 6 new ‘custodians’ of The Game.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/sports/baseball/mlb-opening-day.html?hpw&rref=sports&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well

  • I have to ask. What was the show of hands of those who got home, put their feet up on the couch and watched the beginning 1 and a half quarters of the Warrior – Spur game? I wonder now the difference between ESPN’s talking heads or those on TNT that had to rush the marbles in their mouth and several channels lead with “Oh well, gee, yea we know that back to backs are tough and so oh well, too bad about what the score is gonna be….”you know how good SA is and how well Pop had them prepared in order to jump out to 29 to 7”

    Kerr was magnificent IMO. In 90% of early time outs in previous games Kerr draws up plays. Last night for the first 4 time outs – he – spoke to his team about what to give cred to and especially what not to.

    • Matthew

      We Nor Cal folks had the pleasure of Fitz and JB, with no Mark Jackson torture

      • The Oracle

        Barnett is a pleasure. Fitzgerald is the opposite.

      • Keep’n It Real

        I listened on the road via the Sirius NBA station. It was the Spurs announcers (Roye is better), but I enjoyed listening to their excitement…and then their humility.

  • channelclemente

    Baseball players who have been ‘cursed’ by one big mistake for the duration of their careers.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/on-mistakes-and-baseballs-long-memory/

    • Matthew

      Jim Joyce will forever be my favorite umpire because of how he handled the Gallaraga mistake. I’m sad he retired, and if I were the Umpire’s GM, I would offer West, Hernandez and Cuzzi for Joyce and a minor leaguer

      • channelclemente

        It was pretty classy, I’d agree.

      • RobDeer

        A minor leaguer? I’d accept a bag of balls and a fungoe.

  • Mr. Sarcastic
    • HaakAway

      Would it have gone out at Willie Mays Field?

      • Mr. Sarcastic

        Yup. The Kale Garden crowd would have been plunked.

      • Peter Johnson

        He had no problem last year @ Willie Mays field hitting 2 in one game, you just prefer slap hitters !

        • RobDeer

          SlaapAway?

          • Peter Johnson

            I am sick of the BS, that he would not of done well at AT&T Park, look up his minor league numbers he has always hit HRs , where ever he played, People that say that are just defending the Giants for trading him. Lots of players on other teams come to AT&T Park and make it look small, the Giants just do not have any of them on the roster , except Bum. and he does not get the amount of at bats to use his power .

          • RobDeer

            There was nothing wrong with the trade at the time.

          • Peter Johnson

            Short term fix, long term mistake, the Reds did what the Giants did not think out of the box, and turned Duvall into a good defensive outfielder, Leake for 2 months , could of had Duvall in LF for 6 years or more .

          • RobDeer

            Duvall wasn’t the centerpiece of that trade. I guarantee you the Reds didn’t expect it to play out like this. Leake’s career numbers were very good, even better in his AT&T starts. Pretty sure the Giants expected him to stay healthy and pitch well and then re-sign him last year. They weren’t looking at it as a temporary addition. It didn’t go that way. But spare me the Giants were robbed. I highly doubt many, or any, teams were calling us asking about Duvall.

          • Peter Johnson

            They should have been his numbers were better then Pederson of the Dodgers when he was called him up in 2014 , you should change your screen name to Johnny LeMaster instead of Rob Deer !

          • RobDeer

            Can I change it to Boo! ??

          • Peter Johnson

            Sounds good , and more accurate .

          • RobDeer

            I really hope you got that reference.

          • Peter Johnson

            Yes 1 of my older brothers was a fan of Boo!

          • channelclemente

            Only if he died and they buried him there.

          • HaakAway

            If I need a pseudo-handle like RyanFootsRachel does then I will use that one … thnx.

      • The Oracle

        When he hits them, they go out at any field.

    • The Oracle

      That was his 6th lucky HR in 53 spring ABs.

      • RobDeer

        I bit the bullet and drafted him on my fantasy team.

        • The Oracle

          I think it’ll turn out to be a good move.

          • RobDeer

            I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t hit 25 dingers.

          • The Oracle

            He’ll always hit HRs. The only question is what he’ll do with the rest of his ABs.

          • Michael Scott

            He has a real good chance to hit .200.

          • RobDeer

            He’s no Jarrett Parker.

          • Michael Scott

            Who is?

          • Peter Johnson

            Pure Idiot !! Never happened in his career , HATER, Mr Blanco type fan boy !

          • channelclemente

            Look at the pitching he faces, you can bet Mike did.

          • RobDeer

            At least Chef is a pure idiot. That’s the best kind. No artificial flavors.

          • channelclemente

            Mike is a thoughtful twerker of fools and mountebanks.

          • RobDeer

            I’d pay to see Mike twerk.

          • channelclemente

            Mirror mirror on the wall, leave your $$ under the welcome mat.

          • Peter Johnson

            Your a known Hater , who cares what you have to say on the subject, Reds are dumb batting him 4th then , you know better then them right !!

          • channelclemente

            You’re a goofball, so I take your comments accordingly.

          • Peter Johnson

            Your and arrogant fool, no nothing, about crap , but think your an expert .

          • RobDeer

            PJPOTD

          • channelclemente

            LOL. PJ, have chain will travel.

    • valleyfloorryan

      Brandon Moss?

      • RobDeer

        George Foster.

        • valleyfloorryan

          Australian for beer, mate!

      • Mr. Sarcastic

        Refresh – wrong link

  • RobDeer

    The Warriors just might have benefited from Durant going down. It caused everyone to focus on defense, Curry and Klay to find their strokes and gave the bench more floor time to get it together. Ian Clark has really stepped it up and David West has found a groove. I said to Mateo recently he was built for the playoffs and how much more of a help he’d be than Speights. Last nite was evidence of that. Playoff type basketball and he might have been our best player in the 4th. Even Barnes, who I’d grown to despise, will just make our bench that much deeper. Say what you want about him but he plays D and is another guy who’ll help in the grind it out nature of the playoffs. And Iguodala, man oh man. You can see he’s healthier than he’s been in a couple years. All the talking heads LOVE to cite Cleveland’s injuries two years ago while never mentioning Curry, Bogut, and Iggy being hobbled last year. Watching Iggy play thru his back spasms last year was painful. Ok… Sorry for the novel. Sitting in a Denny’s waiting for a radiator hose to be replaced.

    • Keep’n It Real

      Yep…there’s been questions about their toughness these past few years, but I think they found “it” during this without-Durant period. If the Cavs/Warriors meet, I love Barnes toughness (and 5 fouls) against LeBron and anyone else Kerr chooses him to defend. Anyone not Harden (if they ever play the Rockets in the playoffs). There’s enough data from Tuesday night to know Barnes bites on Harden’s 3pt sucker-fakes every time.

      • RobDeer

        The fact SA just beat Cleveland by 29 is also very telling.

        • Keep’n It Real

          I just think they (Cavs) gave up too much defense to acquire offense. We’ll see.

          SA also get Memphis in the 1st round, if things play out as expected. I wouldn’t want that as a first round matchup.

          • RobDeer

            Hell no. I think they’ll give the Spurs all they can handle. They’re similar in so many respects, it’ll be a grind it out series.

  • Mr. Sarcastic

    This is interesting:

    April will also serve as a testing period for a $99 Plus-1 Ballpark Pass, which will give standing-room-only access to the purchaser and a friend for 13 games (all except Opening Day).
    “It offers the younger generation the flexibility that they’re looking for,” Baer said. “You can meet up with friends with this pass. We think it’s sort of where the world’s going for some segment of our fans.”

    So for less than 4 bucks each, you and a friend can get inside the park for 13 games. I’m sure the Giants are counting on those folks to unload a lot more cash on beers and hot dogs while they’re in there. Pretty good idea I think, except that the concourses will be even more crowded than ever…

    http://m.giants.mlb.com/news/article/221463940/giants-unveil-plans-for-opening-day-and-more/

    • Andres The Forever Giant

      Disabled Me standing is a non-starter, so I would do what the Giants hope these fans do, upgrade seats as soon as I could access them with the At Bat Ballpark phone app!

  • Peter Johnson

    Ken Rosenthal just tweeted Neil Ramirez will opt out if not on Giants 25 man roster, so not looking good for me in My Guy contest .

  • There is nothing like that magical connection between two souls. (The Oracle even knows)

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/30/qa-with-denard-span-giants-center-fielder-found-love-in-the-offseason/

    • Matthew

      GREAT story…watch Span flourish this season…

  • channelclemente

    A sound check, SMH in wonder. He just woke up. Must have been a heck of a dream.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grBmQwLSlDw

    • Matthew

      Loved him…loved. So glad we were left with his amazing music

  • channelclemente

    The Cubs policy of renewal. Tanking.

    and other burning questions in the baseball world.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-the-home-run-back-will-the-shift-ever-die-and-8-more-burning-baseball-questions/

  • Keep’n It Real

    Congratulations, Greek Giant!

    According to the AutoNation Free Wi-Fi Service, you are running an “Adult Content Site” here. I tried to access your website (while waiting for some brakes to be reworked) and I was denied because http://www.togetherweregiants.com is apparently a place where you can find some adult-nasty stuff.

    Kudos…you have officially made it! :-))

    • channelclemente

      LOL. Dodger hacking.

    • RobDeer

      I blame Peachy.

      • channelclemente

        Ice cream fetishism?

        • RobDeer

          Complete with hot fudge.

          • channelclemente

            Butterscotch.

          • RobDeer

            Get your own fantasy. Hater.

          • Matthew

            Butterscotch is slappy. Earl Weaver loved fudge

          • RobDeer

            Terry f*%#*g Crowley?!? He’s lucky to have a job!!

          • channelclemente

            That sounds, well, painful.

    • HaakAway

      Rash of auto repair going on here (RobDeer’s radiator hose below). I am going to limit my driving the rest of the day.

      • RobDeer

        Now we’re getting really adult-nasty, talking about my radiator hose.

        • HaakAway

          Do not even mention lube jobs …

          • RobDeer

            Well, now I don’t have to.

  • ********

  • Punter Hence and Rexi ….

    ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=yonqoD9wMWA​

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj6cRkFWl04

    • Keep’n It Real

      They crack me up

  • …..

  • DrLefty

    Did y’all see where Rougned Odor got $49.5 million…AND these two horses?

    https://twitter.com/sbnationmlb/status/847575393771036672

    • RobDeer

      I can’t wait for him to knock one out like Karras in Blazing Saddles.

      • RobDeer

        After naming him Jose, of course.

        • Matthew

          Eff….I stepped on your joke

          • RobDeer

            Gonna have to be a little quicker, slappy.

          • Matthew

            Beauty totally disagrees

          • RobDeer

            Hahaha. Your stamina is known far and wide.

          • channelclemente

            That’s stance is known far and wide.

          • RobDeer

            He really needs to close his stance and pull the friggin’ ball.

          • channelclemente

            He’s more skilled with the putter, I’ve heard him brag.

          • DrLefty

            SMH. No wonder poor KIR can’t access this sleazy blog in the auto repair shop.

          • RobDeer

            Hey!! I’m in an auto repair shop!!

    • Peter Johnson

      CC does not like him he hit 33 HRs like Duvall , needs to go the other way more and bunt more !

      • Skweezplay55

        Give yourself up, move the runner over. Hahaha

      • channelclemente

        To be accurate, “CC” doesn’t think he can sustain 33 HR/year. Why, he hit 10 the second half. BTW, did you ever look at Duvall’s power platoon splits?

        • Peter Johnson

          I have followed him for years , and do not need to , power hitters are always streaky,Belt has power streaks , Posey , study game logs players get hot hit 10 in a month, then have cold months .

          • channelclemente

            Taking 5 months off is a tad more than streaky. Someone with more patience than me should journey over to Brooks and see what type of pitches he hit for HR, and off whom instead of letting a favorite narrative or anecdotally driven hope inform their POV.

    • Matthew

      He named them Jose and Bautista

      • DrLefty

        I’m a little hazy on animal science, but that looks like a mama horse.

        • Matthew

          She’s “Bautista”!

  • channelclemente
    • DrLefty

      Just texted that to Mr. L. Fasten your seatbelts. Will there be an early a.m. Tweet about the “failing” Wall Street Journal?

      • channelclemente

        He’s looking at 20+ years in the slammer on a conspiracy to commit kidnapping, if Woolsey is credible.

        • Michael Scott

          Does the story include that Flynn will testify on condition of immunity from criminal prosecution? Next- the lawyering up begins. Manafort already has.

    • paul in p.v.
    • Foothills A-rye-o

      This has been one tremendous reality TV show. It is the most entertaining reality show of all time. The ratings are off the charts. You won’t know what is going to hit you next. It’s huge.

  • HaakAway

    TWEETER still missing on the new look Blog here but the line-up is out with Nunez at 3B and Marrero in LF … all else who you would expect to start.

    Test for Nunez’s shoulder with maybe KT’s 25-Man job on the line?

    • Peter Johnson

      Yes, and if Marrero can handle LF at AT&T Park .

  • Peter Johnson

    Noticed Panik is batting 8th tonight vs a LHP and was platooned late last year vs LHP, I do not remember him struggling vs LHP in the past .

  • Foothills A-rye-o

    Can you hear Jimi talkin’ to you?

    https://vimeo.com/177588590

  • Foothills A-rye-o

    Hope Span has a great year, even better than his 2nd half last year.

    Baggs has a nice interview. May it be true. That he is in a good place and ready to rope some line drives.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/30/qa-with-denard-span-giants-center-fielder-found-love-in-the-offseason/

    • Efrain

      Whatever he says in an interview or whatever a writer like Baggs writes makes no difference till he gets out there during the season.

      That’s why I don’t read interviews, mostly all fluff for fanboys.

      • Foothills A-rye-o

        I hear that, brother Efrain. I might be a Denard Span fanboy, so I naturally clicked to find out more about the man they call Span.

        • HaakAway

          I got drawn into that story too. It probably just messes up my RuthlessFakeGMness™ if I see these players as human beings.

      • HaakAway

        Let’s go with FanMan™.

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          can you TM Denard Span FanMan for me?

          • HaakAway

            I thought of the power of that phonetics too.
            Option button and #2 should give you the ™.

          • Matthew

            If he responds as we hope, then we should also belong to the AnnSpanFanMan club

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            That’s good. Tell Mr. Beverige that I’m a big fan. Recently acquired total of 2.5 liters; wife has made Buddha’s Hand infusions. Familiar with that citrus? I wanted something of high quality for the task.

          • Matthew

            Not familiar, but it sounds therapeutic!

          • Foothills A-rye-o
      • Matthew

        Baseball is 90% Mental. The other half is Efrain complaining.

        • Brownie

          All sports are 90% mental. You know that

          • Matthew

            Not a Yogi fan, huh?

          • Brownie

            Yogi can kiss my brown butt

          • Matthew

            Mrs. Brownie The Raider Fan won’t allow that

          • channelclemente

            Is that a short guy joke?

          • HaakAway

            Yogi did have his nose in everyone’s business …

        • totalfan62

          Calling other posters fanboys: Efrain’s #1 troll move.

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            I’ve been called many things, and nothing cuts me quite like “fanboy” 🙁

        • Efrain

          I just know that these types of interviews at this point in the season are to make fans feel better.

          But just because Span gave a good interview does not mean he will start hitting ropes to all fields. his production the last few seasons and his recent history of injuries paint a different picture.

          Hell, Cain could say he wants to get back and be a front end starter. But we know he has not been that for 4+ years. So in the end it’s just words right?

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            You are right. It’s just words. And talk is cheap. Action speaks louder than words.

          • Matthew

            Well, I think that athletes finding personal happiness have a very good chance of improved performance. Not saying it’s magic, but I found the story heartening and will hope it does help him find improved results….

      • Sgbssfg

        Then I must be a fan, no gender implied.

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      Will Smith hath been operated on, successfully. Actual results TBD 2018.

    • Michael Scott

      TWG polling shows that Span is 3rd on the CF depth chart behind Gorkys and KT.

    • Sgbssfg

      Great interview. Definite My Guy possibility.

      • HaakAway

        Oh, tipping your hand on a good pick actually.

    • paul in p.v.

      Without reading the article, Span has definitely passed the eye test this Spring. Hope he proves all of us stupid. And Chef smart.

      • paul in p.v.

        p.s. One benefit of his added speed and quickness is, his arm is less suspect.

        • Michael Scott

          I heard that he’s now fast enough to hand the ball to the cut off man.

          • channelclemente

            Steel toed shoes, and a drop kick.

    • Bapah

      It’s funny, but in so many instances, we have no idea what these guys are all about and who they really are.

      • paul in p.v.

        I think if Span shaved everyone would say, ‘the guy lost 20# and is in GREAT shape this year.’

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          seems the Mrs. hasn’t made him shave it off. She’s no Delilah.

  • channelclemente
    • totalfan62

      Yep, I’m good–and I’m assuming you mean me! 😊
      The portion of I-85 that collapsed is nowhere near our NW Atlanta suburbs. Sad for our city, though.

      • channelclemente

        TF, one never knows. That seemed a wicked fire.

        • totalfan62

          I’ll update as more info becomes available.

      • Matthew

        Atta babe

  • Bapah

    XXX Warning
    People, everyone needs to be fully dressed by game time.

    For your information, I looked up the definition of XXX, or triple X and here’s what I found.

    “XXX – the cardinal number that is the product of ten and three”

    • Matthew

      I looked it up, too…but mine said “A poorly reviewed Vin Diesel movie”.

      I’m so confused….naked, and afraid

      • Bapah

        You have an hour and a half to get dressed.

      • channelclemente

        It’s your love of fudge that will mark you.

        • Bapah

          Ewwww, no wonder we have an adult rating here.

        • Matthew

          Where did THAT come from.

          Together We’re Gross

          • channelclemente

            Earl Weaver.

  • Michael Scott

    Yusmeiro Petit gets the start for the Angel’s tonight.

    • 12xu

      Thanks for that info, didn’t know he left the Nationals as a FA after last season. The Halos play the Doyers at 7 at The Big A.

  • Bapah

    OK, George, I think we need a new thread or a bath, This is getting filthy.
    As Huey said, “We need a new rug”.

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      So does The Dude.

      • Matthew

        Is that Maxine’s nickname?

  • Foothills A-rye-o

    I didn’t see lineup below. Nunez playing 3B? That’s huge.

    https://twitter.com/PavlovicNBCS/status/847571138183966721

    • paul in p.v.

      Ayup!

      • paul in p.v.

        VAMOS, GIGANTES!!!

        (Dammit I miss VGF.) (DGG) (Alvise) (et. al)

        • Bapah

          I do too. Let’s hope Opening Day brings a reunion.
          P.S. there are a few in the et.al. category, but you nailed it with those three.

    • channelclemente

      Interesting LU. I like it.

  • The Oracle

    Giants-A’s tv schedule?

    • The Oracle

      That was actually me thinking I was Googling that question. Disturbing.

      • Matthew

        Speaking of disturbed, YouTube “Disturbed Sound of Silence”. Incredible rendition.

        • The Oracle

          I immediately downloaded the song after watching that.

          • Matthew

            Isn’t that incredible?

          • The Oracle

            Paul Simon likes it, too.

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          disturbing times called for Disturbed?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

        • Bapah

          That’s quite old, is it not? I seem to remember from years ago.

          • Matthew

            Simon in ’65…. Draiman in ’16.

          • Bapah

            I thought I had seen it further back than that. Senility has its own reward.

  • The Oracle

    My new 75 inch TV was delivered today, upon which I want to watch the game, but with the stand affixed to it it’s too wide and awkward to lift into position by myself so that I can set it up. First world problems…

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      Definitely.

    • Michael Scott

      75″ TV?
      So you live in a trailer park?

      • The Oracle

        Not yet.

    • channelclemente

      LOL. I bet you can smell grass in that sort of setup.

    • Matthew

      That will make Samardzija’s nose awfully scary

    • DrLefty

      What did you get? We’ve been thinking about something bigger. Aging eyes…

      • The Oracle

        Samsung UN75KS9000, which was their top-of-the-line 2016 model. On Amazon, its now 33% cheaper than it was at Christmas. Probably still too expensive, but I don’t spend a lot of money on other things (like fun, for example). I’m not sure what you feel like spending on a TV, but it’s a nice one.

  • Matthew

    The Giants special airing on CSN right now is fantastic

  • Foothills A-rye-o

    Feel like I’ve been waiting all day for the Bay Bridge exhibition game. What’s up with that?

    • Matthew

      Baseball, Rye…

    • 610nm

      It probably has something to do with a coke bottle in the bleachers, instead of a cactus.

      • Foothills A-rye-o

        It has a lot to do with more conventional conditions at sea level I think.

        • 610nm

          And the changing of the four seasons: regular season, postseason, the black time, spring training, and thence back again to the first day of the year: Opening Day. It is almost upon us.

  • Matthew

    Do you think Jaff Decker ended up with that name as a result of a drunk nurse in the maternity ward?

    • 12xu

      Miller just said that it was misspelled by the nurse at the hospital when he was born. But it’s pronounced “Jeff.” Like the Monty Python skit where Graham Chapman played a character whose name was spelled “Luxury Yacht,” but pronounced “Throat Warbler Mangrove.”

      • Matthew

        You mean I called it?!?!?!?

        • 12xu

          You got it. From his Wikipedia entry:
          Decker’s first name is pronounced ‘Jeff’. He was named in honor of his uncle, who died in military service. Decker’s grandfather intended to name his son ‘Jeff’, but the hospital nurse recorded it as ‘Jaff’, and the spelling was passed on to his nephew.[13]
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaff_Decker

          • Matthew

            Life imitates joke

  • Matthew

    PJ commentary on the way…..

  • just peachy.

    Balls flying everywhere…

  • Surf Maui

    How much do I love watching Johnny Cueto pitch? How about some love for Bobby Evans for bringing him to San Francisco

  • Bapah

    I thought it looked different. So much so, I thought at first, this was being played in Oakland. It’s the NEW LIGHTS. Everything looks a little different.

  • earlytimes

    Guess we can assume Marrero has a spot just about locked up??

  • Matthew

    This dude rakes

    • Surf Maui

      Younger Michael Morse– including the “glove”

      • Bapah

        So far he hasn’t screwed up, has he?

        • Surf Maui

          True in 2 innings. Travis Ishikaea in left maybe?

          • Bapah

            I honestly don’t remember any screw ups in ST. I could be way off.

          • Surf Maui

            not exactly

    • 12xu

      Miller’s call on the radio: “Marrero hits it a mile!… If it’s fair, it’s a home run.”… but too bad it was foul.

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      you can’t spell rake without k.

      • Matthew

        You can’t spell foothills without oof

    • Bapah

      Abides (rakes)

  • standardstarboard

    And me? I`m working without a 75″ TV to watch. But man o man, Sunday is near and I am giddy. 162-0. I can feel it. Cain…22-7 and all starting five in the Cy Young balloting.

    • Surf Maui

      I’m in board-/ but exactly how is it possible for the Giants to be 162–0 and Cain be 22-7. Oh, I get it he is traded.

      • standardstarboard

        But, I don`t want to wake up…I like this dream. And anyway, the Giants trade Cain for Giancarlo…and he loses 7 straight when he is a Marlin.

        • Surf Maui

          ow you are talking

          • standardstarboard

            Book it Dan`o.

          • Bapah

            Red Right Returning.

          • standardstarboard

            Atta babe. On the water AND watching opening day…Heaven.

    • Matthew

      Wait… that means 7 losses in the post season if they don’t lose in the regu….oh, never mind

      • Surf Maui

        Seven losses in the post season is great– means at least 3 post season series and 11 wins– eight wins minimum and definite World Series

      • standardstarboard

        Are you messing with my dream? Don`t confuse me…as easy as that is.

  • Surf Maui

    Marraro in left field reminds me of how they supposedly told Willie McCovey about how to play the left field wall– “with a blindfold and a cigarette”

    • paul in p.v.

      Did you see that fly-out almost become an ice-cream cone?

      • Bapah

        Yes, I almost mentioned it and it was a momentary snow cone.

  • channelclemente

    How does Cueto do that?

    • Bapah

      He can blow smoke out of his eyelids too.

  • Appalled7

    Cueto looking in fine form. Can he be both 2nd and 5th in the rotation?

    • Surf Maui

      That’s why the Cubs dreaded the possibility of Game 5

    • paul in p.v.

      Yeah. But why do the Elephants always look like the ’27 Yankees in these BB Series.

      Glug!

  • paul in p.v.

    You have to admit, Kuiper is really fookin’ funny.

  • Surf Maui

    How much did I miss baseball these last 6 months? Then again I have no life

    • Bapah

      My sentiments too, exactly.

    • GermanGiantsFan

      I so missed it too. Although, I had barely time to check in here, I did but never posted. But I am sooo glad it is back, or nearly back for real.

  • Lunch_Box

    So is it offical that MadBum is the Opening Day starter? I don’t know why Bochy tried to keep the suspense a few days ago.

  • Surf Maui

    I even missed Amy G

  • Surf Maui

    Kruk taking about not forgetting the teammates you spent so much time with including winning the WS. Tell that to Pablo Sandoval

    • Lunch_Box

      Or Brian Wilson.

      • Surf Maui

        Forgot him already

        • Matthew

          Who?

          I hated The Beach Boys

      • CaptBrewster

        Who?

  • Surf Maui

    I don’t think Posey makes that play in September

  • Foothills A-rye-o

    Is it sensible to worry about Pence? What if he has one of those years when he rarely is in sync with his swing and hits something like .230/.290/.400 ?

    • Surf Maui

      I’m not worried.

    • Matthew

      Hello, March, my old friend

  • Brownie

    I love you Kruk, but don’t you ever liken Cal Poly and the AAA’s!!

    • just peachy.

      Word.

      • Brownie

        I don’t remember if you told me me, but are you a Cal Poly alum?

        • just peachy.

          Indeed I am!

          • Matthew

            You, Brownie, my son, Weird Al… hmmmm

          • just peachy.

            Don’t forget Laci and Scott Peterson 😉

          • just peachy.

            And John Madden

          • Matthew

            Laci and Scott lived about a mile from us. We’re in the College District, and they were in La Loma….yikes. Beauty saw him soon after he was free on bond when he has Just-For-Men’d hid goatee blonde at a Walgreens. Shifty mofo.

          • just peachy.

            Oh geez.

          • Brownie

            And ozzie

          • Brownie

            Class of 2000 here in EE, you?

          • just peachy.

            Class of 2009, BS in psychology.

    • Surf Maui

      Harvard of the West

      • Brownie

        That is correct

  • Surf Maui

    Its Willie Mays in left field

  • Surf Maui

    Bat and glove– Marraro makes the team. Hopefully he’s not the Brandon Hicks of 2017. Great 6 weeks then 0 for the rest of the season

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      Almost yanked a low, inside pitch out. Double down right field line on pitch up and away. Nice coverage and distribution.

  • steve k

    forget about marrero making the team or not. he should start every game and hit clean up..

    • Matthew

      I say we call him Vladimir

      • steve k

        i’m going to call him babe until he stops hitting..

  • CaptBrewster

    Marrero! I’m sold.

  • CaptBrewster

    That was weirdest B Craw play I’ve ever seen.

  • paul in p.v.

    Heyman was right. Belt better step it up.

    • paul in p.v.

      Bob made up for it on Craws bare-handed play.

    • DrLefty

      Wasn’t Heyman. Some anonymous scout in the SI article.

      • paul in p.v.

        OK. But Heyman’s still a jerk.

        • DrLefty

          Yes. And allergic to capital letters on Twitter for some dumb reason.

  • just peachy.

    Somebody doooo something.

    • Matthew

      First glance made me think you wanted a Giant to defecate on the field

      • just peachy.

        Well, that would definitely be something.

  • Surf Maui

    Do those pants make Blach’s butt look big?

    • Matthew

      No, but his butt does

      • paul in p.v.

        That’s a good thing in a control lefty.

  • Surf Maui

    Blach dealing– Cain sweating

  • paul in p.v.

    Blach’s gotta step it up. We’re not paying him $79M for nuthin.’

    • DrLefty

      You mean $0.79.

  • DrLefty

    Krukow talking about how “if Blach didn’t win the fifth spot,” he was preparing for the bullpen.

    Like he ever had a fair shot to “win” that spot. It’s bad enough they’re making the wrong choice for the wrong reasons. But the BS and the lying all spring–continuing to this moment–that they were ever going to do the right thing–that’s what really fries me.

    I’d respect Giants’ leadership more if they’d said from the outset: “Look, it’s Cain’s spot no matter what, and we don’t care if he deserves it or if the fans like it. We’re going to try to get our money’s worth out of him so we don’t look stupid.”

    I don’t like it, but at least it’s honest.

    • paul in p.v.

      No sheet, Lefty.

    • GermanGiantsFan

      totally agree!

    • Matthew

      It’s those times when, as much as I love Krukow’s loyalty, I wish he would shut the f up. It’s insulting and he knows better.

  • Surf Maui

    Gotta start building up my sleep stamina for the regular season to stay up past 1 am

    • DrLefty

      I’m in Illinois and need to make myself go to bed soon. Long day tomorrow.

      • Surf Maui

        No excuse

        • DrLefty

          I don’t have to be anywhere until 10, and there’s a Starbucks right downstairs.

          • Surf Maui

            You get a pass because it’s still exhibition– but regular season– no way

          • DrLefty

            I’m going to Delaware next week–Eastern time zone. We’ll see how I do.

          • just peachy.

            Also known as Dela-where?

          • DrLefty

            Flying Southwest nonstop from Sacramento to Baltimore and then Amtrak to the Joseph R. Biden station in Wilmington, DE. Not too bad.

          • just peachy.

            Yeah, Delaware’s not too bad. I spent my childhood growing up in Philly (so we like to give DE a hard time), and spent a lot of time in and around Delaware Bay. Camped a couple times in south DE – Cape Henlopen was a great place to watch horseshoe crabs spawn on the beach, with the occasional dolphin jumping out of the ocean in the background. But the sand fleas there will eat you alive.

          • DrLefty

            First time there for me, not counting rolling through on Amtrak a couple times. I’ll just be at the University of Delaware for a couple days.

          • Surf Maui

            Second prize is a week at the U of D

          • Surf Maui

            Harvard of the Cheasapeke

          • Matthew

            I thought it was Heald College of the Chesapeake

          • DrLefty

            I’m trying to talk someone into taking me to Camden Yards for a game after my workshop. The Orioles are home playing the Yankees, and I don’t fly home until the next day. I even have the right color gear!

          • giantc

            Wilmington is a pit though.

          • Surf Maui

            If my recovery from back surgery continues I’m headed for San Diego and OPENING DAY!

          • DrLefty

            We’ll be at Opening Day, too. I know Mr. Sarcastic’s going, and the Crawniks. Fingers crossed for you!

          • Surf Maui

            Thanks. Improved a lot last few days. Last week I would have said no way but now I’m hoping for some Giants magic

          • totalfan62

            I’ve officially crossed over from stay-up-late to record-and-watch-the-next-morning mode, on “school nights”, anyway. We’re up at 5:30 AM every weekday, so bedtime is 9:30-10:00…or a few minutes before first pitch in PDT games.

          • PerSpeier35

            So you like the East coast games. I’m screwed for those, with the job and commute I usually get home at 8:00, after many of those games have ended. Can catch a few innings at the gym though.

          • Matthew

            Where u at?

          • DrLefty

            Champaign-Urbana. Two days of workshops and consulting at the University of Illinois.

          • Matthew

            Nice….thought you might be hanging in the Loop, but I guess not.

          • DrLefty

            That would be more fun, but this is probably more productive. 🙂

          • totalfan62

            The Fighting Illini!

      • Matthew

        I can relate….

        • DrLefty

          I bet you can!

      • The Oracle

        Sleep is overrated. You need to stay up to watch the end of such an important game.

      • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

        youre a jet setter

  • 12xu

    The A’s released Alejandro De Aza a couple of days ago. This spring he hit .300 with a .404 OBA. He’s 32, you think the Giants will dumpster-dive him?

    • Surf Maui

      Another lefty? bat. No

  • paul in p.v.

    Ok, I’m officially worried about Hunterpence.

    • Lunch_Box

      It wouldn’t hurt to look at younger, proven OFs on the trade market in the next few years. Pence and Span aren’t getting any younger.

    • Matthew

      Too early to worry. Wait until game 20 at least…still March. Ohmmmmmm.

    • Matthew

      Pence is back!!!

    • Andres The Forever Giant

      I was glad to see Reverend Chop Chop make an appearance tonight, but Hunter is still pulling off the ball badly, like he always does during his slumps. His BP today focused on hitting to RF, so he realizes the Arizona Yuccadoo approach isn’t going to get it done!

      • paul in p.v.

        Gracias.

  • Surf Maui

    Crawford is an RBI machine

  • just peachy.

    Great pop-up KT! Ha.

  • The Oracle

    TV looks good, but it’s pretty to tell that I’m not married…big TV but a completely empty living room.

    • Matthew

      Televisions rarely have irreconcilable differences… you’re in good shape

      • The Oracle

        The relationship is off to a great start.

        • Matthew

          The magic of a mute button…..

          • 610nm

            uff-dah, Matthew.

  • GermanGiantsFan

    So, we are officially back! I am so excited to see you all here. I know many of you have been around all off-season, but I was just too busy to really post, I just came here to read a bit. Anyways, I am super excited that baseball is back (nearly back), back on TV with the near final team. My baseball off-season activity was to win a bid on a basket with Giants stuff at a silent auction, which has a Panic signed baseball in it! Very cool.

    • paul in p.v.

      Bienvenidos!

    • Surf Maui

      Willkomen

  • paul in p.v.

    Craws looked a tad tubby coming down the line there. Better be careful or he gonna find hisself @ 3B soon.

    • earlytimes

      It must be the pants.

  • DrLefty

    OK, signing off. Bring it home, y’all. If the Giants cough this one up, The Oracle will have to return his new TV or throw it in Pacman’s pool.

    • Matthew

      Better be big f#*king pool

    • Surf Maui

      They’ll boo Melacon if he coughs this up. Besides, Casilla is on the A’s now

    • paul in p.v.

      p.s. Your Man Georgie’s dealing.

  • Surf Maui

    I hope to be back in action well before May, 2018

  • Matthew

    Kontos with a sweet goodnight kiss for the professor!!!

    • Surf Maui

      Good morning, Good Afternoon, and Good Night, Dr. L

      signed

      G. Kontos

  • Looks like it’s gonna take the ball dude to spark the Giants to a rally.

  • just peachy.

    See, now Pagan would be useful to take the dude down

  • Matthew

    Now that Dr. Lefty went to bed, I can tell TO this ” great to have a wife to appreciate your jokes” story.

    I just had a fantastic, earth shattering, shake-with-chills sneeze, and I said “next best thing to an orgasm”… ..

    first she said “you f%#king pig”, and then laughed.

    No TV would do that

    • The Oracle

      My former fiancée once complained that I wasn’t paying enough attention to her when she was asleep…and I’m not kidding.

      • GermanGiantsFan

        I guess this is why she is your former fiancee!?

        • The Oracle

          Nah…I put up with that.

      • Surf Maui

        It’s like in the movie Mystery Men. The Invisible Boy was only invisible when you weren’t looking at him

      • DrLefty

        How did she know?

        • Bapah

          She wasn’t awakened in flagrante delicto.

      • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

        My ex wife and i broke up mainly because of her snoring and im not kidding! I started sleeping in the office room and from that point on we started to separate a bit and it just became worse!

    • Surf Maui

      Remond me not to be near you if you have a cold

    • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

      Because she went to bed lolololololol!

  • Matthew

    See that oppo-Brownie couple?

  • just peachy.

    Alguacil’s face seems to have healed well.

    • DrLefty

      It was nice to see Agui out there.

  • paul in p.v.

    Did you hear that? 39K+ at an exhibition game?!?

  • The Oracle

    Melancon is going to take all the drama and excitement out of 9th innings.

    • Surf Maui

      One hopes–I’m getting way too old for torture

      • The Oracle

        Much better this way, but still…there was something about Casilla blowing a save by falling off the mound that was special.

        • Surf Maui

          Spare me please

    • GermanGiantsFan

      I am sure the Giants will have enough excitement left for us all season! It’s never easy with them 🙂

    • 12xu

      Thank goodness! And the yakker that he struck out Lowrie on sounded gnarly on the radio.

    • DrLefty

      I thought K & K’s comments about that were interesting. One of them said that Melancon had been described as “boring.” The other said “Yeah, we didn’t have many ‘boring’ ninth innings last season.” I don’t know if they meant to throw shade on Casilla–I think they were just trying to be funny–but there it was.

      I also thought how odd/sad it must have felt to Casilla to sit in the visitors’ dugout at AT & T and watch the guy who replaced him get the save.

    • Sgbssfg

      And Boch will have to get back on the treadmill due to fewer walks to the mound.

  • Surf Maui

    Night all. Catch you tomorrow

    • GermanGiantsFan

      Gute Nacht!

  • CaptBrewster

    I always enjoy a victory over those damn A’s. Giants! Go!!

  • buyselltrade

    Good game for Giants tonight.

    Looks like Nunez is going to be ready for opening day (which I am eagerly awaiting).

  • Ty Blach looked so pissed he’s not the fifth starter.

    • earlytimes

      He’s happy to be on the 25 and contributing. He’s needed in the pen with Smith out and Osich searching.

      • giantc

        Blach should be the fifth starter — he had a solid Spring and dominated the Dodgers last year. Cain’s best start was giving up 4 runs in 5+ innings. Cain will kill the pen. Even if he does okay against the PAAAdres in his first start it will be a mirage.

        I like what the Cardinals GM said when Kolten Wong complained about a potential platoon — he said starting on Sunday we are playing to win.

    • 2holehitting

      Rookie sit down and shut the .. up,

  • RobDeer

    Watching a recording of the game. I know it’s still ST but the game is in SF. Is it asking too much to have a friggin radar gun? Nope, nope. Not a regular season game, can’t have that information disseminated. Baffling.

  • DrLefty

    Interesting that Bochy’s now saying LF will be a platoon, after specifically saying earlier that they didn’t want to platoon Parker and Williamson. He explained that in Mac’s case, he hits righties well, so a platoon wouldn’t have made sense. Makes me wonder what would have happened if Mac hadn’t gotten hurt. Everyone assumed Parker had won the job, but then Parker went into a tailspin at the plate the last couple weeks.

    Anyway, Mac has to take all of this as a good sign once he’s healthy. Of course, now he has two guys to beat out (Parker and Marrero), not just Parker.

    • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

      Looks like LF will be empty again this season huh DR? I just cant understand how production can be so bad there and you do not address it lmbao!

      • DrLefty

        This will be 11 years in a row with a different guy in LF on Opening Day. That’s…remarkable.

        • HaakAway

          You know what they say, “11th time is the charm.”

        • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

          You’re pulling my leg! It takes a talented GM- Org to pull that off!

        • HaakAway

          To be fair, this may be the first time a true prospect was out there to start the season. None of the guys you named fit that.

          • DrLefty

            Fred Lewis (2009) was actually considered quite a good prospect, back in the day. But, well…

        • Moooooooooose

          So they’ve addressed it 11 times!! More, actually!

          • Matthew

            20!!!!!!!!!!

        • Noce

          I would bet at a casino that next year will be 12 for 12.

          • DrLefty

            Me too.

      • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

        Pence/ Parker in the corners lets see what happens lololol

      • livfreerdi

        Because they made a marketing decision to overpay for a closer rather than address their biggest need from a baseball perspective.

        • 22’sSweetSwing

          Really, remind me of all the good LF available this off season? They won 3 WD with meh LF players.

    • Skweezplay55

      Having three guys competing could be a good thing. It’s a long season, and you need a lot of very good baseball players to win games consistently.

      • DrLefty

        Well, you could look at it both ways. On the one hand, Bochy’s stubborn loyalty to Pagan playing LF no matter what got frustrating at times last year. So it could be nice to have some real competition and choices.

        On the other hand, the last time they opened with a LF platoon was 2013 (Torres and Blanco), and that didn’t go well. Pagan got injured, so Blanco took over in CF, and they had an incredible parade of mediocrity the rest of the year–Kensuke Tanaka, Brett Pill, Jeff Francoeur, Roger Kieschnick, and I’m probably forgetting a half-dozen others.

        • Peter Johnson

          Pill was gone by 2013.

          • DrLefty

            Nope. In fact, they called him up from the minors to play 1B while Belt sat out a series in Philly to work on changing his grip. It was right around the trade deadline, and we all thought Belt was being traded.

            Can’t believe I finally got you on a factual error. You’re better than I am, and I’m pretty good.

        • Skweezplay55

          Yeah, that’s true, and Bochy’s thing about playing the hot hand more often disintegrates into lack of confidence in younger players and over-reliance on veterans who USED to be good but can’t get it done anymore. I hear you. Still, all three of these guys must know that they have a real shot at lots of playing time if they work hard and put into action all the things they have learned through their many years at lower levels. All three are ready for this. I’m really looking forward to seeing who of these three seizes this opportunity. It’s not outside the realm of possibility (though a little far-fetched) that come June, these three guys could be the everyday OFers.

          • Moooooooooose

            And that’s why Bochy got run out of San Diego! Of course, they haven’t made the postseason since after Bochy got them there 4 times (out of the 5 since 1969), so I guess that mitigates his horribleness somewhat.

        • paul in p.v.

          Bochy: “I didn’t want to get into a platoon with (Parker and Williamson) because that’s not where a platoon makes sense,” Bochy said. “Williamson, he hits righties better than lefties. Plus you’re slowing down (Parker’s) development. It’s different with the guys we have.”

          http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/giants-will-platoon-right-handed-bat-parker-left-field

          So it’s ok to platoon Parker with Marrero, but not with Mac? I’m not a huge fan, but I think we’ll see Parker K so much in limited ABs that he’ll be a bust.

    • Peter Johnson

      Wrong, they the Giants talking heads , always said no platoon with Mac and Jarret, but yes to platoon with Parker and a veteran LF, did not want to have Mac as a part time player, either starter in San Francisco are Sacramento, worried about his development, even know he is getting older .

      • Efrain

        the guys is going to be 27 in July, the word development stops being an excuse at sometime.

  • Bapah

    Here’s an interesting headline.

    “Melania Trump Has Become so Reclusive Even the Paparazzi Have Stopped Looking for Her”

  • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

    Hey who needs B Belt to hit when he can draw walks and us Gs fans are just fine with that lol!

    • Matthew

      You love you some Belt!

      • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

        Lol

    • Efrain

      as long as he is not anywhere in the 3-4-5 spots where he’s supposed to actually swing the bat.

      • VINTAGEBLAK aka Baldheadslik1

        Exactly he seems like he’s scared to swing that mf bat! He’s very happy to take a walk.

  • Bapah

    Hate to fly? Here’s one more thing to worry about.
    “An AA pilot died on Wednesday during the final phase of landing…”

    • DrLefty

      Holy crap, I flew on AA on Wednesday. I saw some pilots at the airport in the TSA line. Some of them looked pretty old, and I have to say it crossed my mind that they looked old.

      • channelclemente

        One of their co-pilots dropped dead during a takeoff recently.

        • Bapah

          2? One on takeoff and one on landing? Really? That’s attrition the hard way. (for everybody, especially passengers)

  • Anti-Lasorda

    It will be interesting to see if Marrero can makes the most of this and put Morse into retirement.

  • Anti-Lasorda

    How many of you haters are rooting for Cain to pull a quad this weekend?
    And if he does to you go Blach or Beede?

    • HaakAway

      We need a more accurate word than “hater” … too much of that going around these days anyway.
      How about “Burned-Out-Hopers”?
      If Cain shows he did reGain, we will ride that Train.
      If Cain keeps going down the Drain, to keep sending him out there is Insane.

      • Noce

        That works for me.

      • Mr. Sarcastic

        The first 20,000 fans will receive a Matt Cain Dr. Seuss bobble head!!

        • The Oracle

          When you tap on Cain’s bobble head, it snaps its head to the right and looks out toward imaginary bleachers.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            LOL

          • Andres The Forever Giant

            On a 2-strike count with 2 outs (true even in the good times)!

    • Foothills A-rye-o
    • Keep’n It Real

      I would agree with Haak on the word “hater”, but I can understand (without judgement) how easy it is to use that word. It’s crazy how much people use it.

      If anyone is rooting against Cain, it would be to continue what most of us believe to be his true performance-level at this stage of his career…so the Giants move on from their usual behavior of rewarding based upon past performances (and perhaps money spent).

      As I’ve mentioned on more than one occasion, he’s been a good Giant…but his contract runs out at the end of this season and they will not be signing him to come back at this level. It makes no sense to waste precious learning opportunities on Cain, when Blach and Beede are the future of this team.

      • DrLefty

        Great comment except I’d replace “precious learning opportunities” with “precious winning opportunities.”

        • Keep’n It Real

          Noted and agree 🙂

        • channelclemente

          When you buy into the tribal schtick used by the Giants, you buy the whole package.

        • Bapah

          I listened to Pav’s interview with Cain just yesterday and, honestly, I was impressed. This is the longest tenured Giant on the team and all of this is not lost on the guy. I’m glad I took the position I did when I did.

    • winebaroness27

      Not me…
      They need Blach in the bullpen

  • Anti-Lasorda

    Is the only decision left Hill or KT?

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      I was wondering if it was between Hill or Marrero. Hill probably plays LF as well as Marreo, has less pop, but has the ability to play 3B and 2B. I dunno, I suppose Marrero is a lock the way he didn’t embarass himself in LF and has shown a knack to thwack the ball.

      • Skweezplay55

        If it’s Hill or Marrero, I gotta give it to Marrero.

    • HaakAway

      Depends on how Nunez feels this morning. If he needs the DL then both Hill and KT make it.

      • crawnik

        Nunez is scheduled to play 4 or 5 innings at SS on Saturday. If he plays well, then I would think KT gets optioned.

        • HaakAway

          The Business of Baseball… reality. The Giants have Depth then.

  • Noce

    I’m ready for the season to begin. We split the tickets and I have my 20 games. My personal winter training is over I run my first race on Sunday. Spring is always my favorite season, let the fun begin.

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      marathons? half marathons? whattya running these days? must be those trumpeters lungs.

      • Noce

        Sprints as in Spartan Sprint, 5k 20 plus obstacles. First of the season, and to be honest my first OCR.

        Edit: Trumpeters are wimps I play something akin to a Tuba.

        • Foothills A-rye-o

          Nice. Did you play any centerfield in the day?

          • Noce

            Some in LL but mostly I caught because we had really good athletes everywhere, and I called a good game and could take a hit at home. My favorite was playing the infield and in the hey day of racquetball I had some needed quickness to play it. I come from a long line of catchers. My grandfather caught for a semi pro team in Merced in the 20.

        • Noce

          Of course this guy gets a pass on the trumpet comment. I dare you to tell me when he breaths.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwdy8AGb63o

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            Classic. Isn’t trumpet your instrument?

          • Noce

            No I play something called a Contra Base, big 30 plus pound horn that sits on your shoulder. I am in the market for a tuba.

            A cool story is I have connected with family in SD, he is my mom’s cousin. Because of past things my family did for him we connected on FB. He sees I play music and sends me a family heirloom from his mom. It’s a banjo from the 20’s used to play jazz in Nawlins. My son sees this and says I’ll play it and in five minuets is picking out the Dueling Banjos tune. That is now the 5 instrument he plays. Dam kids I struggled with 2.

          • Foothills A-rye-o

            very cool. sorry for the misunderstanding. okay, finally, how many times have you played this song?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InjF8xj93LU

          • Noce

            Actually never. This I played about a 1000 times. I flash by in the back.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTFFRw8oMek&list=PLddvPdkhL-DknHjOJRtwSm8o5MlXIHDLc&index=6

  • Skweezplay55

    I am so glad that Buster Posey does not have to wear his catching gear in every commercial anymore.

  • Efrain

    Would be ironic and funny that even though Pagan is not yet signed, he ends up having a better season then any of the SF Left fielders.

    • The Oracle

      It’s kind of hard to have a good season when you’re not playing. Maybe he’ll have a great season on his couch. He can invite Kaepernick over and they can binge watch something together.

      • Efrain

        oh he’ll sign soon, enough teams will start having injuries and LF starting off badly.

        • The Oracle

          I’m sure a declining player in his mid-30s who chooses to sit in the post season to protect his pending free agency will be in high demand. That choice really worked out well.

          • Efrain

            You have no idea if he was too hurt to go out and play effectively., and when he didn’t you were one of the main people on this blog spreading such. As you do with other payers you don’t like and your stupid minions take your word over reality.

          • DrLefty

            TO has stupid minions? TO has any minions?

          • Mr. Sarcastic
          • Matthew

            Dude, you’re quick

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            That’s what she said…

          • Ouch

          • channelclemente

            Tiny hands alert.

          • The Oracle

            That’s right. I’m nearly an outcast…a man without minions. Completely minion-less.

          • Noce

            So TO is the real Gru?

          • channelclemente

            Hamburger, hold the minions. Tale of the lonesome bun.

          • The Oracle

            Of course I had no idea why he sat. I was on my couch, just like he is now. But it only took just a little bit of reading between the lines of what was written about it to know that’s how his teammates felt, and they were obviously there. But you’re probably usually to busy spouting off to read the lines themselves, let alone between them.

          • Keep’n It Real

            It was reported…and not just by Baggarly…that some Giants players weren’t happy with his decision not to give it a try. Writers know a lot more about things and don’t write them…and I could easily see that “some players” knew a little more about Pagan’s diagnosis too.

          • Efrain

            that’s just heresay, everyone knows he had back issues and no one on the team other than the actual person or Doctors would know the extent of any lingering effects. The premise here is he is such a diva he wanted to sit out for what, not look bad? That’s silly, if he is such a diva he would want the national attention given in the post season.

            That’s ridiculous in it’s very assertion. Pagan is the type of player that always needed to go 100 miles an hour to be effective, which always got him hurt since his early Mets days. If he felt he could not give it his all and be effective, maybe it was better to have a healthy player out there.

            The quitting word is just thrown around too much without any real backup information.

          • Keep’n It Real

            Now you’re being a fanboy.

            Writers don’t throw that type of stuff out there without merit, because we’ve seen how the Giants react when someone writes BS about what goes on inside the clubhouse. You also didn’t see anyone denying it.

          • Efrain

            wrong usage of term fanboy. All I’m stating is the guy may have been more injured than anyone here knows. That is all.

          • The Oracle

            I don’t seem to remember Pagan being a “100 miles an hour” kind of guy.

          • The Oracle

            For example, when he got near a wall, he slowed to a very safe speed.

          • Noce

            In some ways I agree with you. There seemed to be two Pagans. The one that was the ignition for the 2012 team. The one who had the inside the park HR as a walk off only to hurt his hamy in the process. I think injuries and age diminished his performance here. But there was another Pagan who showed up, made mental mistakes in the outfield, seemed disinterested in playing from time to time. I’m not sure all this other Pagan’s lack of interest could be blamed on injury. In the end I liked Pagan but he became a liability in the outfield and his offense did not make up for it.

      • Keep’n It Real

        I’m of the belief that Pagan’s number of injuries, age, and his “not answering the bell” in the playoffs is a major reason he’s not signed by anyone. Let’s also not forget that he’s not the greatest defensively. GMs call other GMs and his “not answering the bell” wasn’t the only negative perception he generated these past couple seasons. Let us not forget what was written about his decision not to participate in the Willie Mac Award Ceremony, when Matt Duffy won as a rookie (and the comment “wasn’t lost on management”).

        Kaepernick made his bed. People can make excuses for him, but QB is the focus of any team and Team Owners are also Business Owners…who can decide who they want to hire or not. Some of the teams that people feel should sign him are losing teams…and most losing teams are (and should) take the rout of the draft to build up their teams. Even taking the kneeling decision out of the equation, more times than not he has shown the inability to be accurate and read defenses. You can also add in there that he has a history of outwardly showing that he “knows all” about the QB position and has been unwilling to accept help from QBs that have done it…like Joe and Steve.

        • The Oracle

          The bottom line for both Pagan and Kaepernick is that neither has enough ability to outweigh their off-the-field negatives.

    • channelclemente

      Yes

  • Foothills A-rye-o
    • Foothills A-rye-o

      ’cause in the end, we’re all in this thing together.

  • The Oracle

    Gordon Beckham signed a minor league deal with the Mariners. I wonder which party passed on the idea of him doing the same with the Giants? Or maybe both?

  • channelclemente

    It took me 10 minutes to stop laughing.

    https://streamable.com/yaakj

  • Mr. Sarcastic

    Disqus is going wonky on me… Skipping over all posts from today and going straight to some post that is “awaiting moderation”

    • channelclemente

      It did it off and on yesterday too. Ryan is to racey, it seems. If you reload the site it seems to go away.

    • Same here – Kept saying “your connection is not private” – “Security alert” – “Click on Advanced”

      • Bapah

        Now you know what happens to “Foreigners” when you try to butt in on America.

        • channelclemente

          Ryan could just delete the post that’s causing this glich.

          • Bapah

            Ry’s of Russky decent.

          • channelclemente

            If he doesn’t, he’ll be a citizen of the United State of Doofus.

        • Well, I guess so. There happens to be a guy in tattered clothes sitting on our couch. Introduced himself as Mr Nitup, but he sure looks like Putin.

  • channelclemente

    If this doesn’t stop cities from public funding of stadiums, then nothing will.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/03/31/relocation-oakland-raiders-san-diego-chargers-st-louis-rams/99848210/

  • channelclemente
    • Bapah

      In listening to his interview with Pavs before the start of ST, I think he knew the outcome even before AZ.

  • Mr. Sarcastic

    Top 3 oldest ballparks in the NL:
    1) Wrigley Field
    2) Dodger Stadium
    3) Coors Field (!!???!)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rockies-will-stay-in-coors-field-for-30-more-years-but-should-they-141733277.html

    • Kramerica

      Pretty crazy, the spate of stadium building has rendered an expansion franchise’s ballpark the third oldest in its league. I’ve heard Coors is really nice, and it looks that way on TV, it’s one place I’d really like to go see the Giants play.

      • DrLefty

        It’s beautiful. We went for a series there in 2012 with the Giants and liked it a lot.

    • Keep’n It Real

      I still have a panoramic poster from the Opening Day of Coors Field. I had no idea it became “vintage” 🙂

  • Bapah

    Why is Comrade Ryanski’s moderated comment right up top of this post? It all seems like a giant conspiracy to me.

    • Bapah

      Notice giant, is not capitalized.

      • Mr. Sarcastic

        We’re stuck in an endless time loop. Flatlands Ryan unleashed a Disqus virus on this thread that only Greek Giant can cure by starting a new one …

    • channelclemente

      It thinks he’s a perv, and insist on bringing it to our notice.

  • channelclemente
    • 610nm

      Impressive. Dig, baby, dig.

  • paul in p.v.

    Brisbee, on the LF platoon:

    http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2017/3/31/15141028/jarrett-parker-sf-giants-platoon

    “But I guarantee you that I’d rather watch Marrero against Rich Hill than Parker. Parker might have a fine season, but the Giants will have to keep him far, far away from left-handers at every opportunity if they want him to succeed. They knew that. You knew that. It’s nice to hear Bruce Bochy confirm that.”

  • DrLefty

    For those who’ve said Steph Curry is mentally soft or otherwise not a good leader, this article provides an excellent counterargument. It would be hard to overstate his effect on this franchise over the years. People have all different styles. I’ll take Steph’s style over Harden’s self-promotion and Westbrook’s disrespect for others.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19039446/nba-warriors-fun-culture-relies-curry

    • RobDeer

      Curry and Posey are very similiar. And we’re so goddamn lucky to have them.

      • DrLefty

        And they both turned their teams around from years of obscurity. Very special leaders, and I think Buster is a “team culture” leader just like the article points out Curry is.

        • RobDeer

          They both embody exactly what you want from your leader. Quiet confidence, deflecting praise, but a competitiveness that is readily apparent. And while they may shy away from ever saying anything that will cause controversy, if there’s a controversial topic that needs to be addressed, they’ll both step up and do so. Literally, every time they get interviewed I end up thinking, “That’s EXACTLY what should’ve been said.” How friggin’ rare is that?

          • Matthew

            Either for President

  • Bapah

    House Votes to Limit EPA Decision Making
    ” EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt, overruled his agency’s own recommendations on insecticides known as chlorpyrifos, rejecting a petition to ban use of these compounds…”
    “The petition, filed by environmental groups some 10 years ago, was supported by the conclusion of EPA chemical safety experts, who late last year recommended a complete ban on chlorpyrifos because of the human health risks associated with the compounds, including brain damage and cognitive decline.”

    • Bapah

      And so it begins.

      • paul in p.v.

        THIS was included in the (initial) EPA press release:

        “Today’s executive order calls into question America’s credibility and our commitment to tackling the greatest environmental challenge of our lifetime,” it read. “With the world watching, President Trump and Administrator Pruitt have chosen to shirk our responsibility, disregard clear science and undo the significant progress our country has made to ensure we leave a better, more sustainable planet for generations to come.”

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/31/epa-tries-to-praise-trumps-climate-order-ends-up-slamming-him-instead/?tid=ss_fb-bottom&utm_term=.8985c7b44f5c

        Eejits.

        • The Oracle

          I have no idea about the merits of this particular act, but the press release was obviously sabotaged by an anti-Trump bureaucrat, which isn’t unusual these days. While those who oppose Trump may love it, he was elected President. In the long run, the subversion of the governmental process, whether by those within the administration, or outsiders like sanctuary city mayors and rogue judges, isn’t a good thing. Trump is temporary. The damage done may not be as temporary.

          It’s important to remember that federal supremacy has often times been for the undeliable good. Desgregation of schools would never have happened without it. While this subversion of Trump’s power is currently working in the favor of the political views of many here, what if the opposite was someday the case? For example, what if some states or cities decided that they were no longer going to recognize abortion rights? What if those states were aided in their quest by individual judges who chose not to follow the law? What seems like a good thing in the short term may not always be so.

          • RobDeer

            Was it “sabotaged by an anti-Trump bureaucrat” or just truthfully spoken by a pro-environment human?

          • Matthew

            Who knows? He’s nuts and the ideological government left behind is nuts and freaked out. There is certainly a ton of sabatoge going on.

            Listen to Farkas and her clumsy backtracks. That place is a cesspool…and we all tend to trust messaging that fits our beliefs

          • RobDeer

            Ok, but I just feel a lot of what’s going on transcends politics. The state of our planet, for one. Dismissing climate change is something that i just can’t fathom. It’s not like scoffing at Santa Claus. Planned Parenthood is another. It’s more aggravating to me, I’m sure, since without PP my girlfriend wouldn’t have been diagnosed for her breast cancer and also led to her treatment. The lack of leadership for the common good is something I simply can’t forgive.

          • RobDeer

            Had to edit great for breast. Worst spellcheck ever.

          • Matthew

            You’re a beast

          • RobDeer

            Yes, but a slappy one.

            Truthfully,

            Johnnie LeMaster

          • Matthew

            Oh, I agree…but these so called decisions are NOT as black and white as a colluded media writes the stories…AND there are reasons not to trust 100% what comes out of ANY government agency. They are bloated, overfunded, and even those for the common good are out of touch money grabbers. It’s a mess.

          • RobDeer

            Trust me, my disdain is for the entire political system.

          • Matthew

            Yup. Me too. And people are sick of my media rants. Media is dead.

          • Bapah

            I’d rather be safe than sorry over poisoning the populace .

          • Keep’n It Real
          • Foothills A-rye-o

            What a load of interesting statements strung together by someone who feels strongly about people speaking out against the Trump administration.

          • The Oracle

            I have no problem with people speaking out. I just have a problem with the level of hysteria and the idea that world is coming to an end.

          • Bapah
          • Bapah
          • Matthew

            But, Bapah…how can we trust “articles”? Whether from a science journal or a paper? They ALL have skin in the game

          • Bapah

            Read all sides and make up your own mind. That’s what we’ve had to do throughout history.

          • Matthew

            Exactly…but why do you honestly think Trump won? My opinion is because people are sick of the huge slant on one side…the “all sides” is dead. And it’s way too much work to get there if it does exist

          • Bapah

            Why? A lot had to do with the “Christian Right” and structure of the Electoral College.
            Then again, I also retain a quote I first heard in high school civics class, “The Masses are Asses”, in a discussion of Plebiscite.

          • Matthew

            The masses are sick of condescending elites from urban areas. They think the city folk are asses. This country and its good intentions have been hijacked by know-it-all’ stealing from the people. Trump is nuts. Hillary was, too. For every “Sessions is dangerous” there is a “Pelosi is a clueless elite nutjob”

            Did you think they were asses when Obama won? Of course not. They weren’t. This is less real why?

            People are generally sick of being condescended to by Lauer, Pelley, Kristof, I could go on forever. This is a mess of our doing.

          • Bapah

            I’m just trying to be as detached as possible unless there seems to be some factual evidence of smart or dumb, real or made-up, true or false, etc.

            In my comment above, I’m just trying to note when de-construction is occurring and how it will affect me and everybody else.

          • Matthew

            Perfectly put…and your immersion in that world allows you a better perch to witness from.

          • I hate to see another man harmed physically but DT will most likely be assassinated or impeached……….within three yrs.

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4358014/Donald-Trump-s-quotes-turned-emo-song.html

          • Bapah

            Easy for you Canadians to say. [CCC Corps of Condescending Canadians.]

          • Kind of like UCLA in Canada?

          • Bapah

            If they’re in a reputable scientific pub. it will say if it’s opinion when it is. A scientific article conveys facts when they’re present and will document them. If one doesn’t trust legitimate science, then I hold no hope for them.

          • Matthew

            And yet …. some of those are funded by…..government grants. Which means thay are forced to play a game for funds.

          • Bapah

            Good science is good science. I choose to believe documented legitimate science, if not there’s no hope for our continued survival.

            Ignorance is the most serious enemy of an advanced culture.

            Many of these folks seem to worship it.

          • Matthew

            I get it. But, a reasonable question people with some intelligent ask is why so many predictions from science on matters of climate prediction have not come close to happening? It’s clear that we need science and research. But we are so far from understanding this amazing environment….we can’t even predict if it’s going to rain tomorrow

          • Bapah

            I think if you’ll look at legitimate studies for results of that study, they’ll be correct. If you look at predictions, they’ll be opinions backed by certain evidence. Accept no ones conclusions without giving it some thought, yourself. If one doesn’t understand it, Say it. Don’t say it’s wrong.

            You have to be able to discern facts from opinions.

          • channelclemente

            Rather than argue incessantly, I’d just welcome you to a stochastic world/reality. Some answers, at least if you believe in science.

            http://grist.org/series/skeptics/

          • Matthew

            I believe in science. I’m doing a horrible job of explaining why I’m cynical about some of what I hear.

          • channelclemente

            Agreed, LOL. Rather than be cynical, be informed. All these guys who do climate science started out as skeptics for the most part. It was a tough nut to swallow that humans can actually effect the climate for all of them, for the most part, in the beginning. The first serious hypothesis was in the 1960-70s.

          • Matthew

            I believe in climate change, by the way. I’ll just sit in the corner and let everyone else argue the cause.

            Consider me a true dinosaur

          • Matthew

            I tend to learn other perspectives through respectful “arguing”, even incessantly so

          • Bapah

            Actually, global warming is occurring. The significant question is whether it’s cyclic or not.

          • Bapah

            BTW, I personally reviewed scientific proposals for government funding. It is the primary way we gain scientific knowledge and factual information in this country (and thank God for it). I can tell you, I (nor any of my colleagues) would allow funding of anything not thoroughly grounded in previous scientific fact. I’m sure some bad science came out of some of these, but it wasn’t the Gov funding source that did it, in most cases it was private companies and other institutions with an prior agenda.

          • Bapah

            That statement is wrong. It’s an opinion not supported by fact.

          • Matthew

            That may be true.

            See below for more skepticism.

            I’m so not educated in matters of science and medicine. I see research go horribly wrong in medicine and pharma. I see climate predictions go wrong. I know so much is right, obviously. But we/they still don’t seem as strictly right so often that 100% buy in trust is warranted…sorry…cynicism has been earned in so many areas

          • Bapah

            If we can’t trust the Scientific Method, then it’s back to the dark ages.

            Look it up. Most people have no idea what it is. Most people DO have an opinion about it, though.

          • Bapah
          • RobDeer

            Next you’re gonna claim the Earth isn’t flat.

          • Matthew

            Bapah Irving

          • channelclemente
          • Matthew

            Sounds too much like Alton Brown for my taste.

          • channelclemente

            Well that’s interesting???

          • Matthew

            BTW, the NYT crossword puzzle comment was the BEST

          • channelclemente

            It actually resembles rabbit poop.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzDGvyiJ0rc

          • RobDeer

            Last time I opened one of these Bapah had me watching a turd being polished for three and a half minutes.

          • channelclemente

            You’ll feel better after watching.

          • RobDeer

            I’d polish the hell outta that orb.

          • channelclemente

            Yeah, but that’s your obsessiveness out of control. You’re a model terraformer at heart.

          • RobDeer

            Gimme a minute while I google terraformer.

          • Your best buddy Marcus Thompson’s soon-to-be-released book on Steph. Perhaps you can get a signed copy. The camera caught you right behind Ayesha trying to “help out”

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/71b27c0e683d51238496239f6316fc0fe5c1f090c7ae9c6e4a0d42924f9b99d8.jpg

          • channelclemente

            Oh please. Pick apt analogies.

          • Michael Scott

            Everybody is out for Donald- the courts, the press, the Dems, the CIA, the FBI, Obama, the Freedom Caucus, anyone with a brain…But he has you.

          • The Oracle

            I’m not a Trump supporter, although I agree with some of what he’s trying to do. I’m a rule of law supporter.

          • Michael Scott

            “I’m a rule of law supporter.” Unfortunately, Trump isn’t.

          • paul in p.v.

            Blah blah blah.

          • The Oracle

            Very well reasoned.

    • Foothills A-rye-o

      what are your thoughts on paraquat? sold as Gramoxone in the US.

      • Bapah

        Ry, I’ve been out of it so long, I don’t know about a lot of these things. It’s also out of my realm of competent knowledge. I’m sure the symptomology would be understandable, I just don’t know it.

    • 610nm

      An organophosphate, from a family of compounds which are often insecticides, but can be good stuff like nerve agents. As a general rule of thumb, this chemist doesn’t want to be around anything from that family, although their biological activities are not necessarily instant death.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorpyrifos
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/19ea5ca779db394b62948f840d4643d9348731507a23b6a1e15da0cc9461476d.png

    • channelclemente

      It also damages bees ability to navigate and forage.

  • With Gregor wearing #7 from 2012-2016 and Jimmy Rollins during ST – there maybe some movement by another player who may saddle up to Murph and inquire. Pitchers all love double numbers so it won’t be a pitcher. 49 looks good on Marrero but I always see/think Javy Lopez. Maybe Chris goes for #7. Gorky’s seems sold on 66 but would wear #7 well. Maybe Aaron Hill or Jae-gyun Hwang.

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/team/roster/_/name/sf/san-francisco-giants

    • RobDeer

      I vote for Hwang.

      • Maybe when he “returns” from Sac-Town

        • RobDeer

          Like a Korean Jedi.

  • Matthew

    Let’s talk baseball!

    • RobDeer

      Ok! Once again last night, I couldn’t help but feel that Cueto was born to be a Giant. I know a lot of people feel that if he has another stellar year he’s gonna opt out but I can really see him deciding this is the place he needs to be. I’m sure I’ll be called a “fanboy” but is he really gonna decide $120 million isn’t enough? I think his father could also be a wild card. Given his health, if he likes it in SF that could definitely be a factor in where he decides to spend the next few years.

      • Matthew

        I am totally with you, Fanblade. I’m curious why everyone is assuming an opt out. We watched him last night and kept commenting about how much he loves playing baseball and seems to love this environment.

        • Sgbssfg

          Think a championship would go a long way toward convincing him to stay.

          • Efrain

            he won one with the Royals and didn’t stay, so that logic is weak

        • Efrain

          You must believe in unicorns as well.

          • Peter Johnson

            He does, that is what years of pot smoking does to people, would rather live in a fantasy world, realty is to hard to deal with .

          • Bapah

            Deal is all realty people do.

      • The Oracle

        After this season, Cueto has 4 years and $84 million left on his deal. The Giants hold the option for the fifth year, when they would have the choice of paying him $22 million to play or giving him a $5 million buyout. If Cueto has a good year and finishes the season healthy, I think it’s pretty good bet that he could get much more than the $84 million guarantee in free agency. He’s not going to leave millions on the table. So under those circumstances, the Giants would probably have to once again sign him as a free agent. If he really loves the team that much, maybe they could toss another guaranteed year or two on to the end of the deal before the season ends, but I doubt that’s going to happen.

        • Efrain

          don’t agree with you much but on this you are right on the money.

      • Efrain

        ” born to be a Giant” – you are a fool

        Cueto has been successful wherever he has pitched. I wold love for him to stay but neither should he leave money on the table for some stupid “love for Giants” bullshit. He has a lot of people to take care of and gives to charity in the DR.

        Plus the fact the Yankees have a great deal of money on the table next off season. They have liked Cueto for quite some time. They will make it interesting, specially if they don’t make it into the playoffs this season.

        Born to be a Giant – lol

        • Bapah

          One more POSt.

  • channelclemente
  • channelclemente
  • RobDeer

    Same lineup as last night only Parker in LF and Smarge on the hill.

    • Matthew

      Let’s get our voodoo pins ready!!!!

      • I have my Sherri Papini dammit doll ready (“I was beat up by two mexican women”)

  • Michael Scott

    MLB Trade Rumors has the projected roster and some interesting tidbits. Maybe you’ve already seen this. Of note- no KT, no Blach. Again, just their guess.
    http://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-san-francisco-giants/

    • Peter Johnson

      Nunez healthy, KT goes to Sacramento , Blach either the long man are in Sacramento starting on Cain’s day just in case, and Suarez becomes the long man in the bullpen .

  • RobDeer

    Is Bochy gonna wait til first pitch before announcing the fifth starter? Maybe have a plane fly over the stadium providing the news?

    • Michael Scott

      Last night seemed to tip his hand.

      • RobDeer

        Agreed, which is why the delay makes no sense. I say this completely aware I could send Lefty into full tirade mode.

        • Michael Scott

          After the roster is set, I just try to move on and root for the guys who did make it. I do get into full tirade mode myself, but I go out to the shed and let loose.

    • The Oracle

      Everyone already knows.

  • The Oracle

    The tweets are In: Cain is the 5th starter, Blach is on the team, and Bochy strongly hints that Marrero will be as well.

    • Michael Scott

      Links?

      • The Oracle

        You need to get on the Twitter machine and follow the writers.

        • Michael Scott

          You have a problem with my request?

          • The Oracle

            That’s right, pal. I have a big problem with it.

    • Lunch_Box

      Marrero is getting #49? Damn…too soon giving up Javier’s number away. Doesn’t sting as much as still having #22 floating around.

  • Repost @AmyGGiants

    SPAN CF
    BELT 1B
    PENCE RF
    POSEY C
    CRAWFORD SS
    PARKER LF
    NUNEZ 3B
    PANIK 2B
    SAMARDZIJA P

  • earlytimes

    Evans: Cain’s strong final spring start ‘does give him an edge’ over Blach. Cute.

    • Peter Johnson

      Cain was named the 5th starter, but 1 average start impresses Evans ,what about the other 5, and the last 3 years, I trust Blach way more, but money wins again .

      • earlytimes

        I’m just relaying not endorsing.

        • Peter Johnson

          I see, that’s why I changed it to Evans .

      • totalfan62

        Sad but true.

        • giantc

          Do they not understand that the money is already spent so it makes no sense to chase it — idiotic decision. The games in April count.

    • Such bull manure. Blach is so high energy and quick paced. Keeps the infield on their toes and inspires confidence. No WTF attitudes behind him.

      • Michael Scott

        It didn’t help that Ty didn’t have a good spring.

    • The Oracle

      It’s understandable. Four earned runs in 5 1/3 is incredibly impressive.

    • Lunch_Box

      SMH. Poor Blach. Regardless of Cain’s performance in ST, it seemed like Bobby E. was going to spin it someway to justify having him take up the 5th spot in the rotation. The bullpen better start stretching and get some warmup throws in during Cain’s days to start.

    • giantc

      He didn’t really say that did he?

  • just peachy.

    I’ll be reporting live from AT&T in a couple hours. But first, happy hour!

    • Both hands?

    • Bapah

      Have 2 for me. Maybe one for Matt. etc.

      • just peachy.

        I’m only up to 4 so far

        • Bapah

          Hab anudder

  • http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/1/4/8/221724148/03.31.17_vs._OAK_5ll7xh68.pdf

    40-man players who are out of options:
    RHP Cory Gearrin
    IF Conor Gillaspie
    OF Gorkys Hernández
    RHP George Kontos
    OF Jarrett Parker
    RHP Hunter Strickland

  • just peachy.
    • Whoo Hoo Play Ball Luncheon was packed and buzzing over the news.

    • CaptBrewster

      Great!! Thanks for the link.

  • South City Jim

    Cain gets the nod.

    • Lunch_Box

      FSMH

  • Bapah

    Velly interesting.
    The entire coal industry employs fewer people than Arby’s

  • channelclemente

    A day without data is a sorry day indeed.

    https://i.imgur.com/comr5CM.png

  • Efrain

    Westbrook is really having a season for the ages. Love him or hate him but when he has a triple double the Thunder, who are no where near the team that played the Dubs tough last season, are over 80% winning percentage. As I’ve said no player does more with less in the league, including Harden.

    However the talk is about a CO-MVP in the NBA this season. For two guys that grew up competing against each other and where teammates, it would be an appropriate nod for the two of them.

    • totalfan62

      I agree 100%. I can see why people say negative stuff about Westbrook, but watch him play on a consistent basis and you gotta tip your cap, no matter what.

      As a Thunder fan, I’ve watched him carry this team through the year and he has to be right there for MVP.

      Not too often you and I see it the same Efrain, but absolutely we do here.

      • Efrain

        thanks! The most telling part to me, in this era of player needing days off to rest, is that no one in the NBA plays at a more violent pace than Westbrook, NO ONE. The fact that he plays every day and plays hard through small injuries and pains, tells you he has earned whatever accolades he receives.

        Not even Harden play as hard as he does. Still, both are having amazing seasons.

        • giantc

          Harden doesn’t even play close to hard as Westbrook — Harden takes a lot of plays off on defense. Westbrook gets lost on defense sometimes but it seems is always giving effort.

    • DrLefty

      Yep, Mr. MVP led his team to choke away a big lead at home vs a team on the back end of a tough B2B. But Mr. Me-First got his triple-double, and that’s all that matters.

      • Efrain

        but the teams winning percentage when he has a triple double is over 80% and far worse when he doesn’t, therefore that rationale doesn’t always work. Of his teammates miss open shots, what more is he to do?

      • totalfan62

        Did you watch the game? That is so NOT what happened. We lost that lead because Adams and Roberson had foul trouble, and Gibson did not play. The TEAM coughed up that lead, not one player.

        Your prejudice vs. Westbrook is unbecoming and beneath you, and I’m sick of it. Let it go.

  • Kramerica

    So Cain has been named the 5th starter and Hwang isn’t going to be on the roster. Very disappointed with both of those decisions.

    • DrLefty

      No Kelby, either. I’m already so disheartened about this season, and it hasn’t even started. The Giants are not even pretending to try to put the best team on the field. Not sure what’s motivating them, but it certainly isn’t winning.

      • Efrain

        the Giants are about money as much as any team there is in MLB. Actually not much different in the end from the Yankees, who I consider the evil empire.

        The Sabean Yankee roots run deep.

        • DrLefty

          This Cain thing is all about Evans and Bochy not wanting to tell their investors that they’ve wasted another $20 million. What other reason could there be? It’s not about merit or what’s best for the team, that’s for sure.

          • Surf Maui

            Let’s all wait and see. I for one, really do believe that Sabean, Evans, and Bochey know more about these roster decisions than we on this site do, hard as that might seem to believe.

          • The Oracle

            Did Bochy know more about who should pitch to Jake Lamb? Did the front office have a better idea about whether signing Dan Uggla was a good move?

          • Surf Maui

            Results in the 20-20 retrospectoscope do not mean less knowledge or poor decisions. Do you really think that any of us ( including my superior baseball knowledge and logical thinking skills) know more baseball than those three? Please. Not to say that I always agree, or that they are always right, but they will be right more often the any of us.

          • The Oracle

            They obviously know more about baseball, but that hasn’t stopped them from making some poor decisions. The overwhelming majority here knew that the Uggla and Casilla/Lamb decisions bad moves, and said so without having to wait for hindsight. I believe the Cain decision will fall into the same category. The common theme in their bad decisions is too often thinking that a player who clearly doesn’t have it anymore still has something left.

          • DrLefty

            Sabean sure was an expert about the readiness of Panik and Duvall–both All-Stars less than two years after he said they weren’t ready to be in the big leagues. Except they were.

          • Surf Maui

            And he brought up Panik and Duffy

          • DrLefty

            They were both in the big leagues (in July 2014) when he said that. He shot off his mouth and publicly undermined his own players when they were ON THE ROSTER.

          • DrLefty

            I don’t need to “wait and see” about Cain. I know exactly how this is going to turn out, and so do all of you. The only questions are: how many starts he gets, how many games he costs the Giants, whether his losses cost the Giants a playoff spot, and who ultimately replaces him–Blach or Beede.

          • Surf Maui

            We shall see

      • The Oracle

        The way teams can control their minor leaguers through the use of so many “options” is never going to change, because the MLBPA’s members have no reason to try to loosen the restrictions and thereby make it easier for someone else to take their job.

        • DrLefty

          Someone said to Alex on Twitter that “maybe it’s better for Kelby to get at bats everyday in AAA.” Alex replied “Not at this stage of his career.”

          The way they’ve treated him the last couple years is just awful. All he’s ever done is come up and be productive and valuable. And they jerk him around so the likes of Aaron Hill and Ramiro Pena and Grant Green can take up space.

          • giantc

            Hill was really good in 2012.

          • paul in p.v.

            … and that was only 5 years ago…

            Hey – so was Matt Cain!

          • Bapah

            Right now, I’d rather be KT than Duffman.

  • just peachy.
    • 610nm

      Good job telling B. Crawford to homer!

      • just peachy.

        He always listens to me, of course

    • John Victory Faust

      Well, ain’t that a Peach! Have a blast Peachy

      • just peachy.

        I’m in section 103 row 5

        • paul in p.v.

          Why do you put watermelon in your brewskie?