Spring Training Game 1 Vs Cincinnati Reds Game Thread

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Greek Giant

By golly folks, Spring Training and baseball are really here in earnest! The first exhibition game is slated today at 12:05 Willie Mays Field Time. This is the game thread. Lots to discuss, from the Giants paying off their mortgage in full at Willie Mays Field to the “problems” with baseball and the commissioner’s strange approach to addressing them….

The Lineup

  1. Brandon Crawford – SS
  2. Joe Panik – 2B
  3. Brandon Belt – 1B
  4. Hunter Pence – RF
  5. Michael Morse – DH
  6. Jarrett Parker – LF
  7. Conor Gillaspie – 3B
  8. Nick Hundley – C
  9. Gorkys Hernandez – CF

Wait! Where’s Buster? My guess he is getting some time off with maybe an at bat later in the game.

Madison Bumgarner will start and pitch a grand total of one inning. Clayton Blackburn, Steven Okert, Derek Law, and Cory Gearrin are the other pitchers announced to appear in the game.

  • 610nm

    Breckeroni says “play ball!”, for the first time in 2017.
    So Breckeroni is in an extremely good mood today.

  • Curt Flood

    Blue skies today, but what a winter of water and discontent?!? Baseball is on the way…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCPMD04MEZE

    • steve k

      that’s my guy..the big man was as smooth as they come…

      • Curt Flood

        One of the Kings that must have sojourned to bear gifts to the black baby Jesus once upon a time – or so I’ve been told.

        Here’s another:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtpCAhbAJdc

        • steve k

          my guy as well. died way too young. freddie was clapton’s favorite..

      • Lunch_Box

        Haak is going to go ballistic when you use “My Guy” to apply to a non-baseball player!

        • steve k

          i thought about that, but the haakman has a good heart. he will be ok with my transgression..

    • Matthew

      What did you do with Rachel?

      • Curt Flood
        • Matthew

          Uhhh, I know. I’m just worried about Rachel.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

          • Bapah

            I feel extremely unobservant and remiss that I hadn’t noticed the old photo of Footy you were using as a tribute to his self-imposed (we think) exile.

            It’s a remarkable likeness and I’m stunned I hadn’t seen it until now. I’m thinking he was just a little unstable and this vacation will do him good in the long run.

          • The Oracle

            Exile? He’s here pretty much every day.

          • Bapah

            You must be mistaken. There is no such person here.

          • The Oracle

            His next name should be Sybil.

          • Bapah

            There are many talentless hacks and fools about and Foothills Ryan is a peerless standout amongst them.

          • The Oracle

            He’s just eccentric.

          • Bapah

            Indeed.

          • Matthew

            Exile On Main Street

          • Curt Flood

            “Carson’s passionate concern in Silent Spring is with the future
            of the planet and all life on Earth. She calls for humans to act
            responsibly, carefully, and as stewards of the living earth.”

            http://www.rachelcarson.org/SilentSpring.aspx

          • dgg

            Hi Ryan.

        • Goldstein-Burriss 1984

  • Matthew

    Who do you have in the First Lineup Criticism Post Pool, GG?

    • Lunch_Box

      Should there be an asterisk next to the line-up because it doesn’t count?

    • Myself of course!

    • This line up sucks! What is Bochy thinking!

      • Mr. Sarcastic

        I can’t believe Bochy is pulling Bumgarner after only 1 inning!! He’s over managing!!

  • Curt Flood
  • Bapah

    What’s game time?

    • 12:05 Willie Mays Field Time. See post.

      • Bapah

        Thanks. It isn’t always the first thing I do. I very much appreciate you putting the road sign to new posts back in.

        • I’m crushed you don’t read my posts the instant they are posted Bapah! Just crushed!

          • Bapah

            Most need to be savored, so I wait until my mind is more settled.

          • Appalled7

            That could be a long wait, yeah? 🙂

          • Bapah

            I’m sorry, Miss, are you new here? Certain liberties will not be tolerated any longer. I’m afraid we may have to have a little talk after the game.

  • Appalled7

    OMG! Is it noon yet! Games are back!

    Howdy, y’all!

    • HaakAway

      Just for you App7 … Just need to think of Seven spots to fill by Saturday night.

      My25ManGuys™ 2017

      Pick who will be on the 25-Man roster at season’s open.

      Here are the obvious “Core 18”:

      Starters: Posey, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Nunez, Pence, Span
      Bench: Hundley, Conor

      Starting Pitchers: Bum, Cueto, Moore, Samardzija
      Bullpen: Melancon, Kontos, Smith, Law, Strickland

      Post the seven others you think will make it here in response to any HaakAway post.
To save time do not list all 25 unless you think one of these 18 will not make the 25-Man.

      ”25/25 Deadline” … By request here from some: You get two shots…
      February 25 is the deadline for your first picks … Spring Training is wide open then.
      March 25 is the deadline for your final picks … Spring Training is about to end then.

      *Questions? Write me at: My SF Giant Guy at g Mel d Ott com

      • Appalled7

        Excellent! Thanks for looking out for me! I’ll get this to you by Saturday.

        We going to make it to some games this year?

        • HaakAway

          Sure … Should be some interesting prospects in SJ: Reynolds? Brusa? MyGuy™ Kelvin Beltre. Maybe even a rehabbing Big Giant like Pence, Cueto or Will Smith?

          • Appalled7

            Wouldn’t that be fun? See some rehabbing MyGuys playing with the up-and-comers?

      • PerSpeier35

        I’ll go with:

        Cain
        Parker
        Ruggiano
        Hernandez
        Rollins
        Okert
        Gearrin

        • HaakAway

          Thnx

  • pacman68

    Finally!!! It’s baseball. Looking forward to talking baseball with you all again this summer.

  • Appalled7

    Must be baseball season – Kruk says our old friend Michael Morris is back…

    • PerSpeier35

      I thought it was Kuiper who calls him “Morris.” Krukow too?

      • Appalled7

        No, you are right, it’s Kuiper.

    • paul in p.v.

      “That was not a hanger, A7.” ;o)

      • Appalled7

        Glug. 🙂

    • Duane – Still convinced his last name is two syllables

      • Appalled7

        Yes. Kruk is such a goofball I tend to reflexively blame all the silliness on him, but this one is Kuip. I say that with all due affection and respect, by the way.

  • crawnik

    Very small sample size, but Affeldt sounds pretty good on the radio with his humor and pitching insights. Can’t wait to hear what Lopez brings to the radio and TV side.

  • PerSpeier35

    Wow, Vegas is packed, wall to wall folks here. Was just wandering around a casino and a guy was playing blackjack by himself and had a spat with the young lady dealer. I’d guess he’s from Somalia, really heavy accent, sounded exactly like the pirate from the Charlie Phillips movie. Anyway, he thought she counted wrong and took his $50 by mistake. She tried to calm him, then the pit boss followed, but he got more and more heated. He called her a bitch so the PB called security. Two guys came but the guy wouldn’t budge, going on and on about his $50. Finally a third guy comes, some dude right out of Goodfellas and that guy looked up and that was it, somehow he knew, he got up and they showed him the door. I guess those guys just have the look that communicates to anyone that you’d better not mess with them.

    • crawnik

      Which cssino was it, just out of curiosity?

      • PerSpeier35

        A small one, The Westin just down the side street from Bally’s. I stayed at PH but my rental car for a separate side trip is at The Westin.

  • The Oracle

    33 Spring Training games? Way too many.

    • PerSpeier35

      Easy bucks for MLB, right?

    • World Baseball Classic driven….

      • The Oracle

        They also played 33 last year.

        • Preparing for this years WBC …. they needed a model….

    • channelclemente

      No, it’s really not.

      • The Oracle

        Is too.

    • Efrain

      Well we agree on that.

  • Current Best new Name in Baseball – Rookie Davis

    http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/9/6/2/216929962/02.24.17_vs._CIN_afwo3bvl.pdf

    WELCOME BACK: The Giants will open their 70th Spring Training in Arizona today…it will mark the Club’s 35th-consecutive spring here in Scottsdale, Arizona and the 66th-consecutive spring camp in the desert.
    THE GIANTS – 2016 REGULAR SEASON: Finished the 2016 regular season (59th in San Francisco and 134th overall) with an 87-75 (.537) record…SF finished in second place in the National League West and qualified for the Postseason as the second Wild-Card…SF defeated the New York Mets 3-0 in the NL Wild Card game, but were defeated 3-games-to-1 to the eventual World Series Champion Chicago
    Cubs in the NLDS.
    BIG OFF SEASON MOVES: The Giants added RHP Mark Melancon (four-year contract) and C Nick Hundley (one-year contract) to their roster…SF also brought in 2009 All-Star Aaron Hill, 2007 NL MVP Jimmy Rollins and former Giant’ slugger Michael Morse as non-roster invitees.
    COACHING STAFF CHANGES: The Giants made two changes to their coaching staff, hiring José Alguacil as their first-base coach and Phil Nevin as their third basecoach…Alguacil spent the 2016 season as the Giants’ triple-A Manager in Sacramento and Nevin was the Manager for the Reno Aces (Diamondbacks
    triple-A club).
    GIANTS PRESS BOX: To support Major League Baseball’s Green Initiative, the San Francisco Giants offer giantspressbox.com, a media-only website that helps streamline and expedite distribution of information to outlets covering the team in a more environmentally friendly manner…In addition to serving as a central
    location for all media documents, with content including media guide, game notes, stat packs, media clips, lineups, audio and video, this site is updated every day throughout spring training and the regular season and remains archived…To access the site please go to mlbpressbox.com and sign up for a username and
    password.

    • crawnik

      That is good to know (mlbpressbox). Thanks.

  • Refresh your browsers for lineup and pitching assignments in the above post.

  • Matthew

    The sound of Jon Miller makes my heart feel all warm and fuzzy.

    • Bapah

      Good call. I wasn’t aware that I’d been smiling for the last hour or so.

    • Bapah

      Another thing… Jeremy is pretty good at explaining how pitchers are thinking about hitters and getting them out. I hope they don’t try to dumb him down.

      • He is very rare in that his technical expressions will not fly over the top of some because he’s already factored that in.

    • crawnik

      You and me both Matthew. Good afternoon to you too, sir.

    • BALDHEADSLIKK

      Thank you Radnich!

  • 40-man players who are out of options:
    RHP Cory Gearrin
    IF Conor Gillaspie
    OF Gorkys Hernández
    RHP George Kontos
    RHP Mark Melancon
    RHP Jeff Samardzija
    RHP Hunter Strickland

    PLAYERS PARTICIPATING IN WBC
    C Buster Posey – USA
    IF Brandon Crawford – USA
    RHP Johnny Cueto – Dominican Republic

    ROSTER BREAKDOWN
    70 players in camp (30 non-roster):
    36 pitchers (12 non-roster)
    6 catchers (3 non-roster)
    18 infielders (10 non-roster)
    10 outfielders (5 non-roster

    • crawnik

      I do believe Parker is out of options as well.

  • GG says: “Where’s Buster? Baggarly once wrote: “Buster Posey takes an oddly timed day off…..”

  • Appalled7

    Alguacil and Nevin could prove to be two of the most important acquisitions this season.

    • Bapah

      Nevin definitely has history with Boch and is likely the first person since Flan that Bochy truly trusts.

      • Appalled7

        Yep. Let’s hope the players feel the same way!

      • Plus if there EVER is a pushing and shoving fight – Nevin provides some Soprano muscle.

        • Bapah

          A tough mofo, indeed.

      • HaakAway

        You over in AZ for this game?

        • Bapah

          Nope. Sick at home.

          Had to meet my new espresso machine.

          • HaakAway

            Just hope you do not have to bow to the Porcelain god.

            Now I recall you were enjoying the radio coverage. I caught the last half thanks to AtBat.

            Remember to fill in your 25Man… email me to keep your Insider Picks a secret.

          • Bapah

            Not that kinda sick. All head, nose, cough, drip, drip, drip.
            Thanks, Scottsdale.

          • paul in p.v.

            What did you get (machine)?

          • Bapah

            Yup. My old Pavoni took a permanent break several years ago and I never replaced it. Hardly anything from my old machine fits this one. It’s a lot like many things; no two are the same and it will take a little finessing to make this one perfect.

            (All references to previous domestic partners have been removed to protect the health of the author.)

        • Bapah

          KT
          Parker
          Ruggiano
          Hernandez
          Cain
          Okert
          Gearrin

          • HaakAway

            Glad to have you.

  • “Augie” showing some good hands.

  • Duck Snorts always make me smile.

  • channelclemente
    • paul in p.v.

      Orange-and-black!

  • I can feel an E6 coming since JR has only taken reps at 2B…. (kidding)

    Tony Renda – Pride of Serra/San Mateo HS. (Brady-Bonds-Swann-Fregosi)

  • MM came out of the gate Hacking. Hmmmm 0 for 2.

  • Appalled7

    I wonder how Jeremy feels about the shift…

    • paul in p.v.

      Glug! :o)

    • paul in p.v.

      He might want to listen to Shawn Estes to learn what not to say.

  • Nevins PLUS 1 on that “read”

  • Mr. Sarcastic

    Well that hit from Rollins should lock up his spot on the roster now.

  • BALDHEADSLIKK

    Affeldt is the perfect remedy for insomnia!

  • BALDHEADSLIKK

    Hi friends bb is back and its gonna be a great time over here once again!

    • Glad to have you back here Slikk!

    • Hows Thy Love Life Going ?

      • channelclemente

        What a dumb question.

        • He and I talk off line. You OK Bunky?

          • channelclemente

            TMA, taking it offline is a good idea.

          • I have traditionally asked him that question for the last three years …..

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  • dgg

    Nick Hundley did his homework and came prepared.

  • dgg

    My two favorite Giants baseball tweets of the day:

    Hank Schulman 1hr ago:
    Blackburn with a “don’t forget me” inning: two strikeouts, weak bouncer to third.

    Alex Pavlovic 1hr ago:
    Panik hit a single, Pence doubled off the wall, Panik scored. GIANTS ARE BACK.

    • Panda Puffs are Delicious

      It was really nice to read about Blackburn having a solid outing, I would love for him to have a “don’t forget about me” year. I think others have alluded to it but with Cain done after this year (or earlier) and Cueto having the ability to walk, there could be two open roster spots to start 2018. It sure would be nice if those two spots could be filled by Beede, Blach and/or Blackburn.

  • Bleacher Bob

    This really really sounds good. Welcome home Giants baseball.

  • Great story by Jeremy about Bad Glad hitting the highest infield popup out in the world.

    JA: “By the time the ball came down – Vlad was at third base. I asked him to sign the bat”

  • Jae-gyun Hwang might turn out to be like the 49ers Aussie Jarryd Hayne

    • Efrain

      hopefully not, because Hayne did nothing, ever.

      So you’re grouping them because they are foreigners? Other than that, no correlation.

      • HaHa – not even close to how my brain was thinking.

        Hayne: Never ran with ‘pads’ low as a Rugby player = could not adjust.

        Hwang: Has played competitive baseball back home at an “A” level.

        • Efrain

          That does not even make sense. I think Hwang will catch up at some point this Spring.

          It’s one game, you well know in the big picture it means very little. It’s the start of a long process.

          • It makes sense, you just don’t concur. A friend of mine, when I was high on Haynes arrival – told me he won’t adjust even tho the guy was a beast. You KNOW Hayne is not part of ANY Shanahan plans.

            Hwang – needs to quickly make adjustments to the SPEED of the ML game.

  • Bleacher Bob

    She persisted. Probably a Giants fan.
    https://www.outsideonline.com/2158546/our-lady-strays

  • BOOM!

  • Mr. Sarcastic

    Walk off winner! That’s a nice ST opener!

  • Appalled7

    Spring Training means nothing, but it’s always fun to win on a walk-off.

    • paul in p.v.

      That the whole of 2017 ends this way! Glug, A7!! ;o)

    • Moooooooooose

      Yay! Appalled is back!

      • Appalled7

        Aww, thanks MOOOOOOOOSE! Good to see you, too!

  • channelclemente

    Cubs and Giants tomorrow. Cain pitching.

    • Bleacher Bob

      Zastryzny has nothing.

      • Zastryzny = “Eye Chart” name

      • channelclemente

        Bear bones, so to speak.

    • The fan pigeons and scavengers will be on their fences tomorrow rooting for ignominy.

  • Efrain

    With Marrero looking good, do we really need Belt?!?

    If Cueto leaves after the season, he could get us another starter in a package deal.

    😉

    • Make sure you always take care of your special other half Mr. E.

      https://tinyurl.com/h4ycmr4

    • Matthew

      Dude…you’re like Spandau Ballet: one hit wonder

      • Efrain

        c’mon Matthew you know you liked their first album, plus they had more than one hit.

  • channelclemente

    Launch angle and swing path according to Chris Denorfia, and Charlie Blackmon.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/charlie-blackmon-and-chris-denorfia-on-launch-angles/

  • @AlexPavlovic – It’s throwback day here: Freddy Sanchez, Bengie Molina and Jeremy Affeldt are all on the field.

    Hope they took a photo – especially for the Ghost Sanchez.

  • DrLefty

    Don’t know if anyone’s posted this, but here’s the Giants’ radio and TV schedule for the Cactus League games.

    https://twitter.com/bittergiantsfan/status/835285241598091264

    • Matthew

      Nice. Thank you…hope the meeting was worth it!!!

      • DrLefty

        Nope. Not even close.

        I was sneaking peeks at my phone’s At-Bat app, and it was bewildering. It described the first inning thus:
        Panik singled
        Belt tripled but Panik didn’t score
        Morse got a single that scored Belt
        Morse stole second

        Meanwhile, the beat writers were Tweeting that Pence had knocked in Panik. The app went on to claim that Bumgarner had pitched a 1-2-3 second inning.

        None of that was correct, of course, other than Panik’s original single. The beat writers were correct. And Bum only pitched one inning.

        So either the app guys were high or it was #FakeNews. I should have figured when it said Morse stole second.

        • Matthew

          That’s too funny…because it’s very relatable…that app should be outlawed. Baseballboarding…cruel and unusual

    • Andres The Forever Giant

      Is Doug Greenwald calling the MLB.com Giants ST games again? I wish the audio quality could be improved somehow; it’s always sounded like maybe one step above two tin cans and a string!

      • DrLefty

        I don’t know, but probably. Doug and Shawn Estes…ugh. I don’t know how a team that’s had four HOF broadcasters and two more who’ve been finalists can let those two hacks do anything, even spring training.

  • The Oracle

    In signing Marrero, the Giants got a guy they hope might be another Duvall. They both hit with power in the minors, but never really got a big league shot with their original team. Maybe they learned something.

    • Matthew

      House of Duvall, Season 3!

      • channelclemente

        Cabin of Duvall, maybe.

      • paul in p.v.

        Duvall looked purty bad on that 2B by Pence.

  • channelclemente
    • Bapah

      Let’s hope this all blows up in his face. I thought this country was founded on religious and political freedom. Something’s going to happen from which we’ll have a tough time recovering.

      • The Oracle

        The USA recovered from a Civil War and two World Wars. I’m pretty sure it can recover from Donald Trump.

        • paul in p.v.

          Depends on how long he holds power. The USA has never been threatened by fascism before.

          • The Oracle

            Please point out the other nations where the “fascist” leader is openly mocked, hated and ridiculed by half of the population, or where his intentions are thwarted by courts and other sectors of the government. While there’s plenty to reasonably dislike about Trump, the level of over-the-top hysteria amounts to the largest, longest and most overly dramatic collective tantrum in history.

          • paul in p.v.

            I don’t argue with walls.

          • The Oracle

            That’s a pretty good strategy when you don’t have a rational argument.

          • paul in p.v.

            You miss law school don’t you.

        • Efrain

          oversimplifying the situation, yes Americans have survived wars before, but what you are missing is that it is much easier for White Americans to make it through tough times, no one really scrutunizing

    • dgg

      “Immigration officials let Camacho-Ali go after she showed them a photo of herself with her ex-husband, but her son did not have such a photo and wasn’t as lucky. Mancini said officials held and questioned Ali Jr. for nearly two hours, repeatedly asking him, “Where did you get your name from?” and “Are you Muslim?”

      When Ali Jr. responded that yes, he is a Muslim, the officers kept questioning him about his religion and where he was born. Ali Jr. was born in Philadelphia in 1972 and holds a U.S. passport.”

  • Bapah

    “It looks an awful lot more like it does now than it did before.”

    This was what an old boatbuilder said at the end of this episode. Now, I think he’s from Maine so that might make a bit of difference.

    As an old sailer and wood worker, I love this stuff. This guy is a master boatwright, but still…..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxu1oaHwIE8&ab_channel=TipsfromaShipwright

  • HaakAway

    My25ManGuys™ 2017
 … 20 of us are in; deadline is Midnight WMFT.
    Pick who will be on the 25-Man roster at season’s open.

    Here are the obvious “Core 18”:

    Starters: Posey, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Nunez, Pence, Span
    Bench: Hundley, Conor
Starting Pitchers: Bum, Cueto, Moore, Samardzija
    Bullpen: Melancon, Kontos, Smith, Law, Strickland

    Post the seven others you think will make it here in response to any HaakAway post.
To save time do not list all 25 unless you think one of these 18 will not make the 25-Man.

    ”25/25 Deadline” … By request here from some: You get two shots…
    February 25 is the deadline for your first picks … Spring Training is wide open then.
    March 25 is the deadline for your final picks … Spring Training is about to end then.

    *Questions? Write me at: My SF Giant Guy at g Mel d Ott com

    • giantc

      IF Bench — Tomlinson
      OF — Parker, Marrero (I am going off one AB?), Hernandez
      BP — Okert, Suarez
      SP — Blach (hoping they find a reason to DL Cain)

      This probably won’t happen as it seems like Bochy like to carry 8 pitchers and they will probably find a way for Cain to start and get lit up for two months before he gets “elbow tenderness.”

      • HaakAway

        I am Unrealistically picturing Cain gets three starts that will reveal some “recurring pain” and Blach gets his first start at home vs. the doggers. Or Cain is really better and takes on the doggers and does great.

    • Efrain

      Haak – I already submitted mine correct? Seems I did it awhile ago.

      • HaakAway

        Yes … Here is what I have:
        2/25 – Cain, Mac, KT, Gorkys, Rollins, Suarez, Osich
        You have 10 hours and 43 minutes to change it.

        • Efrain

          Gracias

        • Efrain

          Here you go, I’ve made some changes:

          Starters: Posey, Belt, Panik, Crawford, Nunez, Pence, Span, Mac
          Bench: Hundley, Conor

          Starting Pitchers: Bum, Cueto, Moore, Samardzija
          Bullpen: Melancon, Smith, Law, Strickland

          INF bench: Hwang, Tomlinson
          OF bench: Gorkys, Marrero
          Pen: Okert, Suarez, Cain

          I can see a scenario where Cain has an “injury” to start the season and Kontos/Gearrin get the final RH pen spot.

          • HaakAway

            Got it down for you. Good luck; picking some ‘fast starters’ it would appear.

  • 12xu

    Four long-time umpires have retired:
    “Veteran umpires Davidson, Hirschbeck, Joyce, Welke retire
    by Jonah Birenbaum 3d ago”
    http://www.thescore.com/news/1237139

  • Bapah

    Just so nobody else sits here for hours wondering what the hell are people doing and not posting comments. You’ll have to go through two extra steps to get to a new thread and catch up. Shame on you.

  • Efrain

    Looks like at least Cain is consistent, starting right where he left off last season.

    Let’s hope if he keeps getting pounded all ST, logic will prevail and Blach/Stratton/Beede start the season as #5

  • BOOM @ Parker