Spring Training Game Thread: Angels Vs Giants

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Greek Giant

Madison Bumgarner is batting 8th. I want Spring Training to be over. It’s way way way too long. Back in the day when players needed six weeks to get in shape it made sense. Today it is just overkill, almost as bad as the NFL preseason.

I hope MadBum goes yard.

The Line UP

Span CF
Nunez 3B
Pence RF
Williamson LF
Belt 1B
Hundley C
Panik 2B
Bumgarner P
Rollins SS

  • Breckeroni says Good Luck UC Aggies Hoopsters!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P7PMPWJX34

    • paul in p.v.

      Reckon Cal crashed and burned…

      • Embarrassing yesterday in NIT to Cal Bakersfield.

        Cuonzo and Rabb are IMO both gone. One to the NBA and one to another coaching job

    • DrLefty

      Yay, GO AGS!

  • Under the watchful eyes of Pat the Bat Burrell the Giants conducted their Spring Training weight room shout outs. Today it was JT vs. The Kelbster. After watching a rather inflated JRoll – KT decided not to lift and remain healthy while leading the River Cats to success.

    https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/788129349404811264

    :o)

    • Matthew

      The dude lifted 6 Kelby’s????

    • ROTFLMAO

  • Michael Scott

    It’s kind of like magic- all these young guys who got banished to minor league camp will suddenly show up back here and start playing in the Cactus League games. I don’t think that a lot of folks remember this but it happens every year. Probably in a week or so, it will happen.

  • HaakAway

    MyGuy™ makes me root for the prospects wherever they go…
    Heston starts today for the Mariners vs. the doggers. 7 IP in ST and 0.00 ERA.
    Mejia started for the Twins today and went 3.2 IP 4H 8K. … 0.87 ERA so far.

    • Michael Scott

      It would be nice to see those guys make it, especially Heston.

  • crawnik
    • Matthew

      And he’s an accomplished rapper!

      • crawnik

        He’s pretty good.

      • RobDeer

        He’s amazing. But, then again, I just saw Glass Half Full: The Musical last nite so I’m feeling pretty optimistic. However, there was one older gentleman up in the balcony who kept screaming, “It’s half empty, I tell you!!” It was rather distracting.

  • channelclemente
    • Michael Scott

      The cry is heard throughout TWG- ” Can he play center field”?

      • RobDeer

        And throw better than a porpoise?

        • Michael Scott

          Your reference?

          • RobDeer

            A Span reference. Per Mateo. Or Slappys McGraw as I dubbed him, since you didn’t.

          • Michael Scott

            Who is Mateo?

          • RobDeer

            Matthew. C’mon, Chef.

          • RobDeer

            I mean, MR Monds

          • Michael Scott

            I don’t know of any Matthew person.

          • RobDeer

            I see what you’re doing and I like it.

          • Michael Scott

            Thanks, I’m glad that somebody knows what I’m doing.

          • Matthew

            Make Span Great Again

  • paul in p.v.

    Love Nuñez’s athleticism.

    • Michael Scott

      When Span walked, did he hustle to 1st base?

      • paul in p.v.

        120 mph.

        • Michael Scott

          See, the slacker doesn’t even know when to hustle.

          • paul in p.v.

            Incorrigible.

  • Sgbssfg

    It is so nice to have 2 straight afternoons of Giants baseball. Madison is looking a little older, but he’s not playing like it.

    • 610nm

      He wants his Silver Slugger back.

      • Sgbssfg

        I wonder if he is the first pitcher to bat this preseason.

  • Surf Maui

    The Bum is dealing in post season form

    • Lunch_Box

      Save some for October.

  • paul in p.v.

    From what I’ve seen this Spring, I’m worried about Mac (not) hitting curve balls.

  • RobDeer

    Watched the Giants preview last night and Span was Flannery’s pick for a player to shine this year. So I guess we’ll have to start shredding Flannery.

    • RobDeer

      Here, I’ll start. Effin Flannery. He’s no Roberto Kelly.

    • 2holehitting

      You know they just pick the guys who stunk it up last year. He was the leading stinker upper.

      • Michael Scott

        Not really.Based on expectations that would be Buster, Panik, and Duffy.

    • Lunch_Box

      Flannery isn’t one to irk me, but I’ll join in.

      Sonny Jackson > Tim Flannery

      • RobDeer

        He’s no Wendall Kim.

  • Bapah

    How’s the video feed for everyone? Mine is constantly freezing and repeating. This happened in the last Angels broadcast too.

    • Michael Scott

      So you pay for the video feeds?

      • Bapah

        They’re free. Are you paying? Guess you bought the “special” deal that was being offered by that guy in the overcoat again.

        • Michael Scott

          I’m not paying for anything.

    • Peter Johnson

      MLB Network TV, picture great .

      • Bapah

        I’m using the same on Chrome. Must be me for some mysterious reason.

      • Bapah

        Wait. MLB.TV or MLB Network? The two are different.

        • Bapah

          OK, just switched to MLB Network and it’s fine. It must be my MLB.TV feed.

        • Peter Johnson

          Yeah I know, Network .

    • paul in p.v.

      I’m streaming to my teevee thru Apple and it’s fine.

      (BTW, I spent another hour on the phone with mlb.com service yesterday because I couldn’t load the game on my laptop using either Chrome or Safari. The fix was the same as last week – needed to re-load Adobe Flash. Safari’s feed is not nearly as good as what Chrome was in the past.)

      • Bapah

        I may have to do it. I wonder how?

        • paul in p.v.

          Google search, and follow the instructions. Even I could do it.

          Señor Luddite

          • Bapah

            I earned that one.

          • paul in p.v.

            Shoot, I wasn’t even trying to be sarcastic. That time.

      • paul in p.v.

        p.s. Have to say (2X), the service geeks at mlb.com were great.

      • Bapah

        Why can’t you switch back to Chrome? Mac or PC?
        I just updated Chrome and it needed something but didn’t tell me what it was.

        • paul in p.v.

          It’s a Mac, which has worked for 5 years. Now I can go to mlb.com, but the game simply won’t open up on Chrome. I probably need an update, which I always decline. In the past I’ve had updates fk things up…

          • Bapah

            Load Chrome. Open Chrome pulldown. Go to about Chrome. It will tell you the status of Chrome and lead you in what to do. If everything is up to date, it will say so.

        • paul in p.v.

          Got it Bap. I am up-to-date, mil gracias!

          (However, it still won’t load. Could be a Mexico thing.)

    • 2holehitting

      Mine is unusually fine, I have terrible internet service as I am over a mile from the POP on uverse. We get at best 6MB and typically 1.5-3Mb.

      • Bapah

        AT&T is horrible for Internet service. I had a friend who worked for them and could get it for nothing and still didn’t use it.

  • steve k

    nice play nunez..pitching, defense, and timely, slappy hitting…go giants!!!

    • paul in p.v.

      All 3 positions! Giants’ IF!!

      • paul in p.v.

        p.s. Nuñez!!!

    • Peter Johnson

      I liked yesterday better, started game with 5 extra base hits in 1st inning scored 5 runs in 1st inning.

  • paul in p.v.

    Is Mike Trout really as good as Mickey Mantle was?

    • That is the closest comparison. Had the Mick not stepped into an expose irragation system at old Yankee stadium – I think it would have been *Ruth *Mays-Mantle. Had Clemente’s plane not crashed I believe it would have been *Ruth – Mays-Mantle-Clemente and then Aaron

      • steve k

        tell em how fast mantle was when he came up, right clutch? how many guys could bunt for a hit, and next time up hit it 500′?

        • Oklahoma “Hay Seed”

          I will say the fastest I ever saw/heard out of the RH batters box was Bo. Ripken tells a story about Bo’s first spring training game where he three times hit one hop smashes directly at the O’s SS’s with a man on first and all three times Bo beat the relay to first base …

      • The Oracle

        Clemente was 37 when he died, so he was near the end as a baseball player. He had a great career, but not as great as Aaron’s, and that wouldn’t have changed if he had lived.

        • Clemente was not near retirement and you are incorrect in that he would not have equaled a Mays or an Aaron, but clearly and Aaron.

  • paul in p.v.

    Glad that J.C. Romero is in the American League.

    • paul in p.v.

      Whoops. J.C. Ramirez. But it’s still true.

  • paul in p.v.

    Man, did Bum toy with Valbuena like a cat with a mouse.

    • paul in p.v.

      5 innings, 53 pitches.

      • Way under at 75 TP’s given – 22

        • RobDeer

          I love when you do the math for me.

  • I know The Chef is working on more but this is so worth it:

    Baseball names for y’all:

    Clutch- Razor Shines
    CC-Vinegar Bend Mizell
    Lefty-Bunny Fabrique
    Peter-Heinie Meine
    Rob Deer-Kid Fears
    Foothills- Bristol Robotham Lord
    Appalled -Pearce “What’s The Use” Chiles
    Michael Scott- Wonderful Terrific Monds III
    Haak-Matt Batts
    Efrain-Grover Lowdermilk
    Steve-Boileryard Clarke
    610-Moonlight Graham
    Bapah-Bud Weiser
    2 hole-Stubby Clapp
    Sgbssfg-Pretzel Pezzullo
    buyselltrade-Slick Castleman
    dgg-Baby Doll Jacobson
    Peachy-Bunny Brief
    John Myhill -Count Sensenderfer
    Moooooooooose-Rabbit Warstler
    Paul -Orval Overall
    Oracle-Orator Shafer
    Kramerica -Yats Wuestling
    crawnik-Mudcat Grant
    Surf Maui -Steamboat Struss

  • 2holehitting

    I know it is still early in spring but what gives with Hunter, Crawford and Span. They are having a terrible time getting hits

    • Peter Johnson

      Crawford has 7 hits in 3 WBC games.

      • Peter Johnson

        Might be 5 hits and a walk, but close enough .

    • RobDeer

      That’s funny, I thought Craw hit .400 in the first 3 WBC games. I guess that doesn’t count. Let’s just analyze his avg in the ST games he’s played.

      • Bapah

        It’s 2 hole. No language and math skills; just opinions. And what do they say about opinions?

        • RobDeer

          They’re like elbows?

          • Bapah

            Yeah, that’s it.

          • 2holehitting

            sharp elbows

          • Bapah

            No. Now I remember. It’s 2 holes, everybody has one and they all stink.

    • Matthew

      Carl Crawford plays for the Nippon Ham Fighters, right?

  • Sgbssfg

    I’m thinking Bumgarner will pitch until he has a lead, if they let him.

    • RobDeer

      Because we need to get him a win?

      • paul in p.v.

        It’s weird, but I was hoping that for no reason whatsoever. Coulda happened in the 5th with a guy on 2B, but Señor 4-3 went 4-3.

  • I think Bum is ready for the season to start.

    • DrLefty

      He looks a lot better this spring than he did last year–I remember he had a foot problem and a tight oblique or something, and then he started the season with the flu. I thought he looked very sharp on Friday when we were there, and he’s Stud Ace Bum today.

  • Surf Maui

    If Michael Morse an play the field even a little, I want him on the team!!!

    • DrLefty

      He has a wife and two baby girls. No playing the field!

      • Matthew

        Bada BOOM!

        • Sgbssfg

          I thought you had to work.

          • DrLefty

            “work”

          • Matthew

            Done…just in time to see Blach give Bochy some Cain excuses…

      • Peter Johnson

        I think even if not with the Giants he will get a MLB job after this good spring showing .

        • RobDeer

          He’s already said it’s either the Giants or retirement.

          • Michael Scott

            I’d bet that he would change his mind if anybody wanted him.

      • Surf Maui

        What fun is that?

    • 2holehitting

      He can be the big bat off the bench they have been missing…

  • DrLefty

    Morse, Hill–making it tough. Hundley keeps hitting, too. So glad to have him as backup C.

    • paul in p.v.

      More than Brown I take it? Trevor was really good behind HP yesterday – I was remembering how he jumped over Susac and Hactor (both injured, albeit) last year. I sure hope they hand onto him.

      • DrLefty

        He has options. He’ll go to Sacramento. Hundley has a guaranteed contract. He’s the guy.

  • Peter Johnson

    Blach not helping himself .

    • DrLefty

      I hear Mike Trout’s a pretty good hitter.

      • Peter Johnson

        2 strikes

        • Matthew

          TROUT

          • Peter Johnson

            Look it up he K’s a lot , I think about a 175 times 1 year

          • Matthew

            TROOOOWWWWWTTTTTTT

          • Peter Johnson

            Actually 184 times .

          • DrLefty

            MVP! MVP! MVP! MVP!

          • Peter Johnson

            Overrated !

          • Matthew

            Are you serious? Every time I have a ray of hope…..

          • Peter Johnson

            The WAR crowd thinks he is the greatest player ever, his first5 full MLB seasons compared to a player that gets no respect’s first 5 full MLB seasons, the other player more Stolen bases, more runs scored, and slightly less HRs like 7 fewer, slightly less RBI, other player batted leadoff most of the time , both of them won multiple Gold gloves, who is the other player ?

          • Matthew

            Oh, I forgot they were playing Strat-o-matic…my bad

          • Peter Johnson

            Bobby Bonds

          • Matthew

            You’re talking to the absolute wrong crowd. We all respect the greatness of Bobby…but that’s grasping for really weird straws.

          • Peter Johnson

            Trout 580 runs, Bobby, 613 runs, Trout 163 HRs, Bobby, 156 HRs, Trout,139 SBs, Bobby 206 SBs, Trout 481 RBI, Bobby 446 RBI .

          • Matthew

            That is very Rainman of you

          • Peter Johnson

            Since I was a kid collected Baseball cards and compared stats of the great players in the game, just like Rain man

          • Matthew

            Atta babe…we have that in common

          • DrLefty

            LOLOLOL

          • Matthew

            Yeah, he’s terrible

          • 2holehitting

            If Belt could only K at the low low rate of Trout , he might be considered an MVP candidate just like Mike

          • Peter Johnson

            Belt has never K’d 184 times .

          • 2holehitting

            That is only because Bruce does not give him as many at bats as Trout gets. If you compare Plate appearances and the K rates, belts 147K’s in 2015 was worse that Trouts K rate of 184. Overall for their careers Belt has a higher K rate per plate appearance as well.

          • Peter Johnson

            It is close , Trout has K’d at least 136 times every full year of his Career .

          • 2holehitting

            Belt 1% more.

      • 2holehitting

        Pujols is pretty good as well

        • DrLefty

          So I’ve heard.

        • Matthew

          Is “Pujols” Latin for “2Hole”?

          • 2holehitting

            No but Mathew was latin for taking it deep

          • Matthew

            Thankfully, that’s not my name

  • Matthew

    I think that’s more more runs than Blach has given up in his entire career with the big club….at 2. Which means….he’s really good

  • DrLefty

    OK, this is a disaster–because of the “Cain excuses” for Bochy. Ughhhhh

    • It’s only Spring Training. It WILL work out.

      • DrLefty

        It might not.

        • The Dog Days are an amoeba. Pitchers and catchers are bored. Been there since Feb 19th or so. They want the games to be for real asap.

    • Sgbssfg

      Yes, but the ball felt good coming out of his hand.

  • 2holehitting

    And this guy Blach is the peoples choice for the number 5 starter?

    • DrLefty

      Yes. Absolutely. Anyone But Cain.

      • 2holehitting

        Has Cain had 5 up 5 on yet this spring?

        • DrLefty

          Cain has an ERA of nearly 10 this spring and gave up five runs in an inning the last time he pitched. Blach’s been WAY better until today. Cain hasn’t had one good outing yet.

          • I approve of the word ™ “Yet”.

          • DrLefty

            “yet” since 2013.

          • paul in p.v.

            What’s 3 years between friends?

      • Michael Scott

        He’s keeping Cain in the mix.

        • channelclemente

          And he should, IMO.

          • Matthew

            I’ve been of that opinion, but I hope the correct decision is made.

      • RobDeer

        ABC!!

      • crawnik

        4 runs allowed by Ty and he still has a lower ERA than Cain.

        • Sgbssfg

          And he got out of the inning andfollowed it with a clean one. Learning experience.

          • crawnik

            That’s a fact!

        • Michael Scott

          Low bar.

    • Ham & Egging It

      The “Blach Heads” will not be denied.

    • Matthew

      Yup. …gonna get a vulture win!

    • Keep’n It Real

      Here’s what you’ll hear tomorrow:

      “He (Blach) had problem with his release point today; which typically does happen in Spring Training games. The main thing is to get his pitches in, so he can build up his arm strength. Bochy and Rags aren’t going to be concerned by this. He’s had a good Spring.”

      • 2holehitting

        Isn’t that heard today after the game with Bruce in his office leaning back on his chair….

        • Keep’n It Real

          That was my inner-Krukow, but you’re right. That said, if it was Bochy…I would have added “Grab a beer” at the beginning. 🙂

      • Michael Scott

        Sounds familiar.

    • It is spring training

      • Matthew

        It is 2 hole

      • Michael Scott

        For everybody, I might add.

        • 2holehitting

          Not for Cain on this blog.

          • Matthew

            You’re right…Spring does last 43 months for some

          • Michael Scott

            Doesn’t mean shit what any of us thinks about it. I’ll add what I said about the Rollins bashing-it’s on Bochy and the FO, not Cain and Rollins. It’s asinine to be trashing a guy who is just trying win a job.

    • Efrain

      i think it will not matter by mid season, by then Beede should have leapfrogged over him in the pecking order.

  • steve k

    bedrock jr. era last year was 1.12. ring a bell anyone?

  • Bobby Evans: If Cain doesn’t win rotation spot he could be sent to minors
    http://www.knbr.com/2017/03/15/bobby-evans-if-cain-doesnt-win-rotation-spot-he-could-be-sent-to-minors/

    Kuiper says Evan – Bochy and the Investors will give Cain as long a chance as possible based on some of the things Cain has provided for the Organization + the PG. That said Duane said all the good vibes won’t mean a thing if Cain cannot get hitter after hitter out consistently.

    https://audioboom.com/posts/5710504-3-15-duane-kuiper-talks-wbc-and-giants-spring-training?t=0

  • David Price can’t answer the bell either (Cain and others) – Should the BoSox 86 him

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18905811/boston-red-sox-lhp-david-price-likely-start-season-disabled-list

    • DrLefty

      Price is injured. He threw 230 innings for the Sawx last year. Hardly the same situation.

      • Back in 2010 Cain threw @ 223 Inn and then backed it up with 221 and then 219.

        He never really shut it down due to high Inn pitched but it is possible they have come home to roost.

  • Matthew

    I’m really not sure we have a left field problem at all….

    • RobDeer

      Not watching. Gimme a report, McGraw.

      • Matthew

        Hard slaps …HARD.

        Overall, both Parker and Williamson seem very ready for the big club. They took the off season seriously

  • Sgbssfg

    Beast!

    • 2holehitting

      He is myGuy for a bench roll

      • Sgbssfg

        Last year we lacked pinch hitting power for much of the season, until Conor got hot. Not sure if we can afford a pure hitter, and I’m a big Morse fan. I expect some of those scouts in the front row have sharpied a big DH next to his name.

        • RobDeer

          I said this below but I’ll repeat it here. Morse has said it’s all or nothing with the Giants. That he’ll retire if he doesn’t make the SF squad. Further reason to root for him, IMO.

          • Sgbssfg

            Sorry, missed your earlier comment.

          • RobDeer

            Don’t be sorry, I was just acknowledging that I was repeating myself.

          • Matthew

            Say again?

          • RobDeer

            The Musical!!

          • paul in p.v.

            Oh yeah, dat’s correct.

        • Michael Scott

          IMO, he might make the team if they carry 5 OFers. Doesn’t really matter if he plays in the OF or not.

        • livfreerdi

          That’s the tradeoff this year, it appears: is a DH/PH type more valuable than the last reliever in the pen. Seems clear to me that Boch and I disagree on this.

        • paul in p.v.

          I sure hope so. MM belongs in the AL.

  • Rick Barrys Son shooting underhand free throws. – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd1wUeOkrrU

    I know Warrior Center George Johnson shot underhand and *maybe* Clfford Ray also tried it.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2017/02/12/rick-barrys-son-using-granny-free-throw-break-records/97823154/
    http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=14267459
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2687057-floridas-canyon-barry-son-of-rick-barry-shoots-underhanded-free-throws

    Barry is tops in fathering 4 former NBA/CBA players: Brent, Drew, Jon and Scooter Barry with Scooter the only one playing and winning a CBA title. A fifth son, Canyon, currently stars at the University of Florida as a 5th year Sr. Brent won the NBA Championship in 2005 with the San Antonio Spurs thus Rick and Brent became the second father-son duo to both win NBA Championships as players.

    Superstar athletes and dads though can point to Archie Manning with Peyton and Eli.

    • Keep’n It Real

      They showed the Father/Son NBA Career scoring totals last night…and it’s clear the Barrys are going down soon.

      • Dell Steph and Seth?

        • Keep’n It Real

          It was only one son for each Father/Son combo. Seth was somehow left out of the equation. Kobe and his Dad were #1.

          • Matthew

            That combo was akin to Hank and Tommy

          • Surf Maui

            Or me and Barry Bonds

          • Pow Thwak YES

          • Jellybean!!

            Like they said below – that’s a lot of Kobe but I will give him props:
            1975–1979 Philadelphia 76ers
            1979–1982 San Diego Clippers
            1982–1983 Houston Rockets

            Total Points 12,584

    • Ham & Egging It

      Is he the last of Rick’s bb playing kids or are there more on deck?

      • Peter Johnson

        the last one, this son , is from his 2nd Wife, not the same mom as the other sons .

      • Unless Rick has another of several mid life crisis – this one might be it and he shall redirect to the grand-boys or girls.

        At one time Steve Garvey may have been one of the odd answers to “who won the Breeders Cup” – but apparently SG resolved his *side business.*

        • Ham & Egging It

          Rick’s grand kids will have a helluva bb sensei should they choose that path. I’m not sure if Rick’s first 3 sons are still wary of pop.

    • totalfan62

      WAY back in the day, Guy Rogers as well.

  • 2holehitting
  • channelclemente

    Some data to consider if pull hitters insist on hitting into the shift, a whopping .173 point difference in GB BABIP. Hey Belt, want a batting title????

    https://i.imgur.com/It8m20p.png

    • 2holehitting

      Got to swing the bat to hit the ball. Belts issue is his walk and K rates

      • channelclemente

        You clearly don’t see the connection, but should.

        • Bapah

          (IBH) Irrational Belt Hater

      • Michael Scott

        You seem to have an issue.

  • Matthew

    Who called the vulture win?!?!

    I DID…THAT’S WHO

    • steve k

      i missed the last 2 innings. i heard phil regan got the W? you were all over it, juanito..

      • Matthew

        Sweet ball fan reference!

        • totalfan62

          The Dominican Dandy. All that needs be said.

  • Matthew

    Plesac giving the Giants love…..

  • Michael Scott

    The Donalds new travel ban blocked again, at least for now.

    • The Oracle

      Those who enjoy it when judges ignore laws they disagree with would no doubt feel differently if the same thing occurred to laws they favor.

      • paul in p.v.

        You mean “so-called judges.”

      • Bapah

        By Laws, do you mean executive orders that are borderline legal/illegal?

        • Bapah

          This is the reason you’re not on the bar, just in the bar.

          • The Oracle

            I’m not the world’s foremost authority, but I am a member of the bar in two states, was a practicing attorney for a few years, tried cases in state and federal courts, and argued cases before the Nevada Supreme Court and the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

          • JStreet

            Gosh, what happened?

          • The Oracle

            I found a job I loved, instead of just liked.

          • JStreet

            That’s always good. Same thing happened to me.

        • The Oracle

          In this case, it’s not borderline.

      • Michael Scott

        You are saying that the Constitution should bear no weight? The bottom line on this is that Donald’s own words and those of Rudy Giuliani exposed his real intention to institute the ban.

        • The Oracle

          I’m saying that the Constitution should be the basis for a judge’s decision, not their political views.

          • Michael Scott

            Judges appointed by a Republican president have ruled against the ban partly because It discriminates on the basis of religion and violates the US constitution.

      • Michael Scott

        I’ll add that anybody who can’t see that Donald in huge trouble is either an idiot or willfully ignorant. I find it astounding that you defend him on any level.

        • The Oracle

          I’m not defending him. I’m saying that when judges make decisions for political reasons, instead of following the law (and especially as amended, the law is overwhelmingly on Trump’s side in this), they’re not doing their jobs and throwing the system out of balance. It’s great when a particular decision coincides with your view, but bad practice in the bigger picture. Each branch of government has its role. The next time a judge oversteps his or her bounds for political reasons, the result might be one you don’t like.

          • paul in p.v.

            Hang those “so-called judges,” right?

          • The Oracle

            No, the ideal situation would be that judges stick to the law. Courts are absolutely necessary as part of the system of checks and balances.

          • JStreet

            Dred Scott, right officer?

          • Michael Scott

            His own adviser sabotaged his case, Miller said that new order was basically the same as the first one. His words, Rudy’s words, and Miller’s words exposed the intent. And he has actually threatened one of the courts that ruled against him. Sorry pal, but he is out of control.

      • JStreet

        You mean like Dred Scott?

    • channelclemente

      The funny thing is, he probably could have sailed it through if he and his minions just kept their mouths shut.

      • Michael Scott

        And his speech just now in Tennessee just about confirmed what intention was. He’s giving all the more reason that his ban should be blocked. He’s sabotaging his case.

        • channelclemente

          I read his speeches, I quite frankly, can’t tolerate listening to him. In any case, reading his comments are a good exercise in forensic psychology.

          • JStreet

            Yeah, I’d rather not look or listen. “I gave at the office.”

      • Michael Scott

        And he actually threatened the 9th circuit court that had overturned the ban in the Washington case . Whatever one thinks of the rulings, that is an outrageous abuse of the power of the POTUS.

        • channelclemente

          We passed outrageous some time ago, IMO. We’ll need some special adjectives before this ends, I’m afraid.

    • JStreet

      Good. What a bunch of BS.

      • Michael Scott

        Unrelated, he has just admitted that he based his wire tapping charge on what he read 6 weeks ago on an article in, all of places, a NY Times piece -that he misinterpreted as proof of the wire tapping . He has also based it on a report by Bret Baier on Fox news. THAT is his ” evidence”. He just can’t stop screwing himself.

        • JStreet

          Would’ve made as much sense to’ve based it on something Brett Butler said on ESPN, see. At least so it’s Giants Baseball related.

  • Matthew

    Craw and Posey on the bench for USA tonight

    ( this is your Sports Minute on TWTP)

    • RobDeer

      That’s odd, isn’t it? I assume this is a fairly important game.

      • Matthew

        Plesac said it was likely to get AB’s for the SS that hadn’t played yet…might only be a 5 inning deal

      • Peter Johnson

        Venezuela Pithing King Felix tonight, Lot of the big hitters were not hitting , but Miggy hit a HR in 9th vs Italy, Odor, V. Martinez, Cargo, Altuve, if they get hot USA is in trouble .

    • The King Flu ?

  • Sgbssfg

    Aggies leading 18-13. Game is on TruTV for some of you.

    • The Oracle

      Did you ever actually meet the guy?

      • Does it matter?

      • Bapah

        Do you incite when you’re on the street too? Not really commendable for someone in law enforcement.

        • The Oracle

          I’m not at work here. I do my job well, and expressing my personal opinion isn’t usually part of my job. This is a forum for discussion. It’s about opinions. From all accounts, Allen seems like he was a good man, although at least one person had a negative view of him. But as far as I’ve read, no one here knew him well, although a few met him casually. I’m wondering how well, if at all, the person who says goodnight to him just about every day knew him.

          • JStreet

            What’s it matter if we met the guy, what we admire are his photos. I’m grateful for CU to share his work. You seem easily rankled on these sort of subjects. Why not just look at (or don’t) the photos?

            I never met CU, but his persona is a character in one of my songs. And it works, both as art and as an audio representation. But I never met him, so?

          • The Oracle

            Not easily rankled. I’ve been reading these goodnights for months. I’m just curious.

          • JStreet

            Well, my guess is they never met in person. Still don’t think it would matter, to admire his art. There’s a few here admire my art, but I probably won’t meet. It’s the modern world.

            The point others are making, you’re coming across as really uptight. Challenging certain folks for the most inane reasons.

          • Baldheadslikk1

            Thats a funny word rankled!!

          • totalfan62

            And for the record, many of our regulars did meet Allen, and attended Giants games with him. Furthermore, I doubt that anyone here “had an issue with him”. A nicer and classier man few of us will ever meet or know.

          • The Oracle

            I believe it was Paul that didn’t like the way he had responded to a comment of his, but I’m sure that your description is accurate.

          • channelclemente

            You crazy crab.

      • The fact that you think you need the answer to that question amuses almost everyone on this sight. Have I ever met you?

  • Matthew

    Aggie Minute: up 40-36 with 15 left

    • channelclemente

      I have a friend who works at The Graduate here in Davis, it’s a student pub/sports bar. I bet they will need straps to keep the roof on if they win it.

      • Matthew

        Up 4 with 2 minutes left

        • Matthew

          Make it up 1…

  • Matthew

    Winner, winner, Aggie Dinner!

    • Sgbssfg

      Bossy cow cow to you, too.

  • DrLefty

    GO AGS!!!!!!!!

    • channelclemente

      Go by and see if The Graduate exploded!

      • DrLefty

        I’m sure every bar in town was packed–not everybody gets “TruTV.” I had to Google it to find it on my own cable system.

        • channelclemente

          I have a friend who tends bar there and works the grill. They set their schedule to miss the game, not taking into account time zones. They will have been right in the middle of the insanity.

      • earlytimes

        Maybe if they beat Kansas

        • channelclemente

          Their first trip to the tournament, Kansas won’t be necessary.

    • Sgbssfg

      I was never comfortable with the decision to go from Division 3 to Division 1, but I can’t help but be happy for those young men, who will eventually have to go home and take take their finals

      • DrLefty

        Hubs dug out his 1998 national championship T-shirt to wear today.

        • Sgbssfg

          Remember it well.

    • Cueball

      Campus must be rocking. How empty will the classrooms be tomorrow?

      • Sgbssfg

        It’s finals week. Sorry mom.

        • DrLefty

          Finals are next week, but tomorrow will be the last day of class for many.

        • Sgbssfg

          That’s a relief, KCRA will have to print a retraction. This should be a response to DrL.

    • Matthew

      Congrats!!!!!!!!

  • Michael Scott

    Back to baseball “I always knew I was good. I was always good at it. I was always the best athlete. … Always the best player. Not only baseball, but every other sport too. … I was the best baseball player in New York when I was young. … Everybody wanted me to be a baseball player. But I was good at other things too. I was good at wrestling. I was really good at football. I was always good at sports. I was always the best at sports.”

    • earlytimes

      Q.How good a hitter were you?
      A. The best.
      “Baseball wasn’t a thing then.” 1963?
      Back in the day when we were winning all those wars.

    • channelclemente

      It was the hair.

      • Michael Scott

        In an interview with Fox News tonight that he said the word “wire tapping” was*mentioned* in the Times piece, hence the evidence that he said proved his claim.

  • channelclemente
    • Baldheadslikk1

      Im not but im a huge fan of the North East League coed badminton league are you familiar? Very riveting action and the crowds are tremendous!

  • DrLefty

    Aaaaaand…FIGHT ON!!!!

    It’s an alma mater doubleheader sweep!

  • Matthew

    Cutch just got Petco’d

    • USA Venezuela is turning out to be a good game. 4-2 USA.

      • Matthew

        I’m diggin’ this…

  • steve k

    if morse keeps hitting as well as he has, bochy’s decision on whether or not to put him on the OD roster gets more interesting. now, they do need a strong rh hitter coming off the bench, but since he’s so limited defensively, it’s a tough call. i was wondering how many AB’s could he get if he stays on the team all year, and remains healthy. they play 20 inter-league games. if he DH’s in each game, that’s about 80 right there. then, between his pinch hitting, and the occasional starts at first, especially when a tough lefty starts for the other team, he may get upwards of 150 AB’s. from what i recall, there’s a team in southern cal that has a pretty good southpaw, which gives our starting first baseman some trouble.

    when ST started, i didn’t think he had a snowball’s chance in hell of making the OD squad. now i’m starting to like his chance more and more with each frozen rope he hits.

    • PerSpeier35

      Problem with the DH idea Steve; Bochy doesn’t use the DH strategically to insert a better hitter, he always uses it to give Posey or Pence or whoever a day off the field. If they keep Morse they should DH him during interleague but that is not how the skipper rolls.

      • Michael Scott

        I know that it’s not the prevailing sentiment here, but I’m of the mind that Bochy rolls in whatever direction he thinks will help the team win. BTW, as many might remember, I was not a fan of the Beast, but I may be the first to think he might have some real value coming off the bench and getting an occasional start at 1st base. I still think so, but he’s hardly a lock, Mr. Cannonball Titcomb.

        • PerSpeier35

          We’ll know soon enough with regard to the helping the team win part, if he keeps Cain then that is debatable.

          BTW, I like at least part of that nickname Mike.

          • Michael Scott

            I wouldn’t debate what you say about the Cain thing. But you never know, if he can keep his ERA under 19.30 he might get the 5.

        • 610nm

          There are going to be some decent players left off the 25-man this year. I think the Giants would be happy to have Morse accept a MiLB assignment, pending developments such as injury or how the OF prospects do against regular season competition. And it is certainly easy to pull for the guy, who seems to be really enjoyiing himself at the moment.

      • totalfan62

        Also, those days that Belt gets a day or sits vs. a tough leftie are usually the days Posey gets a day out from behind the plate and plays 1B. I also think we have to remember that Morse is facing a lot of young pitchers and/or guys trying to earn a roster spot. He had those big hits in the 2014 postseason, but I also remember some lengthy dry spells during that season.

  • Matthew

    Baseball, Ray.

    • The WBC really grows on you. Didn’t care much for it years back but now it’s pretty exciting to follow.

  • Michael Scott

    Good Night all. As of now, I’m giving some thought of talking mainly about baseball tomorrow. And who knows, I might be ordered to do just that. The trouble with that is that one is not really talking baseball if one is just griping about the oldsters. That makes us real oldsters semi-upset.

    • JStreet

      Yep.

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    They were not playing small ball last night. Took some serious thwack to clear the San Diego fences.
    Bregman can sure hit. Good luck Team USA. PR and DR are certainly stacked. Got my $ on PR for the crown.

    • 610nm

      Japan comes into the final round, undefeated. It seems to be a good tournament this year. Baseball is the winner.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Excellent marketing. Football and basketball, I hardly knew ya.

        • 610nm

          Except, it is extremely hard to ignore basketball for the next two weeks. My entire sports section today involved various kinds of BB – well, it was a quick read, only of the headlines.

          Take care, have a great day!

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            You too, although writing up a couple of reports won’t be too great. P<.05 anyway.

  • Baldheadslikk1

    The problem with keeping Morse is this if he makes the team and sucks all season long the Gs will be reluctant to cut him , it seems to me at times theyre so worried about hurting a guys feelings then cutting a player and potentially bringing in a guy that makes sense for the roster.

    • Lunch_Box

      Probably why they’re still keeping players like Rollins around. Even Blanks was optioned (or DFA?) even though he hit better than others.

    • Michael Scott

      I don’t think they would have a problem to release him if he didn’t cut it – he won’t be making a lot of money,

    • Matthew

      You had a softer side when your beautiful granddaughter was the avatar

      • Baldheadslikk1

        Lolol that made me smile ok I’ll reinstall her lol!

  • steve k
  • Bapah

    EUREKA!

    “Whole-body vibration may be as effective as regular exercise”

    At Last. Exercise without exercising.

    • Matthew

      Hmmmm..that may lead to side benefits

  • HaakAway

    Final accident report out on Fernandez in Miami … driving and at fault for three deaths.
    Me in my 20’s … stupid, irresponsible, average … close-calls, damages to repair
    Fernandez in his 20’s … stupid, irresponsible, rich … close-calls, unrepairable damages

    • DrLefty

      Very sad.

      • HaakAway

        Your Philosophy Department has a great chance to discuss, “Why do sports victories unite people who do not even know each other?”
        Shared pride? Shared struggle/fight?

        • Mr. Sarcastic

          All I know is that when I was at the 2010 World Series parade, the feeling of being surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people who were all deliriously HAPPY was something that I’ll never forget.

          • totalfan62

            Other side of that coin is my out-of-market Giants fan existence. Y’all are my only source of joy and sharing, because in 18 years here in the Atlanta area I’ve come to know only four Giants fans.

          • 610nm

            Someone in my town drives a car with a Iowa plate, customized to read ‘BUSTR28’. Small town, so I’ve seen him driving, without any idea who he is. So I’m not quite alone, but TWG is my “safe port in the Cubs storm”.

          • HaakAway

            You got to be a Stalker of this driver.
            Get a Kojak light and pull him over some time for a friendly visit.
            Okay … find a better way but you got to be curious.

      • totalfan62

        Indeed. Also very disappointed in all this piling on by some of us here. That behavior is no better than that of those who would defend Fernandez. Let. It. Go.

        • Michael Scott

          You are right, it’s just terrible to be piling on the poor guy. BTW, Lefty does not agree with you on this. She agrees with those who are “piling on” poor Jose.

        • The Oracle

          What a load of BS. Piling on? How about being honest and accurate? Is this something that shouldn’t be judged? Two innocent friends of his died. You don’t like it when politics are discussed. Now, you think commenting on an awful act and how part of society, which I guess includes you, wants to excuse him because he was a great athlete is wrong as well. Let’s not talk about anything unpleasant or real, right? There should only be polite discussion about who should play LF? I’m happy you’re disappointed.

          • Michael Scott

            TF62 was on this from the morning after the 3 young men died. He got all het up when I said that the “others” who died actually had names.

    • earlytimes

      It’s appalling that Fernandez’s family attorney still insists he wasn’t driving, in essence wanting to blame one of the other two innocent victims.

      • Bapah

        And get out of being criminally liable.

        • The Oracle

          He got out of that by dying.

          • Bapah

            The estate is still vulnerable.

          • The Oracle

            That’s civil liability.

      • The Oracle

        $$$

        • DrLefty

          Exactly. They’ve already sued his estate, as well they should.

          • The Oracle

            From the minute this happened, the attorney was posturing with lawsuits in mind.

        • earlytimes

          As always.

    • Michael Scott

      Yet, the victims will be forgotten and this will be soon be known as the “Tragic Death of Jose Fernandez. ” In the report in the Miami Herald, Emilio Jesus Macias and Eduardo Rivero, are not even mentioned until the last line of the report. I get that the death of a celebrity will dominate the headlines but here’s how you get his name in ” Miami pitcher Jose Fernandez murdered Emilio Jesus Macias and Eduardo Rivero. “

    • The Oracle

      And because he could throw a baseball, people will feel sadness for him, despite the fact that he killed two friends who were there only because they were trying to watch out for him. If he weren’t a great pitcher, he’d just be a self-centered murderer.

      • 610nm

        You are correct that this got attention due to the person being a famous athlete. But completely wrong about murderer. As you know well, “bleeping stupid idiot” is more accurate, and on the legal side, had he survived, some degree of manslaughter would have been used. Haak’s got it right.

        • The Oracle

          Probably not a murderer in the legal sense, but certainly morally. And no, I don’t think “bleeping stupid idiot” accurately describes it. From the reporting, everyone involved was trying to convince him not to go out. He himself knew what he’d been doing. Then, not only did he take his boat out, but he had it up to 65 mph.

          Let me ask you this: if one of your kids had been his friend and lost their life while trying to look out for him, would he just be a “bleeping stupid idiot?”

          • 610nm

            Words kind of fail us here, don’t they? Fernandez certainly has to take all the blame. And I do totally understand your point about his ability to throw a baseball being irrelevant (except that it gave him access to a fast boat and drugs).

          • HaakAway

            He killed them; his choices led to their deaths.
            Were those two friends of his Users too? It probably is in one of the reports too so I can look it up. That matters on your question. right? If my kid is using with friends and ends up killed like this then he is a ‘beeping stupid idiot” too.

            If they were not using and let him drive like that without stopping him [at least long enough to jump ship] then they also made a mistake that night. You know this. You cannot help anyone by being sucked into their stupidity and ending up killed too.

          • Peter Johnson

            The other two did not have a boat license, and it was his boat, from what I read he was already messed up before they went on the boat, they could not talk him out of going out on the boat, he called them up very late at night, not sure the other two men were drinking .

          • HaakAway

            So it was the usual circumstance of a friend wanting to drink and drive and what do you do. Taking the keys away and offering them a ride home is the answer. They failed to do that and it cost them their lives.

        • Michael Scott

          At the time the accident occurred I noticed that Emilio Jesus Macias and Eduardo Rivero were just known as the “two others”.And thus it will always be. To this day, few people know that before Donnie Moore killed himself he beat the crap out his wife and left her for dead ( she did survive).
          Last I heard the Marlins were planning to “build a permanent memorial outside Marlins Park that will serve to capture Jose’s life and his legacy with the team and in the community.”
          How about this for a statue ?
          http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/sports/2016/09/25/marlins-pitcher-jose-fernandez-2-others-killed-in-miami-boat-crash/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-5/images/image.img.jpg/880/558/1474818602276.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

          • 610nm

            Good points: 3 humans died, and athletes aren’t gods. Marlins are in a sticky situation, aren’t they? Very few of us are 100% evil or 100% good, but mostly we’re just lucky that things like this didn’t happen to us in our young/stupid days.

          • The Oracle

            I don’t think it’s sticky. You don’t build a memorial to guy who did what Fernandez did. Pete Rose can’t get into the Hall of Fame, but Fernandez gets a statue? The morality there is a little off.

          • Matthew

            Bingo

          • Michael Scott

            Fernandez’s death was a tragedy, no question. And no doubt that many of us may have been lucky that our youthful misadventures didn’t end as this one did. Friends tried to dissuade the guys from taking to the waters-Emilio Macias texted his reply- “Trust me it’s not my time yet”

          • The Oracle

            Drunk driving is one level of stupid and wrong. Driving like a maniac while drunk takes it up a notch.

          • Michael Scott

            I think that I have addressed that quite clearly. Read my posts this morning.

      • DrLefty

        24-year-olds are not always great with the impulse control, so I have a bit of sympathy, but building a statue outside the park in his honor seems inappropriate to say the least.

        • The Oracle

          Don’t most people who kill others while drunk driving have statues?

    • Noce

      I read through the comments below and found the debate healthy. I will only add in a era where we are removing statues Jefferson Davis and Woodrow Wilson as symbols of racism, I think it’s inappropriate to put up a statue of a man who killed to people while intoxicated. To me it sends the same wrong reason.

    • John Myhill

      In the days after his death, the baseball sites were full of pictures showing his wildly exuberant behavior on the field to lament that someone who enjoyed life so much could die so young. Ironic…

  • Peter Johnson

    Carl has a nice article in the Mercury on the history and present and future of Giants Outfielders over the years .

    • DrLefty

      It was a good read. Excited to hear about Duggar coming along so fast.

      • Peter Johnson

        I agree what Bobby Evans said the Giants signed lots of veterans to play OF so young OF in the system never got a good opportunity .

        • DrLefty

          Yes, that was a good insight. Carl did a nice job with the history and current events in that piece.

          • Matthew

            ..and, he took care of the entire blog: A Rob Deer reference, lot’s of Long Ball Duvall, Nate the Great…

            I guess we can’t have it all, but the putrid record of OF picks through the ones prior (hopefully) to very recent is embarrassing

          • DrLefty

            Carl (through Evans) expressed some nuance, though–for example, if Roger Kieschnick hadn’t had a serious injury in 2012, he might have had a breakthrough opportunity. And that they possibly blocked younger outfielders from developing through trades and signing one-year stopgap veterans.

            With the list of possibilities, there could be a homegrown OF by 2019 or so. That would be something!

          • HaakAway

            Duggar in CF in 2018.
            6th round pick so no hype but at three levels his wRC+ has advanced 125, 130, 131. You keep your eyes on in him in Sac this year and you will know.
            Span can finish his contract as a good #4 OF a year from now.

          • paul in p.v.

            Or a good # 4-3. Haw!

          • Efrain

            finally a man of reason.

        • Efrain

          It’s ignorant to think that’s the reason. Young Giants OF don’t usually make because the system doesn’t draft those type of kids in the early rounds.

          That’s just stupid to think it’s all about the system.

  • The Oracle

    I used to love watching college basketball, but the one and done has kind of killed it for me.

    • Efrain

      There are 347 Division one schools and 64 teams in the tournament.

      Only 30 picks picks per round, 60 total each season.

      Doubt one and dones really affect the whole of NCAA basketball except for teams like Kentucky, Carolina and few others that get those kids good enough to be one and done.

  • Michael Scott

    Cool- local TV as Cain takes on the DBacks this evening. Should be tons of fun.

    • Mr. Sarcastic

      It will be a feeding frenzy regardless of how he pitches. Even if he does well, the performance will be decried as the blind squirrel finding a nut and now we’re screwed because that’s all Bochy needs to lock him in as the #5 guy. Sorry, but I’m rooting for a good outing from him anyway.

      • Michael Scott

        So am I.

    • Michael Scott

      Oops, that game is tomorrow.

  • crawnik

    If you had Notre Dame and Virginia to advance in your basketball brackets, congrats.

  • paul in p.v.
    • HaakAway

      Full Service Blog here … a quick link to vocal upgrade.
      I liked the schadenfreude terms … feeling it al the time when the doggers get bad news.

    • Matthew

      I’ve built my career on being oleaginous

      • paul in p.v.

        Sales. Not your fault, Mateo.

        • Matthew

          Just oiled my way into a contract with a cool Canadian based coffee company expanding into the US: Kicking Horse. Try some in Seattle when you get a chance!

          • channelclemente

            Hmm, isn’t that a Bain trained team . Money on the move for MnA.

          • paul in p.v.

            Will do, Mateo! :o)

          • Eh?

          • DrLefty

            I’m going to Seattle next week! Will keep an eye out.

          • Mr. Sarcastic

            When are you going? I’ll be up there too Wed-Fri

          • DrLefty

            Tuesday and will be there through the weekend. Conference at the Convention Center.

  • Michael Scott

    Hey, who needs a hangman if you can do it all by yourself?

  • channelclemente

    Interesting article on Quality of Pitch metric that says a lot of interesting things. About 2 dozen teams are using it, or something similar, to evaluate talent in MiLB and current pitchers in MLB. A paragraph in the article that came out of their analysis that is interesting for Giants fans is quite interesting to me..

    “For example, Johnny Cueto had a 4.31 QOPA (2016), but varied his pitch tempo a lot. Masahiro Tanaka had a 4.26 QOPA (2016) but threw an even distribution of six pitch types in all circumstances. Madison Bumgarner,
    4.29 QOPA (2016), was able to conceal his hold on the ball until
    release and thereby increase the deceptiveness of his pitch. These are
    all excellent pitchers – but their success is not measured so much by
    our yardstick of pitch quality (movement, location and speed), as other
    factors.”

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/measuring-the-quality-of-a-pitch/

    • Matthew

      I’m so weak at graph analysis, that i tend to think:

      Swing and miss: Quality of Pitch = GOOD
      Swing and crush: Quality of Pitch = BAD

      Therefore – Madison and Johnny = GOOD
      Potential #5 Blog Target dude = BAD

      • channelclemente

        There is a Giants page. Numbers no graphs. It’s interesting and a new way to evaluate both hitters and pitchers. For instance, you can pitch by pitch pick out guys who are mistake hitters or bottom feeders from those who are dangerous for any pitcher to face, no matter the quality of his stuff. I see the good bad stuff, but more information, IMO, only makes the game more interesting. Just my opinion.

        https://qopasanfrancisco.wordpress.com/

    • John Myhill

      Cueto’s deceptiveness is obvious and well-known but Bumgarner’s isn’t. People don’t seem to notice that he doesn’t generally throw (91 mph or so on the fastball) and he doesn’t have really great movement. the key for him (other than control, obviously) is his bizarre delivery, which is like 1/2 overhand rather than the usual 3/4. It’s just very hard to pick up the ball. I think it’s also the key to his ‘slutter’, which to me looks like a slider when he releases it but a cutter by the time it gets to the play–no one even knows what to call it but obviously it confuses the hell out of batters.

  • Tony Pena Sr has an out of body experience with Ump Will Little

    http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/03/wbc-ejection-will-little-tony-pena-sr.html

    • Matthew

      I’m always amused by “Umpire Ejection Fantasy League”

      What a society

  • paul in p.v.
    • It is entirely related to Duff Man

      • Bapah

        “Giants fans miss Matt Duffy. He was great on defense, he had that spectacular 2015 season, and he has a very large cat.”

      • paul in p.v.

        There’s the rub, Clutch.

      • earlytimes

        Not at all a factor for me. I like what I saw in Sept, just need to see more.

    • totalfan62

      Me too.

    • DrLefty

      The funny thing is that this time last year, there were people here and in Giants Nation who were questioning whether Duffy should be the Giants’ everyday 3B. Arroyo was raking in spring training, so why not promote him and have Duffy be a super-utility guy? It’s funny to have history repeat itself so soon.

      Litttle did we know that Duffy was going to be a “sell high” guy, instead. He’s doubtful for Opening Day, still recovering from his Achilles issue.

      • paul in p.v.

        Crap, I didn’t know that Duffman was still bothered by that Achilles. He’s gotta get off that turf.

  • R1 heading for second base and when he rounds the base he runs into the umpire. Now R2 falls down, gets up and heads for third where he is tagged out.

    You’re out son. http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/03/injury-scout-jeff-nelson-exits-wolf.html#more

  • Keep’n It Real

    Middle Tennessee could be breaking many brackets soon…

  • Matthew

    I just watched Boogie Puig…I mean Yasiel Cousins… I mean Yasiel Puig get thrown out of an exhibition game…an EXHIBITION GAME over a called 3rd strike that was borderline.

    New orleans has no major league baseball team, so LA is stuck

    • channelclemente

      Was it here or elsewhere someone was giving me shiit the other day for saying Puig was an embarrassment to the game.

      • Matthew

        TWG is THE home for shiit giving

      • Bapah

        Had to have been elsewhere. Piggy is loved and adored here.

      • Efrain

        not at all, you just have issues.

    • Efrain

      Puig is going to have great year, mark that down.

      He’ll give you a lot to get pissed off about.

      • Matthew

        Pay attention: I’ve defended him continuously on here. I find him to be a supreme talent, but even you must admit that his brain gets in his way

        • Efrain

          Have you not learned anything watching the WBC?

          Latin players grow up in systems where emotions are more out in the open, don’t grow up with the American old school mentality of showing no emotion.

          Sure they have to adjust to playing in the bigs, but there are fans that like when players show a little emotion.

          I see nothing wrong with it as long as it’s not some chronic issue. Getting booted once in awhile is no big deal.

          • Matthew

            Racist.

            Just kidding.

            I obviously get the differences, but if you are saying “Puig acts like all Latin players”, you ain’t watching. Getting thrown out of a March game in a borderline pitch by slamming his bat down? Because that was how he was raised in baseball??

          • Efrain

            no it’s not always a blanket statement. Sure not all Latin players act like that, but we know Puig has his moments. Doesn’t make him a bad person or a bad player. Just saying sometime you have to take it with a grain of salt.

          • John Myhill

            Puig is extreme by any standards. I would guess that even other Latin players get disgusted by his antics.

  • earlytimes
    • DrLefty

      Odd timing. From everything I’ve read and heard, the Giants are very pleased with Crick this spring, and per one beat writer, “No one has raised his stock more than Crick” in this camp.

      Wonder if Krukow’s just going on “old news.”

  • Peter Johnson

    Schulman on KNBR talking up all the vets, and being not impressed by the young players, he must have drank the koolaid !

    • Michael Scott

      What did he say? I don’t listen to KNBR, too many bozos.

      • Bapah

        Bozo’s don’t speak; they wouldn’t be a good on the radio, anyway..

        • Michael Scott

          I know of one Bozo who speaks. A lot.

      • Peter Johnson

        Do not Worry about Cain, Blach not lookin that good, worried about bullpen, might need to trade for another veteran, don’t worry about averages of veterans in spring training have track record, sounds a lot like Clutch .

        • Matthew

          I’m not a Hank fan….

        • Michael Scott

          What did say about not liking the young players?

          • Michael Scott

            Peter, Peter ,wake up. Did he really say that he is not impressed by the young players? Answer my question or I’ll change your nickname.

          • Peter Johnson

            The bullpen, and Blach not impressed by them .

          • Michael Scott

            Whaddya say we get the kids to give him a hot foot?

        • ThanksPeter

  • Bapah
  • channelclemente
    • Sgbssfg

      Next game 3:30 ish, Friday, TNT

  • Efrain

    St Marys is looking great so far. I’ve been following from afar, mostly since no a big Gonzaga fan and was hoping the Gaels would beat them this season in the Division.

  • Michael Scott

    Way off subject- Tina Fey is a very cool woman. That’s it.
    OK- back to whatever we were talking about.

    • Matthew

      I consider her a very hot woman, actually.

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      She has a cool book, Ms. Bossy Pants or something like that.

      • DrLefty

        Read it. Really enjoyed it.

      • Michael Scott

        I’ve asked Merna and Tina if they would be OK if I asked Tina to be my Wife-in-Law. They haven’t gotten back to me yet.

  • channelclemente

    2017 Opening Day estimated payrolls.

    https://i.imgur.com/6NHf3Za.png

    • Michael Scott

      I thought that was The Wall. I noticed from graph that the construction was , shall we say, unclear on the concept.

  • Michael Scott

    I just can’t get Rachel on the same page with us- she’s going skating in Guatemala for a few decades and we’ll be in a cave in the Philippines. The same idea, though.

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    Hey “oleaginous” Matthew, it’s me, “aqueous” Ryan,

    I just wanted to take the opportunity on this fine spring day
    to apologize. I am sorry for disrespecting and condescending your beliefs and choices.
    You are entitled to those. You have your properties, and I have mine.
    Our properties may not mix, but if an egg or other emulsifier comes along,
    we just might make a fine salad dressing with the right seasonings, or perhaps
    some anchovy “juice”, since the Ides of March are so recently passed.
    At any rate, life is salad, and greens are abundant in spring.
    We should all take more time to cherish beauty in the world,
    to appreciate that which is ephemeral and to preserve that which can last.

    Beauty may be a sweet swing, a dazzling display of glove artistry, or a knee buckling curveball.
    But most of all beauty is the time with the people and places, and animals, and objects dear to our hearts.

    Now that the Hallmark section is over, I wanted to check in with you about your Hosmerection.
    Is it still persisting? That was quite a significant poke. You may not like the cut of his jib, but admit it, you were more concerned about the name on the front of his jersey than the one on his back. He almost got one earlier too. I suggest giving it an ice bath. That will calm it down.

    Here’s a peace pipe. Hope you are still able to find time for your guitar between all of your successful sales and quippy bloggin.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbNF_Iod_iY

    • Matthew

      You just made my day. Thank you.

      Honest story..I jumped out of my chair and gave a Gretchen Wilson worthy “Hell Yeah” last night when Hosmer went deep…and totally thought of you immediately.

      Let’s keep talkin’ ball.

      Now help me get Chef over his boycott.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Everyone in their own space and time.

        • RobDeer

          Well done, gentlemen. You two are a couple of my faves so I was distressed to see such a tremor in the force. Now can we find The Sincere and get the band back together? I’ve taken up the triangle. Not only do I play all three sides, I play the chain.

          • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

            I have at least three music videos lined up to play for The Sincere.

            Just call me Paulie Shore, buh…..deee.

            Sometimes it’s not how well you play your instrument,
            it’s how well you shake your ass on stage.

    • Bapah

      If you two guys kiss, I’m going to vomit.

      • Matthew

        Turn your head.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        Ever see “The Crying Game”?

        • Matthew

          Which one of us is Reveal Boy?

        • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

          Or more recently, “Moonlight”?

      • Matthew

        We’re not smoking each other’s peace pipe or anything…

        • totalfan62

          Hey…what’s in that pipe!? Quality herb, I hope. PJ, you didn’t read that….

  • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

    Thought I’d play something with Sinead O’Connor. Give this a listen, it’s excellent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xuGqoB9gG4

    • Matthew

      Whooooa, duuuuuuude. 👍🏻

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

        St. Patrick’s Day and Cinco De Mayo have so much in common, right?

        • Bapah

          I was thinking Benghazi or, maybe central Africa.

      • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.
  • Matthew

    Miguel Cabrera is starting to look like the dude you haven’t seen in years and he shows up at the reunion and you think “whoa….dude looks , ummm…different”

  • just peachy.

    Well, so far I’m first in my tournament pool. My coworkers’ picks are pretty funny though, so it’s kind of hard not to be first.

    Also, based on Duffman’s latest twitter pic, it appears as though he may have a ginger hamster growing on his chin, which may or may not be interfering somehow with his heel recovery. Maybe it’s throwing off his balance. It’s okay though, we all make bad hair choices now and then…

    • Michael Scott

      I hear that he has been growing it since 2014.

    • totalfan62

      I’m off to a good start: 14 of 16 winners on day one. My only two misses: I had UNC Wilmington beating Virginia, and Maryland beating Xavier. We lived in Cincinnati for five years, and I was a big Xavier fan then. I liked ’em…shoulda picked them. Hope I do that well in today’s games. Go Duke!!

      • just peachy.

        Yeah I picked Maryland over Xavier too. I’m 15 out of 16 so far. Woot!

  • Michael Scott

    I mentioned this earlier but I thought that the game was tonight, but it’s tomorrow- the game is on NBC and Matt will start.If Span and Rollins are in the LU, this will be must see TV.

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      Can’t see TV for us “outsiders”.

      I ran into someone at the supermarket this evening and she asked what I was making for dinner and I said enchiladas (they’re in the oven) then asked what she’s making and she said “fried chicken” and it had to be like her husband’s mother made or it wasn’t quite right, etc…

      but I thought of you that you would have some good tips for her. Hope she nailed it tonight.

      • Michael Scott

        I passed the Pan Fried Chicken baton to Bapah- he nails it. She would’t like mine, anyway. Since I don’t like it if anybody passes it on, I give them my recipe with a crucial step omitted- because my recipe not patented. I do have a Utility Patent to cover my special Chicken Tongs but not for the recipe instructions. So what I would give her would be Pan Fried Chicken Glop.

    • 12xu

      I did the same too, last night saw their next game was on at 6:05 and on NBC Bay Area. Rushed home and couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t on. Checked the Giants website and saw that it’s tomorrow. WTF, these guys have off days in ST? LOL on your last sentence.

  • steve k

    just some blues, the whole blues, and nothin’ but the blues…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7UJnqgv2W8

  • 12xu

    James Cotton, the blues harmonica player, passed away today at the age of 81. Played with Muddy Waters and Howlin’ Wolf. I’m not well-versed in the blues so was not familiar with him. R.I.P. Here he is singing and playing harmonica:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCwtdvwVzho

  • 12xu

    Good article on Christian Arroyo and the Giants’ plan for him:
    Giants’ Christian Arroyo: next piece of homegrown infield?
    By John Shea Updated 4:37 pm, Thursday, March 16, 2017
    http://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/Giants-Christian-Arroyo-next-piece-of-11007806.php
    Looks like he’s ticketed for Sacramento this season. Anybody who goes to Rivercats games will have to give us scouting reports on him at third (Dr. Lefty)!

    • Matthew

      we gotta get PJ over to a game from Windsor. I know we would all be willing to help with his children and he would have a great time

    • Baldheadslikk1

      Nunez had better get a hit every at bat or Arroyo might be called up!

    • crawnik

      I’ve got a mini-season plan as well. Can do the same. I will probably see Lefty at some games and we can both analyze.

  • totalfan62

    We just watched Fences last night. Wow–great movie. Heart wrenching story, written by one of America’s great writers, superbly acted by Denzel Washington and Viola Davis.

  • Matthew

    It’s Friday. There is baseball in the air. My long lost baby brother and I reunited like Peaches and Herb. I only have 1 (long) meeting today. I’d call it a Sunshine Day

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeH3OdgGHso

    • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

      Let’s not get carried away. You’re still on probation. But I do dig what you have going on with this song. Makes me want to bang on my djembe. And yes, Gregory Polanco is one of my guys (conjures Darry Strawberry and Will Clark with his swing) – shit the whole Pirates outfield and uber prospect Austin Meadows are my guys.

      • Matthew

        Wait..younger brothers are the only ones eligible for probation. And, I’m hoping to get carried away all day! What a great time of year.

      • 610nm

        One of the things that came up 2 or 2.5 weeks ago was a silly story someone had published, in which they thought the Giants should trade for Cutch, and give up three players, something like Arroyo and Beede and maybe a reliever. A fairly stupid idea, but some of us thought you’d have a better idea. Given what you know about the Pirates and Giants org, the recent skills that both Mac and Parker have flashed in ST2017, but Pence not hitting a lot more than Span, what is a fair trade value for Cutch?

        • Foothills rye aka Lolium m.

          It may not seem fair for the team parting with the prospects, but a league superstar like Cutch would still command big pieces in spite of #’s last year. The Pirates did not trade him this winter because they were holding out for very shiny, big league ready pieces. That may still happen by the deadline. Arroyo, Beede, and a third piece would have potential to have swung such a deal – but we know the Giants aren’t going to part with either.

          • John Myhill

            Cutch just wasn’t that good last year and his fielding has been a mess for a while. I wouldn’t give much for him.

      • Baldheadslikk1

        Dont say the P word lol it takes me back to when i was 21 and headed in the wrong direction!

    • totalfan62

      Awesome. So glad to hear that. I shall try to follow suit on the Sunshine Day part. Enjoy, Brother.

    • RobDeer

      Absolutely. It’s supposed to be a balmy 84 down here in SoCal, aka, the world’s largest strip mall. Heading out to DeBell golf course in Burbank where I’m not going to slice. Or 3-putt. Or attempt a pitch and over finesse it and have the ball travel two feet. Yes, a fine Sunshine Day.

    • Baldheadslikk1

      Beautiful song ive been bumpin that guy named Wilson Pickett all damn week! His voice reeks of 1960s soul and it really gets me going in the AM!

  • Baldheadslikk1

    So sick and tired of looking at Spans pathetic performances my god! After last season i was hoping that he’d have a nice spring but wow!

    • Matthew

      Hey! It takes us old dudes a little longer to grease the joints…you can relate, Crews.

      • 610nm

        Span 2 for 24
        Ruggiano 3 for 23
        Gorkys 4 for 28
        Pence 4 for 26
        Parker 10 for 32
        Williamson 11 for 34

        The job in CF might be up for grabs, if this continues into the regular season. I’d like to see Pence rip a few, too.

    • Lunch_Box

      In recent years, I don’t know if the Giants have done well in assessing the FA market for position players that they’ve signed to multi-year contracts. Can’t say I know any off the top my head.

    • crawnik

      I hear ya. We still have him thru next year (2018), unless Evans wants to put Parker in CF and Mac in LF later on.

  • Skweezplay55

    Is there any Matt Cain news? Been away for a few days.