The Giants 1978 Uniforms: A Stylish Trio of Groovy Pullovers

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Greek Giant

This is the first in a series of posts about Giants aesthetics (visual analyses). I like the word “aesthetics” because it means so many things. It is a difficult word to pin down and it is a holdover from my other life as an art critic. Basically, aesthetics are the emotional, intellectual and moral relationships and concepts associated with art (in the expanded sense of the term). Regarding the Giants, I wanted to create a new series of posts about the Giants look over the years. This means I will be analyzing everything from the evolution of Giants jerseys and caps to the idiosyncratic design tendencies of their programs, tickets and logos.

screen-shot-2016-10-27-at-4-35-15-pmToday’s topic is the series of uniforms the Giants wore in 1978. Think Jack the Ripper Clark,  Johnny LeMaster and Larry Herndon. Willie McCovey was nearing the end of his career with the Giants that year. The 1970s were a fascinating time in baseball and in design. Uniforms were fabricated using heavyweight polyester. Note those awesome sideburns and large tri-colored trim on the sleeves.

It’s fascinating to see how cultural mores and design trends evolve over time according to the trends of a certain age. Remember all those horrible unforms with added black back in the 1990s? In the 1970s hip hop was not yet the big influencer in fashion. Sex appeal was more overt in athletics and pro sports, hence the tighter unis and more macho feel of the players. In the 1970s the All Star game was a serious and often contentious battle between the two leagues and players rarely socialized during games.

In 1978 the Giants used three jerseys (white, black, and orange) with the “Giants” script logo and uniform number on the front. The script logo made its debut in 1947 when the Giants were still in New York. The 1978 jerseys were of the pull-over variety. The orange version was worn with orange sanitary socks under the stirrups. In those days ballplayers wore their uniforms tightly to the body for a more aerodynamic approach to playing.

The team finished in third place, six games behind the Dodgers in the NL West. Their 89-73 record was promising and they came on strong in the second half. Jack Clark had the best season among Giants hitters with 25 homers and 98 RBIs, while Vida Blue went 18-10 with a 2.73 ERA. The starting pitching was strong: Bob Knepper, John Montefusco, Ed Halicki, Jim Barr and the aforementioned Blue. The complete stats are here.

nl_1978_sanfranciscoI remember these years well. They were the first years I started watching baseball every day. The Giants brand evolved in many ways over the past century, from red, white and blue, to blue and white and then to orange and black. It seems the Giants always had a classic, dignified and appealing brand over the years. Even in the louder 1970s, their jerseys somehow made sense and were a great modernization of their old-school look.

Of course, this past season, the Giants brought back the 1978 orange jersey with white pants for road games against the Rays and Red Sox. It turns out I attended both games. Seeing those uniforms worn by Posey, Panik, Crawford, Bum and the rest of our current day heroes caused me to reflect back on my childhood in nostalgic fashion. Incidentally, the Giants went 1-1 in those games.

  • dgg

    Breckeroni says: “The Giants will sign a no-doubt closer in the offseason.”

    • Anti-Lasorda

      I bet they have to trade. Maybe even Blach and Blackburn to get one.

      • dgg

        No trade will be necessary. Mark Melancon is a free agent.

        • Alvise Contarini

          I hope that Melancon won’t stir up melancholy sensations on the bleachers. Is he really good?

        • Anti-Lasorda

          And if decides to stay on the East Coast, then what?

          • Keep’n It Real

            I know this may be a broken record, but he was born on the West (CO) and went to college in the West (AZ). He didn’t choose Washington, the Pirates GM did for him. The Giants…with their SP…defense…Buster…organization…park…etc…would be a very good landing spot for any FA closer. The Giants also wanted Melancon during the trade deadline, so they’ve done their homework and I’m sure they’re “locked and loaded”.

            If they don’t land Melancon (or Jansen), I anticipate they’ll make a trade and/or take a flyer on Holland and/or designate an existing reliever as a closer…and go to church a lot to pray.

          • radicalpro

            Just read this snippet from the Nat’s GM on Melancon:

            The Nationals cannot extend a qualifying offer to Melancon, because he was acquired in-season, and so there would be no compensation for losing him this winter. Rizzo spoke highly of the 31-year-old closer and expressed a desire to re-sign him, but also pointed out how many experienced closers will be available this winter, with Aroldis Chapman and Kenley Jansen also due to become free agents.
            “He pitched terrific for us,” Rizzo said of Melancon. “More importantly, he fit beautifully into the clubhouse. He’s a plus-plus makeup guy. Great character and performed admirably for us. He’s got great stuff, and he’s a good quality pitcher. It’s a broad, deep reliever market this year, and Mark is one of the elite relievers in the marketplace.”
            The Nationals could decide not to invest significant money in a veteran closer and let one of their promising young relievers grow into the role, but Rizzo suggested experience and track record is preferred in this case.
            “In a perfect world, you’d always like to have a guy that’s done it in the most competitive situations, but that’s not always possible,” he said. “We’ve got a lot of options as far as guys with plus stuff and plus makeup, and it’s a deep relief market this year. So there’s different avenues to go and different routes that are attractive to us.”

          • radicalpro

            I’m hoping the Dodgers will be focused on Turner and Kenley, the Cubs and Yankees will bid up for Aroldis, and the Nats on Ramos and whoever else they have, leaving Melancon to be heavily pursued by the Giants.

          • Keep’n It Real

            Thanks for posting. It just confirms my strategy for the Giants.

            Go to Melancon’s house…heck wait on the sidewalk until they can go in…and tell him he is their #1 choice, period. None of this “many experienced closers will be available this winter” crap. Don’t waste your time on anyone else. Jansen is going back to the Dodgers (book it!) and let everyone else fight for Chapman. If Chapman and Cubs can’t get alignment (there’s stories about discontent), Melancon will be their next choice, so close that door asap.

          • Efrain

            so why weren’t they locked and loaded this past off season when they needed a closer? Stop assuming shit, you know what the result is.

          • Keep’n It Real

            So I’m going to give you a pass with your “don’t assume shit” comment and chalk it up to you having a late night beverage or you being in one of your “I need a hug” modes.

            Since you claim to be a Giants fan, then you would know that this franchise has a history of staying with guys too long. They did it with Cain…when they insanely thought he could be the #2 guy in the rotation…just because he was Matt Cain and had surgery make his elboe feel better. They (finally) realized their error and went after starting pitching this past off-season.

            They made a similar crazy decision with Casilla this season…even though they (and most of us) saw him leaking oil last season. Fortunately Casilla’s contract (and the contract of others no longer at their peak) expires after the World Series, so they can remedy the closer situation like they did with starting pitching last off-season. To provide further proof that they’ll be locked-and-loaded for a closer, they went hard after Melancon and thought they were going get him at the trade deadline.

            Hopefully your pillow helped to make you a better person this morning.

      • John Myhill

        Not Blach. No.

        • Anti-Lasorda

          Not even for Miller? Just for giggles…

          • John Myhill

            i have a very strong feeling that Miller is burning himself out, like Holland and Davis before him.

          • Anti-Lasorda

            There is that…

          • John Myhill

            Tends to happen with star relievers who carry their teams far in the playoffs by pitching a lot of innings. Judging from Miller’s performance in game 1 it may already be starting.

    • Matthew

      Matthewroni says ” I hope mankind discovers the existence of a no-doubt closer for the Giants to sign”

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Does he have the name of a Disciple?

      • dgg

        What do you think?

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          Aroldis? Kenley?

          Nope. Nope.

          Who’s behind door #3 again ? 🙂

          • dgg

            You’re too funny, Ryan.

  • “Frankie” Francisco Lindor – Little Child Running Wild

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJkjVfOcIxs

    • Matthew

      I’m very impressed by both Frankie and Baez.

      • Alvise Contarini

        Frankie Lane & Joan Baez ?

      • Baez was given the Maddon come to Jesus meeting last year. Two yrs ago he weighed about 225 and at the age of 21 in 2014 struck out 95 times in only 52 games for Skipper Rick Renteria.

        In 2015 Maddon only “let him play” 22 games and he K’d 24 times. The kid obvioulsy LEARNED the lesson from Joe and Dave Martinez plus his teammates.

        Lindor has been a phenom since day one.

        • Bapah

          Make up counts.

  • Bleacher Bob

    Breckeroni appreciates this change up Greek. I suppose Charlie Finley and the A’s get the credit or condemnation for the 70’s explosion of garishness. Gotta say, I love the Indians stirrups. Not so much the Cubs all blue tops.

    • crawnik

      What about the Indians all red uniforms? Wow.

      • Bleacher Bob

        Oh the indignity! My favorite player of all time remains Frank Robinson. To see him in that monstrosity was painful. Kuip talking about those days is great radio.

  • crawnik

    World Series alert: tomorrow marks the 4 year anniversary of the Giants sweep of the Tiggers in the 2012 WS.

    Saturday marks the 2 year anniversary of the Giants WS trilogy and when MadBum became THE man.

    Next Tuesday will be 6 years since the Giants gave us our first WS title in the SF era. Where has the time gone?

    • Alvise Contarini

      To the same place where all the flowers have gone.
      Edit: long time passing.

  • Bleacher Bob

    A Breckeroni primer:
    When I first started reading this blog, Breckeroni would post “First” on nearly every Baggs post. It was lame, but when he was called out, the regulars would defend him. He never posted anything else – just “First”. I was charmed by how loyal the now-TWG crowd were to this obvious lamer. He gave me the confidence to post pablum. TWG.

    • dgg

      The funniest first post ever, was Alex Pavlovic posting “First!” to his own blog. This was after a heated discussion about how lame it was to post “First” comments.

    • totalfan62

      Gotta tip your cap to old Breckeroni. He established a tradition that just about all of us bought. Even on long, old threads I’d go all the way back to see who “Breckeroni” was.

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    I may not have the authority, but I hereby declare Eric Ritz as Minister of Metrics on this blog.

    I appreciate the insights and the research and the way this guy handles the translation of the advanced metrics to what we see playing out on the field.

    Thank you, Eric, for all your comments on metrics related and all other topics here at EB/GE/TWG. Your presence is appreciated.

    Respectfully,

    FHR/SFB, Minister of MTV and Defense Minister of Objective Assessment of Prospects

    • Matthew

      Give that man a cracker!

      • Alvise Contarini
      • Scout Finch Baseball

        This may also be beyond the Scope of my power,

        but I’m going to spit the “clean mouth” comment of the day your way.

        • Matthew

          Ritz?! Are you implying something else?

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            Ha ha ! Easy, Peter 🙂 I got your Nabisco.

            boy was that a special comment by that guy. The Poli-dent get a grip comment of the day.
            Hope his evening turns around, cuz he’s having a rough one.

          • Matthew

            That Billy Hamilton response comment was clearly the PJRWNEPOTC

            I’m gonna let you decipher

    • Keep’n It Real

      Somebody is getting a bit too big for their britches. GG should ban you for awhile for being so presumptuous 🙂

    • Bleacher Bob

      I’m still laughing at your Punctuation Saves Lives proclamation with Michael Scott, Myrna and the oven from several posts ago.

      • Bleacher Bob

        Matthew • 3 days ago
        Don’t forget to baste, Merna.

        Scout Finch Baseball • 3 days ago
        Punctuation saves lives.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        It’s a School of Lefty post.

        The Panda eats, shoots, and leaves.

        Lefty may have written a book with this title. We do not know her “Gnome de Plume”

        • Bleacher Bob

          Lefty’s phrase, but your perfect timing. Who attends SOL?

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            Everyone here.

            btw – hope you are as well as can be and fortified for the winter ahead. Spring is sort of around the corner.

          • Bleacher Bob

            As usual, I’m SOL. Every Giants fan I see with a cap or tshirt gets a “4 months til spring training” from me and I get a smile.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            And for mom, may those A’s come around. Eventually the work on the farm system will payoff. Right now, a lot depends on what kind of Sonny Gray comes out to play, if that isn’t obvious enough.

          • Bleacher Bob

            She was into the A’s for the $. We bought season tix together and it bought her a new dishwasher. I lost interest when the iceplant was plowed under.

  • crawnik

    GG, thanks for bringing me back to the 70’s as well. I thought the black jerseys were pretty cool back then. When I first saw them, then the orange jerseys, I thought the Giants were out of their minds doing this. In other words, going against the tradition of just having home whites and road grays; which to this day is still a clean and classic look. The 70’s, and 80’s had some loud looking uniforms. The Pirates with their mult-combo of yellow and black (think Oregon football), the Astros rainbow tops, the White Sox with their softball looking unis with the shorts.

    Let’s not forget the light blue tint of most road uniforms worn by the likes of the Cubs, Phillies, Cards, Expos, Braves, Royals, Blue Jays, and I’m sure I’m missing some teams. You get the idea.

    • totalfan62

      Described as “robins egg blue”. Kinda cool at first, until *everyone* started wearing them.

  • Greek Giant – Somewhere the We Are Family Pirates Teams are smiling over the fashion statement (not) that they flashed during those Willie Stargell years with the Sans-a-belt Uni.

    * In the movie Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, a Jaymar/Sansabelt store can be seen in the background at the end of the parade scene.

    * In the first episode of Wings, Roy Biggins is accused of having fashion passing him by since he is still wearing Sansabelt pants.

    *In the Janet Evanovich book Plum Lucky, the narrator states “They were middle-aged thugs, dressed in bowling shirts and Sansabelt slacks.

    * In the Roseanne episode “The Fifties Show,” Becky tells her father Dan (played by John Goodman), “Thanks, daddy, you’re the best.” Roseanne replies, “That’s why he wears the Sansabelts in this family.”

    * In the fashion-parody film Zoolander, Derek Ben Stiller learns that male models throughout history have been brainwashed into committing many high-profile murders. He is told that the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy was due in part by JFK’s involvement in the Cuban trade embargo, which “halted the shipment of Cuban-manufactured Sansabelt slacks, a very popular item at the time.”

    -Wiki-

    • Bleacher Bob

      I never liked the Pirates box caps, but the earned stars, Ohio State style, is a trend I would like to see make a comeback in baseball.

      • totalfan62

        I *really* liked those Pirstes unis of this era. GG could do a nice post on their design alone. Very emblematic of the era he describes here.

        They had jerseys and pants in white (with pinstripes), black and gold. They would mix and match tops and bottoms in all three unis. You never knew what they would wear.

        I also loved the pillbox hats, and of course the stars, which were awarded by Pops Stargell. Great look, especially on all those African-American dudes. The long, sleek bodies worked well with the unis.

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    RT from Hank the Tank. Scorpions v. Rafter lineups tonight.

    Mr. Sarcastic is wondering, how many of My Guys are on these prospect rosters?

    One – Christin Stewart. A guy the Giants could have drafted, but went with Chris Shaw instead.

    https://twitter.com/Mike_Ferrin/status/791729930333675520

    • Matthew

      You are Baseball Mel Kiper, Cuz

      • Bleacher Bob

        You two need to get a room sometimes.

        • Matthew

          Octagon sometimes, too.

          • Bleacher Bob

            TWG

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            Awesome! I’m in!

            Invite that Sarcastic Wildcat too!

  • channelclemente

    I’d say Schwarber has defined his strike zone. Every pitch thrown to him so far in the post season.

    https://i.imgur.com/EdzMCVr.png

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kyle-schwarber-is-back-wreaking-havoc/

  • RobDeer

    Was the fact Ryder Jones played 1st base today already discussed?

    • DrLefty

      He’s played some for Richmond and San Jose before, too. He’s, um, not exactly a future Gold Glover at the hot corner. And then there’s Christian Arroyo to consider, too.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      LOL

    • The Oracle

      They did a roundtable about it on CNN.

    • Efrain

      Bob Costas is prepping a news special about it.

  • channelclemente

    Front door sinkers a possible trend of the future. The robot ump’s favorite.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/why-the-front-door-sinker-isnt-a-trend-yet/

  • Next month will be 12 years already (11/19/04) for the Malice at the Palace.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacers%E2%80%93Pistons_brawl
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnoFf3RnxaY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPaZ4zRb5G0

    Why do I think Efrain was in attendance? Bill Walton had the color broadcast.

  • Matthew
    • Darn crooked cell phone camera 🙂

    • Effie ran too many miles last weekend 🙂

      • Efrain

        that dude stole me identity! He still doesn’t know baseball like I do!

  • channelclemente
  • channelclemente
    • Bleacher Bob

      I don’t get it. So he lets a couple of singles turn into doubles in left. Bang a couple off the ivy and all is forgiven.

      • channelclemente

        LOL. Read it. Doc said no, and Epstein walks folks through the issue.

        • Bleacher Bob

          I still don’t buy it. If the Cubs fall behind, he PHs, and stays in LF early and maybe often.

          • channelclemente

            OK.

      • Efrain

        what’s not to buy? the Cubs were actually one of the top defensive teams in metrics in 2016. It;s part of the culture and strategy they want to represent.

        Therefore, inserting a guy who obviously can hit but may hurt the team defensively goes against the team thinking.

        So what’s so hard for you to grasp that?

  • Terry Francona – friends call him Tito (his pops name) is going to ride the Kluber train.
    by John Shea

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/shea/article/Cubs-tie-World-Series-Indians-hope-to-ride-Kluber-10416340.php

  • Back in the day in Orlando’s aka Cha Cha’s neighborhood in Cuba aka Coo-ba
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e6d58fb685d58746b26053a8d72042462eb2191aea39b5dfc27f6c830e9ed389.jpg

    • totalfan62

      Cepeda was born and raised in Puerto Rico. Nice cars!

    • Efrain

      I have no idea what you are posting about. You do realize Cepeda is Puerto Rican and not Cuabn right?

      Are you just bored?

  • Bleacher Bob

    Easy to imagine that Kris, Theo, and Addison will be popular baby names in Chicago hospitals next July.

    • Versus looking into the crib at Baby Joe or Baby David.

      I agree!

      • Bleacher Bob

        Corey, Francisco, and Coco maybe not as much.

      • Bleacher Bob

        Some poor kid is going to go through life named Waveland.

    • Matthew

      I really thought they would get a 2nd baseman named Clark….”Addison to Clark…GOT HIM!!!”

  • I got after Steph pretty good the other night about 3 am in the morning. Posted that I loved Lillard and like Steph. I heard from Pope Franny, he allows some of us to use Franny and he was truly pissed at me. Gave me several penances for my gaffe. Have to repost this -cough- Darling commercial of Steph (and Dell). Steph got all of Dell and Sonya Curry’s looks but IMO right now he favors his mom.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uHy5EOpkzI

  • The Oracle

    Now, this is a good political commercial:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjRwNUQDRU

    • totalfan62

      I saw that. You gotta love it.

    • SurfCity

      Yes, very funny. Saw that last week.

    • channelclemente

      I laughed out loud when I saw it. I self ID’ed. I used to live a mile or so from there.

      • DrLefty

        Mr. L had 10 weeks off this summer between leaving his old job and starting his new one. Longest time he’s had off and most time we’ve spent together since the first summer after we were married, 33 years ago. It was…interesting and took some adjusting to. A little foreshadowing of retirement.

    • dgg

      That’s hilarious! I laughed out loud, then watched it all over again. He goes on and on and on. There’s no escape for her.

  • totalfan62

    The 1978 Giants were a good team. After the miserable mid-70s, suddenly we had some talent and started winning. I knew it would be a good season when we were able to go toe-to-toe with the Dodgers, who were still the better team.

    McCovey, Madlock, LeMaster and Evans around the IF. Whitfield, Herndon and Jack Clark in the OF. Mike Ivie, Roger Metzger, Rob Andrews, Heity Cruz and Jim Dwyer off the bench. Very good rotation: Vida Blue, Bob Knepper, John Montefusco, Ed Halicki and Jim Barr. Gary Lavelle and Randy Moffitt split the closer role.

    Joe Altobelli had us in contention into September. We finished third, six games behind the Dodgers, 2 1/2 behind the Reds. Most memorable moment: Mike Ivie with a PH Grand Slam on Sunday 5/28, clinching a series win over the Dodgers.

    • earlytimes

      Ha. I was going to school and selling beer in the stands that weekend. Great moment. Needless to say, sales were brisk following that blast.

    • The Oracle

      56,103 were in attendance that day.

    • SurfCity

      Do a little dance, make a little love …

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVXjt20SWUQ

      • Matthew

        That sucked.

        • SurfCity

          I know. It was a ridiculous song. But it was from ’78 so I was compelled to share!

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Great post. Love the history lesson and the names.

    • Efrain

      i think i was there for that. thanks for the trip down memory lane. That was my favorite Giants team as a kid and still holds fond emotional ties for me.

      I grew up in the Mission and a group of kids would get out piggy banks and allowances and get bleacher seats. Sometimes if we had no money we would climb over the fence in the back of Candlestick where the only guard was a very old gentleman who eventually got to know us and didn’t bother chasing us since the bleachers were half empty most of the time.

    • Here is a poor video taken off the TV but nevertheless – Lon still went bonkers and gave us all goosebumps. I was in the upper deck behind home plate and as TF62 mentioned the Ivie-Salami was the bomb!

      http://www.beeyoutube.com/video/Rf2Kg1v1zx8

  • SurfCity

    Every day was Orange Friday in 1978?

  • DrLefty

    If you’re watching the Cal-SC game on ESPN, here’s a little insider’s guide on which Trojans to watch (if you’re a local, you probably already know about Cal):

    14 Sam Darnold, QB: This redshirt freshman took over four games ago from Max Browne and has turned the Trojans’ season around and maybe saved Clay Helton’s job.
    9 Juju Smith-Schuster, WR: Star receiver for the last couple years, could be a 1st rounder after this year
    25 Ronald Jones, RB: Exciting, explosive runner, sophomore who’s getting a lot more playing time since the first-string guy went down with a high ankle sprain. RoJo broke the USC freshman record for rushing yards last year.
    2 Adoree’ Jackson, CB, special teams kick returner, and occasional WR–maybe the biggest star on the team and another possible first-rounder. Also just missed making the Olympic team in the long jump.

    Very exciting, talented players, all four of them.

    • Matthew

      I did a quick check of the new Kings arena ( top level not drunk friendly) and watching my Sharks now….

      5 minutes of Kings reminded me….we’re gonna have issues covering Boogie with Zaza The Slow.

      • DrLefty

        Mr L was supposed to be in a luxury suite at the new arena tonight for work but had to go to a law conference in San Diego this week. I bought tix for when the Dubs are there in February. Looking forward to seeing the new digs.

        • Matthew

          It looks really , really nice.

          Wide concourse and great views.

          • DrLefty

            Yep, the locals are raving about the place. Local restaurants providing the concessions, too. Too bad the on-court product is so lacking.

        • Sgbssfg

          The Franchise Tax Board has a luxury suite?

  • PicoJim
    • Matthew

      I miss that campy show

      • totalfan62

        How about that! TWIB notes! It was about all we had, back in the day.

        • totalfan62

          That was fun! Lotsa great memories. Thank you, Pico Jim.

    • The Oracle

      The closing credits were the best.

  • The Oracle

    Adam Duvall a finalist for the Gold Glove? But I thought he only had warning track fielding?

    • DrLefty

      Oddly, Angel Pagan didn’t make the list. #rigged

      • 2holehitting

        Oddity, the Giants with not hitting in the Outfield has no GG candidates. You would expect that if they can not hit, then they should be great fielders.

        • HaakAway

          The Giants OF (Pence, Pagan, Span) were 10th in OPS among the NL OF’s. Adjuist that for WIllie Mays Field and they are just about dead middle/average. “they can not hit” really does not apply here.

          • 2holehitting

            I think the only thing that gets adjusted in ATT is the O. The P just runs down the drain ans the S…. has no impact.

    • John Myhill

      He was great in the field this year.

  • DrLefty

    Now, here’s a stunner: After an awful 2016 and ERA near 6, James Shields has decided NOT to opt out of his contract and instead will just keep collecting the rest of his $44 mil still owed from the White Sox. Good call, “Big Game James.”

    • 12xu

      I thought his nickname was “No Game James.”

  • Efrain

    It still freakin’ amazes me that Penn State is playing high end competitive football in this day and age.

    That F’n university and all their scum backers should have been put to rest years ago. Look at the SMU situation, 25 years after getting the death penalty they still have never fielded any sort of team that is relevant, and all they did was pay players.

    But no, here we have a University systematically covering the sexual abuse of young boys for almost three decades and the public and the NCAA turned a blind eye for the sake of big time NCAA money. Shame on all PSU supporters and for that matter any of the teams in the Big Ten for not standing up for what is right.

    Imagine is it had been young girls that had been sexually abused for almost 25 years, think Penn State would be playing big time football this Saturday? So because it was boys it’s ok to have an entire generation and culture of football fans sweep it under the rug?

    This is one of the biggest travesties in sports in all my years as a sports fan.

    F@$% Joe Paterno and the horse he rode into town in.

    • DrLefty

      If there’s any justice, Paterno is burning in hell right now.

      I have a dear friend who’s a Penn State alum and very loyal and loves the team and reveres Paterno’s memory. I can’t talk about how I really feel about it around her, but I agree with everything you said.

      To your point about young girls/women being abused, the Tennessee Gropers and Rapists have (at least) a 20-year history of this that goes back to Peyton Manning’s days and are currently the subject of a Title IX class action lawsuit, and their current coach is total scum who coddled probable rapists. But has the NCAA done anything about them? Nope, it’s the all-powerful SEC.

      It’s all disgusting.

      • totalfan62

        Whoa, easy on my Volunteers! What the heck is this about? I blocked Efrain so I don’t know what started this comment, but the “groper and rapist” stuff is way over the top.

        Furthermore, Lefty–our current coach is NOT “total scum”. He’s a good Christian man, an excellent coach, and a strong proponent of the Vols For Life program that helps the players transition into life after football.

        Also, the Peyton Manning story–more than 20 years ago when he was a freshman–was overblown and not entirely accurate, at least from what I’ve read. If you have some legitimate information driving this comment, I’d like to hear it.

        • 2holehitting

          Being a good Christian man does not mean they are devoid of groping or raping. Just ask the Catholic Church that allowed it to go on inside for generations. And those Christian retreats that the Church took the kids on had lots of fondling going on.

          • Anti-Lasorda

            Unfortunately, most likely it is still going on in less developed countries.

          • totalfan62

            That type of behavior would make them *not good* Christian men. Just saying that I stand behind our coach. The “total scum” comment earlier was Inaccurate and inflammatory, IMHO.

      • Anti-Lasorda

        Lefty, given your alma mater, you may want to look at the house your living in and set down the bag of rocks. SC has its own litany of bad behavior and coverups. My school as well, even before it joined the SEC and despite a vigorous code of conduct. Heck even kids at BYU behave bady.

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          Like she said, “It’s ALL disgusting”.

    • Anti-Lasorda

      What Penn State administrators did was shameful and undeniably horrid; but, I am still unsure aside from calling the police instead of his boss what Joe Paterno may have done wrong. I will say I am giving Joe, the benefit of the doubt of not knowing or seeing anything before McCreary came forward, and I think Lefty’s position is clearly based on the opposite point of view.

      Only Joe himself knew what he knew when, and if it was really when McCreary came forward and he fumbled the ball that one time (calling his boss instead of the authorities); I find it hard to damn him and his legacy not wanting to believe what his friend of 30+ years was capable of…

      Even Joe himself frankly admitted hefore he passed that he had missed warning signs but thats a lot different than knowing/observing wrong doing. And as the details came out, and the horror that happenned under his nose became apparrent, I am sure it drove him to the grave. If that isn’t punishment enough…..well….

      If you want vitriol, go after Curley and his cronies who magnified all those errors made by both McCreary and Paterno and only worried about the Universities legal interest instead of the victims. Those fools can be sent straight to hell….

  • John Myhill

    I’m having a hard time understanding why Francona chose to start Bauer in game 2 and Tomlin in game 3. Tomlin has been much better than Bauer recently. Is he planning on starting them both on 3 days’ rest in game 5 and 6? That seems like a really bad idea, and even if that is the plan, why not pitch them in the other order according to who’s pitched better so far? Was he conceding game 2 (because Miller was tired) and focusing their energies on winning game 3? That also seems questionable, because Arrieta certainly looked much more beatable than Hendricks before the Series. Given that Lester is going to be pitching game 5 against someone other than Kluber, game 5 is probably a lost cause, so it would make more sense to focus on winning game 6, especially because it would be against Arrieta, and the best chance to win game 6 is to pitch Tomlin on long rest, which means starting him in game 2. Something doesn’t add up here.

    • 2holehitting

      It is not like the Indians were shutout against Lester. They hit him and they scored runs on him. The idea is to score more runs than the other team. They must have confidence in doing that against Lester.

      • Anti-Lasorda

        Something to consider. Francona used to manage Lester. May feel like he has a book on him and knows how to get in his head with the running game.

        • 2holehitting

          All he needs to do is drop off a 6 pack and a deck of cards to get into Lesters head.

          • Anti-Lasorda

            Don’t forget the fried chicken…

      • John Myhill

        But who is supposed to pitch against Lester in Game 5? Apparently not Kluber, he’ll be in game 4. Bauer on 3 days’ rest vs. Lester? Hard to imagine they’d have confidence there. I guess maybe Salazar and the bullpen. And that still leaves open the question of who’s supposed to pitch game 6.

        • dgg

          Ryan Merritt?

    • Matthew

      Bauer in Wrigley would be a fireworks show? Tonight will be a very charged up team and crowd in Chicago. Bauer doesn’t seem emotionally ready for that…maybe that’s all it was

      • John Myhill

        So it’s better to pitch him in Wrigley in game 5 on 3 days’ rest? Seems questionable.

        • dgg

          If Francona takes my advice, Bauer won’t start another game in this World Series.

        • Matthew

          Well, what is your solution? Francona analyzed and made his. He wanted Tomlin for the Wrigley opener. He may well try to figure out a way to either pass up or mitigate Bauer in Game 5

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    I know you folks have already gotten your first dose of rain, but this was nice.

    Sweet delicious rain, sweet Calcutta rain (oh that’s another song),

    First rain, 3/4’s of an inch, soaking into the earth, this should germinate seed in the field,
    and get a little grass growing, ooooh ooooh, just a little grass…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvw–mNvPXQ

    • 2holehitting

      Was that from the unleded tour? I saw Zep in 76 in Chicago and Page and Plant at Shoreline. The first was a great rock concert, the second was a feel good show of great alternative songs from their classics.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        that looked to be some philharmonic event in the 90’s

        better edition’s from the tour in the 75-76 era. Jimmy is just riding the edge, playing his guts out from his addled body on that twin neck SG.

        • 2holehitting

          I think 94ish was the No Quarter tour. It had a much lighter mellower and cleaner cut of everything than the 76 tour. Clearly they aged and mellowed.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      ps- Love the Rays jersey in that “throwback game”.

      Would be perfect for a 35+ San Joaquin Valley Men’s Baseball team. Who’s in? Let’s hit the cages!

    • Matthew

      I watch this constantly, because Page

  • Anti-Lasorda

    Inresting discussion with Al Leiter and Mike & Mike talking about bullpen usage and the de-emphasis of starting pitch and potential devaluing of the closer.

    It worked for Bochy in ”14 but I dunno if Al payed closer attention to the ’16 Giants. Melancon could help prove the opposite in ’17. Get’er done Evs…

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      What’s your Plan Bizzle should Rizzle take care of Melancon in DC for 4 years?

      • Anti-Lasorda

        A new set of Rosary beads…

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    Nice RT by Baggs – Duvall surely had to work his butt off and he did look to be in great shape – on Duvall’s twitter feed, you’ll see a great diving play that makes him look like a guy that’s playing LF for some time, rather than a transition 3B. I would imagine that if Schwarber really worked hard on his OF defense, he would be less horrendous and possibly close to average in LF, keeping that bat in the NL for a bit.

    https://twitter.com/aduvall123/status/791841038033977344

    • Anti-Lasorda

      I am left to wonder if the sting of the trade didn’t motivate him and it didn’t matter what Evans did the Gs would never had seen THAT Duvall..

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        he wouldn’t have played LF, 3B, or 1B in SF. I think just being told that he was going to a shot in LF in Cincy motivated him to be as ready as possible and not embarrass himself. Still hard to believe his metrics were that good. Must have seen or heard the only two balls he misplayed all year!

        Eric Ritz made a great point about Duvall leading all LF’s in balls hit into his zone and highest % of plays made which allowed him to really accumulate those DRS fractions.

        • It helps that LF is probably the easiest position to play on the baseball field.

          • Scout Finch Baseball

            and that the competition is thin. Other than Marte, who is good LF? Yelich?

          • Angel Pagan of course!

        • Scout Finch Baseball

          a closer look at his Inside Edge Fielding scores reveals that he made 98.9% of routine plays, only 36.4% routine plays, 81.8% “even” plays, 0% unlikely plays, and 10% “remote plays”.

          Interesting breakdown there. He lost point on routine (60-90% likelihood), but got them back with a couple of dandies apparently.

  • I added some team stats and links for the 1978 season. Refresh your browsers to view them. That 1978 team was pretty good.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      loved tf62’s post.

      Felt like I was there instead of crapping in my huggies.

      • The late 70’s era was definitely a golden age of baseball. Great players, great teams across MLB and very exciting World Series and All Star games.

  • BALDHEADSLIKK

    i remember listening to the Ivie salami in 78, i was 14 and already had that addiction to my Gs.

    • Skweezplay55

      My oider brother had a clock/radio in his room, and I went in for some reason just as Ivie hit it.

  • BALDHEADSLIKK

    Madlock
    Herndon
    Whitfield
    Blue

    The Gs had some brothers on that squad and there is probably more .

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      That always surprises me that Madlock is a former Giant. Great hitter.

    • earlytimes

      The great Vic Harris

  • dgg

    I’m not sure where cc is this morning, but since we both lived in Houston back in the day, I’m sure he would appreciate this from Texas Monthly:

    “Texans turned out in droves for the first day of early voting, shattering records in a number of counties and far surpassing the day-one turnout in 2012. In Harris County, 67,471 came out to the polls on Monday, absolutely destroying 2012’s first-day record of 47,093. And 61,543 additional people had mailed in their ballots as of Monday, bringing the first day of early voting’s total to a whopping 129,014 in the most populated county in the state, according to the Houston Chronicle…

    So what drew so many Texas voters to the polls? Was it a strong sense of civic duty and pride in American democracy? An unwavering hope for the future? Um, not quite. “We just want to get it over with,” one voter in Harris County told the Chronicle while he stood in line to cast his ballot. “We will be glad when this whole thing is over. It’s just been a real zoo. In my lifetime, it’s probably the worst election ever.”

    • winebaroness27

      Longest…worst election…Ever….

      • dgg

        It’s even funnier if you’ve ever lived in Houston/Harris County.

        • Anti-Lasorda

          Does Brazos county count? I’ve spent time in Harris county, just never lived there.

          • dgg

            College Station. I’ve lived there too. Of course Brazos County counts. If you lived anywhere in Texas, you know about politics and elections in Texas.

          • Anti-Lasorda

            As crooked as a tornado through a trailer park….

          • Anti-Lasorda

            Aggie?

          • dgg

            Not me. My dad.

          • totalfan62

            Gig ’em!

          • Anti-Lasorda

            Give him a Gig’em from the Fightin’ Texas Aggie Class of 1993 for me.
            WHOOP!

          • channelclemente

            Howdy!

          • Anti-Lasorda

            HOWDY!

          • channelclemente

            My physics teacher in high school was an Aggie. He was a semester away from a degree in nuclear engineering, and frustrated teaching goofi like us. We made 2-3 science club field trips to A&M so he wouldn’t loose the vibe.

          • channelclemente

            Texas A&M gave the the state Brown and Root (aka Root and Scoot) which morphed into Halliburton. There is a reason the student union at A&M is/was known as the ‘rosey palm’ historically on what was an all male campus until the 1960s.

        • Alvise Contarini

          What is special in this Harris County?

          • dgg

            This story about Houston from July 2013 Smithsonian illuminates the history. I lived in Houston back in the 1970s.

            http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/what-makes-houston-the-next-great-american-city-4870584/?no-ist=&page=1

          • Alvise Contarini

            Very interesting article. Thank you Doc.

          • channelclemente

            Some would say that the modern world you live in was crafted from Suite 8-F of the Lamar Hotel in Houston. The men of the US energy industry met there in the 1930-60s and literally made US foreign policy insofar as the energy industry was concerned. Houston, itself, is an urban metastasis.

          • Bapah

            …and the weirdest zoning practices I’ve EVER seen in a modern metropolis (excluding some cities in Europe dating back to pre-Renaissance times)

          • channelclemente

            In Houston…zoning, what zoning? You live in West U or one of the Villages if you don’t want a hog farm next to your back yard.

          • Bapah

            Or a high-rise.

    • POTD

      • dgg

        But it has nothing to do with baseball!

        • Some things are more important than baseball…

          • dgg

            Yet another reason why it’s excellent that you’re at the helm of this community blog, GG. Your overall balanced perspective.

          • Alvise Contarini

            Only some? I’d dare to say “a lot of”. But, anyway, very few funnier than the hit and run game. Oh well !

          • Only some!

          • Matthew

            Uh oh, Greek…you just shook the foundation of my life

          • Anti-Lasorda

            Sex, Beer, Rock ‘n’ Roll, Baseball…?

    • Keep’n It Real

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/95908263e8df3134d2b5029958b26b00a61ed28218762f229534ffbdaf5171cd.jpg

      I hope you don’t mind me sharing this. Your post…and GG’s “some things are more important than baseball” response made me feel comfortable posting this.

      Background: My friends and relatives on Facebook have been driving me crazy with all the Pro-Hillary and Pro-Trump crap that they’ve been posting. People that I would swear had good heads on their shoulders…making insane comments about how good each candidate is (without acknowledging the many flaws in both). Anyway…I had enough, so I posted this soap box image and tried to send a message out that would hopefully make people take a step back and look in the mirror a little. Trust me…I am not making a case for either candidate.

      ===============================================

      (Standing on top of one of these)

      I was listening to the radio this morning and an Allman Brother Song (Revival) came on with the following chorus:

      “People can you feel it…love is every-where.”

      Call me corny, but I am a believer of things happening for a reason…and this song made me realize that there’s probably less love in this country than any time I can recall in my 58 years of life.
      We have a Presidential election that has provided us with the worst options that many can recall and these candidates have brought dislike (perhaps hatred) out in “good people” that typically don’t conduct their lives in this manner. Presidential elections can be a passionate thing, but at the end of the day…they shouldn’t be defining us as people and how we are looked upon by our friends and loved ones.

      A bit of perspective…a co-worker from another country and I were exchanging questions that both of us had about each other’s home country. His question to me was, “What do they mean by making America great again?” A very interesting question that would probably have many different responses, but his response to me was…”Don’t Americans realize how great they already have it? They should go to other countries and see how bad it is outside of the US.”

      “People can you feel it…love is every-where.”

      I admire my kids and their generation, because they have blinders on that many of us “adults” could only wish for. During their years of school and now work…they have/had friends that are/were Gay, Transgender, Muslim, Chinese, Indian, Mexican, Israeli, and others…and they didn’t give a shit…and act as normal as many of us did growing up in environments with just a sliver of diversity. Do you find yourself hugging your friends during greeting/farewells in a manner your parents never did? News flash…that came from your kids and their generation.

      How many times have you worked with someone on an International level…got pissed off because of something they did…formed an opinion about them…and then met them in person? I’m willing to bet that your feelings about that person (more times than not) changed and any negativity towards them was a distant memory…because you got to know them as a person. They have many of the same family challenges you do *and* chances are their Government is infinitely more screwed up than anything we have going on here.

      “People can you feel it…love is every-where.”

      I recently went to a Baptism at a non-Catholic Church. Just like the Catholic Church, there was a moment in the service where people were expected to introduce each other to those around them. Complete strangers in most cases…different upbringings, different stories, different problems, different heritages…shaking hands…exchanging names…exchanging smiles. Regardless of what you think about the Star Spangled Banner…how nice would it be if we adopted this behavior at ball games, City Council Meetings, and other “gatherings” where you aren’t sitting next to the same people all the time?

      This behavior also made me think…if someone came in to this same church wearing a turban or looking like they “might” have crossed into the US illegally…wouldn’t they be welcomed with open arms and treated like I was? I would say “YES”…so why are we allowing talking heads to alter our views/behaviors towards people that would be welcomed in our own churches?

      “People can you feel it…love is every-where.”

      I am far from perfect. My family knows my hangups and I’m sure (at times) they wonder how I came from the same gene pool. This said, they know I am aware of my hangups and I continuously work on them. I can say with complete honesty that even within the last 5 years, I am far more progressive in some hangup “areas” that I would have ever imagined. Why? Because I try to keep an open mind (no matter how hard it might be) and I learn by talking to people…and understanding their views on areas where I have hangups.

      About 3 months ago or so…I went into a Safeway and noticed a family where the wife was dressed in all black…with her face completely covered and only her eyes in view. My anger towards her husband started growing and I found myself wanting to say something to him; even though I didn’t even know these people. Why? Because my only exposure to this was via CNN and women were typically dressed this way when discussing oppression of women in the Middle East. I chose instead to smile at them and become more educated about this type of attire. I later found out (from a female Berkeley grad who travels the Middle East), that many times this is a choice of attire by women…and when they go inside the house…they dress and have fun just like you’d see here in the US.

      “People can you feel it…love is every-where.”

      If you are a Facebook “friend” of mine, you have passed a criteria I use for this site…”Would I welcome this person in my house?” Just like most anyone, my house is where my family lives…and I would protect that with all that I have…so I wouldn’t let just anyone walk inside of it. My point here is all my Facebook “friends” are good people in my mind and my heart. I may not agree with your thoughts on both Presidential candidates, but I know that if I put all of you in the same room…with no political talk whatsoever…you would all come away thinking “what a bunch of wonderful people” and treat each other warmly like the Church experience previously mentioned.

      We have 2 more weeks before this election is behind us. You may not like the results, but the people will have spoken. We need to embrace that our country is changing and the people coming here are doing so for the same reasons our relatives did many years ago…to find a better life for their families. Improvements are needed, but it’s up to our elected officials to get that done. It’s up to every one of us to become better people by taking the time to acknowledge our own hangups, improving upon them, and most of all…treating people like people; not someone that is portrayed on our TV networks. It make take a while to make these improvements, but in the mean time…a smile can go a long way in any situation where more understanding is needed. As my corny side would say…smiles are free 🙂

      Wouldn’t it nice if we could listen to the Allman Brother’s chorus and it was actually true?

      “People can you feel it…love is every-where.”

      (putting my soap box away)

      • Matthew

        That’s as REAL as anyone can keep it….

      • Noce

        Below is an excerpt from my FB post on July 20th. I was tired of the election then. So I wrote this:

        “I enjoy knowing what is happening in lives of ……………………………… well you get the point. The other reasons I’m on FB is the music and some pages relating to working out. I thank all of you for keeping me up to date on your lives.

        What I am tired of is the negative political posts. I don’t care if you are pro or con on Hillary, Trump and anyone else. But simply blasting away at the other side without giving me reason to vote for your candidate indicates a problem.

        Below is small sample in my feed this morning: A picture of the same normal skull with the last one being a Neanderthal claim those where the Trump supporters. For me that is the same as bigotry. An article calling a Dems sheep by James Carville a long time Democrat strategist (it might be falsified). There was a video of Black American protesting and calling for the killing of police and the bikers who were going to stop them. Is there anyone in my friends list that would agree with either side of this, I don’t think so. There was blasts of Hilary, President Obama pressing the negative side only. Not once did I read why I should vote for someone today or maybe in the last month.

        We have to stop calling each other out and start a dialog of what we want for our future and that of our children. I might be too naïve to think this could happen on FB.”

        Ok a little PollyAnna on the last paragraph. I had the most comments of any post. The funny part was the friends who were and kept posting this stuff agreed with me.

        • channelclemente

          You just created another TV series, Fringe. Except, it’s taken, I guess. But your point is well taken. The conversation least likely to draw an audience is a rational, calm one.

      • Scout Finch Baseball

        I have previously annointed KIR as Minister of Finance and Payroll, but now, with the authority bestowed upon me by the state of being, I declare KIR the Minister of Love.

      • steve k

        we can learn from the young. they can learn from us. as a matter of fact, everyone can learn from everyone else. all it takes is an open mind. for some reason, as people age, their mind seems to slowly close, as well. most of them do, anyway. since a lot of us have gone from youngsters to oldsters (you know who you are), it’s on us to be patient, and understanding of things not familiar, and to open the eyes of our contemporaries.

        as far as smiling goes, you’re preaching to the choir. i always say that there is nothing as disarming as a smile. try being angry at someone that hits you with a nice smile. it’s hard to do. i was in some form of sales most of my life. nothing opens doors, and gets people to like you, more than a nice smile.

        you’re more than just a poet KIR nicely done, sir. you’re welcome in my home any time…

        • Keep’n It Real

          Thanks Steve.

    • channelclemente

      I’d guess two things. Fear of Trump winning, and fear of the GOP losing control of the state. The hilarious thing is the efforts of state officials to cripple Democratic turnout has turned out to impact elderly GOP voters the most. Man is that constituency howling at the long lines and ID requirements.

      PS:, a state that can live through Dolph Briscoe as governor, can withstand anything. 😉

      • dgg

        Wouldn’t most Seniors vote absentee? When the city moved our voting place from the school two blocks away, we switched to voting absentee. It was an easy walk to the school even on icy sidewalks (with my strap-on cleats) but I wasn’t going to drive 2 miles on icy roads to vote.

        • channelclemente

          Most of the elderly people I know who are still alive there take going to the polls as a duty, a community statement. They will vote early at a more convenient time, but being at the polls is a chance to reiterate their civic commitment, and have coffee afterwards. There is a caveat though, most of the people I know there are from native Texan families who have roots going back in Texas for 100+ years. My family first moved there in 1830 or so. We were, LOL, immigrants to Mexico, LOL.

        • 2holehitting

          Early voting is great for those areas where they place 1 machine to serve millions in trying to discourage voters on election day. Think Cuyahoga or Broward

          • dgg

            I’ve never been to a voting place where this is only one machine.

  • dgg

    I never thought Schwarber would be medically cleared to play in the field. I read somewhere that his brace is quite tight to prevent rotation but any collision or significant twisting or lateral movement would be very problematic for his long-term recovery. And he’s still in recovery! If the Cubs had ignored his doctor’s recommendation, I wonder what the doctor would have done.

    This case medically illustrates the problem with the DH: The individual who is the DH cannot play real baseball.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      I love gross oversimplifications for dramatic effect!

      😃

      • dgg

        The DH says that a ballplayer without a glove, who can’t field, is still a ballplayer. That’s not oversimplification. That’s messed up.

        • Bapah

          The only oversimplification is how it impacts any strategy involved in a pitching change.

          • Matthew

            The return!!!!

            I swear, you need to stop by more often

          • channelclemente

            Slacker, what do you have, a life or something!

        • 2holehitting

          That is like saying a pitcher than can not bat is a ball player. The AL is just messed up.

    • channelclemente

      LOL, maybe that’s what 1B was created for.

      • Bapah

        Don’t tell me you’re one of those idiots that feel 1B is an easy position to play. EVERY position is relatively easy to play much of the time. It’s on tough plays and in tight games that every position becomes harder. Other than the pitcher and catcher, the 1st baseman “touches the ball” more than any other player. Every infielder makes the occasional bad throw (some many more times than others) and a good 1B makes many of those bad ones disappear. Right handed first basemen, mostly, can’t make good DPs on balls hit to them. I thought most everyone here understood how the game is played.

        • channelclemente

          It is an easier position. That’s why its weighted less statistically. That doesn’t preclude good athletes from playing there, but it’s hard to make a case for it being a defensive Mecca in the aggregate.

          • Bapah

            I think the difference shows up on close plays. How often do close plays go in the favor of teams with good 1Bs?

          • channelclemente

            The key point is ‘in the aggregate’. You can hide a lot of deficiencies at 1B, but of course having a good 1B is a net positive.

        • 2holehitting

          Miller and Krukow claimed that playing first was a day off for Buster. A day of rest …..

          • Bapah

            ANY position is a day of rest compared to catching.

  • Bapah

    Fans of amphibians, alliteration and the combination thereof are sure to love the Florida State League’s newest team.

    This will soon be my newest cap in my MiLB hat collection.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/55f5371cbf3f2256bfda99a611bab9fc247afa06db01437ff6769087758b0a7b.jpg

    • Anti-Lasorda

      Get that ridiculous Calzone off your avatar!!!!

    • Anti-Lasorda

      Oh that is so much better…..

      And to think I first thought it was supporting breast cancer research.

      • Bapah

        It was just for you. …and they’re edible.

        • Anti-Lasorda

          Yeah well mine’s sold over the counter at grocery stores!!!

    • LMAO at your avatar. Humm Baby….Ooooh Baby…. Yummie in my Tummy

  • channelclemente

    The Cubbie Bear across from Wrigley is charging a $100.00 cover to watch the Cubs play on a big screen TV. I’m not sure how many have ever stopped in there, but is the definition of a Northside, grimy dive. Only, IMO, bottled beer is safe to drink because the cleanest mug in the place is usually passed out on the foot rail at the bar.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/cubs/2016/10/27/world-series-chicago-cubs-cleveland-indians-bars-cover-charges-wrigley-field-wrigleyville/92849328/

  • Efrain dropped by my house last night to give me a verbal wedgie and noogie regarding me putting ChaCha Cepeda in Coo-ba rather than the beautiful PR. Must have confused my Cepeda’s with my Cespedes and my Minnie Minoso’s. Effie to me: (“What are you bored [or dumb] Cepeda’s from the PR”) 🙂

    Sorry Effie – I will send you some new running inserts for Christmas. Total Fan 62 rang me up also about the same gaffe, but as usual TotalFan the Forever Total Giant Fan, did it in a much more christian fashion. (“Hey CU, Cha Cha is from Puerto Rico”)

    By the way the PR is full of exitement knowing the WBC is returning.
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/jenkins/article/A-baseball-dream-blossoms-in-Puerto-Rico-10418429.php

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Did you get your favorite Journey song?

      • Skip says thank you for sending that. “I needed that” !!

  • Has Our Oracle been by to pile on and Orate about the Jose Fernandez details?

    https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/791397747995906048

    • The Oracle

      Was there ever a doubt? From the stories, it appears his friends went with him that night to try to prevent him from doing something stupid…because they knew he was drunk. They were trying to protect him from himself. In the process, they lost their lives, and it didn’t happen simply because Fernandez was drunk. It happened because he was drunk AND driving like a maniac. But, because the guy was great at baseball, his death is “tragic,” and the friends that he killed are merely an afterthought.

      • All I am saying is your apparent law enforcement opinion should never detract from those feeling the loss of a son, friend, husband or father. You may think there was willful intent because they were drinking but many of us acted the same way at his age.

        “One of the sanest, surest, and most generous joys of life comes from being happy over the good fortune of others.”
        Archibald Rutledge – 1883-1973, Poet

        • The Oracle

          If a drunk driver who wasn’t a famous athlete killed two other people, the first thought in the minds of most people wouldn’t be how sad it was for the drunk driver. Hero worship of athletes can get a little sickening.

          • This is true but how long has that hero worshiping been going on in our society?

  • To honor TF62’s featured comment above – here is Lon going NUTS – although this video is taken OFF of a TV

    http://www.beeyoutube.com/video/Rf2Kg1v1zx8

  • dgg

    Ken Rosenthal wrote this before the phone conference between the Chicago Cubs and Schwarber’s doctors: “The next plot twist — “Will Schwarbs be in left field?” — likely will not be a twist at all. He will be in left.”

    Ken seemed to be basing his flat-out assertion on Theo Epstein’s assessment that Schwarber was “healed from surgery.” Theo Epstein: “[Kyle’s] got tremendous strength and flexibility in the knee, as demonstrated by what he’s done out there.”

    Just a couple of guys pretending to be doctors.

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      Must have stayed at the Holiday Inn Express.

      Listening to the pre-game the other day, Chris Archer, Rays ace, was in the booth talking about Schwarber. He said they both train at the same offseason facility and that he would see Schwarber last winter and that he was surprisingly athletic – good quickness and surprising hops.

  • Noce

    Robin Williams on golf. My feelings exactly. Warning lots of foul language.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcnFbCCgTo4

    • Scout Finch Baseball

      How about Dorf on golf? Perhaps more PG-13?

      • Noce

        Way more PG from a different era. TIm Conway was one of my favorites growing up. McHale’s Navy and Carol Burnett show. He would be the only one not cracking up at his lines in the skits unlike Harvey, “Thats Hedley” Korman.

        • steve k

          those guys were so funny. ever watch the benny hill show? me and my dad would laugh our butts off. good memories.

          • Noce

            My nephew was a Monty Python fan so to add to his collection of English humor I got him a large set of Benny Hill, which I think he would give back. He did not get it. I did, loved all the raunchy humor.

    • Same Shirt, different topics
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8IFgEO6Np4

  • Scout Finch Baseball

    The plan is to work work work after my turbo lunch, not barf, finish what I have planned to finish, then swing by the store for some tasty beverage, and then by KFC for some take-home eats, and then home for World Series.

    Here’s to executing plans. Cheers.

    • Bapah

      Here’s to a ridiculously elaborate waste of time and misplaced priorities.

      • There are many species that make up the flock.

    • Matthew

      “Barf” and “KFC” are a perfect marriage

  • channelclemente

    The incremental events that influence the length of baseball games. The Dodger’s bullpen is among, if not the worst offender.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/baseballs-biggest-games-are-taking-forever/