by
Greek Giant
I will never forget where I was on October 17, 1989 when the Loma Prieta earthquake struck and halted the World Series in mid-stream. I had just moved back to Montreal from South Florida and I was getting settled into my new apartment near McGill University, about to turn Game 3 of the World Series on. There was a commercial just as my TV turned on then a strange look on Al Michaels’s face. I recall vividly that something bad must have happened. I tuned in hoping to watch Will Clark and the boys take game 3 and get back into the Series.
Instead were were riveted to the screen by the surreal sounds and sights of the the game being cancelled and San Francisco in the midst of a terrible crisis that cost many lives and billions of dollars in damage. It was one of the most moments when a baseball gets shoved aside by life’s priorities. Suddenly I was no longer thinking about defeating Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco and Tony LaRussa’s band of Bashers.
The Official ABC Broadcast
Unfortunately for the Giants, the Series was postponed for ten days. They lost any edge they might have had returning the Series to Candlestick. The world and the city had other priorities and the A’s swept after starting Bob Welch and Dave Stewart again to finish off our baseball heroes.
We’re all bound to slide into the ocean sooner or later.
The fine gentleman from California has cast his vote for “Later”
Give me a rescue boat with Carla Gugino and/or Alexandra Daddario in it…and I’m good 😉
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There is no one to save us from either the Cubs or the Dodgers, both obnoxious teams with obnoxious fans. I’m finding it surprising complicated to root for Cleveland after what happened to GSW, but I prefer them over Toronto. Still can’t believe the stupid bullpen couldn’t get anyone out. I’ll never know if Cueto had enough to win a game 7 in Chicago. Stinks.
You know, you hit the nail on the head. I’ll always wonder what Cueto could have accomplished qith another shot at the Cubs. From what I read in Chicago, they really never wanted to see Cueto again.
I was reading some comments in other areas the following day and Cubs fans were pretty much praising the amount of respect they had for the Giants and the organization. I think they knew a bullet was dodged by not having Game #5.
The Cubs don’t win Game 5…… and the Gs would have gone 7 with the Tribe.
I don’t know what happens then…..
Oh well. That universe doesn’t exist.
My guess is the Cubs win the Series, and looking back on it, they feel the Giants were the true hurdle. I felt that way about getting past STL, to face only the chubby Tigers in 2012.
I remember thinking that about Philadelphia in 2010. I was anxious as hell throughout the whole Phillies series (and sheesh looking back over those 6 games, they barely outscored SF 20-19, so my memories of it being constant stomach aches are accurate), and once they beat PHI I felt a large weight lifted off my shoulders. I wasn’t even worried about Texas.
Party at Napoli’s!
Wait ’til next year.
Being a lifelong Giants Fan you are fully qualified for that assignment.
Cleveland has not won since 1948 so they get some sympathy votes.
Make a friend in Cleveland; that is helping me root for them.
Last game 22 year old…. I mean TWENTY TWO – yr old – switch-hitting Francisco Lindor did some great hitting. Had a plan, hunted the pitch he was looking for and sat on the change-up & didn’t miss it. Did not miss it.
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I remember Jose waltzing his Gal-Bride off the field
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What did she charge an hour?
I think both testicles
still had all his fingers…
My buddy and I were sitting in our car and Brett Butler walked his family to their car in front of us, carrying a box of stuff…looked shocked.
I literally ran into George Zimmer…within inches, at least.
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Kelly Downs
Winner….We shall send coupons for the next Pancake Breakfast in downtown Turlock. Peter “J” will be the Grand Marshall of the event.
Perfect…I prefer Latif’s Diner.
Will you order Swedish Thins or the waffle?
Waffle, Baby
Kelly Downs. I like this one better (it’s on my office wall).
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I see what you did there….
Do you guarantee it?
Yep.
George Zimmer was at the earthquake game? That’s awesome. I’ve heard that underneath his brash-talking image, he’s really a nice guy.
Ricky be like …… what the H……
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Esther
Bingo it was Esther
Who is to the left of Big Mac ?
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Storm Davis
Thank you KIR
Whoa, nice mullet.
Invest, Invest, Invest and re-invest in Starting Pitching and see if Bum wishes to close in a few seasons.. @ 33
Umpiring Records
ALL-STAR GAME
Most Appearances
7, by two umpires, Al Barlick and William Summers
Most Consecutive Appearances – 2, accomplished many times, last by Doug Harvey (1963-64)
WORLD SERIES
Most Appearances
18, Bill Klem
Most Games
108, Bill Klem
Most Consecutive Appearances – 5, Bill Klem (1911-15)
LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
Most Appearances
NL – 10, Bruce Froemming
AL – 7, by two umpires, Larry Barnett and Jim Evans
Most Games
NL – 52, Bruce Froemming
AL – 36, Larry Barnett
DIVISION SERIES
Most Appearances
NL – 6, Bruce Froemming
AL – 4, by three umpires, Joe Brinkman, Mike Reilly and Rocky Roe
Most Games
NL – 24, Bruce Froemming
AL – 18, Rocky Roe
MISCELLANEOUS
Longest Game by Plate Umpire by Time
8 hours, 6 minutes, Jim Evans (May 8-9, 1984, Milwaukee at Chicago)
Most Years Umpired – 37, Bill Klem (1905-41)
Most Future Appearances … HAL
The Giants will not win the bidding for this guy;
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Melancon brings home the pennant and the WS. Let the Yankees pay for the Japanese guy.
I’ve actually been really intrigued by him.
They say he’s a once in a generation talent in Japan, and he’d be a great asset to have in the National League because he can throw and hit well.
Hit 102 MPH on the radar gun this season, hit 22 Home Runs, has OPS over 1.000, won 10 games with low 2.00 ERA.
And he’s still 21.
Definitely a unique talent. Not sure how it pans out here but don’t really see those numbers dipping too much.
You are correct.
TO really went out on a limb right there
Buck Helm became a cult figure
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-11-20/news/mn-65_1_respiratory-failure
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Since Kelly and Hayes have been fired or relocated to the Gotham Club – there is rumors rampant that Amy G is the new base running coach. Bochy and Baer want Amy but the Investors prefer Brett Butler or Omar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4VKhKU1gTQ
I’m in for Omar, unless Amy G plans on standing nekkid on 2B to welcome the base runners.
She is asking her Hubbs right now if she can handle the job as you described. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1134079c06dc07cdea196b2ce502b9313a9d28707561fe07d6511ceb924c3cc8.jpg
Is he sitting in a booster chair?
Yes and PG is a good dude,even if he does have to cover Da Raida’s
Maybe Amy G should coach 3rd. She can provide an incentive for Giants to go from first to third on a single by flashing her — when they successfully make it.
I am good with Brett Butler. I like it
Daily bunting clinics with coach “Buntler”.
I want a base stealer coaching first base. I want a guy with great judgment on 3rd base…judgment including the right time, right baserunners, and right outfielders in which to take chances with
No beer guts in the first base box. What’s Willie McGee up to these days?
Playing E.T. Off Broadway
Whoa. You’re bad.
I agree, the 1st base coach shouldn’t have a boiler. Wasn’t Chili Davis a pretty good base-stealer? Currently the hitting coach for the Red Sox (before that, with the A’s).
Agree with you at third base
But even Robbie Thompson joked in 2000-2001 that he was the “get back coach”. I mean a ball player has to lead off first base with athletic instincts + athletic ability. If a player is not a base stealing threat by the time he gets to the Show, he is not going to learn overnight. I know you know this but for others that grass U cutout is there for great baserunners to use. If their left foot is on the tip of the grass cutout closest to second base – that is a 14 ft lead. If their right foot is on the same cut out – that is a 12 foot lead. Anywhere 11 feet and in – a player is hosed at second. Spring training stop watch times are taken down and then if a Pitcher is 1.0 to 1.4 and the catcher is 1.98-2.0 – the runner has to run 75 feet in a quicker time.
Lopes proves that a guy with base stealing knowledge can make a difference, even if it’s not during games as much as in practice…I know Roberto was that guy. The change didn’t serve him or the team well, in my opinion
Great catch. He was miscast at third. His niche was first base. Hayes had never ever wandered that far from the dugout in his lifetime – bad match. Billy also had a great niche as the so-called bull-pen catcher. The FO or whomever has to wear that big time.
I want someone to coach base stealing in the organization. Too many fast runners have no value as a base stealer
Ricky Henderson or Barry Bonds as first base coach? Then steal Mike Gallego from the Angels I believe – he was one of the best in successfully and aggressively sending runners for the extra base, until a blown decision or two made him the scapegoat.
You Make The Call
With two out, the batter swings and misses at a pitch in the dirt. The pitch bounces off the catcher into the air, and the batter’s bat strikes the ball, causing it to roll into foul territory. What’s the proper ruling?
The options are:
A. Foul ball.
B. Batter is out for interference.
C. Strike three; the ball is dead.
D. The ball is alive and in play, and batter-runner must be thrown out at 1st base, the same as on any other dropped third strike with two out.
I choose D
C ….
C?
Correct
It can’t be strike three if the catcher dropped it. He would have to throw him out.
see above
B. If the ball rolled into the bat, then it would be in play. Since the bat struck the ball, it’s interference.
Almost
Isnt there a lot of information missing? Count? Runners? Bat is being held or on the ground (implied it’s being held).
………
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/umpires/feature.jsp?feature=call5
The correct answer is “C”: The batter is out, and the ball is dead.
The last paragraph of the Casebook Notes to rule 6.06(c) precisely cover this play. (Casebook Notes are shown in italic print in the Official Rules and carry the same weight as the Official Rules.)
There were two strikes on the batter in this play, and that is why the batter took off for first base after striking out.
“6.06 A batter is out for illegal action when … (c) If a batter strikes at a ball and misses and swings so hard he carries the bat all the way around and, in the umpire’s judgment, unintentionally hits the catcher or the ball in back of him on the back swing before the catcher has securely held the ball, it shall be called a strike only (not interference). The ball will be dead, however, and no runner shall advance on the play.”
Case Point 4.11 PBUC Umpire Manual:
“If this infraction should occur in a situation where the batter would normally become a runner because of a third strike not caught, the ball shall be dead and the batter declared out.”
Key phrase: “:before the catcher has securely held the ball”
That’s not what you said happened. You said the ball hit the dirt. Therefore the ball hit the ground before the bat the second time. The ball is therefore live and in play once hitting the dirt.
The batter could either be called out for interference for striking the live ball with the bat or if the umps fails to do that the catcher must throw him out at first like any other strike three in the dirt.
Ok YMMV but here
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/umpires/feature.jsp?feature=call5
I’ll need you to pick up my call on your cell when I ump….
Without the World Series thousands more cars would have been on Bay Area Freeways and the deaths would have tripled. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8d43f81d7af8e21cd7a74ab6943e19065e301b47f266a3d91fb48b79a28b14bd.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/432f73525bb49ad13ceb554cce282ce5449abfb8ab05f6daf4889c0a5b92b2d6.jpg
#52 DeMerritt (not on roster) Pictured with Manwaring, Bedrock and Dravecky
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Will and son
Theriot – Gone – Kontos – here – Javy – 90% gone – Clay Hensley – To quote Eddie D “He Long Gone” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a4429db9cb5feaf738313610a2e110cf9f3bc5a9d8234f2e52460423c859e674.jpg
Aw Theriot was fun.
I’ll never forget the scream of joy that he let out when he scored the go-ahead run in Game 4 in Detroit. When you listen to Dave Fleming’s call of that hit, you can hear Theriot shouting.
Ha yeah I remember his yell. And his fashion choices
When the Cubs beat the Giants it reminded me when the Gmen beat the Phillies in 2010. They ended Philadelphia’s dominance. Is the same this time. The Giants run is over. The Cubs will only get better as they are young and have a bigger payroll. The Giants core four is already finished; we saw that this year and Posey is regressing very quickly. Only Bumgarner scares me.
Soon it will be: LasordaKoufaxWillieDavisWillsRonnieReagan in the nom de plume
Have you noticed the trend in sport? With a few exceptions, players are having shorter careers. They perform well at the beginning, leading to speculation that longevity lies ahead. But quickly someone younger emerges and is just better. It’s like we’re producing younger and better players at a more frequent clip. That’s why I think getting rid of players like Panik, MadBum, and Nunez makes sense (but not all at the same time). You have to get the young prospects to keep the ship running.
I don’t think this was like the Phillies in 2010 at all, not least because the Phillies were huge favorites.
Yes, the Giants team that won three WS rings has only a few survivors now. Can they win any more? I don’t know. As a Giants fan, I am satisfied with making the playoffs, winning the division, individual performances and recognition, stuff like that.
But we were heavy underdogs to the Cubs. We were expected to lose. We barely made the playoffs. This wasn’t the Giants vs PHI, or the 49ers vs Dallas. This was a club that was stacked to win it all (Cubs) versus a club that is in transition.
If our bullpen settles down (including closer) and if our hitting rebounds (by themselves or with a key addition) I think we can beat them next time.
Cubs don’t scare me. Their rotation is generally older, their lineup has two great hitters and a third who merely thinks he’s a great hitter (Baez) who in addition is addicted to gimmick plays in the field.
Dodgers are more of a threat. They have Kershaw, they have Seager as almost certain ROY, they have AGon, they have Turner, they have Puig ….. Yes their rotation is not that strong and their bullpen isn’t either, but at least for right now they are a force to contend with.
Blah, blah, blah…
There is nothing close in the resemblance of that aging Phillies Team of 2010 and the Giants of 2016. The Phillies Starting Staff averaged 32 years old….and most of their key players were at that age too.
The Cubs Staff is old and getting older (average is 31.8 years old…almost like the 2010 Phillies). Most baseball folks feel they’ll lose Arrietta to FA after next season.
Arrietta (30), Lackey (37), Lester (32), Hendricks (26), Hammel (34) – Average 31. 8 years
Bumgarner (27), Cueto (30), Shark (31), Moore (27), Black (25) – Average 28 years old.
1B: Belt (28), Rizzo (27)
2B: Panik (25), Baez (23)
SS: Crawford (29), Russell (22)
3B Nunez/Gillaspie (29), Bryant (24)…and Giants have Arroyo targeted there (21)
C: Posey (29), Montero (33)/Contraras (24)…which doesn’t matter. Posey is the best.
LF: Giants (TBD), Zobrist (35)
CF: Span (32), Fowler (30)
RF: Pence (33), Heyward (27)
Once the Giants get their closer situation squared away, the Cubs will still have to contend with this Giants team another 2-3 years.
I believe most of the 2010 Phillies now plays for the 2016 Dodgers
When they scuffled with injuries they brought up Green, Tejada and Pena to drive us crazy – but in a mad-cap way they righted the deck chairs.
The Cory Gearrin roster decision was odd.
Quite a few intangibles IMO – caused some major bumpiness along the way and its mostly a given that the first half was not indicative of the real 16 team.
Some of these were one year removed and some of these players are two yrs removed but something about them was still missed within the framework of the TEAM. Some obviously marginally but others more so.
* Affeldt
* Flannery
* Petit
* Heston * Machi * Ishi * Marlon Byrd (PED’s) * Juan_4_One Perez * Vogey * Timmy * Huddy
* Aoki (in a very very strange way)
* Michael Morse
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I should have attended more of my high school’s games against Foothill. Might have had a chance to spot BCraw. But our soccer team was much better (undefeated for most of the season I think) and therefore more fun to watch than our baseball and football teams.
The time was 5:04 PM – less than 20 minutes from now.
Where exactly were you?
Buttonwillow. Pulled in to get gas and find a TV to watch the game. Quickly hightailed it back to the Bay Area to check on family. Would spend the next 2 weeks living in my car, working around the clock with little to no sleep to help quake victims in Santa Cruz Co. Never thought about baseball or the WS in that time period.
On the way home from Richmond to Alameda to watch the game. Fortunately, I made a side trip to National University in one of those buildings on the landfill in Emeryville. That building shook something awful, windows blowing out, false ceilings falling down, etc. Went outside and looked over and saw the white line of concrete dust and knew that the cypress had collapsed. So I drove toward the Bay Bridge and used the Army base overpass to get down to near the big post office building and was able to make it past the collapse and in to Alameda. It took Mrs, PerSpeier about four hours to get home, the longest wait of my life.
What about you Clutch?
Ought Oh… “What about you Clutch” ?
I had sold my tickets because my daughter of 10 years old was in La Honda for an out-door-Ed trip. I was going to listen on the radio as I drove to pick her up. Pick up times was 745pm on October 17th. So here it is… On was “on the throne” when the first wave hit. Across from me (upstairs) the tiles on the shower-tub – started making a figure S. I did not wait around for the finale of my task. Headed downstairs and outside on the lawn ….
To be continued…
Great, glad I asked….
I was on the East Coast with my young son wearing my Giants cap and parked in front of the TV waiting for the first World Series game in Candlestick since Game #7 of the 1962 series.
Then it happened, and about ten minutes later I started playing telephone tag with my family in the Bay Area, all of whom were OK.
The Giants had been overmatched in the first two games, played on the other side of the Bay, and it was hoped that by playing at home we could score on their #3 and #4 pitchers and build a little momentum.
However, the loss of life, the destruction, the ten day delay, plus the fact that Oakland ran out their #1 and #2 again when play resumed more or less assured if not a sweep but a WS that no one cared about anymore. At least, I didn’t.
I was on the 6th floor of an office building, which took a pretty good shake. I was joking about it as everyone left down the stairwells. For some reason, no one else seemed to be in a joking mood.
What the heck happened to Bauer’s hand????
He pulled an Affeldt while trying to fix his phone. 13 stitches.
Holy schneikies…that thing was gushing
Not watching. Did he blow out his stitches?
Yup. First inning…it was pouring out of his hand, and Gibbons went to the umps about it…Francona just pulled him still in the first
Gaylord Perry could probably have worked some magic with a blood ball.
LOL. Hide in plane sight.
Actually, he cut it working on his pet drone.
Guessing there’ll be no repurcussions.
Bauer, bloody idiot. SMH
These Jays fans continue to show restraint and class.
/S
Former Giant Dan Otero coming in to pitch for the Tribe. I just tuned in on the radio, what’s Trevor Bauer’s injury? The broadcasters are saying he was dripping blood from his finger between pitches before Gibbons called it to the attention of the umps. The broadcasters are saying it was a problem known before this game. A blister?
Now I see the posts below. Yuck.
Another Giants farm system player that is a trusted MLB pitcher.
Okay, they gave up on him too early.
According to his Baseball Reference page, pitched for the Giants in 2012, 12 games, all in relief, 0-0, 5.43, no saves, 12.1 IP, 19 hits, 2 BB, 1.70 WHIP. Wasn’t he the guy who had a bowling ball sinker pitch? The interesting thing is that in his short Giants career he wore uniform numbers 37, 43 and… 87 ! After the Giants, he pitched 3 yrs. with the A’s and now this year with the Tribe.
Pin point low 3/4 guy, 88-91
It’s an outrage!! A disgrace!! This never happens to other teams. Heads should roll.
He escaped the A’s too, a sure sign of undiscovered value. You’re supposed to step in front of a speeding train when you leave the Giants.
Former A too
Yankees had him, too.
Apparently he was playing with his drone and it sliced his finger. He got a few stitches but clearly they didn’t hold. His finger looked like an infected zombie bite prior to the nonstop dripping. Lovely.
TEN stiches, peachy! Not a small wound.
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Thanks, peachy!
Anything for you, Moo.
Dude, that’s gnarly, like something out of a Sam Peckinpah movie.
Hmm … pretty clear the fielder had not picked up the ball in time … weird.
A few days before, I believe they announced single game tickets were going on sale by telephone. For hours my father and I took turns calling the number and for hours we both got busy signals. It was utter frustration. We both gave up. Then my Mom comes home from work, calls the number once, gets right on and places the order: me and Dad are going to Games 3 and 4 of the 1989 World Series!!! That day they opened the gates to the parking lot early, so we pulled up next to the Gallagher boys around noon, Dad’s truck loaded with beer and barbecueables and proceeded for the next few hours to get as drunk as lords. As we were making our way to the seats, Sec. 40, Row 2, Bleachers, (really terrible seats like a mile away from home plate, but who cares, it’s the World Series) normally general admission but $40 a pop this day, I recall a loud thunderous rolling roaring and I looked up at the huge scoreboard, under which Dad and I were standing in the crowded aisle going down to our seats and it seemed to be banging against the wall. Earlier that year I saw a series at Dodger Stadium and I remember being impressed by the fans there who were either banging on their seats or stamping their feet in unison to create a rolling roar that reverberated around that stadium and in my drunken stupor I believed the fans in the deck above me were doing the same thing and I yelled “Hey, Stop it, you a$$holes!” Then I looked at my Dad, saw the look on his face, saw his hand gripping the bannister, noticed that it too was moving and then thinking “How San Francisco” I started along with everybody else in that drunken stadium cheering as loud as I could.
Strong 💪 post of night candidate 🏆
I’ll tell you what- back in the day I had a lot of experience in the drunken stupor department and I couldn’t remember a darn thing afterwards.
I have extremely vague recollections of a twilight double-header vs. the Dodgers in the late 1980s. I walked in with a week’s pay, about $80, and woke up the next day with about seven or eight dollars left. In quarters.
It was me. I caused the earthquake. Those damn gophers, took care of them, and how.
BTW, George, thanks for posting the official ABC broadcast. That was first time I ever saw the first five minutes of that, with the opening music and montage and all. Boy, what cheesy production values network tv had back then, eh?
Yesterday’s cheese is today’s historical magic!
I thank GG too, that’s a high-quality video of the ABC broadcast. Who was that singing that awful easy-listening song at the beginning? James Taylor?
Indians have players. Kipnis is major player – more athletic Murphy.
Stroman is heck of a player. I applaud his effort.
I HEART Kipnis.
He “got” our guy Stro
Their “best player”, Brantley…
Be
A
Genie
Joe
I believe Joe Biagini is the blogs new Adam Duvall!
Wait til you meet Susac, Matthew.
Out on the road today
I saw a Susac sticker on a Prius
A little voice inside my head said
Why did he leave us?
Susac is more accurately the new Hector Sanchez.
Panik is the new Honus Wagner
Wonderful.
Certain keyboards are at the gate, their jockeys in position…it’s a sprint to the finish in the GM Stakes
Seems like Miller time is always around the corner in this series.
Whatever happened to Lowenbrau?
And Michelob non-ultra?
You crazy marketing people!
There was a display of a golfer made of ultra boxes at Vons.
Here’s to good friends…tonight is kinda special…the beer we’ll pour…must be something more…so tonight…tonight….let it be Lowenbrau
Doesn’t “somehow” follow more?
Dunno…drank too many too remember
That’s some good beer commercial recall. Then at the end one guy leans over to his buddy and says, “Dolan, you’re a genius.” (for selecting Lowenbrau) It was an import beer from Germany but in the early 80’s Miller was brewing it domestically under license. $2.99/6-pack. Back then Heineken was $4.50/6-pk.
I had the real stuff when I was flying to Germany in the early 80’s and it was seriously good beer. Then while actually in Germany they served it kinda room temp and I could not get used to that.
The way to get used to room-temp beer: English bitters. That stuff is so tasty. I’m sure there’s a micro-brewery that’s producing something like an English bitter but I don’t know who. Yes, even that domestic Lowenbrau was really good, esp. the dark. Is Lowenbrau still being made?
John Lowenstein?
Hamm’s…What my grandfather would drink at Giants games back in the 70’s.
That’s what I used to drink at the Los Banos Basque picnics many many years ago. Might of been 11 or 12 back then.
Quite an at bat! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/280f8810555c9738b83bf6b1843206dda38200e63d5161727f63413ab41e93c3.png
Coco saves the day
I’m cuckoo for Coco Crisp
Wahoo! Indians up 3-nil.Harry Doyle is going crazy.
122 days until pitchers and catchers report.
The Giants should have emptied the farm for Miller at the trade deadline.
I challenge anyone to tell me things may not have turned out differently.
It has nothing to do with any hitting or OF Defense deficiencies.
Bottom line the Giants easily had one of the best rotations in the game at the end of the season, having Miller back there would have been enough to go back to the WS THIS SEASON.
Wasn’t there something written that the Yankees weren’t even taken the Giants’ calls? Kind of hard to empty the Farm System, when the trader wouldn’t take your calls because they don’t like what you have.
He’s a difference maker. No doubt.
If the Giants didn’t half ass it they could have made it happen. No one knows the true details.
Many reports were that Panik was a required piece of the action. I agree with not trading him, but somehow the Giants needed to explore anything possible since they were so close.
What were you hearing in NY at the time (regarding the Giants interest)?
That the Giants system is crap, in so many words.
Once the Giants said no way to Panik, I think they just moved on.
As I’ve said, Miller and Chapman were on sale most of the first half, enough time for a team that was really serious to come correct with a plan.
I feel the Giants just half assed the situation, made calls to appease fans without really being all in.
It also likes the two teams that made plays for Miller and Chapman will play in the WS.
I still think the Giants should have been able to LL and Melancon even with their depleted farm, which probably would have been enough to win the west — a lot of blown saves avoided.
“No one knows the true details”
Including you,
But aren’t you the guy that says the farm has nothing in it? Why would New York have done that?
Because of that very reason, empty the shit out and start over, you think what they have will materialize in the next few seasons into some young stars? Hardly, but the Yankees just needed players, back load the deal with a bunch of arms we don’t need, since we already had set the rotation up for a few seasons.
So, the Yankees would have taken that “pile” in exchange for Miller. Gotcha.
And, I actually would love to get you that a couple actually will evolve. Let’s chat in 2018
A lot of help that did this Fall. In 2018 guys like Posey and Crawford will just be older.
The time was now.
Relax…
that’s your answer whenever I’m right.
How possibly can either of us know if you are right in judging minor league talent? I truly think you’re wrong about the farm…hey, I might be wrong. Like I said, let’s chat in 2018
E’s hindsight 60/20.
If you’ve been paying attention, the Yankees wanted Panik. Maybe they should’ve done it, but emptying the farm alone wouldn’t have been enough to get Miller.
yes I know, still I got the feeling the Giants were not earnest in their quest to fix the pen, they needed to do whatever it took.
I think they might agree with you now.
Once 2017 season starts, we’re all going to forget about this, so hang in there until the end of offseason. Team’s future isn’t as bleak as it seems.
If CLE sweeps the down time idling might actually do them good with all their walking wounded
Kaepernick compares himself to Muhammed Ali, and says it’s up to him to make sure that Ali didn’t die in vain. In doing so, he combines dimwittedness with a laughably exaggerated view of his own importance.
http://deadspin.com/who-was-really-expecting-colin-kaepernick-to-talk-about-1787877920
I think there are thousands and thousands of people, if not more, who are very committed to upholding Ali’s legacy in many ways.
#75
Ali’s legacy isn’t dependent upon anything Colin Kaepernick says or does.
Me and several other legacy fans regularly get together and do legacy stuff.We’re a smidge oldish to try floating like butterflies but I’m quite sure that Ali appreciates the thought.
Non Black People may have issues relating …
Assuming this election doesn’t divide and destroy this country, 2017 could be crazy. The Bay Area has a legit shot for the Raiders to win the Super Bowl, the Warriors to win the NBA Championship, the Sharks to win the Stanley Cup, and the Giants to win the World Series. These are all in the realm of possibilities. Would the Bay Area the own the quafecta of sports titles? Or would it be a quadfecta of sports titles? Crazy stuff right there. If the Indians win the WS, does Cleveland own a duofecta? or dualfecta? of sports titles? No trifecta. Browns are out of the picture.
This past year (2016) was a great shot for the Bay Area teams to win titles – Warriors, Sharks, Giants – unfortunately they all flubbed it at the end. And as you said Cleveland seems primed to fill that gap.
Thanks for the post about the Earthquake WS Game, GG. I was at the game and didn’t feel nor hear a thing. I’d taken a bus to Candlestick and was walking through the parking lot towards that long outdoor escalator behind the CF bleachers when the earthquake struck. If you’re not indoors and hearing the walls creak and feeling the foundation shake, you can’t really notice an earthquake. That escalator stopped working and I had to walk up it. Inside, the players were all out on the field looking up and wondering what was going on. I met my buddy, we saw a shot of the collapsed section of the Bay Bridge on a small B&W portable TV that some guy had. That’s when we knew it was really serious.
I was in the upper-deck center field (Section 52?) and I remember seeing the blimp leaving in the direction of the cypress structure. Rumors were rampant that the entire Bay Bridge went down (not just a section of it). I also saw the guy climbing up the stadium light fixture to free up the huge sock pennant (just to the left of me, when looking out on the field), but didn’t give him another thought after the earthquake hit. It wasn’t until I saw the t-shirts of him holding on for dear life (days later) that I realized he was up there when the quake hit. Ralph Barbieri mentioned he was in the parking lot when it hit and said the asphalt look liked ocean waves.
Greg Holland, coming offf of Tommy John, won’t and shouldn’t be the Giants’ first choice, but I bet they’re going to be eager to see him throw. Pre-injury, he was as dominant a closer as anyone in baseball.
Indians are winning with essentially 1 starter, like the 2014 Giants. Maybe the Giants put too much stock in the starting rotation at the expense of the bullpen. In the playoffs, bullpen >> starting pitching. With all the days rest now, bullpen guys can pitch nearly everyday.
So, getting back to the ’89 WS earthquake for a moment. As I had commented earlier from Sunday’s Surf guest post, I just came home from work (Sacramento) getting ready to watch the WS when, as I was walking up my driveway, I felt the ground underneath me kind of roll. I thought for a second maybe I just had a dizzy spell, thought nothing of it, and went inside, grabbed a beer, sat down and started to watch the pre-game, then the TV screen showed a green background with just the words “World Series”, as we’ve seen from countless You Tube videos.
I’m originally from the Bay Area (last lived in Alameda), and I remember taking those morning trips to Naval Air Station Alameda on the Cypress Freeway to drop my step-father off for work (mom drove, I was a pup back then), and when I saw that that portion of the freeway had collapsed, I was in total shock and disbelief. It took that image for me to realize that this really did happen and baseball took a back seat. All my relatives were fine as they lived in the outline areas. I will never forget that day and I’m sure most of you here on TWG won’t either.
The Giants-A’s World Series saved a lot of lives that day. When the quake hit I was living in Alameda and working in Richmond so I took the upper section of the Cypress home (well not that day). Before that I worked in Alameda and commuted the opposite direction. In the five o’clock hour there was often bumper to bumper traffic on the lower Cypress. That day the commuters were scattered, very light traffic, many had already gone home or to wherever they were going to watch the game. On a normal day there could have easily been a hundred or more additional cars crushed.
Most definitely PS35; additional cars would’ve been crushed.
I was 9 at the time when I lived in Alameda, moved to Sacramento in ’74 when my step-father got a job transfer (still wish I lived in the Bay Area, somewhere). I lived between Lincoln ? and Santa Clara Avenues.
We liked Alameda a lot but after the freeway collapsed and altered our commute we moved to be closer to our jobs. We lived on Otis and I saw lots of liquefaction seeping up through the sidewalks though I don’t remember Alameda suffering much damage beyond everything falling off the shelves at the stores. I could smell the cheap wine from a liquor store a block away.
MD 20/20 back in the day, huh? Now that’s cheap wine!
It’s easy enough to see that Andrew Miller is awesome, but I’ve also been impressed with the work of Bryan Shaw and Cody Allen. They give Tito the luxury of really picking his spots with the Ultimate Weapon.
I’m not at all surprised about Cleveland. Good, solid baseball team getting hot at the right time. Francona doing a great job–they remind me of the 2010 Giants.
And to think Michael Brantley was emerging as one of the very best players in MLB, a bonafide superstar – in ’14 and ’15 he hit .327 and .310 with 35 HRs combined and maintained a strikeout rate below 10%. It had all come together before injuries took out his ’16 season.
And then there’s the not so small matter of Salazar and Carrasco.
It’s not the Cubs that have the most talent, it’s the Indians.
They have their own band of misfits. Francona’s not afraid of moving guys around in the lineup. Outstanding bullpen–those middle guys really stepped up last night. Not done yet, though.
Coco and Napoli! Jose Ramirez reminds me of a young Uribe. Naquin is a good young player too. Lindor and Kipnis may be the best all around middle infield combo in baseball.
If Cleveland wins the WS, the Chowderheads are going to freak out that Tito won somewhere other than Boston. They were already complaining about their current manager after the Indians took the Red Sox out.
The Anti-Lasodra pondered: if not Melancon or the other big three, then who could Evans trade for?
Do the Rays need really need a closer? Or how badly do they need one? Or aren’t they the frugal and smart kind of team that capitalizes on the market and deals a young closer like the Phillies did with Ken Giles?
So Alex Colome is 28 next year, is 6-2, about 220, has pitched as a starter before, but saved 37 games last year. He’s arb eligible in 2018. He throws the 2 seam fastball at about 93-95 and a cutter in the high 80’s. Pretty much a two pitch guy. With that repertoire he K’d over 11 batters per nine and walked just over 2 per nine.
His price tag: ‘Spensive, a bounty of prospects, as was the cost for Ken Giles.
If I’m the Giants, I do everything I can to get Melancon; even if you have to overpay.
I agree. Keep the prospects, no draft pick loss, and drastically reduce the number of blown saves; which should win the division…perhaps even a home field advantage during playoffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkqQj8Z_aVY
good morning, Capt. Steve.
what’s up my brother from another? been listening to some tunes from TS. that dude has some serious chops..
Thank you, Steve. That was nice. Great memories.
glad you enjoyed it, TF. i was 17, and working at the local burger king when i first heard that. one of the great things about music is the great memories it congers up. enjoy your day, my friend.
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