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Greek Giant
With a relatively weak free agent class and key players getting signed rapidly after the new collective bargaining agreement was ratified, the 2016 winter meetings at Gaylord National Resort in Maryland may offer a little less splash than those in years past. This doesn’t mean, however, there isn’t plenty of suspense for Giants fans. With the news of Matt Holliday signing with the Yankees (not the Giants, thank God!) and Carlos Beltran signing with the Astros (not the Giants, thank God again!), this means two potential left-fielders are off the board for Bobby Evans.
There are plenty of rumors swirling around Mark Melancon and the Nationals working on an agreement as well. There are many rumors, suppositions and guessing games being played and Grant Brisbee has done a good job of putting them together.
Players to Watch:
Andrew McCutcheon
The rumor is the Pirates want to deal him while they still have some leverage, one year before his final season. This is somewhat hard to accept as a baseball fan. Cutch is to the Pirates what Buster Posey is to the Giants, minus the three rings of course.
Jose Bautista
I’ve always loved Joey Bats. I love him for his swagger and for his ability to homer off any pitcher any time and pull any pitch into a light-speed laser show over left field walls. He is now 36 and he is seeking a multi-year deal. Too bad the Giants don’t have a DH spot open in their lineup. He would be perfect. Forget about him for left field.
Evan Longoria
Rumors are a flutter that the dread Bums are interested in pursuing a trade for Longo with the Rays. While he is locked up in a semi team-friendly deal and he is the face of the Tampa Bay franchise, this is the Rays, this is the Dodgers. Anything can happen.
Mark Melancon
The holy Grail of closers to many Giants fans, the bidding may have already started for the highly-effective closer.
I suspect these meetings will bring with us many potential shockers (Nationals trading for Chris Sale, for example). We shall see. In the meantime, Bobby Evans and Co. will likely be more active signing free agents than making trades, but one never knows. Sometimes when we think we can predict the results of a major event prognosticators, pro and amateur, get humbled (see the 2016 Election).
let’s start the day with some thanks to the men & women of our armed forces…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtdIO23MKM&list=LLNVarrLgL2_keBqlPNts7Eg&index=96
Bowden just tweeted that Giants are 1 of many in on Jenson. Marlins, Nationals, Cubs, Yankees, and Smurfs too.
Alex tweeting that there’s a strong feeling within organization that Melancon deal gets done.
If Alex said it, that’s good enough for me!
Alex Pavlovic 10min ago:
A couple of times over weekend, Giants felt they were very close to a Melancon deal. Strong belief inside organization that it gets done.
Dewey Defeats Truman!
Whoa! Didn’t we just go through that as a country?
Jon Heyman reports:
“Mark Melancon continues to be the San Francisco Giants’ main target, but if they can’t outbid the Washington Nationals, Miami Marlins and others, it seems unlikely they will try for one of the two bigger closers — Kenley Jansen or Aroldis Chapman — whose prices will be considerably higher. Greg Holland could be a backup plan to Melancon, who’s expected to beat Jonathan Papelbon’s $50 million free-agent record but not get close to the Jansen/Chapman stratosphere.”
Heyman seems unaware that Chapman comes at a cost for the Giants that has nothing to do with money.
Greg Holland’s showcase did not inspire and illuminated risks. The breezy statement: “his velocity should be back up within four months” afterwards was chilling.
I don’t think the Giants care much about Chapman’s off-the-field issues.
Actually they do.
All reports are that they are in on all three. With Chapman, I think the concerns are money and whether his super fastball will hold up.
You must not be reading reports, tweets, and Q&A’s with Alex Pavlovic, Ann Killion, Hank Schulman, or Carl Steward. This if from Carl’s latest report on December 2, 2016:
“Chapman’s domestic violence history (not to mention his rumored five-year, $100 million contract demand) might not play well in San Francisco, and the Giants would still have to surrender a first-round draft pick to sign Jansen, although it would be taking a key player away from the division-rival Dodgers. Melancon, without much question, is the No. 1 guy. He just has Giant written all over him – unflashy, consistent, keeps the ball down, throws strike after strike. He has only given up seven homers over 148 innings the past two seasons with 98 saves. But naturally, the competition could be stiff, notably from the Nationals, Dodgers and possibly the Rockies (Melancon is a Colorado native), which is is why Holland is on the Giants’ radar as a Plan B. It might require a four-year offer to seal a deal for Melancon.”
All reports by the reporters I mentioned state that Chapman’s domestic violence history will likely not play well in San Francisco. They’re right. Chapman’s DV history and history of angrily shooting a gun off in his garage with one bullet going through an open window will not play well with many Giants fans, no matter where they live.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/02/will-giants-close-the-deal-on-a-closer-at-winter-meetings/
The Giants looked into trading for Chapman last season, something they wouldn’t have done if that incident troubled them that much. $100 million? Now that’s troubling to an organization.
I also don’t doubt that signing Chapman would bother many fans. I think it’s interesting that may of those same fans are probably among the Californians that keep voting to release from prison criminals with violent histories.
The Giants can’t outbid ???
They can outbid anyone…they may not choose to outbid..
I just hate the money thing with the giants…please…this is one very rich organization
I read somewhere this morning that the Washington Nationals initially offered a contract to Melancon that was 4 years but less than $60 million. I read somewhere else that the Giants’ bid for Melancon is 4 years and more than $60 million.
I’ve missed a lot of discussion, do we (the bloggers) really care how much the Giants spend on a closer? Like when the numbers are announced is there an amount we would or would not be happy with?
what’s the real difference between 4/52 and 4/62, right?
Yes. if you want them to have enough money left to get a middle of the order Outfield bat, if you want them to stay pat in the outfield no .
I watch the Giants’ expenditures to some degree. I appreciate that they seem to manage their money wisely and plan ahead and not free-wheel it like the Dodgers, who always seem to be playing some form of jeopardy with their budget.
Yeah I am with you there. I also feel like closer is priority one this off-season and if they can get one of the elites, they shouldn’t shy away from spending what is necessary. All within reason I suppose.
What a joke the veterans committee of the Hall of Fame is, never want to vote in Players to join the Club, but will vote for Bud Selig, who was blind to steroid abuse for 20 years , before changing his tune, when he was forced to.
Selig also presided over the tie All Star Game and his greatest disgrace: 1994 and NO WORLD SERIES!
Non Sports questions. Looking for wisdom of the crowd:
I don’t watch much TV including sports. I’m getting ready to cut the cord. Which services would provide shows I like but with no commercials (example Big Bang and some stuff on PBS). Options seem like Hulu, Apple TV, Amazon or other. Most of you seem to be enjoying other services.
Thanks in advance.
With a snowstorm blowing in last night, I signed up for Acorn TV yesterday (available through Roku), which features many of the British and Australian shows I happen to like. I found something unexpected: “The Yorkshire Vet” — a documentary of the Skeldale Veterinary Centre, which was James Herriot’s original veterinary practice. Christopher Timothy, who played James Herriot in the original fictional series “All Creatures Great and Small,” narrates the documentary.
Great stuff on youtube. Free!
who says data is free?
I cut the cord recently. I really like the shows on Netflix but I’m still averaging 1hr of tv viewing a week even though I there is a ton of shows I’d like to watch.
Netflix is still the best, but Hulu is a close 2nd, IMO. I can’t see why Amazon still persists, what a clunker.
Ken wouldn’t lie. He tries to keep it as real as possible…
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/805814480739401729
I’m giving the Giants 15 more minutes to close the deal, then I have to go shovel snow.
I’d love to come help you. I often much prefer physical work over working on tables charts and text in front of computer.
I had to spend so much time on the computer when I was working, documenting case notes, etc. Even though it was Sunday yesterday (all days blend together in retirement), I enjoyed being outside working hurriedly on many things before the snowstorm and freezing temps hit. Many of our neighbors were doing the same: putting up the rest of the storm windows, reseeding the lawn and spreading compost. You don’t want to reseed when temps are in the 40s, the seed could germinate.
working hurriedly in the afternoons is right. It gets dark so early.
It’s being discussed (“close”) all over twitter now
Hurrah!
That settles it; “TWG Winter Meetings” will be at Bapah’s place near San Diego, not your place.
I hope Melancon realizes the firestorm of expectations his arrival will kindle, fair or not.
Oh, it’s all fair.
Zealot! 😉
What can I say? I wanted Melancon from the get-go.
Just my opinion, but for the Giants Melancon was by far the best fit from the get go. It’ll be interesting how he and Posey mesh.
My guess: very well, on field and off field.
Bowtie just tweeted Giants “close” to Melancon.
Heyman just tweeted that a mystery team…not yet publicly discussed (Dodgers were already mentioned)…in talks for McCutchen.
“Bowtie.” Hilarious!
I read the combo of tweets that the Dodgers are the “mystery” team.
If it’s a combo of tweets, then is it really a “mystery”? Hmmm…. 🙂
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Not a fan of Bonds as a person, but I think it’s crazy that Selig gets in HOF and the players that “enhanced” to generate the record revenue Selig is getting so much credit for…is sitting on the outside of the HOF doors.
Do we really know any player, as a person, Bonds was never in legal trouble off the field, some players that you like may be A holes in real life and you would never know, I watched an Interview with Buster Posey’s wife , and she said he was a perfectionist and was constantly correcting her, that would grow old fast if I was her .
Selig in the Hall is only slightly less disgusting than was seeing Rose and A-Rod invited onto FOX’s pregame panel.
Pete Rose was his usual self and looked like he was about to bust out of his suit and bowtie. I was impressed with how articulate and well-prepared Alex Rodriguez was. I’m one of those who believes Pete Rose should be in the Hall.
If and only if Pete makes a genuine apology. Fantastic player, a student of the game while still playing, and yet too stupid to stay away from gambling?
I watched him play. I was living in Cincinnati when the Big Red Machine was dominant.
As much as I hated the Reds for beating the Astros like a drum in those days, that was a whale of a baseball team.
It sure was. I mostly went to day games. Memories of sunny days, bang-bang plays. It was electrifying watching that team play together.
What just grated on Astros fans was that they set the Machine into motion by trading the Reds the lynch pin, Joe Morgan. Few people recall organ was an Astro long before he was a Red.
I remember. But you know that already.
Lost opportunities and Tal Smith, that’s more than one franchise should have to endure.
Not to mention the ‘Stros being exiled to the AL by Selig (which might bring this loop full circle?).
Alex Pavlovic 56 sec ago:
Have heard same as @Ken_Rosenthal, Giants are close to deal with Melancon.
John Shea is at the Winter Meetings for the Chronicle. His report this morning on the Giants closing in on Melancon opens with: “The Giants are willing to go where no Giants team has gone before.”
(Access this report through Shea’s or Hank’s twitter account.)
Boldy? We’ve been watching a fair amount of Star Trek lately – the Original and The Next Generation.
70 days until the Orange and Black arrive in sunny Scottsdale!
GD, let’s play ball.
By Cash Kruth / MLB.com | 17 minutes ago
The Giants appear to have found their closer. MLB Network’s Ken Rosenthal reported Monday the Giants are closing in on a deal with right-hander Mark Melancon.
I can’t help myself…I keep refreshing this forum, MLBTR, and various Twitter accounts to see if the G’s landed Melancon when I should be working. Definitely on my holiday wish list (along with the extremely hard to get NES Classic). I’ll take Greg Holland at a “rebuild value” price too 🙂
Never been so excited about winter meetings!
I can’t help myself either. I’m supposed to be out there in the grey whiteness shoveling snow. Okay, I better get going.
Move the TV outside with a loooong cable!
Did you set aside $70m for him? 😉
The Oracle wrote “I think both LJS and Alvise were creations of someone else. I can’t wait to see what country this year’s fake European comes from.”
I will not let your curiosity remains unsatisfied and then I’ll let you choose between Lithuania, Liechtenstein and Andorra. As it regards this year’s European fake I tell you just this: “Te sòn solo un povero mona de cocàl !”. It’s written in Venetian dialect that neither Google Translator nor an average Italian outside Venice could never translate or understand.
Alvise Contarini
Official Bailo to American Baseball.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailo
Not that it matters but, The word is out. @underarmour will be the next official uniform supplier of @mlb #IWILL https://t.co/fJO7uHaylz.
This from Buster himself.
He said he will instagram it.
My apologies if I asked this before, but how bad would it be if the Giants didn’t get any of the big 3 and made Law the closer?
IMO, it’ll cost them 4-5 games minimum. If Law closes, you lose the set up strength too. Law plus Melancon is stronger than either alone. Besides, Law will still see chances at closing, even with Melancon.
Well said.
Why thank you, pathfinder.
Bruce Bochy does no trust young players, so would replace him as closer after a few bad outings .
Wilson was 26 saved 40 games.
Don’t dilute his fantasy with facts.
Moot point now! Welcome to SF Mr. Melancon!
Never hurts to have options or having your arse covered…
Just need the money amount
https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/805829340780969984
I’m gonna guess 62 million.
Meanwhile Bumgarner is patiently waiting for his just rewards …
They’ve been talking to his agents for awhile, so I’m sure he knows what’s going on.
I think Evans gets Bumgarner done later this winter. It’s gonna be some big potatoes and it’s going to add to the AAV against the luxury tax limit.
Just send him a trailer full of corriente steer and some Wrangler jeans and I’m sure he’ll be happy.
A couple more F-150s too.
I wonder what he really drives – or what his family has historically driven.
He really drives Fords.
Just like he really wears Carharrt gear.
Well he gave the Chevy Colorado (WS MVP vehicle) to his Dad, so I’m thinking he’s a Ford guy…at least until his contract with Ford ends.
It had too much technology and stuff for Madbum.
What? Bumgarner wears Wranglers and not Carharrt jeans and jackets?
I’m beginning to believe Bumgarner is a different drummer, how much money does one man need type. When they made him, they seem to have broken the mold. He’s one of those ballplayers people will talk about long after he hangs up his spikes.
Pay it happily
Four year deal? Or does his style go well into a fifth year?
Good question.
Alex’s report from the Winter Meetings:
“On the first day of the annual Winter Meetings, the Giants are close to accomplishing their biggest offseason goal.
The Giants and All-Star closer Mark Melancon are close to a deal, per league sources, with an announcement expected to come at some point Monday. Melancon is one of three big-name closers on the free agent market and he has been a priority for the Giants, who need a solution for the ninth inning.”
http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/sources-giants-close-deal-closer-mark-melancon
Taking his physical right now with the Giants according to Buster Olney , so deal is almost official .
Thanks, Peter!
Are you in the room?
Peter referenced Buster Olney’s tweet 24 minutes ago:
Sources: The Giants and Mark Melancon have agreed to a deal, pending a physical; Melancon is going through his physical.
CSN referenced Buster Olney’s tweet as well.
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 34s34 seconds ago
Once Giants finished the Melancon deal, can use money leftover for other bullpen pieces, and OFer from that flush market.
Doubt they add anything else to pen. It’s stacked with capable bodies:
Melancon
Law
Smith
Strickland
Osich
Gearrin
Kontos
Okert
Suarez
Blach/Cain
I will be intrigued to see the difference between Melancon’s salary and Jansen’s. I hope the Giants make prudent use of the savings differential between the two.
I just hope he brings his spear, we’re going to war. I want a Cub rug.
A Cub rug would look great on the wall. And Melancon striking out Baez to end the series would be all the more sweet.
so you think they can win the division now?
Keep eyes peeled on what Dodgers do. They certainly have their hands full this winter.
*Can*? F ya! Will they? Hmmmm, they have a great shot. Look at that rotation, might be the best in baseball.
You ever hear about this thing you need to win games, Runs Scored !
Their offense will be ok IMO. It’s not going to lead the league in anything (other than maybe least Ks) but as long as they stay healthy I think they’ll be fine. And I think the Giants will add a piece on offense, not a huge piece necessarily, but I think they’ll bring in some depth.
Simply put, yes.
Yes, with Melancon pitching as he has.
They are paying a record amount for him, no reliever has ever made over 50 Million, this deal over 60 million, no money left in budget for up grades in outfield .
You’re probably right. But Melancon’s deal will likely be in the neighborhood of 4/60 whereas Jansen’s will almost assuredly be around 5/85.
What money left, expect a dumpster dive pickup in the outfield .
Peter Bourjos (nice first name on that guy:-)
Aren’t you rooting for a Mac/Parker Showdown if they will let one of them get 200 PA’s?
We don’t want to get Duvalled again.
Bochy will never give them a honest long look, they have no chance with the Giants !
The Duvall myth spreads.
Exactly…there are parallels but everyone seems to think they are identical players for some reason.
I just don’t get this Duvall craziness. Sure he might be a good young player, but he’s not a savior. He hits 26 HR the 1st half, great, but he hit 7 the second half, and struggled. The league figured him out, it would seem. Maybe he adjusts, maybe not, it’s still to be determined.
But…but…but he’s the greatest power hitter since Barry Bonds! I can’t believe you traded him for nothing!
Yes he is , no Giant player has hit 30 HRs since Bonds, but you like CC , like slappies !
I am not a slappy crazy. I was one of the conductors on the complain train about the Giants lack of power last year. My poking fun at this trade is because people think Duvall is now an elite MLB power hitter. He had two good months and one average-ish month. He had a terrible second half. He has tools, but I’m not sold that he’s arrived as an elite MLB power hitter. This will be a huge year for him. If he repeats anywhere near 2016 he will make a lot of money for himself. But also don’t forget, MLB has turned away from all or nothing slugger types (I know Duvall’s D graded out well though). For example, Chris Carter hit 41 HRs (41!) and was non-tendered by the Brewers. Power matters, but it’s not *all* about power.
Duvall, did what he did last year in MLB, pretty much every year in the Minors , he is, what he is .
You can’t really be saying his MiLB means much toward his MLB career. That’s just irrational given the number of guys who flame out up in the Bigs. Wish him luck, enjoy his 1.5 months of success, hope he adjusts and stays, but don’t sentence the poor guy to carry water for your cockamamie view of the game of baseball.
Facts are like fizzles for some.
It’s true. Just ask the other Pence.
You do not get CC, he thinks Duvall had a bad year, he is not into 33 HRs, and 103 RBI, prefer’s a slap hitter that goes the other way and walks a lot .
Perhaps, but this will be the ultimate test for the Giants. They don’t like “overspending” and they don’t like playing young OFers. Which one do they dislike more? I bet they eschew paying big money for an OF and give Mac/Parker (and possibly even Slater) a chance. They can make a trade at the deadline if they don’t fill the void. Just need to keep the fingers crossed that Pence has a full year of health.
I think the Giants could consider bringing in an OFer on a one-year deal (only) for depth and in the event of injury, and/or to move Span to LF and give Span/Pence regular days of rest. But the emphasis will be on giving Mac/Parker regular playing time.
Love the Austin Slater reference. You got to get into MyGuy™ this time; he is one that has been raising his stock steadily. His wRC+ went from 108 at Richmond in 2015 to 137 at Sac in 2016. He plays 2B also.
I’m in if somebody does all the points computations for me hahaha. Sounds like a complex scoring system but you all seem to have a lot of fun with it. I’m rooting really hard for Slater. He seems like he could potentially be in the mold of a fellow successful Stanford outfielder (although he plays 1B too), Stephen Piscotty. I anticipate seeing Slater in 2017 and I’m very much looking forward to it.
Oh yeah … you just pick YourGuys™ and I keep the names straight and look up the raw data. 22sSweetSwing crunches the numbers at the ASB and end of the season.
They dont need any other bp pieces
I wouldn’t mind a proven veteran set-up guy, to help mentor. Heck I would consider Romo. I think there is more than enough talent down there, especially with the ninth settled, but Strickland has the potential to be dominate or scary or both.
Yeah, wouldnt mind but dont need
btw, that fellow on the far right in the Panik wedding photo is reportedly Al Hrabowsky, jr
who?
Breaking CSN: The Giants got their guy!
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal
Ken Rosenthal 42sec ago:
Source: Melancon deal with #SFGiants expected to be four years, $60M-$65M.
It had to be done.
Per MLBTR, 4/62. That’s almost *exactly* in line with market projections. Fair deal in this current environment.
It’s exactly in line with Ryan’s prediction.
Woot!!!! Casilla Later, Concede-a-tater!!!
Meanwhile, down South:
“The Dodgers announce the signing of free agent LHP Rich Hill to a three-year contract.”
That would be Rich “over the” Hill?
It’s all about health. If he stays healthy it’s a pretty solid deal. Problem is he hasn’t stayed healthy and he’s pretty old. I still think, given the dearth of options on the market, it’s a solid move for them. Although this move gives me more confidence that they are not going to make a move for Sale. If that’s the case then it’s a *great* move.
Well yeah. The Nats I hear are pushing hard for Sale too.
He is 37 — that is really old for a starter to get a three-year deal. of course he hasn’t pitched that many innings since he is always hurt. Starting pitching is really expensive this year as there isn’t much on the market.
For about the same AAV as Melancon.
I hear 3 years, $48 million. That’s a lot for someone who might give you 120 innings a year due to health setbacks.
And the closer with his 60ish innings of work. Crazy money!
OK by me if that one, like Holliday’s with the Yankees, turns into a stupid deal.
That makes Mark the SSSSSSSale of the Century!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gak_OVaTOc
Loved that show as a kiddo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An4uDegHB8s
Now we can watch the Dodgers try and address their closer situation. Dear Santa, please make them lose out on all the good closers.
Chapman seems destined for the Yankees and the bright lights, so you could be right.
I predict that they get it done with Jansen. Too much to lose by not doing so.
And Chapman signs with the Yankees.
As for Mr. Holland, Red Sox.
Red Sox already have Kimbrel don’t they?
No problem. Holland may not be up for closing right away anyhow. As long as he gets paid former closer rates, no problemo.
That’ll make for a nice 1-2 combo; much like Beck/Hernandez in late ’97.
Nice. Old school!
I bring it when I can.
I wonder if we’re going to get a photo of Melancon in the Giants’ wellness room, with bottles of OTC pain relievers on a shelf in the background?
Olney reporting, despite twitter photos, Melancon to the G’s is done.
Just for you Peter:
Joel Sherman 14min ago:
#SF Giants did not go top of market for Chapman/Jansen instead do Melancon now will pivot to try to find power in LF#SF.
I feel as though I am a banquet table and wanted a specific meal (Melancon)…which has now been served. Yet I am still craving something else to satisfy this hunger… :-))
See Joel Sherman’s tweet. Will that do?
That helps, but what will the “power in LF” dessert be?
Not Cespedes, not Holliday, not Steve Pearce…
Got your crystal ball working, eh?
The load’s on Williamson and/or Parker. Here’s their break, a straight competition, no one blocking you. Figure it out, or fish. What else can a player who is hungry ask for.
If he is so hungry why isn’t he playing winterball?
Ask him, my guess rehab, but I’m just speculating.
How Williamson and Parker were given playing time down the stretch makes me think the Giants prefer somebody else and that Mac/Park are fallback plans.
Birds in the hand rule.
Pence? It is the wine baroness’s idea to shift HP, put Mac into right, and get a 4th OF who can back up in CF as well as the other spots.
They desperately need a back up CF. Gorkys will do in a pinch, but he should be organizational depth in Sac. Someone like say Cutch, who could start in LF, and shift to CF when Span needs a day is ideal.
They aren’t desperate for anything. have you not paid attention to who was in the outfield and on the bench when they were successful? Now, they will look silly having spent a ton on their closer and not having a solid bench as insurance but hey that is the way they like to gamble.
Given Span’s injury history you need to assume you need to cover 40 – 50 games in CF. I don’t think its a good idea to assume Gorkys Hernandez despite his year in AAA is the best bet to provide a replacement .330+ OBP while covering CF. To me that is ‘desperate’. Especially considering the fact they are talking about an essentially rookie platoon in LF. One injury, Pence, Span and the OF situation is “awwww sheeeeeit.”
To me bringing back Blanco as insurance, or picking up someone like Jay is a must. I prefer going and getting Cutch, but you need someone to be able to give MLB ABs in CF.
~YMMV.
You are preaching to the choir Anti. I’m just posing what I feel is their reasoning for not having a strong bench or decent LF all season.
Would you care to see our power-hitting dessert cart?
JD Martinez?
Yes…but that doesn’t provide long-term hunger satisfaction.
Have a Snickers 🙂
Have you had any of the Christmas time Peppermint Ice Cream with Candy Cane chips in it? Good stuff!
As long as the brand new newlywed Panik is not involved in any trade.
Congrats Joe! Your honeymoon will be in Detroit.
No that would be awful. Untouchable, like Elliot Ness. Or is it Al Capone?
Go to your corner for the rest of the day.
I heard his wife demanded a no-trade clause as well…
Could be. That would be a one-year only deal.
Where there is smoke, there is probably something smoldering.
The obstacle is the Tigers asking Evans for more than he is willing to give. But I think the Giants really like Martinez as a fit in the middle of the lineup.
So do I…..
Expen$ive rental agent.
probably but think about how he would grow to love it here. They would be motivated to keep him based on their lack of young outfielders (or should I say lack of willingness to play youngsters).
For me the Martinez chatter is setting up a deadline deal if the Mac/Parker experiment implodes and the Tiggers find themselves more than 5 behind Cleveland and KC.
But I worry how much a trade would cost the Giants.
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 54s55 seconds ago
#Tigers officials telling teams that they are not as motivated to make trades as it appeared when offseason began. @MLB @MLBNetwork
Nice posturing.
exactly what I was thinking
Just the opposite, guys like Scout that throw up fake trades, the Tigers are owned by a very old man that wants to win it all before he dies, he is not going to approve a rebuild , not trading Verlander, Caberra, Martinez, just signed Upton and Zimmerman , in it to win it !
Great point, PJ
they are way over budget!
Dude, one of these years, you need to attend the Winter meetings and report in real time…seriously. How much fun would that be?
It’s always fun hanging out at the Gaylord.
Do you think the Buccos will deal their franchise superstar this week?
that one has me going Babbitt. Like GG said, he IS the Buccos….I know many are saying he’s toast, but sometimes bad years are just bad years. For the sake of great Pitt fans, I hope they keep him and he rebounds
I can’t any longer (post-Melancon) see Cutch going to the Giants, but maybe still to the Nats. Whatever happens, I do hope Cutch bounces back and has quite a few more years in him. Good things should happen to good people.
p.s. I like your idea of Footy being “our man at the winter meetings” very much!
He’s heading somewhere and somebody is going to pay the prospect price of a guy that is far from toast.
i’m not craving anything else. i wanted melancon, and got him. now, let’s give mac a shot in left, and i’m ready to start the season..
NO!!!!!
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 2m2 minutes ago
Big WBC news: Sources say BusterPosey is on @USABaseball provisional roster for @WBCBaseball and is likely to play in tournament. @MLB
please let that be false and if it isn’t let him only play the barest minimums of games.
I think they should overload the roster with Cubs players, just like the All Star game. It’s only fair.
Bryant, Rizzo, Russell, Lester…..
great idea!!!!
Pray for early elimination.
Brandon Crawford is on the provisional roster too, right?
Yep. There’s another “NO!!!!!”
Both those guys better not play an inning for Bochy in the spring.
Provisional doesn’t mean definite.
Did Casilla get his citizenship? Just make him closer, and be out in 3
Getting ready to tip the waitresses…
What’s the worry?
No reason to play in this. It seems to be ending anyway and other countries take this waaaaaaaaaay more serious. No need to risk injury over an exhibition tournament.
Let Trevor Brown play. he could use the reps.
I want Andy back.
He can hit better but his work behind the plate leaves plenty to be desired.
Wheel Sea.
Said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw.
Send him to the WBC instead.
Spoken like a true fan
2011 is still fresh in my mind. No Buster is not a good thing for the Giants.
yeah, but that was an anomoly season. A player can get injured peeling a potato.
Hello all, it’s been a while since I’ve posted on this forum.
MARK MELANCON!!!
Which reporter is at the Winter Meetings for the Mercury News?
SJMN started a collective front end to their reporting, a couple weeks after they blew up GE. I just checked at http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/san-francisco-giants/ and can see a story by Dan Brown on Melancon. So it isn’t Baggs, apparently.
Thanks, 610nm. Dan Brown’s report includes this quote from Chris Stewart about Melancon:
“Whenever we get to two strikes, guys know the curve is coming, and they still can’t hit it. They still can’t lay off it, either. It starts at their belts and falls in the dirt.”
“Baggs enters free agency after a rough 2016, with a dwindling set of Editors vying for his eroding skills. The Daily Iowan appears the frontrunner in the sweepstakes”
I’m okay going with Dan and Carl. Personally, I would love it if we had Carl fulltime and they would re-open the blog. Nothing against Greek, but I always loved Carl’s contributions and interactions over the years. I would have to go to both spots where now I am here only.
Rough only for those wanting to read writers who are fans more than journalists.
no one does the Dog Hydrant dance on jokes quite like The Oracle
Daily Iowan makes sense for Baggs. He went to Northwestern and the Cubs Triple A affiliate is in Des Moines.
I’d like to see someone like Tyler Kepner from the NYTimes move out here. Only trouble is even though the Giants are world class, the newspapers in the Bay Area barely qualify for fish wrap. Example.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/sports/baseball/baseball-labor-deal-all-star-game.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fbaseball&action=click&contentCollection=baseball®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=5&pgtype=sectionfront
Tim Kawakami 30min ago:
Melancon’s WHIP last three seasons: 0.87, 0.93, 0.90. He’s very, very, very good.
I’ll run Casilla’s for comparison (‘14,15,16):
0.86, 1.3, 1.2
Romo’s:
0.95, 1.06, 1.08 (more situational)
how about Jansen’s?
you got it!
1.1, 0.78, 0.67.
He’s reallllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyy gooooooooooooood!!!!!
Look at the Giant’s numbers. They have Jansen’s number.
and Chapman’s
Comes from being slappy maybe.
interesting. Here’s Zach Britton’s:
0.90, 0.99, 0.84
& since you were about to ask, Chapman’s:
0.86, 0.89, 0.83
Another stat and reason to like Melancon: only 3 HR last year. Casilla….8!! (And I think 3 just to Lamb alone)
Looking up that stat on Casilla does make me feel a bit sad. He put up some great numbers for the Giants, shame how things ended.
True, didn’t realize this but his ERA in the playoffs is under 1. For all the troubles during the regular season, the man did his job when the lights were the brightest.
Romo too, his whip in his prime was out of this world , because he never walked people, pin point control !
Romo in 2011: 48IP, 70K, 5BB. Just awesome.
Is that per 9 innings, or 9th inning?
Those two shouldn’t be a whole lot different, for a true closer.
I realized that as soon as I posted it.
Too much coffee today, big B?
My oldest just got back from Hawaii, so I made Kona this morning. I had delusions of beautiful weather and forgot reality for a spell.
I’m working on some sencha, these drinks and Melancon on the side are bliss.
Can’t handle it. It all tastes like boiled sticks to me… and for someone whose only taste is in his mouth, that’s important.
Tea is much bigger in other parts of the world – seemingly from the Caucasus to the Marianas trench.
no worries, amigo.
Hang onto Sergio!
no room at the inn.
Roberto Bomberto Bobby Evans – Thank you for getting er done.
Welcome MM
http://www.sacbee.com/sports/mlb/san-francisco-giants/article118964043.html
MM is a popular monogram for the Giants – in recent history. Matt Moore, Mike Morse, Mighty Mouse…
Mike McCormick
Does Mike Murphy count?
absolutely
Milt May!!!
There were/are more BB’s in Giant’s lore that we can count …
KNBR is reporting the Melancon signing, too. Early Christmas for TWG.
Once again, the front office gives Bochy what he needs. Let’s see what Bochy does with it.
IMO Evans has done an excellent job since taking over as GM. There are always items to nitpick about that others will do. But the guy has been a tremendous GM. Signed Samardzija and Cueto who were great last year, particularly Cueto. Traded for Nunez who provided much needed speed, a little pop and great D. Acquired Moore who was absolutely dominant when the Giants needed him most. While he paid a steeeeep price for Will Smith, he now looks like a great RP and is under control through 2019. And now goes out and fills the Giants biggest need with the guy everyone wanted. As you said, the pieces are there for Bochy, time to take back the NL West.
I think Will Smith is going to be a nice bullpen piece, too.
I liked that trade when it was made too bad Bochy never figured out he is not a LOOGY.
Samardzija is great if you’re the opposing hitter and can hit HRs.
He had a few terrible months. But he finished the year with over 200 IP, an ERA of 3.85, a WHIP of 1.20 and put up 2.7 WAR. That’s pretty damn good. He stunk in his playoff start, which was disconcerting, but even if he wasn’t “great” he was definitely “good.” And you’re being disingenuous if you don’t recognize his contributions last year.
I was just making a joke. He’s fine as a third or fourth starter.
I think it’s a bit misguided to eliminate Brian from the mix, just yet.
Baseball is a game built from the bottom up on failure. We KNOW you have played so think back on how you and your teammates were the X factor in losing and winning games. In Pro ball that is the reason Head Coaches are called Managers. They manage the feelings and psyches of spoiled players that have almost everything done for them. That’s why Managers get into the Hall of Fame and not the word coaches.
TO has trust issues that rival those of Bruce in the 9th inning of game 4
Is there a point in there, somewhere? Are you saying that Bochy’s failures in 2016 are part of the foundation of the game?
“Let’s see what Bochy does with it”
Players on last years team – had they done their collective jobs and executed their pitches – then Bochy would have obtained too much credit; As it were he got much of the blame. Bochy does not play in the field. There ARE NO assurances that doing everything your way vs what Bochy did – would have changed any of the results.
Bochy made some extremely boneheaded decisions. His job is to put players in positions to give them the best chance of succeeding. If you’re dumb enough to let Casilla face Jake Lamb in a critical situation, after it’s been made clear that Lamb own Casilla, you can’t just say that Casilla didn’t do his job. It’s a job that he never should’ve been asked to do.
You, a savior. I’m surprised.
Wrong, A Managers job is to utilize match-ups and the player needs to uphold his end of the bargain. Bochy does not swing a bat or throw a pitch.
So Casilla-Lamb was a good matchup for the Giants?
The outcome was not. I imagine prior meetings between the two were different. Wotus holds the black binder for Rags and gives Bochy their input. One person does not make the call.
Ha. For someone who claims to know everything, you know practically nothing.
and you have coined that phrase now about 1000 times. Look INTO the dugout or get a front row seat from Rosens god son so you can upgrade your baseball acumen since you say you played …
MyHotStoveGuy™ 2016
Now officially closed with 12 of us in.
Three of us [me, stevek and PS35] out of the running who said back-up Catcher would be addressed first.
Last two “Firsts” … Which Giant gets dealt ? Which one gets extended and for how much?
Parker and Bum lead our guesses in those two respective areas.
Chapman wants 6 years. Glad the Giants aren’t going down that road.
He may get 6 years.
…with time off for good behavior?
rim-shot
You got exactly what I was saying.
Now THAT’S sarcastic! :o)
Posey playing in the WBC should scare the hell out of everyone on this site. It’s a waste of time. Dude will be worn out by July.
MM will be able to “stick with the girl he brought to the dance” regarding choice of Jersey numbers.
#39 Yankees 2009-10 – Last worn by Roberto Kelly
#54 Houston 2010-11 – Last worn by Romo
#37 Redsox 2012 Kelby wears it. Will take one Mercedes Benz
#35 Pirates 2013-16 Crawford wears it. Will NEVER happen
#43 Nationals 2016 Last worn by Kevin Frandsen
good time to find a new number
Baseball players as a group are way superstitious. I bet he keeps what he wore in DC unless his earlier career number has some type of meaning to it.
Beltran settled for 1 year. Kind surprised. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/astros-to-sign-carlos-beltran.html
He is WAY WAY Hall of Fame bound….He will love hitting there.
I’m thinking Ben Zobrist is building a Hall case as well. He’s been doing some petitioning with these rings.
That would be a large NO…. but I like your gumption.
Yeah, I checked his WAR. He’s at about 41, and you really need to cross the 60 line to be a legit candidate.
Jeff Kent = 56.1
Carlos is at 68 and gaining, BTW
Kent may and probably should get in based on the fact that his power numbers at second base were some of the best ever.
his polling #’s were not looking so hot
Ben Zobrist has zero chance of making the Hall of Fame. He is under 1300 career hits, an OPS under .800 and will be 36. Not even close.
Donald Trump: “not even close. He’s a four”.
hes making the Footy Hall. that’s good enough for Zorilla
On that basis, Javy is a lock!
The Hall needs a loogy!
I hope you’re joking.
See below. I’ve scolded myself. He’s still My Guy and there’s literally nothing you can do to disparage his game.
He’s a good player. He doesn’t come close to being a Hall of Famer.
I think we can agree that he won’t walk through those pearly gates.
But he’ll get some votes and hang around the ballot for a little while.
If Zobrist goes to the hall, my boy Will Clark should have easily been selected in. Maybe it’s my bias but his numbers are stronger than Z’s. Clark quit too early, IMO.
WAR = 52
I didn’t know WAR should be utlimate qualifier. I respect Zobrist’s play, but no way he should get an induction to the Hall.
IMO, the Hall is a joke when only baseball writers get a say, bias and all, and players like Shoeless Joe and Charlie Hustle are omitted.
No, its an estimator. Let’s you know if a player is in the ballpark and has a chance.
Tony Phillip is a nice Zobrist comp. Career WAR of about 47.
Hall doesn’t resonate with feelings greatness anymore. Yeah, the greatest are in, but..
I would still like to see the Giants add overall depth. Add a power bat and backup catcher.
Brandon Moss and Bobby Wilson would do solid.
so would I but that really isn’t their MO. They will get a 1 WAR player in LF and stick with Trevor Brown (they will argue he is experienced now).
Most likely. I’m not complaining, we got our guy and now we can sit back and watch the rest of the market play out.
Then possibly fish out few of the remaining FAs.
“fish out” has a nicer sound than “Dumpster Dive” that gets hung on Sabes … maybe in a friendly manner?
Didn’t like the fact that Posey was being taxed and played in more games last season than he ever did in the pros. I thought Brown was more than capable to play a few more games to give Posey a breather.
CSN right now.
You’re at Cal State Northridge?
Cool. I’ll see you. Let’s get a game of ultimate frisbee going.
Frolf!!
Oh that. That’s kind of weird. But I’m game if you’re playing.
Never.
I know I can turn to CSN and Pavlovic’s monotonous voice if I want to be put to sleep.
I reckon you got your answer, GG!
The #Nationals, taken aback by Bryce Harper’s contract request in early talks, now set to move on after ’18 https://t.co/L4bbm4BjfV
He’ll sign with his hometown Las Vegas A’s
A foundation for that Expansion Team … MLB and Vegas are a match!
Does “A’s” stand for Aces?
It stands for “Oh, SHIT!! No more revenue sharing?!?! We’re outta here”
It was my impression that vegas is a smaller market. would they go to a smaller market?
Vegas is smaller in ways….YOOOOOOGE in other ways regarding “revenue opportunity”. At least, that’s my slot pull analysis
Sports gambling.
A reunion in SF for Haper and Melancon in 2019?
Gag.
I don’t think you can pay one guy that much money and have a winning team.
It will be interesting in coming years when the Cubs have to make the tough decisions to pay their stars. The Giants have done a pretty good job of doing that while continuing to field a competitive team.
Harper needs a few years in Oakland to give him perspective.
Ten years and $400 million…seems reasonable.
From the folks that brought you the Internet, ARPA (that matured into DARPA), we now have IARPA, the intelligence community’s version of advanced research projects. They have developed something that may be of use to the baseball community. It’s called Predictive Analytics. It’s a program sorts through tons of data seeks to develop methods for continuous, automated analysis of diverse existing data to predict future events. Of course, it’s geared toward SIGINT data to predict terrorist events, but why not baseball games and player performance? I think there’s an opportunity here for the BB entrepreneur.
That leaves me out. I don’t think Einstein ever hit a stand up triple but your subject matter is very intriguing.
Holy PECOTA Batman. If your interested, look at In-Q-Tel’s website. It’s sort of Batman’s bat cave.
https://www.thecipherbrief.com/article/tech/predictive-analytics-new-tool-intelligence-community-1092?utm_source=Join+the+Community+Subscribers&utm_campaign=d1ab84c76f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_12_04&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_02cbee778d-d1ab84c76f-122451189
Yesterday, Standing Rock – today, a Closer – what good news will tomorrow bring?
Fraggle Rock.
Think good thoughts 🙂
Not sure you could call them ‘good,’ Scout.
twitter has the diggers still moving in Standing Rock, apparently they will just pay the fine.
Sounds like those company men are just waiting for The Donald to get their wrecking ball swinging again.
Charlie thinks so too:
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a51253/dakota-access-pipeline-protest-win/
“The mood among protesters has been upbeat since the rejection was announced on Sunday afternoon at the Oceti Sakowin camp in Cannon Ball, North Dakota. Activists were seen hugging and letting out war cries in response to the news. With the incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump supportive of the project, activists were concerned a reversal could be coming. “This is a temporary celebration. I think this is just a rest,” said Charlotte Bad Cob, 30, from the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. “With a new government it could turn and we could be at it again.” … Tom Goldtooth, a Lakota from Minnesota, and a co-founder of Indigenous Environmental Network, said he expects Trump to try to reverse the decision. “I think we’re going to be in this for the long haul. That’s what my fear is,” he said.
The God of Hosts smiting Herr Drumpf and Hunter Pence’s crazy ass white-haired uncle with the same bolt of lightening?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6hCMKA9GBU
I’m waiting to see if Lexi will pop up somewhere because….it’s a social media video, of course.
You read my mind, Seõr Victory.
There is nothing quite like the joy of telling your boss to go fork himself……
Giants looking to add Bryce Harper ~ ~ ~ ~ for 2018-19
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/12/05/nationals-bryce-harper-contract-2018-free-agent/94999440/
Angels checking in on Chase Utley – who happens to have a legit case for the Hall. He’s over 60 WAR. Been a big time producer at 2B, a la Jeff Kent. Hmmmmm…
I like the way he plays. Always hard and obviously some times out of control. Baseball controlled the way Utley and Scott Cousins chose to play the game. Both players knew no other way to play. “We” were outraged and rightfully so but that was the only way they knew how to do what they did in a “bat of an eye”…. Matt Holiday also.
Halos should sign Utley, goes along with their 2008 All-Star 1B, they can have the 2B too. Too Bad they didn’t Beltran for the trifecta….
I was wrong Beltran was not an all-star in 2008, but Matt Holliday was…..
He doesn’t have the numbers.
$400 mil and an agent in Scott Boras? I would pass, but what do I know. Depending upon how Parker and Williamson do, they will have one of the oldest outfield starters by 2018-2019. Giants still gotta sign Mad Bum to a huge contract too.
And then there’s MadBum’s deal to do as well.
Giants needs.
Veteran Set-up man – mentor type to soothe nerves and so Melancon doesn’t have to do it alone. Good to have more than one voice.
Back-up CF, who you could also play in RF as Penspanurance
Starting LF with RH Pop. Preferably can field the position, but Pat Burrell play-a-like is OK.
Organizational depth a catcher. Maybe pickup Hector off waivers to stash in Sac?
Did I miss anything?
Will Smith.
Do we get Jazzy Jeff to go with him?
Smith’s reaction to the Giants about the Brewers after last season’s trade deadline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHscdMAG4c
Great scene! Great show. Totally remember every episode.
Bobby can leave the winter meetings and go with what he has on the roster and compete for the Division title – regardless of the what the Dodgers do this winter.
Could he make another pen upgrade? Sure, but he’d have to trade a Law, Strickland, or Osich/Okert in the process.
Back up CF? Like Peter Bourjos? Raj Davis? Ben Revere? Okay. Makes sense.
Starting LF. You’re thinking JD Martinez, arent’ you? Trumbo? Possible, especially J-Mart, but wheel sea if Evans wants to unload Beede or Arroyo to get it done.
I like Martinez over Trumbo. Cutch over them both.
I like Trumbo over JD and Cutch over both
To get a Pat Burrell play-a-like, do they have to have the same size forearms as him? Because I know a couple of my friends’ wives who qualify.
If they can hit a big league curveball… why not?
Not sure if I care much for the news of Buster in the squat for this once proud Republic in the WBC. I think I’d prefer if he devoted his undivided awesomeness to the increasingly separate and sovereign city-state of Esseff and its quest for more gold. Bobby, we’re gonna need to carry a third catcher. Wellington Castillo?
Still proud Republic.
So proud of our recent choices for public office. Very, very proud what our two party system produced for us to choose from; between a pathological liar and an megalomaniac…….
One election doesn’t change the USA’s place in the world.
Tru’ dat
Unless you scare yourself silly thinking about the fellow who’s about to get the nuclear football.
I don’t scare myself.
I think that is overplayed. There are still way too many people between Trump and the guys turning the keys. It is NOT like hitting send on a tweet.
Let’s hope you’re right.
Checks and balances. Hopefully it’ll come into play (and a lot) in the next 4 years.
I don’t often agree with John Oliver, but I did appreciate his advice to the left after this last election. I think Michael Moore had some cogent analysis too which was scary. I think this is a good wake up call to the progressives that America is about managing to Nixon’s “silent majority” than worrying about what activists put up on twitter.
I’m afraid there are no ‘checks’ left in the equation.
Okay, Forty-Six Percenter
Beef!
I’m more interested in the A’s Khris Davis’ qualifications for Team Mexico.
MyGuy Khris Davis
Sad day… some of the musicians killed in the Oakland fire last week.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/here-are-the-victims-of-the-oakland-warehouse-fire?utm_term=.umLwep8Vx#.ohM7ylk2q
Oh, God.
Very gruesome. A friend of mine just flew into Oakland from Boulder because three of her former art students have not “shown up”.
After the grief, heads will roll due to code violations and the city not following up on past code violations. There was NO staircase to the second floor – they put pallets on top of pallets in order to climb to floor two. 🙁
That’s sad to hear Clutch.
F.A.
Down the street from my grandma’s crib. The place was a death trap and neglected and it’s easy to point fingers, but right now mourn the loss of the victims. There will be time to sort out what happen.
http://abc7news.com/news/ex-employees-say-ghost-ship-founder-disregarded-fire-hazard-warnings/1638649/
SMH
Got to develop the kids at all these levels – especially – that Jonah Arenado youngster.
SacTown – http://www.scout.com/mlb/giants/a.z?s=316&p=8&c=2&yr=2016&nid=313287
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Green Jacket Town – http://www.scout.com/mlb/giants/a.z?s=316&p=8&c=2&yr=2016&nid=313300
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Eno Sarris on Melecon http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/giants-make-obvious-move-sign-mark-melancon/
I just read that, pretty interesting, warts and all.
Just be rock solid for two more years. That’s all Giants need. That pretty much defines their winning window, IMO.
That is what I’m thinking too. I’m greedy and want 3 actually.
if we can get 3 of his average years out of him, 2 more championships is not out of the ????? that would mean 5 for the decade. not bad..
agree!!!!
The Giants have a closer the Giants have a closer the Giants have a closer.
I do believe.
Sung in the voice of Russ Hodges.
“W e l l – that’s right Lon….”
Retailers in San Francisco rejoice as national news agencies report that someone in within the city can now close. Too bad it won’t be until after Christmas.
THE Contract http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/making-sense-melancon-and-contract-doesnt-matter
Clark Ejected Twice
http://www.closecallsports.com/2016/12/non-video-abl-ejections-clark-ejected.html
Melbourne’s 11-inning victory in Game 1 of the Aces-Bite doubleheader wasn’t televised, but featured two ejections, including one we would have especially liked to see.
Adelaide also logged one ejection two games later, which we would really liked to have seen, in which Rangers prospect LeDarious Clark allegedly charged an opposing ABL player after Clark’s time at bat.
New Post: http://fe0.84e.myftpupload.com/giants-offseason-news/giants-sign-mark-melancon-to-four-year-deal-for-62-million/
Per Pavlovic: Bobby Evans said Giants are already in the tax after Melancon deal. That’ll impact how much more they spend going forward.
Id actually be fine with Mac in Lf. Power, good eye and takes his walks. Defensively he isnt bad either and most of all he’s cheap. I think Macs primed for a good season. F the platoon with JP he’s not worthy imho.