With BCraw and Buster playing for Team USA in the World Baseball Classic, The Giants will showcase more playing time for players like Nick Hundley, Trevor Brown, Jimmy Rollins and Gordon Beckham. Today the Giants face the Rockies at 6:05 Pacific in Scottsdale.
Bleacher Report just published an interesting article on the most disappointing Giants in Spring Training so far. The list may surprise you. Maybe Matt Moore has not been that sharp and Hunter Pence has looked a little ragged but Spring Training is mostly nonsense when it comes to stats, especially with regards to the Giants Won-Loss record.
The goal is to keep your players healthy, get them in prime game shape and evaluate young players for needed roster spots, in that order, as I see it.
Tonight at 7 PM Pacific, Team USA takes on Puerto Rico in a huge game for a right to get to the semifinals. It should be interesting.
Pablo, did you watch that Seinfeld video with her?
Not yet – Seinfeld’s not my cup of tea.
You’ll like her in it. It’s the real her.
LOL. I may be one of the few, maybe the only person who never saw a complete episode of Seinfeld.
You are not, CC.
It’s nice to know one is not alone, LOL.
“Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid… ” Check this one out.
It’s not our first dance with Boris. https://warisboring.com/russia-tried-to-use-martin-luther-king-jr-s-assassination-to-start-a-race-war-9eeab04f1b82#.f40cdqtms
Have you read the most recent Cipher Brief? Check out Dead Drop.
Check out both. They’re related.
I haven’t either, although I did see his stage act.
And I’ve watched all of the “Cars/Coffee” bits. It’s a fun insight to the people he’s had on, some of whom I never heard of.
I think I saw one or two of those, but it was the guest not him that made them so. To me, he’s just not amusing.
No time. Too busy looking at graphs.
I should’ve known.
Hey, don’t be messin’ with my Wife-in-Law.
Crowd for Lefty’s Address to TWG
Crowd for my address to TWG
Narcissist in camera.
There’s a guy holding a sign that says “Not My Blogger”…
While I agree with the whole “keep the players healthy” thing and the that Spring stats don’t mean much on the record books, I do think, having played the game and as an avid sports fan, there is something to say about momentum and consistency.
Sure it’s one thing to say the WBC has gotten in the way and having two of arguably the best players on our team and the NL as a whole away from the team has not allowed the team to field their best, the Giants have looked pretty average. It’s easy for the fans to look at the Bum starts and say they look good.
They have not been consistent, and while fans on this blog claim the bench “will be the best in years” what the hell does that mean? Sure it’s better, since it’s pretty much been crap fro two years. A little improvement has some dancing on the streets.
The GIants, as I’ve said should be competitive with the top 4 pitchers, and can field a starting 8 as good as anyone, but it slides downhill from there, the overall team talent is thin compared to other teams looking to go deep into the post season.
So it’s easy for a fan to claim the ST record doesn’t mean anything when the record is not so good. I say it’s important for teams to look sharp early.
For example, I’m seeing a lot of these young Yankees right now and the pitching will be filthy plus young talent. They may not win the division, but their sharp ST will provide some confidence going into the season. Of course following Clippard with Betances with Chapman cna make anyone look good.
“I say it’s important for teams to look sharp early.” Not this early. When the flotsam has been cleared out and it’s down to last 30 or so players, we can start to get a decent look at we have.
I can answer that now – jetsam.
Momentum = NO = Diamonds finished first last ST and Cubs 23rd https://tinyurl.com/klz4dap
Consistency = yes = very important
One of MANY ways for a ML hitter to use in his pre-pitch routine. If a hitter does not replicate his routine – he usually will not replicate any success. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6eadee56d4e7e2ec24a907ed946bc9ea38f4ff7ee0d6f9a1fb541173699a6c46.jpg
How long boys dream about baseball https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3ba82cca641a075021f60039e6789cfcee8419574784d5df961c8f2464c3d977.jpg
On deck, pre-pitch routines (at the plate, in the circle, on the bump, in the field)are so very comforting (and burned into my soul)…to this day, Coach…baseball’s routine/discipline orientation is such a wonderful foundation builder (to life)
Does the Giants’ Spring Training record mean anything? It doesn’t look like it.
I would say, the 2008 season was a bad year and they were bad in ST, they were a good team and had a good record 2009-2014, they had a bad year in 2013, but had injuries, the last few years they have bad in ST, because they slow played lots of players, and Peavy and Cain were getting crushed .
Thank you. Some folks refuse to learn
To make the table interesting, what was the 162 game season W/L record each year for comparison sake. You might even generate the ST and seasonal win percentage.
I think we all know how the Giants did in the regular season. Many are aware that they won the World Series in 2010, 2012 and 2014, and made the post season last year. Even without a graph, it’s pretty clear that spring training record doesn’t correlate very well to regular season success.
They had a good or great record in ST 2010,2012, 2014, too, really bad year in 2008, witch was a very bad Giants season .
Most people forget that the Giants had the best record in baseball in the first half last season
Only a few teams in MLB were worse in the 2nd half though, offense tanked in the 2nd half besides bad bullpen .
Grist for the mill, from Brisbee:
God that guy’s funny: “2013 – 2016: Bumgarner is a large pitcher who eats hitters and spits out the bones on the side of the road as a warning to other hitters.”
Anybody ever wonder how OPS is obtained.
I have foud this little known equation to be very accurate as well:
Slap Hitter + Poor Arm + Awful Fielding + No Power = S + P + A + N
A vote in the affirmative. The calculation OPS is little known, but it gets tossed around like it was someones favorite tattoo.
You too? Give it a freaking break.
S + P + A + N detractors:
He’s a marginal pie thrower at this point in his career. I wish it weren’t so. Maybe this year he goes off like a Roman candle. Stranger things have happened.
See above. Gee, I just unblocked you.
LOL. You so kind.
You’re right. The mediocre numbers from last year and horrific Spring start this year don’t tell the real story of his greatness.
As anybody who paid attention saw, he was better after the break -which makes sense because he was just off of 3 injuries in 2015 and played in just 7 games after July 1. If you bother to look at his numbers in 2014 and when did play in 2015, you would stop crapping on him and at least wait 5 minutes into the regular season before you start in again.
I was basing my lemming-like comment on his 2016 numbers, but that aside, I shall grant you the 5-minute cease fire that you requested.
There are moments when Mr. Sarcastic hits one with such perfection that it soars above the clouds and lands deep into the cove….
Cough ~ ~
Your Starting Center-fielder – per – about a zillion knowledgeable baseball people within the ORG.
However you can breathe a sigh of relief for 2018 🙂
He was coming off 3 injuries in 2015, look his numbers for that year when he was able to play. About a zillion knowledgeable baseball people within the ORG understand that. Obviously the proles don’t get it.
They probably thought they were signing the 2014 – 184 hit version but got Grady from Sanford and Son.
Just for parity, wOBA.
Very cool. So when you see this number, what the range like and what’s a good wOBA?
Earlier somebody posted a scathing interview of Krukow’s take on Crick pitching mechanics (can’t find it on csnbayarea – maybe they took it down). I can’t remember anyone in the org ripping one of their own like that, even though Crick hasn’t pitched that badly. His ERA isn’t 9.56, for instance.
You might have thought Krukow paid for Crick’s signing bonus out-of-pocket.
Krukow, as a former Giant AND pitcher, plus the voice of the Giants for many years, has earned the right to make a critique about anyone he wants.
If Crick has issue with mechanics, and he is obviously stuck in AAA, then now is the time for him to improve or move on.
Don;t understand the sensitivity on this blog sometimes, its a professional sport and a business, not your friends and family.
I just fed data into my Blogticulater Pro 2017 and it shows that 77 percent of the GTW users don’t like the Giants, they like bitching about them.
I still think Tejada was a blunder. LOL.
An insignificant one…
I like my uniforms classic, but I do like the green on the Giants St Patrick’s day hat. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d02aba842474484980b0458873ac0edc830b5ef5dfeb0d744bd454fae9152193.jpg
slainte mhaith, E!
I saw some people today with the Mets and Yankees versions, look pretty good on.
Flat Bill ?
it’s a new hat image from New Era hat website. You should know that all new New Era hats come flat billed.
Up to each individual to mold it as they wish, just as a new glove has to be broken in.
Why should I be spelling out the obvious?
Ours are 5150 NE and we wear them like Tony Francona or last night Tony Pena. Not a complete Nerd turn down but nothing pointing to the sky.
Because it allows you to be NY condescending!
What goes around in fashion comes back around . . .
Anyone feeling sorry for Ryan Braun?
They calculate that if he’s being paid for every single hour of every day of spring training and the regular season, he makes $3,623.19 per hour.
Nah – dude can flat our rake though
He should by a leaf blower…he can afford it…not many people still rake
Purple Cough Syrup?
Are you having cliche rejection syndrome?
At the end of the day….
Cain makes more, and I am not feeling sorry for him either, but Fitz is on KNBR, and still putting a dig on Timmy every chance he gets, dude never does his Homework, Cain as a Giant will make 140 Million , Timmy made 99 Million, but he cries about Timmy’s contract never about Cain’s .
Cain ain’t bitchin….
Matt- great Giant
NO problem with that, Fitz might though, he has been Timmy’s biggest hater the last 5 years, and since Cain actually talked to him a few times, Cain can do no wrong !
Hmmm…. No more hazing but this is pretty much an in house call of same same for Jae-gyun Hwang
Really? No more hazing? No more dress-up?
Where ya been? Commish Manfred said NO
Rule mainly is cannot dress up as women anymore .
The pants need to go…..
530pm and his longest walk so far after surgery.
Almost forgot to put this on:
Mine’s nicer – like Timmeh’s, with the orange SF.
I do miss Timmy and Vogelstrong for what they did/meant to the Club’s Success, also the White Shark.
I miss Guillermo Mota for his photo bomb efficiency especially to the SF Front Office and Investor Group https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d57505d04126a4e374aa0fc91817dc3f67248fc7b3bfb4c0210c8cc2b603a828.jpg
But will miss Romo’s timing the most https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6bec9d80bd3ad0607b59f16a930c096a49f0353c6d66dccf5397caee81d6ca21.jpg
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Honorable mention to Kontos https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9337aafce816ff7fdff155deb3d2a5c1f65d2c49f2a9c2be72170a9c639d98c0.jpg
Hall of Fame to the Machine aka Pat the Bat https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/682f21a8d67292f15284c2d8683e6ed3fadb8c0bcf156ce6dc40f5f13e5effb5.jpg
Which SF Giant am I? I say Melancon because the rest have few guarantees.
Peggy Greene from Hillsborough California says “I have a SF Giants player recently signed looking for a 7 month rental. Prefers furnished up to $10,000 per month”. Eric Mahoney from Burlingame wrote 729 Walnut Ave., Burlingame 2 bedroom, 1 bath, hardwood floors, clean, quiet street walk to Burlingame Ave.8 month rental available 4/1/17. Stacy Glynn from Hillsborough wrote Hello. We have a house in Burlingame park area that will be available April 1. It’s a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom. Looking for $7000/month. Jessica Brandwein from Hillsborough wrote: Is he looking for local or open to SF? I have an amazing TOP floor flat in the Marina that is furnished,3BR / 2Ba available now Beautiful, large Marina flat located on the top floor of a three-unit building.
3 bed/2 bath plus office Furnished/unfurnished.Beautiful light-filled, quiet home. Peggy Greene from Hillsborough wrote Hi Ellizabeth, I am a realtor helping out another realtor who is working with the newest member of the Giants’ roster. I am forwarding your email to her and she may contact you directly. Her name is Karen Wong-Curtis. In case she can’t reach you – would you send me your email address?
Make sure to give us all his address and phone number, when you get them.
Will do Officer. And make sure and let me know when the San Jose Floods have subsided as well as that other high profile item regarding Emotional People needing to bring their dogs with them in every store and food establishment. Mayor Sam Liccardo appreciates having such fine Anglo men such as yourself on duty for things like the above as well as the Sierra Lamar Trial.
Daughter in law doing real-estate.
Melancon, but I think an 8 month rental would be more appropriate.
Scherzer will play hurt, and change his FB to do so.
He changed his FaceBook? Ballplayers are superstitious eh?😉
Most are children in big bodies from what little I know.
Aren’t we all?
Isn’t it ironic that his ring figure is injured? I was’t aware he had one of those pesky heavy championship rings.
Scully’s replacement in LA.
Thing is… he didn’t always do it alone. It’s still quite a feat.
Morse in LF tonight, this might be his big test to see if he can play in the Outfield still, and that would give him a good chance to make the 25 man if he can .
Yeah he played outfield in the 1st half of 2014 when Giants had best record in MLB for awhile, so his defense was not a deal breaker then !
I’ll grant you- he never got hit in the head with a fly ball.
You and the WAR crowd will be shocked by this but 90% of fly balls are a can of corn .
I’m not shocked by anything. BTW- I was one of the first, if not the first, to say that he had a good shot to make the team. And I’m for it. You were not for it. And look- he never got bonked by a can of corn either,
Zach Wheeler hopes for the best.
Good Night Allen. Malloy says “hi”
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Car fifty-four where are you..
On the internet
How is the doctor doing with this Aggies shellacking?
Not the doc, but an alumni here. Very proud of the first 12 minutes. Then Cinderella lost both shoes. Their coach’s T didn’t help. Figure it will be a moral victory if the top seed doesn’t double the score.
Then again, we’re the #6 public university in the nation. Academics count.
Hey as a fellow UC member (not Davis, SB) I was rooting for them but Kansas be good.
What is it about March that makes everybody angry?
Who the hell is doing the radio PXP?
Sorry, unbeknownst to me MLB switched me to the Colo broadcast and this guy is horrible.
If you like watching BP I suggest tuning into the Giants game right now.
Matty “the shelton pony” Cainer.
Cain with 2 runs over 2 innings and only 5 hits allowed. On a positive note by giving up just one run per inning he has lowered his Spring ERA.
First game I actually get to see on TV this year, and i tune in to see Cain wearing a silly hat and serving up hits. On the plus side, I am really enjoying the addition of Hundly to the Giants.
Hey….Jazzy is wearing the same damn hat in the dugout.
Cain’s a good dude that is at the end. Treat him well.
The color scheme is good with the orange and all, but it’s a little jarring. I’m Irish, and I live in Dublin, where we do St. Patrick’s Day up BIG, but still.
Cain will forever have a piece of my heart, which is why I don’t like to see him giving up hits.
Fair enough…those caps are appalling.
And yet now I want one to wear in the Dublin St. Pat’s Parade tomorrow.
Isn’t it 2:00AM there?
Dublin, California. East Bay.
“across the pond” sorta.
Depends on your perspective, I suppose.
Although, last year at this time I was in THAT Dublin (or Dooblin, as Matty says). Now that was a truly awesome St. Patrick’s Day.
Cain is amazingly consistent though — one run each inning.
Another benefit is you get to see how the ball is coming out of Cain’s hand and his arm slot.
Not a fan of these green caps. In Chinese culture, if a man wears a green hat, it means he’s a cuckold.
I’m thinking in US culture, if a man wears a green hat, it means his boss told him he had to.
Nah the man doesn’t wear it, but the relatives of prostitutes do. Wearing green hats is the expression of an unfaithful wife or girlfriend.
Can we just cut Cain? Please?
Haha…but no bias, right?
You were calling for Cain to be cut before the first pitch of ST.
yep and he has sucked for a long time. I’m realistic
But unaware of MLB culture. He’s not tryng to suck
He’s tring give him a trophy , along with his 130 Million Dollars!!!
I never said that but perhaps you are making stuff up…
Hey! How are you? Married yet?
Haven’t seen you here lately, Brother.
LOL, I’ve been married for 10 months. Work is killing me.
Atta babe. Hang in there. We’re here as your group therapy.
Too many 9 Inn complete game or 2 to 1 losses when was 19 or 20 yrs old. He deserves to work it out on the 60 day DL. The Matt Cains don’t get “cut”
I am fine with the 60 day DL. Just don’t hand him the 5th spot when he hasn’t been effective for years now. The team has much better options and the Dodgers will be solid again this year.
Trouble with all us fans plus the thousand of fanatics – we do not make the decisions and I bet there are about 75% of the Investors Group that have signed off on it being Matt Cain to start the season.
Just returned after dinner with the family. I’m relieved that Cain is still pitching and there are only 3 runs in the 4th. Sad, but true. Was expecting 5 runs and a new pitcher. Has Morse been challenged?
That would have been better. Even though he has given up eight hits over 4 innings Bochy is looking for any reason to make him the 5th starter which is basically conceding games in April.
Equally sad, but true.
NCAA tournament is more exciting than watching Cain be Cain.
I love Jon Miller
Tapia seems vulnerable to the let-up.
I haven’t seen Cain top 87 on a hot night. There isn’t much left in the arm.
No silly St Patrick’s day hats at the WBC. MLB is obviously missing a marketing opportunity. Would go well with all the blondes on the PR team. The newly blonde, yet still swarthy, Angel Pagan just scored.
Hey genius, St Patrick’s day is an American holiday, plus the MLB ST games featured green hats.
WBC is about patriotic pride for the nations involved.
No one would want the USA to wear an off color during an international event right?
Deep breath. I was mocking the MLB’s penchant to never miss a sale.
Well there’s USA vs Puerto Rico with Pagan leading off with a base hit (and bleached hair) for PR. Pagan just scored. PR 1 USA 0 B1
In aesthetics news….Angel Pagan has blonde hair
Angel Pagan has dyed his hair the same shade as Der Leader!
4 comments in a row about this. It must be horrible.
It’s breaking news.
In the immortal curiosity words of the original Bond, James Bond ” Does the collar match the cuffs?”
Finally figured out that the blonde bearded Carlos Beltran looks a great deal like Cliff Clavin.
Marcus Stroman looks just like Matt Cain!
Who is the Norm on that team?
He’s on Venezuela
The traditional Venezuelan build.
Definitely not Molina, even as a blonde he looks scary.
But who is pitching like Sam Malone?
The USA needs Affeldt
I think the all the hair makeover by the PR team has really gotten into Stros’ head. Total distraction. I’d be pissed.
Puerto Rico. Because I’m Worth It.
Did anyone else see the KNBR bracket of Bay Area sports legends?
You know it’s bullshit and biased when Kevin Frandsen and Tom Tolbert are in the bracket.
Way to challenge the left fielders arm Nolan.
Just don’t challenge his butt…it’s epic ( that’s what Sgbssfg, Lefty and Appalled say)
Ok. I won’t.
Shut up, Molina. You look like a blonde salamander in an softball uniform
I’m glad they gave Pagan some love…
That was a nice hit from Belt. Poor pitcher had his life flash before his eyes.
The bromance abides.
Brandon Crawford is an extremely instinctive baseball player
Do the Giants also employ a professional teeth bleacher?
And a tanning bed in the locker room.
We know not a barber with the manes MadBum, Crawford, Samardjiza and Pagan sported last season.
There is no reason it should, but it bugs the heck out of me that Gillaspie won’t wear batting gloves. I’m always afraid he is going to get blisters with all of the rubbing his hand in the dirt and all. And yet clearly it works for him.
Does it give you bad memories of Moises Alou and what he did to toughen up his hands?
Gillespie is old school. Dude could play 162 games a year then get red hot in the playoffs. Not to worry. He’s a bulldog.
I think there are bigger things going on in the world for you to waste your time thinking about.
Dude…try to be a gentleman
Won’t happen in this lifetime.
Well, gee, I guess ’cause you said so, I won’t spent 24/7 thinking about it anymore.
I guess everybody missed the part where I said, “And yet clearly it works for him.”
Players did fine for quite a few decades without any batting gloves.
I can remember when batting gloves were called golf gloves and only golfers used them. I can also remember when bats were varnished completely. The “Weenie Factor” was invented coincidently with batting gloves. Generally, you only wore one = on your bottom hand.
I can also remember boning bats. I wonder if guys still do that.
Buster will be shot by June. Hope it was worth it.
Because it wouldn’t happen in a normal spring game? C’mon, man
He is platooning with Lacroy, and they are playing like 3 times a week.
Yup…I don’t know why people think these games are somehow more risky than the ones there teammates are playing at camp
GO to Russia, dumbest thing ever posted on this blog , he is not even playing every day , this is his 3rd game in over a week .
My boy Hwang played LF and made a solid effort to throw a runner out at the plate. Glad to see the team is trying to find a way to add him to the Opening Day roster.
They are looking at Hwang, Morse,and Marrero for one spot- it’s possible that none of them will make it. Of the 3, Morse is probably the favorite right now .
Will Little obviously has a anatomically descriptive name. Wow… he’s having a very bad game (again) and is making yet another player pay the price….
Cutch got hosed.
Probably better for team USA , he has looked bad at the plate , people that think the Giants should trade 2 or 3 top prospects for him are crazy , his bat looks slow .
It sounds like Cain had a great performance today, picking up 5 Ks and walking no one over 4 2/3 innings. That’s an outstanding ratio. I’m a glass half full kind of person.
TO, in general, the only time you think a glass is half full is when it’s so full, it’s spilling over the sides.
In the big picture, I feel lucky every day.
I have no hope that cain will be anything other than generally awful this year so i am hoping that he will be as bad as possible so that the team will waste as little time as possible on him.
Nolan Nolan Nolan. Ouch.
Belt would have snagged it.
Puerto Rico has discovered the RTI.
Hosmer looked like Charlie Brown on that flail
Pavlovic was just on the radio saying how the Giants will go with Cain because of his past success. And 3 runs over 4 and 2/3 is not so bad. How bad 9 hits over that span. The Giants need to wake up here. He has nothing left in the arm.
I’m not sure Alex speaks for the team. Cain is a great guy who has earned some rope from those around him….but this organization wants to win.
Alex is the company man, never says or writes anything that might stir the pot.
Schulman and Baggarly both describe Bochy’s reaction as “noncommittal.” I’d say it’s 50-50 right now whether Cain starts the season in the rotation.
Not sure which beat writer to go with, though I know a lot of the guys on CSN are homers like the guy who writes for the Sharks.
I can’t believe Giants coaching staff and management would just go with Cain because of his past success but ignore his current performances.
His past success was a long time ago .
I really do think it’s going to come down to who looks better, Cain or Blach, these last couple weeks. Right now I’d say Blach has an edge because he’s been good except for one bad inning, and Cain hasn’t really had a “good” outing yet–there’s just been “terrible” and “OK, less terrible.” But if Blach has 1-2 more bad ones and Cain pitches like he did last night (“less terrible”), they might let Cain give it one more try.
I don’t really think Beede’s in the mix right now, but it’s not 100% out, either.
Hwang seems like a fun guy. Went to Target to get a St. Patty’s Day ensemble so he’d fit in.
Craw!!! Almost tied it up! Still, at 3rd!
Impressive ab from Crawford. Cruz is nasty
No PH for Harrison , who has not hit in over a year !
But you gotta love the pop coming off our Giants players, huh?
Posey should DH tomorrow in loser goes home game vs the DR, Goldy not hitting, either is Stanton are Murphy .
Well that’s a heart breaker. Not like the Cubs series, but still.
*I can’t find anyone trashing Rollins. Can’t anybody multi-task?
*You can’t handle Cain and Jimmy at the same time? Geez, what a weak ass showing by you guys.
*Pence turned 2 doubles into 2 triples. It’s tough to be the worst defender in the outfield when Morse is one of them.
* Osich got 5 outs in the 9th. It was looking like he’d need to get 7.
* They need to add another position for Arroyo. Like maybe the “Guy who plays in the field for no apparent reason”
* Calixte- now I see what was under his cap, It’s his cat.
*Gorkys- Geez, man. Mike can’t cover his position AND yours.
* OK, I have been nice about this way way too long- Matt and Conor might be the 2 dumbest looking guys in the bigs. I’m not counting Will the Thrill. I think that it was probably the 12 brewskis. Will- get help.
I’m sure some here have already seen this, but I’m linking it anyway. Since it’s updated with each personnel move the team makes, it really handy. Plus it’s really pretty compared to regular charts. Look at some of the varied details of this thing; it may take awhile.
This is the one. I had linked it ways back and 610 bookmarked it. Don’t know of any other site that includes player options in a chock-full table.
I did indeed bookmark that. Good stuff there.
It makes you wonder what kind of spread sheet the front office keeps on players and positions. Contracts of differing lengths expiring at different times, versus changes in players status as the options/arbitration thing plays out, versus a new kid in the pipeline at some position (eg Cutch in Pittsburgh). Even jugggling an injury onto the 60 day list to put someone else on the 40man. Complex!
…and, they’re trying to keep track of other teams’ players too, to find a Marrero or a Hwang.
something tells me that few Excel tabs aren’t enough.
In judging the projections: She will be happy with Rollins, not so much on Cain
Great reference site but one wonders about the expected OD line up.
There is no back up middle infielder with Hundley, Hwang, Gillaspie, Gorkys, and Williamson as the bench (with a 5 player outfield). Parker would be starter in LF. Tomlinson would be at AAA.
Nunez is starting 3B but one would also have Nunez as the only back up 2b and SS so Hwang and Gillaspie would more active at 3B as Nunez would not be full time there..
Twelve player pitching staff with Cain as #5 starter and Blach at AAA and no obvious swing man or back up starter.
“Great reference site but…” But, what? But?
I have no idea what this site (or my post) has to do with the rest of your reply. What does it have to do with anything?
Look a the rosterresource.com site you linked to in your post (which is a very informative site.
Rosterresource identifies a specific 25 man OD roster.
My comments are specific to the “expected OD line up” offered by the link you posted. You may want to look at the link you posted for reference.
An MLB reporter asks on Twitter: With Team USA in a must-win game in San Diego tonight and Kershaw scheduled to start in AZ for the Dodgers, why can’t he just throw those innings for Team USA, instead?
You can ask the same question about Bumgarner’s stellar six innings on Wednesday (when Team USA was playing VZ), but the difference is that the Giants have already contributed their starting catcher and starting SS to the cause. No Dodgers on Team USA, and the ones that were on Team Mexico (AGon and Romo) are out already.
I’m OK with Buster and BCraw coming home to finish ST.
You are Selfish, it is all about You !!!
You are Silly. I’m as selfless as anyone here. OK, I’m not as selfless as Chef.
I am sure Buster and Brandon do not want to lose tonight, they are enjoying themselves playing for the USA, and playing well too, Buster has played in 3 games since March 10th, so is not getting worn out , like you and the paranoid DrLefty think .
OK, Splay Boy, Buster took a very hard foul tip to the high inside of his right thigh that ricocheted off his cup. I know it can happen anywhere, but I wish the other catcher had been catching. I’ll bet Buster does too.
He could have gotten hit by a foul tip in Giants camp as well, are gotten beaned by a A ball pitcher, get over yourself !
Beckham has asked to to be the front catcher – he’ll take all the foul tips so Buster won’t get hurt. He won’t even ask to borrow Buster’s Catcher’s Cup.He’ll go it cupless. You wanna talk selfless? Now THAT is selfless, my friend.
No, you had it right. I don’t care about Buster and Craw. I’m just anti-USA. Better have me exported!
I’ve always been proud of my selflessinosity.
As you are with your glibnosiness.
You will be cheaper to deport, given your proximity to the border.
Is it me, or does Buster look like he’s added some muscle to his upper torso? His arms looked like he’s been chopping with Bumgarner all winter. 20+ HRs?
Kershaw got the loss in his start.
I spied Enrique Hernandez catching a ball in centerfield for the unincorporated US territory, Puerto Rico. Alex Verdugo was also on Team Mexico and I thought Julio Urias was supposed to pitch had Mexico advanced. Former Dodger, current Ray, Jose De Leon is supposed to join team Puerto Rico. Also, Kenley Jansen will be given the ball late for Bam-Bam’s Team Netherlands.
As for punctuation, where do you stand on the Oxford comma?
I am for the Oxford comma. Never knew it had a name, until one of my friends started advocating for it.
Is seems pretty essential to separate the last two items on a list, otherwise seems the last two get grouped together, like “bacon and eggs”. Punctuation and formatting are tough. I struggle with semi-colon usage; should I be using it now?
BTW, thanks for the well wishes on Thursday. Even though I had to re-write and totally salvage someone else’s report, it turned into a good day. Kept the momentum going and finished a draft of a report yesterday.
It is more fun to figure things out, than to write about them. I always need some encouragement to finish the report, but it is a great feeling when over with. It is hard to work on someone else’s paper, isn’t it?
I’m not really the person to ask about grammar. Translating Cicero as a sophomore taught me how to write extremely long sentences, with subjunctives and clauses and so on. The semicolon, colon, and dash are all ways to string things together, with a longer “pause” than a comma. Now, when I write, I’m usually trying to see where to split a sentence into two different ones, with a period. And that’s often the best.
My sister with the English masters told me to get Hodges’ Harbrace Handbook which has gone through a zillion editions and lists a small army of English teachers who’ve contributed. So, basically it is a handbook by the Grammar Police. But it is easy to look up the “rules” in it, and they seem reasonably flexible about changes in the language.
This mini-thread reminds me of my substantial pet peeve with incorrectly spoken English. I am a great admirer of our language–the international language–and I was fortunate to be taught at a young age by good teachers. I take pride in being well spoken.
I cringe when I hear phrases like “where he at” or “he ain’t said nothing”, both of which I heard yesterday. Here in the South this seems more prevalent. I’ve had off-line conversations with Dr. Lefty about this, and she reminds me that English is a constantly evolving language.
In other words, get used to it. I’ll try to do so.
DrLefty and Bapah are anti American, I am going to call the Donald and have them exported !
Include me. I’m pulling for the Dominicans.
At least the Puerto Ricans are US citizens!
It’s far more important to the other 4 countries still alive in this. Be happy to see any of them win it.
Uh, so what, Foots?
(I’m nice today. I didn’t say, ‘Who is care?’) ;o)
LOL @ “exported.”
The new international trade negotiations might hinder Peter’s plans
Some of my books have sold well internationally, and I’ve keynoted a few international conferences over the years. Does that count as exporting me?
The price was recently reset at $874.38, and the Dr.Lefty International Conference Appendix (LICA) that was added in seems to be holding up final approvals…stay tuned
Be careful going to overseas conferences, one can never be sure one won’t be ported and relieved and never make it back.
I think we could get a lot for you Lefty!
Yeah, with the exception of Jansen, none of those guys are everyday All-Star players like Posey and Crawford…and now it appears that Cueto will start for the DR if they make the final.
whoa – did not know that Cueto was still in. Good for DR; nails, spikes, pins and needles for Giants fans.
Yes, considering how little he’s pitched in competition this spring, it’s not ridiculous to worry he’d overdo it in a championship game.
I have to say, that would be awesome.
I’m firmly pro-Oxford comma. Not even wishy-washy on it.
That’s nice, great, and all that jazz.
Hey BroCuz, are you in on Rollins or KT? I’m of the opinion that every possible thing Rollins brings is redundant at best… PH? Gillespie (LH) , Kelby or Hundley (RH). SS? Kelby. Veteran presence? Poseycrawfordbumgarnerspanpencemelancochundleyandmore
I can only read the writing on the wall. And although most have been biased against his case, it sounds as if any objective observe would declare that he has a minimum amount of petrol in the tank.
Kelby and Conor should handle all back up duties. Nunez can also play SS, can’t forget that. Anybody else that wants to rent an apartment in Sacramento can check in anytime they like.
Jimmy can rent Boogie’s place. It’s available
(But then we have to worry about J.C. running off for a couple weeks.)
An excerpt from a review of the new book “Leo Durocher: Baseball’s Prodigal Son”:
Stoneham fired the Lip at the end of the 1955 season. During the last game of the year, Durocher pulled Mays into the tunnel behind the dugout .”He placed both hands on his shoulders and said: ‘ I want to tell you something. You know I love you, so I’m prejudiced. But, you’re the best ballplayer I ever saw…Having you on my team made everything worthwhile.’ ” Mays wept.
It’s a little dusty in here, too.
Reminder that we all have one week to submit our final My25ManGuy™ … March 25 at midnight AZ time.
So anytime before then post your final picks in response to one of my posts [and therefore I get notice of it; otherwise I may miss it. If I don’;t confirm it, I did not get it.]
Example: I am dropping JRoll [lousy ST] and going with Parker and Mac [no need to pick who starts over the other] both making the team.
Both are not making the team, Giants front office Evans and Sabean + Bochy have said want veterans on bench , young players getting reps in AAA .
You may be right but they seem locked in to Conor, Hundley and Gorkys so one INF’er (KT) is needed and one OF’er … What Vet OF’er has been that impressive? … Rugg got 12 of the 24 votes from us but he has not been that good. Marrero and Morse are too weak in the OF.
There is a reason Marrero and Morse and even Hwang and Beckhem are getting reps in LF , they all happen to be RH too you notice
The reason that they are getting some reps in LF is because they have to decide if they keep 5 outfielders. Otherwise they are out.
They are going to keep 5 Outfielders, Gorkys for depth in CF, and the other backup for pop off the bench and to face Lefthanded pitchers if Parker struggle with them .
If Parker struggles with southpaws, Mac will be up, if he isn’t already here.And, BTW, Gorkys is not helping himself.
Yes on Gorkys … if he does not rebound here the Giants could watch for a good CF’er with some base stealing skills that gets cut by someonelses camp … maybe a Blanco or something; he has a winning tradition I think, right?
Did you see Gregor’s triple this week? He’s in fantastic shape.
No I did not but it seems the D’Backs are using him at lead-off most box scores I see. Maybe he is a strong keeper for their 25-Man?
The Vacuum would be fine with me too as he is not on KC anymore.
I don’t know their roster, but they’d be nuts to let go of him.
Who’s ‘The Vacuum,’ Cain?
There was no reason to assume that Hernandez could be a legitimate big league player. In fact, he should’ve been considered a longshot. They didn’t plan very well with regard to CF.
Gorkys, so far is not hitting but Bruce loves his glove, like I posted above Front office do not want young players rotting away on bench, so Mac in AAA to start the year, and Veterans getting reps in LF .
You might be right, anything is possible 😉
But Mac and Parker would both get plenty of playing time if they stay- and I think that they might. What the FO says can change in a minute. Unless one of them goes toes up in the next 2 weeks, I think both will be here.
Gotta have a backup CF…I’d just as soon have Ruggiano if he looks like he can still hit at all.
Only saw him in one game and he was unimpressive – and slow.
There’s an assumption that Gorks is the backup CF, no?
If the Gorks flops, Gints got a big problem. (Someone brought this up last week.)
Well,someone was wrong. They would be better off without him. But I know where you are going with this.
No hidden agenda this time. I just don’t get why Gorks has been anointed, without demonstrating any significant achievements.
Well, I might have to bail on Span. His last check bounced.
I like that Hernandez has solid defense, but IMO that shouldn’t be the lone reason to take up a roster spot if he can’t hit consistently or when he comes off the bench. Hernandez stays, but unfortunately a guy like Morse and Hwang, who are more likely able to drive in Hunter Pence from 2B after 0 outs in the late innings, are most likely not going to make the Opening Day roster.
Unless Parker AND Williamson make the team but Hernandez is not added, I can see Parker being the backup in CF.
So, I get to dump Slania and reset my 25?
Cain (probably won’t last long)
Nunez (I think future is versatile utility)
Williamson (my druthers, management will likely chose an old guy like Morse or Hill or Gorkys as back up CF).
Remember you can edit this right up to the Last Minute since some cuts this week may give you a more clear picture.
Thank you for the reminder and also for My25ManGuy, a TWG institution.
Just wanted to be sure I had an entry so no time like now!
I’m ready for SF Giants baseball 2017.
There are so many great clichés in here, I don’t know where to start!
How about, “That’s going to happen,” Cain said.
Yeah, Matt, that’s going to happen a lot this year.
Rags is going to see if Matt can pitch left-handed, the ball might come out of that hand better. This is bad news for Okert.
He was smiling and looking way too pleased with himself when he left the mound.
Another thing that’s “going to happen” – the Giants are gonna lose a lot of games they shouldn’t.
How about the Giants are gonna lose a lot of games they should and win a lot of games they shouldn’t
Seems one of the cats is taking up piano. We’ve been keeping them in at night to feed and hopefully rid ourselves of visiting stray cats and raccoons. At first it was the typical mash of several keys, discordant, perhaps avant garde. It was a signal to go outside. Last nite, must have been 3-4 AM, it was notes, across intervals. A little bit experimental, but there was a melody and structure in there somewhere, perhaps something by Phillip Glass. But I knew what she was communicating. Out the door she went. That’s our Stevie Nix.
Next I anticipate a soaring version of Rhiannon or perhaps practice for some big recital:
I want want to clarify something I said last night- I didn’t mean to imply that Matt and Conor are dumb, they just look dumb. They are probably real smart. Hell, our President looks dumb as shit but as he has told us, he’s really terrifically fantastically smart.
As he has also told us so.
Maybe I’ve misunderstood what he has said- maybe he meant that he will be really really smart really really soon.
One of the best baseball players in history as well – if that apocryphal quote was true.
Sometimes I snicker so abruptly that I actually shit my pants. Anyhow, what’s for 2nd breakfast?
I started out with 4 tries to get out the couch, then my first breakfast was tasting Jimmy’s True Pal’s Tuna Supreme. He wouldn’t eat it until I proved that it wouldn’t kill him. Now I’m not hungry.
I want to show him how good he has it. Not like that poor kitty who lives under Calixte’s baseball cap.
He’s cat royalty, he has his own food taster. Is he a Russian Blue?
Calixte is a good cat name. Our black cat goes by Mixtli.
What club does that place you in? Don Rickles?
Seems like Denard Span has been getting that 0-ish for 30-ish streak out of the way in spring training.
Better now than August. Believe me, he’s going to hit this year. He’s going to do huge things for the Giants. He’s a tremendous talent. One of the best.
But seriously, I’m with Chef. Giants need him to be well and hit the ball like he has historically hit the ball, including most of the 2nd half last year, and down the final stretch and into the playoffs. And hopefully his range will be on par. The daisy air-rifle arm is just a fact, nothing alternative about it.
.280/.340/.400 or burst.
He throws like Willie Mays*
(* – Willie is 85-years-old)
His beautiful ‘Ofay’ Bride is teaching him how to get more length on his throw.
“Throw That Thing”
Come April 2, everything will be coming out of our heads better. Well, a guy can hope.
Is it bust or burst… insert Oxford comma.
Could be bursitis.
My_Guy back with the Twinkies
Color me skeptical. From here he looks like a rapidly declining player with whom we are saddled for yet another year. As you say, wheel sea.
Jose Bautista’s Brawl With Rougned Odor Leads To Litigation
Since the I Phone invention – Nominations for Darwin Awards have increased
Mike is always good for a quote-on playing the OF last night. “It was fun. It was like riding a bike … with two flat tires”
Did he have any plays out there?
I only saw the last few innings and he had one very lazy fly ball.
He is auditioning for a DH job in the “Almost MLB” side of this sport.
I really believe him when he said that it’s all or nothing with the Giants. He stated it was actually kind of nice to be away from the game and he’d have no problem going home if it doesn’t work out in SF. That the Giants are the only team he wants to play for. He ain’t trying to hang on with just any team. I think it’s why he’s playing so free and easy, he doesn’t feel any pressure. Just rolling the dice and being comfortable with the end result, whatever it might be. I think it makes him kinda dangerous, actually. That and the fact he said he realized he needed to slim down, trading muscle mass for flexibility.
Thanks for the backstory.
With AZ, Tomas [LF] went down Thursday with an oblique strain so their team depth chart shows Balance would take his place. I think he has done well enough that they will have him on their 25-Man. But I also think Gorkys will pick it up here before April. EDIT: he hit .324 last September in 34 AB’s … pretty good sign that he can do this.
He actually made a good play in left center when he had run down a fly ball when Gorkys tripped going for the ball. But then he broke back on a fly ball that fell in front of him. He was unconked upon, so a good night all in all.
He misread the Velo off the bat once on a big swing. Chef mentioned it.
Are the Boys on teevee today?
Or should I do something with my life??
As someone who doesn’t have cable, won’t go to a bar to watch a game, and hates blackouts on MLB.com, we know they aren’t on KTVU. “That’s where they’re going to stay.” Lies!
13 thumbs up
Any Burro’s available for a hike into the tombs?
Sisterfan in AK says they are on Root TV.
Comcast TV tomorrow .Today is a big day for some of the wannabes- Marrero, Hwang, Brown,Ruggiano, and Beckham all get starts.
BTW, I think Tebow is out hitting Span now. Let’s hope for better days.
The 30 year old Virgin is outhitting the $10 Million dollar man?
He’s also out hitting Zobrist, Heyward,and Pence. Your guys better grab him before we do. The Mets might take Zobrist and Rizzo for him.
Are you really trying to be a dickwad? It worked. You better back on your Thorazine.
*get ” back.
LOL. I’m your straightman.
Wonder if Mr Ball has insured all of his sons legs?
I saw folks discussed batting gloves last night. I think one reason for fewer bare hands that was not mentioned is reduced use of pine tar. I hate that stuff, much prefer bat tape for a better grip but I don’t see many major leaguers using it.
Sorry to see that Lefty is getting exported, was looking forward to meeting her at a AAA game this season.
See, our workers are still going overseas.
NOT baseball. This sort of freaked me out.
“[M]uch like my situation in San Francisco, the people that are doing
the micromanaging . . . when it comes to building a ball team, what they
know could not blow up a small balloon,” Jim Harbaugh told Michael
Rosenberg of SI.com. “In my case, an owner and a General Manager.”
Talking about Harbaughs brother-in-law being fired at Indiana.
That’s such a great description of the Niners brass’s football acumen.
2-0 Giants…3 back to back hits. No outs.
Pablo with 2 dingers today- having a good spring.
I thought he was partial crullers?
Who wants a used cruller?
TO, it’s a cop ritual thing. Just kidding.
I chatted with a couple from Massachusetts recently, who were jazzed because Pablo was in such great shape. Decided not to blow their bubble. I can recall a few seasons he started in great shape.
How kind of you.
Turning over a new leaf.
Good for him.
Yes it is. Maybe we’ll see him in October.
Parker just hit a HR.
Sad how Sandoval turned out with Giants. I still follow him with best wishes (except in head to head games).
Yeah sad, 3 WS titles an MVP of the WS and a historic 3 HR game. Lets not forget he hit .500 in the WS against Detroit and followed that up by hitting .429 and scoring 6 runs in the WS against the Royals. He was involved in over 1/3rd of the runs scored against the Royals. His offense led 2 of the 3 WS teams to the WS victories. For the money what $6M a year, he was terrific. I guess it is more sad how Barry Zito turned out for his $100M+ and 1 WS appearance.
I greatly enjoyed Sandoval as a ball player on the Giants and the great success of those seasons.
Sad because of how and what was said when Panda left and his subsequent lack of success. Turned out probably good for the Giants that Sandoval left and directly allowed the one glorious season of Matt Duffy.
At one time I thought perhaps Sandoval would go to the HOF as a Giant and things did not turn out that way. I will always check the box score of wherever he plays and want Panda to do well.
Sarcasm isn’t your forte.
Oh the pain, remember his injuries? That oscilates around his wrists, elbow and shoulder and groin/hammy injuries he has had. Then again, Hunter Pence $19M dollar man had a 1.6 and a 2.1 the past 2 seasons. Everyone has ups and downs.
Negative WAR muffy. You’re really not very good at this.
Good on him (as Australians would say). Surprising he isn’t playing in the WBC, seems like a very patriotic guy. BTW, the manager of the Venezuela team is Omar Vizquel.
Is that a Hostess product? Just kidding. I like Pablo and hope he does well – comeback player of the year well. Yes, you heard it here, first.
I had 2 hoho’s yesterday.
This thought that Nunez can back up middle infield ignores the fact that the Yankees gave up on him due to atrocious infield play. Keep him at third and pray.
He’s actually, since he’s come to the Giants, made great improvement in his defense to my eye, at 3B.
They traded for him to play third base, not to be a utility guy.
True. Though quite a few comments in the past weeks mention him as a possible backup at short when discussing opening day roster. He can’t play middle infield or outfield.
You must have copied and pasted that from your previous comment on Nunez. Sounds familiar.
He was the starter on the Yankees, not the backup middle infielder he would be on the Giants for 15-20 games if need be. I think you can understand that playing a position 20 game compared to over 100 games is a huge difference. He would be just fine for a handful of games a year.
Parker but a charge into that one. He sure seems like he’s waiting back on the ball, and making much better contact than in days gone by.
It sure sounded impressive on the radio call!
It’s on MLBTV, just the Seattle announcers.
He’s no Adam Duvall.
But then, who is?
In all seriousness, I think you can make some comparisons to Parker and Duvall. No, I’m not saying Parker has done anything remotely close to what Duvall accomplished last year, before people start howling. People are gonna howl. I get it. But the similarities involve the fact that both guys have tremendous power, which is what caused their rise through the minor league system. When that type of hitter gets to the bigs they obviously want to mash, they think that’s what will keep them there, hitting dingers. Of course, ML pitching is a whole ‘nother ballgame, and you’ll see this type of player struggle, flailing at pitches they need to identify and lay off. Some guys can adapt, other never do. Duvall clearly was able to begin to figure it out. Parker looks like he might’ve had that light bulb go off. That less is more, be more conservative in your approach, knowing your natural power will allow the homers to come. You don’t have to swing for the fences.
Their stats to bear some similarity, but they seem different. Duvall, for instance, is calm, while twitchy is, well, twitchy. This is an important year for Duvall, albeit for very different reasons. IF he can adjust his game, he could be a good one. He’s a work in progress, IMO. Parker is something of a blank canvas with reason for some optimism.
The responses to this are gonna be amazing.
He and Mac have both looked good this spring. But I wouldn’t make too much of it yet.
True. We should focus on Span.
I agree, we need more of that.
Adam Duvall had a sub-.300 OBP last year. He also played in a very favorable home yard for hitters.
David Duvall has better game than you on the golf course.
Hater , Mr. slappy, Duvall had over 100 RBI, geek !
Just stating facts. Gosh.
Facts you want to make your case with , I am more into production , do not care who he did it , Duvall produced runs for his team, he did his job, the WAR crowd is looking at the game the wrong way .
Jennifer Pawol’s quest to become the first female MLB umpire took another step in the right direction this offseason as Pawol received a promotion from 2016’s Gulf Coast League (Rookie) to 2017’s New York-Penn League (Short-A). http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/03/jen-pawol-promoted-to-single-new-york.html
Spring Ejection – Yasiel Puig) http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/03/spring-ejection-tom-woodring-s1-yasiel.html
Andrew McCutchen has early T time = Ejection http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/03/wbc-ejection-will-little-2-andrew.html
Goodbye, Villanova. I bet Peachy had Wisconsin in the upset.
I’m very mad at Villanova right now. Grrrr. Now I hope AZ loses too. I think most of my colleagues are betting on UCLA winning it all (I’ve picked NC winning over the Bruins), so I hope they lose too.
The Giants batters need to start hitting. They look like the Giants of the second half last year. Funny when you do not add anybody and run the same retreads
Parker’s hitting .343 and has 4 HRs this spring. He’ll likely be the Opening Day left fielder. He’s not a retread. Also, Posey and Crawford haven’t been with the team for the last two weeks.
Heard from Sincere? My jukebox is going to explode.
Goofball is just trolling.
Posey and Crawford were not hitting in Giants camp , but now are crushing the ball for the WBC, they needed the rush of the WBC to get them going, .
Parker was MyGuy to start left. It does seem more likely with him hitting and as someone pointed out a bunch of righties getting playing time in left. But Come on Man Crawford not being there is an excuse?
Your boy Belt is having a great spring .
He of the wiff every 3 at bats? Wait until the season starts and he hits against real major league pitchers.
The only two players I am worried about are Pence and Span, they look old , hopefully the last 2 years of those contracts will not be dead money .
I worry about the headcase Belt.
He is having a great spring
It is one of his his worst Spring of his career outside of the terrible 2014 year.
I go by SLG%, last I looked it was really good, batting average is for 80 year olds .
I look for contact rates……
Mike Trout Striked out 186 time in his 1st MVP Season, 80 year olds hate strikeouts too , an out is an out, Belt has always had low ground out rates, so rarely hits into double plays .
I guess it is not as easy to hit into a double play when striking out.
Way to go Span.
We’ve got to get him going. Maybe today is the day.
It would be a good thing. And, he’s a notoriously slow starter. Keeping fingers crossed, but with his age and injury history, I don’t think he’s going to be enough in CF.
So what’s enough?
Someone to pick up 60-80 games.
you called it this morning, bud. if him and JP12 can set the table, the boys by the bay might have a very nice year. moore looked great today, and bum was october sharp the other day. pitching, defense, and some timely slappy hitting is the formula.
I called it, Footie agreed with it.
Have footy send you a pocket mirror.
I always defer to Chef. That’s me by the sink, washing dishes.
You do know he requires you gargle with dishwater to prove you’re worthy.
you called it just now.
you’ll be waiting for awhile, both he and Pence have been trending downward for the past 1 1/2 years. Their best days are behind them. Doesn’t mean they can’t contribute, but don’t use past stats lines as starting points of comparison.
And don’t be using spring numbers as a benchmark for the real season.
Pence and Span just fooling with us, trying to look bad at the plate, and soon as the season starts will be looking like 25 year olds with great bat speed, got ya makes sense to me, not really !
Peter, the more you talk,the more you show that you know little about the game.
Stop being an A H, give me a reason why Pence and Span looking bad at the plate for a lot of at bats is no concern to you , I know Pence gives a 100% in every at bat, and would tell you himself he is not happy with his at bats !
No- here’s what we’ll do. If you were the manager ,give me your opening day roster and opening day LU and I’ll tell you how many games they’ll win with your guys. As to Pence not being happy with his at bats- of course he isn’t. I never said that he and Span are happy about their hitting so far. What I did say is that it doesn’t mean a lot yet. Capiche?
Among other things.
oh you’re on of those. Fine, why don’t you checkout the overall stats for the past three season? Trending downward when they were on the field, injury or no injury (with players that age the injury bug is in no excuse but par for the course).
It’s no use talking to you at all anymore . As if there ever was. You even gave a guy shit because he commented about players and the use of batting gloves. The only reason you comment here is to f –k with everybody. It won’t be with me anymore- you’re dead to me. Don’t bother to respond- I won’t be hearing it.
no need to be so freaking immature about dude, your too old for that.
My point was very valid, you just got upset because I’m right.
Your point was not to look at ST numbers, and I don’t. It’s not like the season will start tomorrow and Span and Pence will explode out of the gate.
They are they are, two aging vets who hope to help but won’t carry the team anymore.
Don;t get pissed because I’m right in my analysis and post stupid comebacks.
Pence had a lot of good luck on BABIP last year, he was the luckiest on the team. I’m sorry to say that I agree, we should have diminished expectations for him.
Federowicz is a doubles hitting MACHINE. I’m sure that his .194 lifetime BA is a misprint.
he has been hitting great, but what was really impressive was a throw he made last game to get a guy at 2nd. great mechanics, and threw a seed to 2b. between him and brown, maybe they didn’t really need hundley.
Brown and Federowicz should make a nice tandem in Sacto, but I don’t think that they present any challenge to Hundley.
!s HaakAway still here replace David Hernandez off my 25 man roster, with any breathing Human being !
Ugh, me too. Wow, did I get THAT wrong.
Marrero has got to make it.
Him and Morse , battling for backup 1st base and part time LF and PH with Power spot on the roster .
Another Randy Elliot though…. do real DNA – pedigree or resume
Not like that almost 40 year old Rollins that was waived by one of the worse teams in MLB last year
The CWS were correct in waiving him. He thought he was an everyday SS and he clearly was not the last maybe three yrs. This is an off the bench role. Remember guys like Arias or Hacktor that would come off the bench and swat a Ribeye. Maybe Jimmy can do the same.
Randy goes in seclusion every spring.
I don’t blame him…. he is a young 65 yrs old
Being the poster boy for the spring training phenom turned regular season bust must wear on a guy after a few decades of hearing it.
Chuck Berry, at 90, passed.
bummer i was listening to his Chess box set just 2 days ago.
sorry to hear about it..had as much to do with rock n roll gaining popularity as anyone. a true giant in music. rest easy mr. berry..
Imagine what wouldn’t have been if he hadn’t been inspired by Marty McFly.
No skateboard moves?
Looked at my watch and it was 11:30,
She turned back, and called me somethin’ dirty,
You know why? You know why?
I ain’t gonna tell you why
Duck walking in France.
We used to see Rock and Roll greats at Danceland in a amusement park in Minnetonka . We paid a buck for Chuck, Fats, Jerry Lee… I saw the Rolling Stones there in 1964. There was hardly anybody there.Maybe because they upped admission to 6 bucks. Those who did show up, hated them. They were booed, fights broke out. Good times..
As I recall, Danceland was I big stop on that regional music circuit. Wasn’t it one of the ‘locations’ in that R&R movie, That Thing You Do, from the mid 90s Danceland?
I don’t know about the movie but I do recall that there was a circuit for those R and R greats. When the British Invasion really hit, the American rockers couldn’t buy themselves a gig. But later, the Beatles and the Stones credited our rockers for inspiration and they had a renaissance of sorts. This is doo-wop but it’s a favorite of mine. Jimmy Beaumont and the Skyliners. He can still nail it.
Jimmy is 76 now.I think he was about 65 when he sang it again in Vegas.
They were out of Pittsburgh. I was a 11 year old back when the song broke out. Here it is from way back then. He’s better now, almost 60 years later-like all of us
JRoll hitting .313…. I mean .113
You had me worried for a second.
Some youthful baseball player comes to SF Spring training and opens everybody’s eyes by hitting .380, stealing bases, making all the plays in the OF or IF. He breaks camp on the 25 and is the opening day lineup and after three weeks he’s 9 for 72…..
Some old has-been player with a ‘name’ from the past – gets invited to SF Spring Training or is in his second year of again struggling – and struggles with his throwing and base running and is stuck on 6 hits all of Spring Training …. lots of right-side-ground balls. Because of his ‘last name’ or current salary the season starts and after three weeks in the starting lineup – he’s driven in 14 runs, has 5 triples with 4 doubles and 3 stolen bases.
What is the difference?
Best song maybe of my womanizing
Always loved hearing that one. All time fave.
One of my all-time faves too.
I would like to see Morse, Hwang, or Marrero make the team, but we may have to have a 26-man roster for them to make it. We would be better served with a bench with Hundley, Gillaspie, KT, Hill, and Parker/Mac. If we keep Morse, Hwang, or Marrero ,we’re left with just one reserve who play the middle infield. I’m OK with sounding like a broken record but we should keep Mac and Parker.As to the CF back up, Parker can do it- y’all think he’s better than Span, anyway.
What’s with Kershaw getting jack hammered the other day?
8K, 3HR, 5IP.
4ER and the loss: http://m.mlb.com/gameday/mariners-vs-dodgers/2017/03/17/509740#game_tab=box,game=509740,game_state=final
Obviously, he’s finished.
Really. He did have some preseason physical complaint. Awe, you’re kidding.
It is that damn up and down up and down up and down up and down up and down up and down up and down delivery that his Pappy taught him on the farm
Henandez pitches like an exPadre.
BEAUTIFUL man beautiful ! ! !
Now I know why they’re called “scrubs.”
2 weeks to go.
Just the picture makes it worthwhile:
Posey not in the lineup tonight, despite one of the hottest hitters on team USA, should have at least DH’d, Stanton not hitting at all, you guys look like you will get your wish, and USA will be out of WBC after tonight .
That’s just plain wrong of Leyland not to start Buster let alone not letting him DH.
Terrible, just so so terrible.
Just a plain Idiot !!!
Take it easy on yourself, Peter.
You are the guy even bringing up planes going down not me .
See, I can make ’em go down and I can make ’em go up.
I really have wished for that. Hey, maybe the plane will go down, that would be even better.
STFU, I want the USA to win , not like most of the others on here !
I NEVER said that I wanted to them lose. You have to stop lying about what other people say.
Plane crash crap, what is that about, I would never ever even Joke about that !
Plane crashes can be great fun.
Sick sense of humor, I never joke about anything that most of the time is fatal .
Did you watch it?
No, but most of the time Plane crashes do not end in happy endings , so was not looking for laughs .
Why don’t you listen to the baseball song I posted? Maybe it will make you feel better.
You don’t see this every day. I was down at the local field today doing long toss and tee work with my son. These three 20 year old guys were doing BP on the diamond and had a big Home Depot bucket of balls. I noticed that they were throwing baseballs and softballs. And then tennis balls, whatever the guy pulled out of the bucket. Kinda weird, I asked the guy shagging in the outfield why there were using different kind of balls and of course he said they were just goofing around. Kinda nuts but just kids being kids I guess.
Are we ready for baseball?
USA trails 2-0 after 1st inning, throwing error by Crawford did not help .
4-2 USA now! Giancarlo Stanton with a bomb after Crawford singled.
Yeah Leyland is a genius, I wanted Posey to DH instead of Stanton, but he could of started Stanton over McCutchin in LF and had Posey DH .
Posey has elimination game exp. He needs to be playing. Or at least DH. Line-up = 0 sense.
So Bochy must be moonlighting ?
maybe stanton was a good choice to DH?
Leyland got lucky. Posey would of homered too. But to see Stanton uncork that was pretty cool.
” Posey would of homered too.”
Come on Peter, stop hacking into Crawdad’s account. You are the only one who would say such a ridiculous thing.
Let’s go DR! I’m sick of watching Buster and Craw waste their bullets in this dog and pony nonsense. Bring the boys home now!
Another Idiot, so you want them to waste bullets in meaningless pre season games instead !
Let’s just say the Management in Scottsdale has a greater interest in preserving their longer term utility than the retiree their loaned out to at the present. Idiot.
You are probably, another Left of Left liberal that does not believe in Nations .Crawford and Posey want to play for the USA, get over it, some of us love and are prideful of our Country .
Is Peter Johnson your real name or just an accurate representation of your double-donged dildo penile-headed personality?
Yes it is my real name , you immature , A hole .
Sorry Bro, my brother’s name is Pete. We still give him shit about it.
You really should change it. Or better yet, you could have a middle name.
” Peter Plonker Johnson “
Which country doth you speak of? Gooberia ?
Respective WBC managers are given a list of concerned workload requirements by the MLB clubs whose players are playing for the respective WBC teams. And it is the responsibility of WBC coaches to honor that. Maybe it was Evans and Bochys ‘wish’ to sit Buster (given Busters workload). Thus the 80 pitch count for pitchers. Some 70. But I think it’s good for Craw and Posey to play in competition and elimination games. The risk side for injury is the same as if they were playing in ST games. If the DR wins, I believe Johnny Cueto will report to them to pitch. I didn’t care too much for the WBC 12 years ago, but it’s crawling under my skin now.
Go Nippon then
Duckweed, Dunderhead, Puddinghead, Peckerhead, Douche Nozzle Idiot,Plonker,Pillock,Klutz Dunce,Numskull, Blockhead, Bonehead, Lunkhead, Hammerhead, Knucklehead,Muttonhead…
Gotta disagree, JVF. The WBC has turned into must-see TV, actually must-see MLB caliber play. MLB has done a great job marketing the brand and the baseball, and the players have not disappointed.
Crawford with hit.
I was listening to CBS Sports Radio a couple of weeks ago, before the WBC started, and guess which team was considered the favorite…. the USA. Kind of surprising as they haven’t done so well in the past.
This morning, Marty Lurie was saying that Samardzija was scheduled to start for the Giants tomorrow but that may change because he might be called to the US WBC team if they advance. Seems like a weird rule, teams can call up anybody during the tournament… but I don’t know the specific rules regarding this.
Archer is scheduled to pitch if the USA advances to Final 4, doubt USA would want Samardzia after his last start, Melancon is another story
OK, Machado hat-tipping his Orioles teammate Jones after that amazing catch there was just flippin’ AWESOME.
Indeed. That one moment captured the essence and beauty of the WBC. Jones tipping back–totally cool as well. Goose bump moment.
Jones woulda had that
Time to put Ol’ Yelich down. He’s got the hydrophoby.
It’s cool “watching” the game here. Jones is no golden glover, that’s for durn sure.
Somebody ought to tell Arenado that Petco is AT$T South.
I think Matt Vasgersian hit E above high C calling that Cutch double.
Cutch looked a gimpy going in there. I almost took my eye off the blog or I might have missed it. This does’t bode well for the Buccos.
I know it’s a touching story, but Matt and JP Morosi have told the Luke Gregerson’s dad story 3 times. Learn more about the players…..
Ground ball to B Craw. Ball game!
Cueto gets to stay with us for the rest of ST, progressing at the slower pace he needs to get ready for the season! I know he would have given his all for his country had the DR advanced, so I’m happy for the USA and breathing a sigh of relief for the Giants and their co-ace!
Yahoo, Craw handled the final out with the utmost calm, befitting a 2-time World Champion! 🙂
I see that I’m talking to myself. That’s OK, I’m enjoying a little Span-less time. Now I’d like for all of you to go now. I like the room for myself after 11:00. Scoot, you only have 9 minutes to pack up and get the hell out.
USA vs. Japan on Tuesday at 6 at Dodger Stadium, will be a great game. As PJ said below, Chris Archer is scheduled to start for Team USA. I don’t think Japan has announced their SP. In the other semifinal game, Netherlands will play Puerto Rico at 6 on Monday.
Saw on Twitter that Archer is NOT starting, and Tanner Roark will, instead.
Thanks for the updated news. When I posted the above, I couldn’t find who any of the SPs will be on MLB’s WBC page. There’s an article there now, says that Marcus Stroman is scheduled to start the championship game if the US advances to it.
the best i ever saw, the kansas comet..so sad..
My favorite Gale Sayers memory involves other NFL players, to a degree. It’s 1964, Sayers’ rookie year. It’s also the rookie year for two other highly touted RBs, the 49ers Ken Willard and NYG Tucker Frederickson. As a young and biased Niners fan, I circled a game in November where the 49ers would play the Bears at Wrigley Field. I’m thinking “OK, Ken Willard: here’s where you show the NFL that you’re every bit as good as Sayers (or Frederickson) and YOU deserve the Rookie of the Year award”. That was, of course, the day Sayers scored six touchdowns, clinched ROY, and destroyed our 49ers.
I had the pleasure of working with Sayers when he joined the Board of Directors @ American Century Funds in K.C. (I was the Board Secretary). Such an unassuming man, a real gentleman.
My older brother was a N.Y. Giants fan, and always rued the fact that the Giants picked Fredrickson first in the draft – doh! – anyway he sent me a football and asked me to ask Sayers to sign it, “Tucker who?” G. Sayers.
He’s still got that ball.
My brother in law worked at Am. Cen. office for a number of years – they lived in Overland Park. They’ve been back in So. Cal for awhile now.
he shall be nameless here, but maybe over a pint of Guinness…
With 1/2 Bass Ale – meet in Oakdale? Coarse Gold?? ;o)
Seems there is some “fake news” on MLBTR regarding the mobility of one Denard Span. Hank is here to clear that up.
Maybe he can run the ball to the infield!
I hope and expect Span to have a better year based upon previous years injuries impacting the beginning of last season and the adjustment to the new stadium and team. I don’t think has the speed or base stealing ability to lead off for a non-power hitting team or the CF arm for a pitching and defense team and stadium.
I posted here at TWGs the thought for 2017 that perhaps finding another CF may have been of more importance than finding an everyday LF.
I see Span as a combination corner / CF rather than everyday CF posy 2017.
Agree that there are various uncertainties among Pence, Span, Parker, Williamson, and other potential OFs in 2017. Gorkys Hernandez is an AAAA fill in player holding place for a better player to emerge.
I really like the Angel’s Mike Trout. He is only 25. What a coup to trade for Trout in CF would be for the SF Giants.
Your first sentence is a bit like expecting Kathleen Turner to make a comeback because she’s been there before. I’m not sure Span has it in him. Yes, he’s a great teammate, good hard working professional, sounds like a solid clubhouse guy, and will have some surprisingly good games mixed in (a’la Zaza Pachulia), but the day to day experience of watching him will lead to the realistic conclusion of : he isn’t that guy any more.
I obviously do not think that Span is a long term nor that great a solution for LO or CF.
My wishful (for a smidgen of Kathleen Turner) is for Span to out together a full year of 2014 or 2015 or a slight uptick from the 2nd half of 2016.
I am concerned with Span’s arm strength and lack of speed and base stealing ability at LO.
Kathleen Turner…good one. Body Heat Kathleen Turner…if only she could make a comeback. That’s like Cy Young Lincecum vs. Angels Lincecum.
“I really like the Angel’s Mike Trout. He is only 25. What a coup to trade for Trout in CF would be for the SF Giants.”
Now that would stupendous! I’ve also heard good things about Trout. Got to jailbreak him from Disneyland down there.
I would trade the Angels Bumgarner plus any current major league outfielder plus Arroyo plus any major league 3B plus any minor league starting pitcher not named Beede for Trout who then had better have a great 7 to 10 years for the Giants.
You lost me at “trade Bumgarner.”
I made potential under pretty specific circumstance and in a context of many dimensions.
I love Bumgarner 2nd only to Juan Marichal in my life.
My suggestion was meant to be one that could be taken seriously by the Angels.
You just made things very interesting.
I sort of meant to be provocative.
Also just in past several minutes realize that many new posts do not show up on my access at TWGs until I close and reload page.
All I saw was Mathew’s posts.
Bumgarner no. Not for anyone. In big games he’s the best, and big games are the most important this.
I am beyond thankful that you have nothing to do with the Giants front office.
I made that post to be provocative after some thought.
Bumgrarner is an all time great, the present Giants most valuable player, and had much to do with winning 3 WSs.
He is also a pitcher that has 6 straight seasons over 200 innings and is the best post season but not the best in season pitcher of the present generation. Bumgarner has never won 20 games. He is an emotional player that is used to winning. Power pitchers get hurt. He is not yet a certainty for the HOF.
Must I mention that I love Bumgarner as a Giant?
Trout is a generational best player at a key defensive position, CF, who is several years younger than MadBum and arguably has had a better career.. Trout is a true 5 tool player coming in to his peak ages of career (and position players last longer than pitchers, especially power pitchers with heavy use).
So trading Bumgarner and Arroyo are the risks along with Trout getting injured and not recovering for a long career.
One of Span, Pense, Parker, Williamson gone to be replaced in OF at CF by Trout. OK
Losing one of Nunez, Hwang, or Gillaspie at 3B; OK, none seem to be viewed as long term solutions anyway.
Losing a AAA starter such as Blach, Blackburn, Gregorio, or Stratton? OK, given the Giants present rotation and the projection of Beede they are excess in number and may not get a full chance with the Giants anyway.
Arroyo is a risk but is not yet proven. He may prove to be an everyday player at 3B or elsewhere in 2018 or later but players with more hype have failed to develop and the Giants have three relatively young players at 3B plus Crawford at SS and Panik at 2B already at the MLB level.
The Giants traded an established AS and later HOF Cepeda and got Sadecki and that was a bad trade.
The Giants traded an established AS and later HOF Perry and got McDowell and that was a bad trade.
The Giants traded Matt Williams an established AS who had subsequent fine seasons but did not make the HOF for Kent, Taveras, Viscaino, and Roa and that turned out to be a great trade and allowed the best Giants team between he 1960s and the recent winner of 3 WSs.
I didn’t like any of those three past Giants trades.
Risky yes. If there ever was a player potentially worth the risk it is Trout. The Angels probably would not risk the trade and the Giants are fine without the trade, possibly good enough for more WS wins.
I remain beyond thankful..
That is your prerogative.
Mike Trout is a great player.
I made a suggestion based upon what I thought it would take to make Trout a SF Giant.
The SF Giants are a quality team now, a most competitive team that could benefit from a few tweaks.
Something as earthshaking as what I perceive as a trade that may be considered is required for the Giants to remain a competitive team.
I have been a Giants fan since I went to first game in 1959 (went to at least one Giants game 1959 to 2003 and haven’t been to SF Bay Area since).
The only Giants pitcher who has lasted so long (actually longer as we hope for MadBum now) at high use and high success was Juan Marichal (who set the bar very high in my youth).
Relax. That’s a lot of words in 3 posts for a preposterous idea.
What do you feel the need to be insulting?
I am not saying to do the trade but what it might take to get interest from the Angels.
You certainly have posted your share of words over the years at the Merc and now here.
I just think throwing “Mike Trout for Bumgarner” is absurd. That’s not meant to be insulting. It’s meant to be my opinion
I hope that Span has a better year. But I agree with whoever said that the Giants have left themselves very exposed in CF (really, the OF in general). Span was a disappointment last year any way you look at it–below career averages at the plate, practically nonexistent on the bases, and a flat-out liability defensively. Notably, he was being platooned in September and even in the playoffs.
This is not another “crap-on-Span” post. Rather, I’m surprised that the Giants didn’t do more to provide depth in CF in case Span’s 2016 was the new normal, not an exception. They’re already rolling the dice on unproven commodities in LF, and we’re all crossing our fingers and hoping that Pence will be healthy and effective in RF (but the truth is that there may be no more reason to be optimistic about Pence than there is about Span). But they do have some depth and choices in the corner OF positions–yeah, not “Yoenis Cespedes” choices, but at least a step above “Gorkys Hernandez” choices.
Could definitely become a problem. Span could even suffer an injury and CF will become exposed in that manner. Then what? Wynton Bernard? I imagine Steve Duggar resumes life in Richmond after just 60 games in AA last year. With continued success at the plate, he can move to AAA. Giants are rarely aggressive with promotions. Usually, there has to be exigency to fill a position and the prospect has to demonstrate the ability to hit advanced pitching beyond a doubt.
They would be more likely to pursue the trade route than hastily bump up a prospect. Unfortunately, Kevin Kiermaier will not be available.
I beg to differ on Duggar. The reports out of camp are that the team is very high on him and that he is “flying through the system.” I think he’ll be in AAA for the exact reason that they know they might need him sooner rather than later. He hit .320 during his time in Richmond. That’s only a bit lower than what Duffy hit in a half-season in Richmond when he was jumped right into the big leagues and never spent a second in AAA.
I actually believe Duggar is next up, and barring injury to him or massive underperformance in AAA, he could be on the team before the 2017 season is over. He also hits lefty, so if he were to replace Span (say in case of injury), it wouldn’t change the balance of the lineup, either.
Slater can play CF if needed, too, and he’s already in AAA. Not a dedicated CF like Duggar, but he played there for Sac last year after Gorkys was promoted.
Duggar’s assignment will also be influenced by potential log jam at AAA. Seems quite a few names in need of at-bats. Wherever he can get regular play – which he needs in CF as he has not be a dedicated CF for long.
Interesting thing happened for Duggar upon advancement from hitter friendly league to less hitter friendly. Lower K rate and a stupendous BABIP. Let’s see him duplicate those gains and see what happens when he’s pitched more aggressively in zone and also see’s more breaking pitches in all counts.
I’m telling you–Duggar’s going to be in AAA. Bet you an Irish whiskey the next time you’re in Davis!
Duggar is top of my list within the Giants system for CF. So far seems a great draft pick.
He was MyGuy™ last year. He did well for me (I came in second in the contest).
“Yesterday Span scored from first on double, beat infield hit. Tripled. I focused on his running. Looks better in CF too. Hitting the issue.”
from a reasonable guy. In the age of unreasonableness, reason counts.
Opening day lineup?
None of the above
I’m with D👍🏻
You know they won’t do it, but it’s beyond time to move Span to the bottom of the order. Nunez needs to learn how to take more BBs if he’s gonna hit leadoff. If he can give us a .350 OBP he’ll steal 40 bases again and add an element we’ve been missing for years.
That’s the rub with Nunez – getting walks and OBP up. Not easy for 30 y.o. player to change stripes at plate. Career OBP of .314; .325 last year. Career walk rate of 5.3%; 4.9% last year.
E- none of the above. As much as people don’t want Span in the leadoff spot, I’d still open the season with it. I’d go with A but just flip Parker and Nunez to avoid back to back lefties.
Even with Nunez’s swing-happy tendencies, he’s still a better choice than Span at this point because of his speed and base-stealing abilities. We can pick at Nunez all we want, but there’s no question that Span is a poor leadoff man now. If those are our choices, Nunez is the better option.
Nunez is not a patient hitter and if you tell him to be more patient he’ll be worse. I like impatient (aggressive) hitters but it they have a relatively low OBP they shouldn’t be leading off.
It really isn’t clear what to do with the batting order. The problem is that the main base-stealing threats have the lowest OBPs (other than Panik, and he’ll probably improve). I would actually put both Nunez and Span low in the order and have them try to manufacture runs from there. Parker’s average is so low and his number of strikeouts and walks so high that I could see him leading off just for the walks and so that he won’t come up much with people on base. Belt, with the highest OBP and SLG, should I think be hitting 3rd. Posey actually would be a good #2 hitter, he strikes out very little and has a good OBP.
really, who should care about base stealing threats at the top of the order. I think most people have this notion historically ingrained that your leadoff should be a fast guy.
Ask the hitters if they want to worry about the runner on first taking off when they have a pitch to hit?
And base stealers get caught as well. It’s great if the leadoff guy as speed, but he needs to not make outs and set the table. Nothing wrong with starting a game off with a homerune, double, or walk.
I agree 100%. Managers are beginning to come around to this way of thinking but it’s taking some time…
D, if I can change Span into Williamson.
(1)Why not Nunez at lead off where his speed and base stealing ability could be of most use?
(2)Why no LU where Belt is 3rd place hitter? Belt is a natural 3rd place hitter with combination of OBP and power, I still expect Belt to have one or probably several more “career type” seasons better than what he has produced to date (.300 plus average, .400 OBA, 25-30 HR, 90-100RBI, .900 plus OPS).
(3) Crawford should be proceeded by hitter that takes pitches and has good contact and also followed by strong hitter – suggest Posey – Crawford – Pence at 4-5-6.
(4) I worry about the durability of Pence (and this is one reason to carry and play Williamson) so would have in 2017 anyway Pence and the hotter of Parker / Williamson at 6-7 or when Pence rests or is out a combination of Parker / Williamson at 6 -7. If one (or worse both) of Parker / Williamson does not pan out, there is much reason to get a strong hitting outfield mid season.
(5) I do not like pitchers at 8 even if Bumgarner as is disruptive. I do like Span at 8. Span is a mediocre lead off hitter but an excellent 8 place hitter not that easy to pitch around.
(6) Don’t forget Panik with return to 2014 and 2015 output at 2 spot.
(7) Hwang or Gillaspie on days that they start would fit in at 7 with Span at lead off and replacing Pence or splitting Parker and Williams in lower line up.
(8) More power in 2017 line up than in 2016. The Giants were fortunate in 2016 with the relative slappy hitting success of the various AAA call ups.
Not too shabby. You might field a call or two about 3 LHH in a row – but can always pinch hit for Parker when the loogy comes in.
Now pinch hitting, “Take on Me…”
Ok, serious. You think Morse makes it?
If he continues hitting, yes. They need some RH pop, particularly if Parker starts in LF, which it appears he will. They’ll want to sit him certain days against tough lefties. Seems to be him or Marrero and I don’t think Marrero has played any outfield, has he?
I’m of the belief that Mac now needs to beat out Morse for OD roster.
I think Mac goes down to Sacramento. They can see if Morse keep this up and bring up Mac if it doesn’t.
Get what they can out of Morse while he’s still feeling frisky. Then bring up Mac, who would be getting those daily ABs, and could potentially have a really devastating swing going. Not a bad plan.
Flip Pence and Belt. But nobody will even notice when they see Span at the top . Can I make some changes?
Right, Bochy is not starting Panik on opening day.
Maybe you missed reading the whole LU. Even Peter would see that I was joking. Rollins, Beckham, Morse, Cain… starting to get it, Cannonball?
Yep, you are right, saw Hill in place of Panik and didn’t notice the other obvious funnies. My bad, not so good at multi tasking this morning.
No, no I insist- it’s my bad. Well, OK. It’s your bad.
so, it’s a given that parker is the starting lf over mac?
not 100%. but something well north of 50%.
Unless one of them is eaten by a swarm of locusts, they should keep both of them.
For you out of area folks, looks like MLB will show the Giants game this afternoon as there won’t be a WBC playoff.
Really? Well, that just changed MY afternoon plans! Actually, since I’m three hours ahead of you (EDT), more like early evening. My Dookies aren’t on until 8:40 PM tonight, so that was the first sports-driven change to my Sunday plans. I have my priorities you know…
So, Posey really didn’t start at C last night in an elimination game? Was any reason volunteered? Leyland really just thought Lucroy was the better play?
Buenos dias, Sr. “Bro-han”.
I think Posey and Lucroy have just been alternating starts. Those weary catchers legs and all. And Lucroy is no slouch either. He’s no Buster, but who is? At least Leyland didn’t start Bregman over Crawford, even though Breg’s can hit and Breg’s will reach the Crawford Boxes at least several times this season.
a query I have, is why not give Goldie a start or two at 1B. Hosmer’s been pretty stout with the bat, but Goldie has a certain reputation to uphold as well.
He hasn’t started any games there?
As Matthew might say: Leyland has himself a Hosmerection.
He’s popping Hosmiagra?
…instead of a Goldschmember
It would be nice to have Team USA win it all for Leyland. JL won 1 AL Pennant; with Detroit in 2006.
Let’s not omit his Pitt pennant.
Actually, let’s omit it. Since I just made it up.
I forgot how fast Sid Bream was.
Say, it seemed you were working on a couple of rough draft replies yesterday. What happened to those? Never saw them. Whenever your muse give you that neck massage I suppose.
Rough draft replies? I’m confused.
As you should be. That was confusing. My bad. I thought you had a reply about the guy in PA and his whereabouts. You know how disqus tells you when someone is replying to a comment?
Last I saw I believe TF said he had contact info regarding Lee Lacy’s #1 fan but I never saw any follow up post from him as to his whereabouts.
Gotcha. I am up to date. From what I’ve gleaned, Sincere is an excellent teacher – he gave me some guitar tips and he didn’t even know it. I have a little more shred because of something he said about tone and playing what you feel. He also gave really good tips to Matthew on equipment. He also does theatre production in some capacity which can take huge time capacity.
I prefer to picture him in his garage ice-sculpting a life-sized Kent Tekulve. Maybe with some Bjork playing.
More likely Def Leppard. That’s our jam. Is it your jam too, Jimmy?
I’ll Wait would be my choice.
Not to mention Goldie is the reigning Gold Glover at the position.
and in spite of poor metrics, Eric Hosmer has stolen three Gold Gloves in a row, IIRC.
He must do some good things there, but I have seem him look awkward at times. Royals may trade him this year.
My eye test says Goldie’s one of the best in the biz fielding that position, and sadly, I’ve had a lot of opportunities to watch him over the years.
He has not hit was used at DH, has k’d many times and as 1 for 14 .
1 for 14
So by this theory Posey could actually sit in a championship game cuz they’re “alternating” starts? Sorry, but that’s ridiculous.
As the French philosophers might say : sacre bleu! absurde! merde!
Uh, who won?
Them winning doesn’t make it any less ridiculous to me, Chef.
I really don’t see how Lucroy is a downgrade. And I saw a couple of the most asinine comments ever last night- Stanton homered but Buster would also have homered. “Leyland got lucky”
This is plain old “homer-ism”.
Sorry, but I disagree. No disrespect to Lucroy but I think Posey is the better player, particularly defensively. But I’m certainly not up in arms about it. I couldn’t care less about the WBC. Here’s where PJ tells me to move to Russia. I’m send you some borscht.
Lucroy had the better offensive year in 2016. But whatever, I’m with you on the WBC. And I’m sure that wherever the hell they are playing is a swell place to visit.
This isn’t the World Series. Winning isn’t their only goal. They’re keeping in mind that this is the spring, and even if the players can handle it, no one is going to get worked too hard.
Is that a vest pocket epiphany? LOL.
Buster had a painful pimple on his arse.
Would you want that made public? 😉
It was Lucroy’s turn, they play full games and platoon every game, Giants do not want Posey over worked and Texas wants Lucroy to get his at bats, it is a compromise, I understood Posey would not Catch last night, I was hoping he might DH, but the DH Leyland went with last night was all right too. Posey will start Tuesday night vs Japan, but if the USA wins he will be on the bench for the Championship game .
Melancon will join the WBC…commence your fretting and/or 2nd guessing.
Gregerson closed last night, following a boatload of AAAA pitchers. So why screw everything up? Leave Melancon in Arizona and go with the semi-pros.
Nobel Prize winning poet, Derek Walcott died this week.
Love after Love.
The time will come
when, with elation
you will greet yourself arriving
at your own door, in your own mirror
and each will smile at the other’s welcome,
and say, sit here. Eat.
You will love again the stranger who was your self.
Give wine. Give bread. Give back your heart
to itself, to the stranger who has loved you
all your life, whom you ignored
for another, who knows you by heart.
Take down the love letters from the bookshelf,
the photographs, the desperate notes,
peel your own image from the mirror.
Sit. Feast on your life.
whoa – heard him on NPR the other day. beautiful voice as with the caribbean soul.
LOVE the part about sitting down to eat.
Are you kidding me? That doesn’t even rhyme.
Hmm. The Nobel committee didn’t seem to mind in 1992.
Span waits in centerfield,
Cain stands on the mound,
Bochy’s huge head is empty,
Darkness envelops me,
Where’s my Nobel Prize?
On the toilet.
You left out duvall?
“#sfgiants eligible for a $100,000 retention bonus if kept past March 28: Gordon Beckham, David Hernandez, Aaron Hill.”
Psst! Bobby E. – I know how to save the organization $300K!!
Just leave a tip in the jar.
Easy call- Hill.
Did you see Hernandez ‘pitch’ yesterday?
Just saved another $100K! Ca-ching!!
Maybe I misunderstood. I meant that Hill should get the bonus. Throw the others under Footie’s tractor, good fertilizer
gotta go pick up my front wheel. got it re-tubed yesterday. but I’ll get to that, after I finish with first breakfast. got some farmer john sausage cooked and potatoes going…
I haven’t had breakfast- I’m fasting until noon.
Rebel with a clue about pork product?
I like Hill – but I like Hwang better – like Brisbee, more upside:
No pun intended – but I’m tired of these over-the-hill vets clogging up the bench.
Better than over-the-Hwang vets
I like Hwang and I think that he may be up here soon.
I thought the idiom is “throw somebody under the bus,” not “tractor.”
I know what the usual idiom is, Thanks, though.
I was joking. But I do like “tractor” better than “bus,” sounds more rustic. : )
How many non-roster low-life’s will make the team? I’m going with one- Hill.
A great idea. Lego tape.
Haak usually stops by on Sunday, so I’ll hope he sees my entry for the 3/25 roster (and where is dgg lately?):
Pence(LF), Parker(CF), Williamson(RF) with reserves Span, Hwang: my main reason for this early entry is so Bochy knows where he should play MyGuys from now until camp breaks. Parker goes from not making my 1st draft 25man to owning a starting position. I can’t see leaving Hwang off the roster, nor competing with Arroyo for playing time at 3B in Sacramento, so let’s convert him to the OF.
Belt, Panik, Crawford, Nunez backed up by Tomlinson and Gillaspie.
Posey backed by Hundley. Good depth at C this year!
starting pitching: Bumgarner, Cueto, Moore, Samardzija, Blach with Cain on the DL or Sacramento. Sorry, Matt.
relievers: Melancon, Albert Suarez, Strickland, Law, Okert, Kontos, Gearrin. Will Smith starts on the DL, as a signal to the other relievers that they need to produce before he’s activated.
Someone got on her case about something and she erased her comments and took a hike.
Seriously? That’s bad news.
I’m extrapolating, somewhat, but I think so.
My Email address is email@example.com. Maybe someone knows her Email address and ask if she’ll Email me.
I may be wrong, but I suspect that Efrain was the culprit.
Please try, and mention ‘610nm’ in the process.
If recollection serves, yes it was.
Not so sure, dgg specifically said she blocked Efrain so he wouldn’t have been the culprit.
(not that pj)
The only reason I’m still here is that no one has ever gotten on my case about anything. I don’t dish it out because I can’t take it.
Typically unnecessary and humorless comment. You’re good at nasty.
Your much worse, you just think it is ok to insult some posters, but not other posters .
Peter, I’ve given you several up votes. You need to pay closer attention.
I am not worried about me, I can take it, the grammar stuff gets old though, just sayin that some including you have a little high school type click going , and will defend anyone in that click at all cost . I like that you will defend a Lady, but thought The Oraclle’s post was not mean are insulting .
You two are in the Click !
Peter, shed the cross. Most of the time your just a douche bag, even though, on occasion you’re capable of a pleasant discussion. Lately, I’ve just assumed your life is complicated if not hard and let it go.
You should ended that post with, (sad).
Dgg has always been a pleasant and thoughtful contributor here. Why the need to take a shot at her?
I don’t have anything against her, but she’s taken plenty of shots at me. One of her best might have been the very direct “I hate you.” That’s her right. But if she actually left because of what someone said to her, I think its inconsistent with the way she addressed those she disliked or with whom she disagreed.
It’s hard to imagine why she wouldn’t love you.
I know. It’s a real conundrum.
Ahh, you’re here primarily because you enjoy trolling from what I can tell.
If someone disagrees with you, it must be trolling.
Dgg is a retired physician. If I can get a hold of her, maybe she’ll agree to help you with a much needed operation.
The one connects your cerebellum to your arse.
I must upvote this.
When it’s content free, and generally mean spirited, then yeah.
If I don’t get someone mad at me at least twice a month I feel like I’m slacking. PJ wants me to be exported to Russia, so it’s been an excellent March so far.
I bet your kids are a rip.
They’re pretty fun.
Great tutelage or genes, flip a coin. Nah, self defense and survival.
All of the above. 🙂
Oh shite, she can’t leave TWG!
Come home, deeg!!
Thanks … I am checking in and got your changes.
Can you post my 25 man roster, I think I picked Rollins, David Hernandez, Justin Ruguliano(spelling), so want to change them , but not sure of my exact 25 man.
Yes, you did pick Rugg, Rollins and D. Hernandez.
Your other picks were Gorkys, Parker, Okert and Cain plus the core 18 most of us agree with.
I did not pick Gearrin right, replace D. Hernandez with him, replace Rollins, with Hill, and replace Rugg with Morse, replace Cain with Blach . I am going with more my picks , the other picks were more the way I thought what Giants Management would do.
That would add a whole ‘nother contest: “What 25-Man SHOULD the Giants have taken?”
Today’s “In The Clubhouse” on CSN right now is pretty interesting….and Affeldt’s narration is comforting
Anyone not moved by watching that video from Belt being told he made the bigs has no heartbeat…..
Giants should be on the MLB channel right now. But are not (sad).
Regular season AL games take 3 1/2 hrs. Spring training games? Fuhget about it…
Giants website says CSBA and MLB (out-of-market only).
The Shark is already showing why team USA said thanks but no thanks, were good stay with the Giants, we wil call you do not call us .
Patience, Peter. Let him get warmed up first before you throw him under the tractor.
I’m glad Beede is in the pipeline, as only the top 3 SP seem well set.
I heard that Beede didn’t like school and was nobody’s fool.
It’s been so long since last season ended, that I forgot how pitches is ideal per inning.
Simple fix: google ” The Krukow Theorem”
I’m more worried about Amy G than Span or Pence.
Always a gentleman you are.
Love Yoda speak I do.
It has never made any sense that so many you trash her. Her interviews are better than any of the ex-jocks.
Did you hear her just now?
What pissed you off ?
I’m more worried about the 71 percent of the folks here who don’t really like baseball.
Wow, you are the Judge, Jury, and the executioner, of deciding what a real baseball fan is, nice to see you think so highly of your Baseball fandom judgement .
I’m referring to you and others who seem to like bitching more than enjoying a game.
I have a problem with being brutally honest, so when a player is playing bad, I can not lie and post that he is playing great, just to make the homer fans like you happy .
“I have a problem with being brutally honest”
You have a problem with being clueless.
Have to go to the insults already !
The hushed, I’m interviewing someone in a library tone, coupled with the long dramatic pauses between questions.
LOL. You need a beer, dude.
What a great idea!!! Does anyone in the clique, I mean click, wanna join me? We’ll drink to Lefty’s Russian Voyage.
Can I just have a vodka-based cocktail instead of going all the way to Russia?
I don’t think so. Penance must be served.
I just got back from Portland last night and I’m going to Seattle on Tuesday. That will have to do.
Nope, you need to at least go as far as Alaska. I hear you can see Russia from there.
“Luc” – French bistro on Madison/17th St. Yum!
I respect Amy G, but I have to say that any time she starts a question with “Talk about…” or “Take me through…”–I grit my teeth. Maybe work on some variety.
That still makes her interviews far and away better than the boyz.
I HATE overhyped, loud and over-energized interviews. The same goes for announcers of all ilks.
Stop yelling at me.
Now, who’s yelling?
Ummm… you? Or is it me?
Rob (said softly) Listen to CC.
I did. I’ve already had 6 beers. NOW I CANT STOP YELLING.
She’s just practicing to do golf tournaments
Some curmudgeons don’t allow for our opinions.
I agree. She gets more interesting comments from ballplayers she interviews than even Krukow and company do.
I guess I must’ve missed those.
The jocks set a low bar.
Matt Moore has some serious choppers
Very white. I’ve noticed that before. You’d think he worked in Hollywood.
Affeldt: Looks the Gamer Babes are hot right now.
Me: groooooan, just stop right there, Jeremy
Kuiper: Mike would tell you that ALL Gamer Babes are hot.
(Me: Oh, no, he wouldn’t.)
I had the SAME thought.
The preceding commentary was brought to you by The Pagan Butt Squad
I thought Trump de-funded PBS?
They held an on-air fundraiser offering a signed CD selection of “Angel’s Greatest Hits”…free with a 6 month subscription. It includes favorites like “The Bubble Butt Bounce”, “The Hair Up There”, “Any Given Sundae” and many, many more
Did you see where Windy got him to bleach his hair blonde? Did the whole PR team do that? SMH
Yadi Molina looked like an unhappy gecko
Carlos Beltran is particularly disturbing. It all started with the Cub’s Baez, who wanted to be incognito in Chicago post WS.
Yes, I’m sure that will work out well for him.
Funny you say that! A kid that worked for me , who is a huge Cubs fan, ran into Mr. Trying To Be Incognito on Ontario by Trader Joe’s. He was wearing about 45 gold chains, a blue leather Cubs jacket, and the rest of his family were all wearing various and sundry Cubs bling. She high-fives him
Yes, it’s obvious how much he dislikes attention. Poor introverted guy.
Perhaps his idea of incognito is different than mine.
He is proposing to do so because he wants the country to be too stupid and uneducated to question the actions of his administration.
I don’t recall ever once mentioning Pagan’s butt. I will, however, cop to commenting on players’ appearances (you know, the guys who signed up to be public figures). I don’t recall ever commenting on the appearance of an audience member, however, nor have I referred to any guy as “hot” or a “babe” on national broadcast media. And I certainly have never referred to half of the audience by a gender-biased derogatory term.
I might have mentioned Angel’s butt a few times. I repent.
Wait! Stop upvoting! I meant to say “Touchy!”
LOL. Can’t tell for sure if you are joking or not, but either way that comment is exceedingly funny!
In the case of my posts, there is a rule: Always err on the side of “trying to be funny”
It would almost have been funnier the other way.
As my Czech friend said, not everyone has a sense for humor.
To je fakt. Ale jsem velmi smesny.
Only language I can even remotely claim to know other than English.
Krukow’s “Gamer Babe” label has never been based on appearance.
Doesn’t matter. I believe that every woman who posts on here frequently has, at one time or another, commented on how much we hate the term and find it offensive. It needs to be retired.
I remember you commenting on Brownie’s appearance.
I believe you are mistaken about that, good sir.
But the Gamer Babe gizmo was originated by four humans of your gender. Mike did not start the fad.
(or so my story goes)
Giants are now on the MLB channel.
Man, Parker is just a bundle of nervous energy in the box, isn’t he?
Twitchy looks, on occasion, he might self-combust or shed his skin. He does seem tohave changed his leg kick a bit. Better timing??
He was like that when I saw him play in the AFL in 2013.
Drives me nuts with his Mr. Twitchy act.
Baggs had a great article today about how Parker and Trevor Brown reached out to Hwang and made him feel welcome.
Shame on those others who made him feel unwelcome 😉
They took the initiative, is what I meant.
I know what you meant, but you threw me a softball. I couldn’t resist
So happy that Hwang brings some positivity and fun to the ballclub. Hope the team rewards him on his performance and he gets added to the Opening Day roster.
You just seem determined to turn me into a Parker fan, don’t you? I will not be led down that path without kicking and screaming. 😉
I’m just tired of PJ accusing me of being a Parker hater when that’s YOU. I’M the one who talks about Angel’s butt, but I guess to this crowd, all women commenters look alike. 😉
That’s not true, DrLeftappalledy7.
Orange and Black.
Ha ha ha. True!
It’s exhibition season and I’m already tremendously over the Maaco ads
I’m stuck on how much trouble Chris Paul is always having at his house. Skunks, trees falling, teammates “crashing the glass” and “on the paint.” It’s probably good he got injured. He needs to be at his State Farm agent’s office full-time.
Mid-season form! You go, Jefe’
OK, Peter, NOW throw him under the tractor!
Amy’s been hitting the gym it looks like.
You leave her alone!!!
No disrespect, she’s sacrosanct (like the vestals of yore).
Fresh faces on the umpire roster, but, alas, Dave reports it’s not because anyone got fired for cause.
Shoot….thought Angel Hernandez and Joe West would have gotten the axe.
Of course they should … but umpires get neither promoted nor retained on merit.
Joe makes it clear that he’s the boss. Got to keep the punks in line.
I’m just amazed Joe West is still working. The man does not look healthy.
Dont worry about Smarge … the Giants always said that the pitching coach, the defense and the ballpark would turn him into an ace … clearly only one of the 3 are present.
These guys just insist in keeping Cain in the mix.
Matt Cainmardzija! Looking good!!!!
I wonder if Shark’s wretched spring makes them more or less likely to run with Cain at the #5. I’m thinking maybe less. You can “carry” Cain for awhile if the other four guys are solid, but right now, Smardge is not.
You paid him off during your visit, didn’t you?!?!?!
I don’t think we saw him pitch…he started the day after we left.
Mm hmm….yup. Never saw him. Nope. Gotcha
Except over mojitos on the back patio at The Mission…
Who do you favor for No. 5 now? Don’t say Blach, except against the Dodgers.
I’ll say Blach right now against anyone.
Well, I WOULD say Blach, but since you said not to, I’d give Beede a shot.
Blach’s severe platoon splits make him an unlikely success over a stretch, no?
He was pretty good in the minors, and he’s smart and a hard worker. We’re talking the #5 spot, not Bumgarner’s spot. I think he could handle it, and he deserves a shot.
True. Cain’s splits are much more equal. .455 each side!
It’s kinda cute to watch these kids all lose their facial baby fat…I remember how pudgy faced Buster was…now, looking at Panik, same thing
He needs to wear sunglasses over his mouth.
Yep–Moore AND Panik with the pearly whites. Do they give away free whitening strips in the clubhouse or something?
So THAT’S what Beckham is giving out. Knew it was something.
Speaking of, there was a cannabis shop across the street from the Oregon Convention Center in Portland. Just right there in case you wanted a break from the conference.
They probably should re-locate to the booth next to the one where you pick up your badges.
That would be better. It rains quite a bit in Portland. I wasn’t especially inclined to leave the building.
They could call it:
“You don’t need no stinking badges.”
maybe you could pick-up something nice for your dog walker..
Oh, that’s why he’s still on the team.
And he has facial hair. Our little Joe is starting to look more like la grown up than a Boy Scout.
Steven “No Drama” Okert. He’s gotta have that spot sewn up, doesn’t he?
They still might keep 3 southpaws.
Yes, I suppose that’s possible.
I’m always in favor of 3 southpaws. But, that’s obviously contingent on Osich being ’15 version and not ’16.
The third one could be Blach, if they let Cain start in the rotation. They don’t have a real long man, otherwise.
Also true. I was penciling Blach into the rotation in that scenario. What can I say, I’m a dreamer.
Be careful. Dreamers get exported
I love free vacations.
I think Bochy- like most managers- likes an experienced guy as the swing man. Suarez might be that guy if he has a couple good outings.
He’s been improving as the spring progresses.Last time out he had to get 5 outs- last year he would have blown up.
Now Lefty is paying off umps.
Team had no reason to not look sharp today. Panic and Crawford can’t mean to the overall success of this team or this team is in trouble. And I’d u think ST doesn’t mean much that’s total BS.
Totally. I really thought they would’ve had this March 19th game vs the Brewers circled on their schedule.
Easy for you to dismiss a sluggish showing. You know you would feel better if they showed more this spring. This team is not going to score a lot. Mark my words
Mark them with Louis the Rally Dog?
I always mark your words. You’re the reason I keep a red felt pen handy at all times.
This sort of situation was predictable don’t you think, given how many ‘maybes’ were invited to ST. So maybe you should use invisible ink.
Problem is the sure things to make the team are not hitting , Pence, Span,.
I think the opposite, PJ. Those guys are just pacing…the dudes trying to make the team have something at stake…Pence, Span (and others) don’t
Nobody ever tries to make outs, is that what pacing is, if it is they are good at it .
so how are these “maybees” keeping the actual players the team is counting on from playing to form? That’s a BS excuse and you know it. Sure you can argue that it’s affecting the overall record, but I’m pointing to individual performances that are notably concerning.
Uh oh. Sunday Efrain showed up