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Dr Lefty
Hackin’ Hector
Since leaving the Giants after 2015, Hector Sanchez is now 6 for 12 with three home runs against them…and that doesn’t count a homer he hit a few weeks ago against another former teammate, Sergio Romo. Some might grumble that he never hit like that for the Giants, but I actually remember that Hector had a knack for coming up with the big hit, especially as a pinch-hitter. I remember one in extra innings in Milwaukee during his rookie year, a walk-off hit vs. the Dodgers on Jackie Robinson Day (also in extras), a dramatic three-run homer with two outs and two strikes in the ninth for a comeback win in D.C….anyway, good on ya, Hector. It stings a tiny bit less losing to an old friend. Hector was a good Giant, and you could argue that Buster Posey owes a sliver of that 2012 MVP trophy to him.
MadBum is Back
What were you expecting from him last night? Was part of you remembering that he got knocked around in A ball just 10 days ago? Maybe some shaky command, struggling to get through innings? Well, there was none of that. Bum struck out the side in the first inning–usually his toughest inning–to put an exclamation point on “I’m Back!” He worked efficiently and looked like his old self. It was too bad about the two homers, especially the one to Blash that gave up the lead, but overall, I thought it was a great first outing back for him. One of the beat writers noted that only once in the last 15 games had a Giants starter gone seven innings. Bum now has five quality starts in five appearances this season…
Offensive Execution
…and the Giants are 0-5 in his starts. That’s why, at the end, you can’t get TOO mad at MadBum. It’s possible and even likely that their record would have been pretty much the same with him as without him. Anyway, what’s the old line? “Coach, how do you feel about the execution of your offense?”–“I’m in favor of it.” (“Execution…” get it?) The Giants had Jhoulys Chacin on the ropes in the first two innings–base runners everywhere, pitch count mounting. Then they got two runs and the good ABs went away. Crawford had a leadoff double in the third and then nothing but a two-out walk until Panik’s homer in the sixth. The last three innings seemed over in the blink of an eye. And there you have it.
The Padres
The Padres may be bad, but they do have youthful energy and exuberance. It’s nice to see, really. Padres fans are their usual friendly, relaxed selves. We’ve been to Petco to see the Giants on six different trips now, dating back to 2006 when Bochy was still the manager in San Diego. It’s the same every time. I highly recommend this as a roadie.
Apologies for fewer pictures and live links this weekend. I can’t seem to get the links working when posting from my iPad, and it’s harder to edit screenshots, too. We’re off to Game 3 this afternoon and then to the airport to get back to our dog and the real world. Lefty out.
Breckeroni’s favorability ratings for the NL West go Giants, Padres, Rockies, Snakes and then he’s heard tell there’s another team, but they’re far off the bottom of the list. I enjoy hearing the remarks people like you always make about the fun and fan graciousness involved in the games at SD. I should try it myself sometime!
Thanks for your usual nice Saturday reporting, this time live from the stadium.
Go Snakes. They are unraveling a bit, or is it uncoiling, at the moment. Not a rockslide, but they are falling out or reach of the high inertia Bumbos.
The Giants through the years, winning and losing, good times, bad times, we’ve all had our share. As The Oracle has prophesied, winning is cyclical, Giants are on a downturn – hopefully with a quick turnaround. It’s been a real nice run over the last 130+ years.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/075f1c99ca9319eebe0cf39270183b5dad26e5b6a3b02512410d7f42c6ead547.jpg
Wow, that’s one bumpy graph you put out there, Foots, but I can’t see what the X and Y axes represent. I’m guessing season W/L records. We are on a downturn but if we get our act together and work on the scouting/development side of our MiLB system things can turn around with greater speed. Meantime, we do have players to enjoy watching and for the time being we’ll have to get our jollies from that.
It’s his Who I Want To Trade For graph
as if that makes sense
I know, right?!
Winning percentage versus year. You can tell the integral of that curve is above 0.500, even though there is a theory that after a long enough period, a franchise should not win more than half their games. Our franchise is special:
Seasons: 135 (1883 to 2017)
Record: 10,986-9,472, .537 W-L%
Playoff Appearances: 26
Pennants: 23
World Championships: 8
and that is why the dip at the end is so darned infuriating. That’s just not Giants baseball. It is time to drive in one more run in each rally, give up one less homer in mid-game, make one more good defensive play, and win series on a regular basis again.
Amen, 610.
Cool graph, thx.
Hat tip to baseball reference. Can do it on fangraphs too, but you can download any table to excel and work with it from there. I had fun drawing the pennants. The trophy was asking too much of my finger tip mouse.
Well that “dip at the end” does represent our current 1902 level of futility. We also had too many perfect storms this year (Moore blowing up, Pence trending down, Crawford mired in a BA bummer, Smarge on a pace to equal his terrible 2015 year for both ERA and HR given up, Buster making outs or sac flies when singles would score 2, and on it goes). I think our 2nd half has got to feature better play but, equally, better LUCK.
i went with W% because as you know, they didn’t always play 162 🙂
X is years from 1883 (Gothams) to present
well that is really cool little graph you did — thx !!! where’s the 3rd tiffany : )
Five black stars from NY, three orange stars from SF. Not enough room for all the pennants!
I got lazy, and the pasted Tiffany’s were crowding.
I like the sentiment of your article i.e., we lost but Bum is back!! The loss is inconsequential because this whole season is lost. Long term it’s Bum’s health that’s really important for us. You make Petco sound really inviting. Must be a lot of late risers on TWG because your post only has a couple comments!
Petco is really great–the park, the neighborhood, the vibe. I haven’t been to all the parks in MLB, but of the ones I’ve been to, non-AT&T division, Petco is by far my favorite.
I agree, but I sort of like Wrigley too. The park, not necessarily all the folks.
Here’s my list. Still a lot of parks to get to.
1. AT & T
2. Petco
3. Coors
4. Citi Field (NY)
5. Dodger Stadium
6. Fenway (for the vibe, not the amenities)
7. Wrigley (see Fenway)
8. Yankee Stadium
9. Nationals Park
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(Waaaaay down there)
–Shea Stadium (retired)
–O.Co
–Tropicana Field in Tampa Bay
Let’s win today behind Shark and get two out of three in SD. Looking for the good in this bad season, I hope the Giants Nation/Giants Vacation group had a great time in San Diego this weekend. They looked and sounded great Friday and Saturday nights.
thanks so much DrLefty for your posts — always fun to read and makes me think a bit ! Just saw reports that Sandoval would “love to return to SF” and my response to that should be over somebody’s dead body — the man still needs to get his head together about the discipline it takes to be a pro MLBer. the Giants have enough reclamation projects on their hands…….aaaaahhhhhhh !!!
Lefty can we get a “food review” from your visit to SD ???
Friday night before the game: We had happy hour at Donovan’s, a nice steakhouse right by the park. We had sirloin skewers and popcorn shrimp, both delicious, and on happy hour prices, cheaper for both dishes than my (also delicious) cocktail was!
Yesterday lunch: George’s Ocean Tavern in La Jolla. Rooftop spot overlooking La Jolla Cove. We had sangria, ceviche, and fish tacos. The food was good and the view was fabulous.
After the game last night: We went to JSix, the restaurant in our hotel (Kimpton Solamar at the corner of, you guessed it, Sixth and J). Had burgers. Hit the spot.
Brunch before the game today: Will report back. Going to the restaurant in the new Pendry hotel across the street from Solamar. Also eyeing the fish tacos in the park–they’re famous, and the guy next to us at the game had one and it looked delicious!
sounds very yum all the way around — thanks ! love when the booze bill outranks the food $$$ : )
This San Diego junket is fun because there are so many great places right around the ballpark, and you can go fill up on happy hour before a night game. Much better than ballpark food lines and prices.
I often wonder what it’s like for these players on a team like the Giants in the two weeks before the trade deadline.
Jeff Samardzija is taking the hill today, knowing that Houston is doing background checks on him. Did Evans say anything to him or his agent? Is he entertaining the thought? Has he fallen in love with SF? What does his wife think? Does a Midwest kid want to live in Houston?
And how will he perform today with the noise?
Brandon Belt us, again, at the top of trade chatter locally. Is he fed up with it? Does he want to be moved? Was he watching the weak Yankees 1B’s in the clubhouse before the game last night?
Must be weird.
Should be interesting to hear about scouting presence for Shark today. What’s Evans response on the tele?
Thanks but no thanks, he’s part of our future
or
Go on, I’m listening… you’re gonna have to do better than that.
It might be good to move Samardzija’s contract in view of the poor chance to move Cueto’s. Jeff has been good this year, not great, and his salary ought to be enough to buy a professional OF.
The resident scouts have been on point – a graph of Span’s athletic prowess shows a steep plummet. No CFers ready to take his place. Duggar did return to San Jose rehab, but I don’t know, that’s asking a lot. They need to be able to turn Cueto or Shark or somebody into a high quality CF prospect. They just got to.
San Jose to SF is a long distance (in baseball terms). Do you know where Heliot Ramos is playing, maybe in center? There’s players in the pipe line, but it is a long pipe. Jarrett Parker now the big hope in the immediate furture?
(I like “Snakes are uncoiling” by the way).
vulnerable when they are uncoiled, aren’t they. you get many snakes in your area? As a kid?
I guess that’s a sort of lawn and garden report, others can skip reading this.
Iowa has non-poisonous snakes, such as garter and brown. I usually see garter snakes in my lawn 2 or 3 times a year, but not so far in 2017. Unfortunately, some of the observations are from my mower’s seat, too late to take evasive action. But sometimes they come through unharmed, as they are low to the ground.
They say that rattlers are in the far SW corner of Iowa, but I’m skeptical. We had them in Kansas growing up, in small numbers. I used to hear about snake hunts in Oklahoma growing up (“tastes like chicken”). My only scary story was once on vacation we were walking around the SMU campus in Dallas, Saturday morning long before any student would have woken up, and found a rattler sunning on the steps of one of the old halls there. They are definitely an appropriate symbol for a team in Arizona.
I was sent to the P’s office by HS Physiology teacher because I had a garter snake in my shirt. Shirley M. went bat-shit crazy when it crawled out my sleeve during class.
Ramos leads off and plays CF. He’s considered a five-tool prospect.
Bryan Reynolds plays center. From what I’ve read, Duggar is the best defensive CF prospect in the pipeline. The beat writers say Duggar will go right to AAA as soon as he’s healthy enough. He spent the second half of last season in AA and hit .320, so it’s not as big of a jump as it might sound.
Duggar played RF with Jebavy in CF last nite, FWIW. Takin’ it easy on leg? Will they continue caution at AAA advancement? And what of Slade Heathcott? Might they put him on 40 man and give him a run?
That was the first time, I believe, that Duggar has even played the field–I think in his previous games, he just DH’ed. I’m guessing that going easy on him because of the hamstring is the right assumption.
Heathcott’s hitting .260-something in AA. Doesn’t scream put me on the 40.
he’s got some pop though. Duggar hit 1 HR amidst his .320 run last year. How is Heathcott’s D is the ? He’s got some speed and some SBs, IIRc
I guess CF is the place where I don’t care so much about pop. I want great defense. HRs would be a bonus.
He turns 27 in September. Not a prospect.
Right, and thank you. But can he play CF at the Big Top and hold the fort until something better comes along?
Yeah – but is he a player?
From what the beat writers say, the Giants are extremely high on Duggar’s chances to be the CF of the future. It’s not exaggerating to say that if he’d started the season healthy, he might already be in SF. It’s very unfortunate the development time he’s lost this year.
They’d be much better served if they could find a superior CF prospect and Duggar could then be the 2nd option, or possible platoon partner.
They certainly could use a major-league-ready outfield prospect, or two or three. Definitely some in the pipeline, but how long will they take, and anyway, prospect are just…well, you know.
I absolutely would flip Samardzija for that kind of prospect (and hopefully something else, too, like a young starter or a lefty reliever). Love the Shark, but a guy with a 4.58 ERA and his track record just isn’t going to be missed that much.
He and Slater both. We had high hopes, now both are question marks. That being said, I’m staying positive and thinking Slater comes to ST completely healthy and ready to play.
No. Thank you. No.
Good writeup, Doctor. Really. Measured, informative, and a a way to follow the Gs without pointing fingers, or getting uptight. Thank you.
I’m pointin’ my fingers… (sticky fingers?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-ZiYZ5pN3Y
Pretty funny, that’s good timing.
I saw Puig pointing 2 fingers at some fans, after launching a homer. Thought I was seeing things. But no, and he paid for the pointing. Probably worth it when you’re winning about 9 out of 10 games you play.
I did not see the retribution. Did he get plunked? Well, he and his boys are having fun. Something about winning and chemistry and having 7 out of 9 guys in the lineup with OPS .800 or greater. Jeez louize.
Brisbee said they’re 28-4 in their last 32 games (!) – starting to look like that Tiger team of decades ago. (Weren’t they 45-5 or something crazy like that?)
The 1984 Tigers started the season 35-5. That race was over quickly! They won the WS that year, beating the Padres in five games. Kirk Gibson was magnificent. The Padres eliminated the “jinxed” Cubs on the ground ball that went through the legs of Leon Durham.
Now THAT’S a good memory. Gracias!
I think the retribution was another day off. Which, the De are so deep he gets plenty of those anyway. It’s the best team on the field right now.
Although my exposure to the Houstons is limited.
Lots of great blues out of there. E.g., Carolyn Wonderland. Wowsa!
Panik doubles
Pence with three HR type swings = strikes out
They needed to move the leadoff double guy – Panik – to third base
Ah, but alas, that’s our Hunter, unconventional
So Pence was hitting sixth and Panik was hitting seventh last night. On Friday, Panik was hitting eighth and still lower than Pence. What game are you talking about? Or maybe you meant Crawford’s leadoff double in the third? Pence did hit behind Crawford last night.
Yes it was here below. Had Pence gotten him over, Paniks ground ball would have most likely been an RBI.
My thoughts are that a hitter with no outs has to get that guy over on his first two swings. Trying to do it with two strikes usually does not happen.
Top of the 3rd, Giants Batting, Ahead 2-0,
Brandon Crawford Double to LF (Ground Ball)
Hunter Pence Strikeout Swinging
Joe Panik Groundout: SS-1B (SS-2B); Crawford to 3B
Gorkys Popfly:
0 runs, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 LOB. Giants 2, Padres 0.
just read that Cueto thinks this year’s baseballs are “tighter” thus his 3 blister causing DL stint — what the heck does this mean ? does he mean the stitches on the balls are different ? there is something off about the feel of the leather …. what ??? I know you all will have opinions……
My question is, in this modern era of analytics and analytical devices, how hard can it be to test different parameters of balls being used this year and last year with balls from a few years back? What’s the fiction coefficient of the surface? What is the tension of the leather? The height of the seams?
How far does ball travel when struck with a mechanical bat swinging device?
Have the spin rates from pitchers changed? Are balls spinning less out of their hands?
I like your Freudian Typo. “Coefficient of Fiction”
As Cueto said earlier. He has to grip the ball tighter to get it to spin (move, break?). Lower seams mean less break.
Should see less spin and less break across the league in StatCast data.
Maybe. What the data say?
that shit is privy to special people, and perhaps, there lies the rub
The hidden mind does amazing things. What the heck is going on Bapah!? Inquiring minds want to know!
Hot, tired, and just bored by everything. Mostly, just too damned hot here.
Futures on that kind of stuff promising. Get thee out of the desert!
Nice bit of overcasm to dampen the fury of the sun this morning. Might come short of the century mark.
I’m wishing I hadn’t sold my boat.
i’m guess it was a money pit
Not so much if you live aboard.
Stinkin’ hot and humid down here too Bap. Fortunately we got 1.5″ of rain last night.
I wish.
The 538 article says it IS hard to measure, since the tests have to be done with actual game-used balls from each season – but it has been done.
p.s. What’s also interesting is that the balls can meet MLB standards, but the standards are so loose that it can result in vastly different feeling baseballs.
Ferrari and minivan!
You might want to Google a few articles. There was one on The Ringer this week that dove in. There appear to be two likely results of baseballs being wound tighter with lower seams: increases in blisters and home runs. It’s conjecture, but reasonable to infer.
538 has an extensive article too – describing the baseball as smaller, and ‘bouncier’ since 2015 – since which, HRs are up 47% (!!!).
Yeah, not bad for “pablum”.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/in-mlbs-new-home-run-era-its-the-baseballs-that-are-juicing/
Another of Hector’s great games as a Giant , April 23rd 2014, Giants @ Rockies, game tied 7 to 7 in the 8th, Hector hits a 430 ft HR to right, the Rockies tie the game at 8 the game goes to extra innings and Hector hits a 438 ft Grand slam in the 1tth, and the Giants win 12 to 10 .
Yes, I was thinking about that one, too. IIRC, Hector entered that game late, on a double-switch or something, and hit two HRs, including the grand slam.
By the way the Giants hit 6 HRs in that game, 2 from Sanchez, 2 from Morse, 1 from Belt, 1 from Hicks, but the Giants do not need power to win . That team went 42 -21 a large part because they hit lots of HRs early in the season, when they stopped hitting them they started to lose a lot, Belt got hurt, Morse cooled off , Hicks stopped hitting period .
Peter…again…NO ONE says “the Giants do not need power to win”. I get your frustration that the team doesn’t have enough power. But…please.
They do, Marty interviewed Bobby Evans last night and said it, Bobby and Larry Baer both said it on KNBR, they love to sight the 2012 Giants as an example.
Once again, I think there is nuance to what they actually say, and you take it to a literal stance that isn’t the actual message
Peter doesn’t no the meaning of nuance, any more than the difference between or and are. Don’t think he’s very well rounded in the education dept. he does like a home run, though.
Straight A’s , ASS HOLE !
Down boy. You don’t even know me. Easy does it. Let’s pretend we’re all intested in the same thing.
Did you skip Grammar? How’d you do in etiquette? Manners? I think they called it citizenship in my day. They couldn’t have given you an A in “gets along well with others.”
Photographic Memory got me by and what my memory tells me about you , your a smart alec , that thinks he is cool because he plays Music and gets High .
No Peter, JStreet thinks he’s cool because he plays music and gets high.
I’m with Slik, you guys are cracking me up today.
You should be ‘cited’ for your scholarly work.
Liked the “doesn’t no” part.
Thought you would.
Regardless of his style, Peter speaks a lot of truth about the Giants and makes a lot of good points. You, who tout yourself as an expert, say things like Susac is a budding star and Matt Cain is going to have a bounce back season.
I know you’d like to pick a fight, but I only commented to J. Sounds like harping to me. Keep it up, though, you’re just being true to form. Want to poke me with your nightstick?
Who was it who said over and over Lincecum was going to be great again?
A think what he said at the time was that Lincecum wasn’t as bad as many were saying he was. Compared to what’s happening this season, he wasn’t.
You think wrong. He was going to be “great again” after the hip surgery.
lolol making me laugh!!
I like the sitcom idea. Maybe we could get a spinoff series. “The Blak and the Bold”. True stories of truck driving, baseball obsessed musicians and friends.
You and Peter need your own sitcom!
The Anti MLBSF
They were last in HRs, but timing meant a lot. You can make the case they were lucky in that timing, and that’s fine. The game hasn’t changed so much in 5 years. They’ve just lost everything else that team had. Everything.
There does seem to be a contact-hitter drafting and developing philosophy, though. I mean, how many serious power hitters are there in the pipeline?
Mac and Parker–both buried now, maybe forever. Shaw. Quinn at San Jose. Maybe Ramos, eventually.
But we have a lot of the Duffy/Panik/Arroyo/Gomez/Duggar types.
I get building for the park–and that’s a big part of why the 2012 team did what it did, including speed, triples, and good outfield defense. But maybe they’ve gone too far and need some balance.
Somebody (CC?) said nothing will change until they change the park. It seems heretical – but I wonder if any OF wall modifications are possible that would not look mickey mouse. Wonder if the brain trust has ever looked into that.
Try TO. Sometimes it’s almost funny the way attributions float around. They lost that game last night because of the hanging curveball, not a lack of power or contact.
Didn’t mean to impugn you.
The 2012 team lead MLB triples with 57, next closest 52, were 7th in MLB in doubles, Pagan set career highs in both departments, Posey career high in Doubles and HRs, Melky was on pace for career highs before he was busted. Zito won 15 games, Cain had a career year, Vogey was leading the NL in ERA until mid August, Bum was having career year at the time until a late slump . The point team was full of players having career years, Core 4 in Bullpen in prime, Scutaro hit .350 as a Giant, can not count on that, small margin for error without Power .
Isn’t the coaching and the organizational development folks that just can’t do it? Seems like every year I read about drafted players who have potential power … they just never do.
2014 Giants splits for proof of this, in April of 2014 the Giants hit 32 HRs and the team was 16-11 that month, in May 2014 the Giants hit 29 HRs and were 20-9 that month, in June 2014 the Giants hit only 14 HRs and were 10-16, in July 2014 they hit only 16 HRs and were 12-16, In August 2014 the Giants hit 23 HRs and were 16 -12, in September 2014 the Giants hit 16 HRs and were 13-12 .
what was the SP ERA for each of those months?
It was good June and July Timmy throw great in those months 1 run allowed in over 30 innings over 4 starts, problem was they stopped scoring 93 runs in June 85 in July, the Team ERA in July was 3.26 . in June it was 4.31,
Pretty sure he hit a pinch hit HR, perhaps a slam, at Petco late in his Giants tenure … I just don’t have the memory to know when.
Clearly, the theme song of the team down south, the LAnnisters. For the Giants (House Stark), winter has come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygcff7xaZfk
Here it comes!
http://www.csnbayarea.com/athletics/trade-relievers-doolittle-madson-washington?cid=email:CSN%20Bay%20Area%20Breaking%20News:2015+-+NBCS+BayArea+Breaking+News:26584
doesn’t sound like much of a haul for Forsto. Will have to dig deeper…
7) Sheldon Neuse, 3B, Grade B-: Age 22, second round pick in 2016 from University of Oklahoma; hit .230/.305/.341 in New York-Penn League, well off the .369/.465/.646 spring he had for the Sooners; best tool is arm, college shortstop looked comfortable at third base in NY-P; will need to get the hitting back to project well at the hot corner but scouts still seem confident that he will hit for average and moderate power with more adjustment time. ETA late 2019. – JS
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=neuse-000she&utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-
Luzardo
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=luzard000jes
Treinen: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/treinbl01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-
When I first saw that player’s name, Jesus Luzardo, I thought of the great late-80s/early-90s noise rock band The Jesus Lizard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoxXKKQYJYQ
Good — go Nats. Will need Doolittle against Dodger power.
would like to see dusty do well this go around
Now THAT’S foresight.
I think most baseball fans know that Denny McLain was the last 30 game winner, going 31-6 in 1968. Since McLain, what has been the highest single season win total for a pitcher and who were the two pitchers who reached it? It’s happened once in each league and one guy is much more obvious than the other.
Bob Welch and Steve Carlton with 27?
I like yours better
You got it.
Bonus question…how about the next highest total after that, and who?
Juan Marichal had 26 once
He did, but that was in ’68, the same year as McLain.
Even more impressive in that year of the pitcher: Bob Gibson’s ERA: 1.12!
Further evidence of pitcher dominance that year. Yastrzemski won the AL batting title with a .301 average and he had to put on a closing rush to reach .300. Appx September 15 that year, Yaz and the A’s Danny Cater were tied for the AL batting avg. lead…at .288!
Gibson had an 11 start stretch that season where he threw 8 shutouts and gave up a total of 3 earned runs over 99 innings.
Juan Marichual won 25 multiple times and I think 26 once .
25 twice 26 once
But never after 1968.
Wonder why?
Really? Because he got older. 1969 was his last great season.
Terrible issues with his back most likely related to the myriad of moving parts.
Dave Stieb, 26?
No. he never won more than 18. This player pitched in the AL and his team won the World Series that season.
Saberhagen?
No. Lefty.
last WAG: Frankie V, Twinkies!
Ron Guidry
Yes. 25-3 in 1978.
That was a memorable year. Guidry won Cy Young, but Jim Rice won MVP. I remember being impressed with Rice’s 406 total bases that year. I didn’t think anyone had ever done that, but I’m fairly certain now that it wasn’t a first. Still, very impressive when you think about it: if a player hit 40 HR, 15 triples, and 50 doubles he would still need 95 singles (a 200 hit season) to reach that 400 TB level.
A great year with a lot (677) of ABs.
28? Steve Carlton and Doyle Alexander?
Bob Welch with the A’s 27 wins??
Steve Carlton Phillies.
I think Carlton was on a crappy Phillies team and won almost 1/2 their games.
They were 59-103.
And Carlton won 27 of those wins. Amazing.
Definitely.
27, Bob Welch, Steve Carlton .
Who was the last 30 game winner before McLain? I am guessing Dizzy Dean, but don’t know.
Yes. 30 in 1934.
In an era when starters only get at best 33 or 34 starts instead onf 41 or 42 and only go 6 or 7 innings in most cases, I can bet that 31 win total will last my generation and many more.
Assuming the Dodgers hold onto win today they’ll be 55-18 since Bellinger’s call-up. That’s insane. Let’s hope it’s yet another year for them that fizzles in the postseason.
Certainly hope so. Getting unreal performances everywhere you look. The names in the rotation are a joke, yet the results are there. The Dodgers winning on every single gamble they took on injured guys and others with good pharmacists.
Their lineup yesterday featured 7 hitters with OPS 800 or above, the only exception of regulars Forsythe who has been injured but now has his stroke back
The Giants have 2……
Forsythe not that far below career numbers. Taylor is unexplainable, and Turner’s amazing numbers beginning at age 30 in LA can be interpreted charitably or not. Giants are said to be old at 30 now.
MVP?
Nah. That’s future Giant Bryce Harper.
It’s interesting that the Dodgers are using the All Star break to give Kershaw eight days off. Probably not a bad idea.
I think if they were smart they would skip him a few times and keep him fresher for the playoffs.
I believe that’s the thinking.
Or, thinking deviously, might there be something wrong with Kershaw’s back again?
Supposedly not.
His 3rd time through the order numbers do indicate at least he mortal now.
Crazy how good Wood has been. He’s six and dive kind a guy though.
They do seem to be protecting him this year. It sticks out in his pitch load home and away as well. For several years he’s pitched about 50/50 home and away in terms of pitches thrown. This year it’s not quite 2/1 at home, so far. Who knows if it balances out, but the do seem to be trying to decrease the stress on him, perhaps hoping to get a better performance in post season. That, and Williams is just a smarter manager than Donny two trips was.
Darrell Williams Warrior Summer Team
http://www.sfchronicle.com/warriors/article/Darrell-Williams-rebounds-from-wrongful-11291461.php
LOL, baseball-reference.com does not even have the Giants in the Wild Card race. Are they now statistically out of it?
https://www.baseball-reference.com/
Giants lineup still not published, appx two hours to first pitch?
It is now
It was tweeted out hours ago .
Sorry PJ – my comment was in direct connection with TotalFan62’s request. Not every body does the ‘Twooter’ gizmo
He kinda gets grumpy on Sunday’s
“gets?”
Yeah I follow Bags and he tweeted out the lineup hours ago, and Totalfan62 is on Twitter also, you trying to start shit again !
No – he’s telling the truth. Some families are at Church or on the Russian River – not watching ball while child observing.
The Poster that was looking for the lineup, also posted on this post Multiple times, so if he could do that, he should be able to find a lineup posted somewhere, using the device he posted on here with !
TF62 is a board regular since 2010.
So your answer is incorrect. TF62 may have stepped out to pick up Mrs. TF62 at Church.
I rest my case
Matthew your a instigator, you think it is cute, so it is ok .
Giants
1. Denard Span (L) CF
2. Eduardo Nunez (R) 3B
3. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
4. Buster Posey (R) C
5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
6. Hunter Pence (R) RF
7. Joe Panik (L) 2B
8. Gorkys Hernandez (R) LF
9. Jeff Samardzija (R) P
1. Jose Pirela (R) LF
2. Carlos Asuaje (L) 2B
3.. Wil Myers (R) 1B
4. Hector Sanchez (S) C
5. Jabari Blash (R) RF
6. Cory Spangenberg (L) 3B
7. Erick Aybar (S) SS
8. Matt Szczur (R) CF
9. Trevor Cahill (R) P
We complain about the Giants lineup, sheez, the PAAAdres don’t have much name recognition at all. I think the Giants can at least to the 3rd overall pick.
The difference being 8 figures in salary. Padres aren’t trying … and yet they are better. Having said that, Sanchez at cleanup is a riot … until you realize the Giants have no one worthy as well.
When I saw the rumor Efrain posted about Stanton last night, it was a stabbing reminder that we have NO ONE close to a “clean up” hitter
Efrain must not have read the Sabean interview, where he said the Giants will not add more salary, considering there current payroll situation, 300 Million reasons no way .
He posted a link…so I think SB Nation was the one that missed it
People can write any far fetched rumor they want, does not mean it is even close to true.
Correct.
The Padres are trying…to build a future winner.
Since 2010, at least. Up until now, they’ve become a great example of what not to do.
Not really. Just a couple of years ago they made all the moves to try to assemble an immediate winner out of veterans and fell flat.
Yes really. They may have turned over a leaf under current mgmt., but the jury is still out on that.
Obviously.
I’m not sure they have the people in charge to do so. They have a really good farm system, but it should be better than it is.
Don’t look now, but the Cubs are in good shape to start the second half 3-0.
I expect them to win the Division, Brewers too young and not enough Pitching .
Speaking of pitching, Quintana with 5 scoreless and 8 Ks
He had been listed as the 20th best pitcher in MLB last week even though somebody here dismissed the trade as for next year and also that he wasn’t ‘all that’.
#Perplexing
who did you just “get” ?
Footy homework time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0tNw4jNp28
I most certainly will not look.
I say:
Dodgers, Nats, Cubs.
Rockies, Diamondbacks …Az wins wild card game
Dodgers over Az
Washington over Chicago
Heart: Nats over LA
Head: LA over Nats
DBacks & Brewers Wild
The Quintana Effect
Giants PreGame Notes
http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/9/8/4/242440984/07.16.17_at_SD_Game_Notes_2cc9y30z.pdf
This Date in Giants History: July 16, 1993
Darren Lewis set a Major League record by playing his 267th consecutive game without an error in the Giants’ 4-2 win over the Mets…Lewis snapped Don Demeter’s previous record.
Padre PreGame Notes
http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/2/4/2/242451242/Padres_Game_Notes_July_16_2017_vs._SF_jugydnh9.pdf
Matt Williams just said that Gorkys is a “fabulous outfielder.”
what was Willie Mays? Manuel Margot?
Reputation in Baseball dies hard, and Gorkys has a reputation as a great defensive outfielder .
For all those off Twitter, Belt scratched with strained wrist .
uh oh
Giants get Stanton yet?? Make it happen!!!
220 Million dollar Payroll next year, not going to happen .
I need a movie
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Nice job Lefty!