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Tonight’s Game: Pirates (49-50) Vs Giants (38-62) at Willie Mays Field, 7:15 PM
Gerritt Cole (7-7, 4.18) Vs. Matt Cain (3-8, 5.49)
The Giants may have a tough time avoiding that dreaded 100 loss mark.
That Andrew Baggarly article sure is interesting.
The Giants face Gerritt Cole tonight. The Pirates ace is having a tough year though his team is back in the thick of it for the division race.
The Giants official pregame notes are here.
Five Questions
- Was 1985 a tougher year than 2017 in the National League?
- Should the Giants re-sign Eduardo Nunez rather than trade him?
- Who is the most-feared hitter on the Pirates?
- Will Cain get past the 5th inning tonight?
- Should the Giants consider trading BCraw?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXS9dfzUbxw
Awesome.
It’s not modern, foresure. Can you imagine the process control diagram, if you’re a Deming dude at all? I love the needle routine at the end to raise the seams. Gee what could go wrong.
1. No
2. They can do both. Trade him now, resign him after the season
3. Chris Stewart
4. Yes.
5. No.
Ex-Giant catchers do have a way of destroying us.
ex-backup catchers…
If someone signs Quiroz, we’re screwed
Fortunately the Giants are keeping Eli Whitesides gainfully employed.
Yes but only catchers that weigh overweight and short for a catcher.
You’re just saying Chris Stewart to cover for your bromance with Gorkys.
Span
Nuñez
Belt
Posey
Craw
Pence
Panik
Gorkys
Cain
I always like to see the tilde over the n in Spanish names.
Q: “How do you pronounce ñ in English?”
A: “The Spanish alphabet has two more letters than the English alphabet. One of them is the Ñ. The Ñ is a letter that’s an N with a little thing on the top that you see in front of you. It’s pronounced like the “ni” in “onion.”
1. No because I was too young to remember 1985.
2. Re-sign him to a fair contract that isn’t “Crawford-esque” because he’s on the wrong side of 30 and has been on the DL more times than I can count.
3. McCutchen
4. No.
5. Yes. I don’t consider him an “untouchable” and never did. Great glove but below avg. hitting. He peaked in 2015 and 2016.
For anybody who missed Jeremy Affeldt being interviewed at ATT at the Patio House before the game on last Friday – the guy is a complete walking/sitting comedian. Tolbert and Lund got him to talk about game 7 in KC in depth using baseball grunts and groans etc. He said that Bochy got with him and a few pitchers very early before the game and Affeldt reflected that Boch actually has the biggest stones of anybody. He tells Affeldt, “Well Jeremy, based on their/KC comments about we don’t have to see Bumgarner anymore … …. I’m going with Bum as early as I can:.
Boch told Affeldt you really have to be ready EARLY because I WILL take Huddy out as early as the second inning. Cain was there and so was Casilla and Casilla (in Affeldts mind) goofs and says “Jesus say we win tonight”.
So Affeldt processes that in not exactly a good way….saying out-loud to SC “oh great – just what I need – more pressure”. Down in the bullpen says Affeldt since there “is no game 8” – pitchers are trying to stay loose but it is not working. Timmy is firing pitches so far over the catchers heads that KC fans up above are in harms way. Cain was so wild that Gardy put two catchers on either side of one bullpen home plate. The only person really stoic and docile was Bum who Affeldt said was most likely so tired that he sat there like a mannequin.
Here it is here https://audioboom.com/posts/6130632-7-21-jeremy-affeldt-says-anything-could-happen-when-the-game-is-on-the-line?t=0
So Bochy proved to be a prophet ’cause it played out just like he told Affeldt before the game. 2014 was a miracle because we couldn’t do jack with Herrera, Davis, and Holland all Series long.
PLUS there was a rather ugly vulgar incident that Flan owned up to. During the entire season one KC fan who may/may not have traveled also to SF – in a drunkin stupor kept yelling to any Giant or Coach in the Giants dugout that “we want Bumgarner”. The KC fan was a pretty vile piece of work and him and players went at it but Flan deflected most of it by making it his mission to hog-tie the fan. The fan was like 24/7 blurting out in every game, even if Bum had pitched the night before that “we want Bumgarner”. Well when the bullpen gates open and John Wayne Bumgarner sauntered in – Flan – basically unleashed on the fan. I heard what he said – but I will let you guys fill in the blanks.
I remember the story, but don’t remember what he said. I just remember it was classic.
That’s a funny story but I’ll bet the banter between Flan and this dude was not PG rated.
Cain was on the DL, not on the playoff roster .
Don’t know what to tell you other than listen to the tape. Maybe he was hurt and still WITH his teammates IN the bullpen.
does it really matter?
It does to our guy Peter!
I heard Affeldt on the radio last week and he had whoever it was howling about his hitting. He remembered an extra inning at bat where he swung at the first pitch which was above his head. They threw another one there which he took, then turned around and said, “Hey, I’m a big league hitter. I make adjustments.”
1) 85 was a fun team to watch and it was very cheap to go to Candlestick. What I see as a big difference now is that the West is a tough division, lots of stars and even teams like the Padres have young talent coming up.
2) The only acceptable answer is Nunez should be traded because he is a know commodity around the league, his worth is as high as it can be right now. And he is not a piece for the Giants future, which should be priority #1.
3) Cutch or Bell
4) No one really cares, he should be DFA’d
5) No because they don;t have a solution ready. That would change things, but they just don’t, so no.
Five Questions
1. Was 1985 a tougher year than 2017 in the National League?
*** Definitely NOT, 2017 is tougher but let’s hope there are some similarities for 2018 and 2019 like there was in 1986 and 1987. 1985 had some good guys who were hurt, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_San_Francisco_Giants_season#Roster
2. Should the Giants re-sign Eduardo Nunez rather than trade him?
*** No, my source Clem Kadiddlehopper (Pablo is returning) says that #10 is gone
3. Who is the most-feared hitter on the Pirates?
*** In this order: Josh Bell, Cutch, Marte
4. Will Cain get past the 5th inning tonight?
*** 5.2
5. Should the Giants consider trading BCraw?
*** No he has become the investors most favorite player.
1. well after the 84 season not much was expected of them. this year just seems so uninspired. i agree with sabean, they do not know how to win anymore. and then there is the Pablo thing which i find so ridic.
2. trade him
3. mccutchen, I guess
4. no
5. no
Pad worked out a multi-player trade with Royals after Giants series. Also, Jaime Garcia to the Twinkies.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/07/royals-to-acquire-cahill-maurer-buchter-from-padres-for-strahm-wood-ruiz.html
1. 2017 for sure. Giants lost 96 games in ’84 so how much tougher could 4 more losses be in ’85?
2. Trade AND re-sign…maybe.
3. McCutchen. Red hot.
4. Shouldn’t have gone past June (2016?).
5. If they can get Seager, then yes. Otherwise, willing to settle.
Uh – settle for what less than Seager?
Settle to keep him. In other words, no on trade regardless of regress offensively.
1. No (Unlike Lunch Box, I’m old enough to remember.)
2. No
3. See Matthew’s response. Best so far and quite funny.
4. Probably not
5. No. NO! Absolutely not!
5. BCraw???
Greek – have you lost your marbles???
Has this been posted yet? The Rays have acquired Romo – http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/rays-hoping-rhp-romo-can-regain-form-help-bullpen/2331227
“‘He’s got a little attitude in a good way,” SS Matt Duffy said, who played with Romo in San Francisco. “He’s not afraid of anybody when on the mound. He’s pitched in the biggest situations you can pitch in.'”
Godspeed, Sergio!
Indeed. None of us will forget the last pitch of the 2012 season to Miguel Cabrera.
was that delicious or what ??? I’m also a life long fan of the jay bruce duel in cincy
How I survived Romo v Bruce, I’ll never know!
damn i miss the duffman
me too. very very much. 🙁
#1 No, #2 No, need more power from 3rd base, #3 Bell, Rookie 1st baseman with great power, #4 Yes, he has been better than I thought in most of his starts this year. #5 No, since he has a full no trade clause and he is a lifetime Giants fan from the bay area, I doubt he will allow it . it is his choice not the Giants .
1. No, ’17 Giants on pace for more losses
2. No, I’d rather see the Giants make an effort to sign a legitimate middle-of-the-order type bat.
3. Most feared has to McCutchen, but Marte is the engine of that offense. When the Giants swept the Bucs in PNC, Marte didn’t play because of a suspension but he’s got sneaky power, ridiculous speed, and gets on base frequently. Get him out and the Giants pitching staff will have a much easier time pitching around this lineup.
4. I don’t want to put a number on it.
5. No. Plus, I wonder how much value he has around the league, considering the growing number of young talented players at the SS position.
Giants PreGame Notes http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/1/1/2/244177112/07.24.17_vs._PIT_Game_Notes_flpd50t2.pdf
This Date in Giants History: July 24, 2003
Barry Bonds celebrated his 39th birthday in style by clubbing the game winning homer off Arizona LHP Mike Myers…his walkoff solo shot gave the Giants a 3-2 win.
Pirates PreGame Notes
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I remember watching that game. Immediately before the walk-off, he threw a runner out at the plate to end the top of the tenth. Have a birthday, BLB25! 🎂🎉
John Shea 26min ago:
Rehab updates: Cueto plays catch today, could throw bullpen session tomorrow. Melancon bullpen tomorrow, could face hitters this weekend.
I read somewhere (I think one of the beat reporters asked and Bochy confirmed), that the Giants are proceeding slowly on rehabs because of the record.
If you just landed in Bizarro Giants World today ( more bizarro than reality…) one could interpret the Greek headline as saying the Giants are 1-99 going into tonight…
They are not?
It only feels that way.
Some seem to find solace in talking about memories of 2010, 2012, and 2014. Great games and comebacks and moments to be remembered, to be sure. Reminiscing has not provided much cheer for me however.
Those are great memories, without the solace. My concern is the FO stirs up those memories to create a smokescreen amidst a frenzy to keep fans in the seats. One begins to question the order of priorities the FO sees. Nice to look back, but we need to look forward to what kind of dominating pitching we can acquire to compensate for the lack of run production. Right now, Bum at #1 and not sure what we got for SP’s after that. And that’s assuming Bum wants to be here. Above average starting pitching will be the quickest road to recovery.
I don’t normally pay much attention to these questions in many posts, BUT…
I just spent over 4½. hours at the DMV trying to pay registration fees on a vehicle which took 2 attendants and 1 Supervisor (who was magnificent, BTW) to get resolved. So, I’ve pretty much had my fill of stupidity and ridiculousness today.
George, Are you frigging nuts, or what? #5 may be the dumbest thing I’ve heard today and LET ME TELL YOU, I HAVE HEARD SOME REALLY STUPID THINGS TODAY.
When BCraw can’t play SS anymore, he’ll play 3rd, when he can’t manage 3rd any more, he’ll kick Wotus to the curb and teach players how to play the infield. ARE YOU NUTS? Crawford isn’t going anywhere nor should he. When he dies, he should be buried under the infield.
Sorry, but you just hit me on a bad day.
AT&T is acknowledged sacred ground and all…but buried under the infield? Can’t we just put up his Wall of Fame plaque and call it a day?
My interpretation of #5: GG is asking a question, not stating an opinion. We’re starting to take naps in these games. GG is trying “to get us going” and keep us engaged.
I think he engaged me.
I’d say so.
I have a AAA membership for one reason only: DMV booths at the office so I never have to go into the Hell that is the real DMV.
Have a good night!
I was doing it for my son who has moved away and wants to sell his motorcycle (which he left with me), but DMV made some mistakes with his last Registration.
I used to be a member, I may re-enlist.
AAA is totally worth it.
http://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/review/primary_image/reviews/the-untouchables-1987/hero_EB19870603REVIEWS706030301AR.jpg
As reported earlier, Beede was scratched from his game today with a groin strain. He got injured during his warm-up. Could the excessive heat this summer be a contributing factor to all these injuries for the Giants?
It was in Tacoma.
77 degrees there now.
77 degrees is hot up here in the PNW. Don’t laugh. Considering it rains 9-10 months out of the year, we’ll take it.
We were in Port Angeles in June. It was turtlenecks and beanies and jackets weather. There was snowpack on trails in Olympic National Forest.
Nice.
I was about to whine about how hot it is here, but then I looked it up and it’s only 88. Time to break out the sweaters!
He better get that groin strain fixed. Isn’t he like getting married pretty soon?
How do you think he … ? Never mind
all teams have injuries. It’s not like the Giants have an “injury bug” that other teams are immune to.
Just seems that way when a fan follows only one team.
Giant who has started the most consecutive games as of today: 13 by …. ?
Clue: He came in when Slater got injured.
I shudder to think he may have the longest such streak of all on the 25-Man. … it is possible.
You have to give Gorkys some credit – many many many have played in the OF, and he’s the survivingest of them all. (clever observation, by the way)
Yes, you really do!
#TeamGorkys (now)
.330 over the last 7 weeks….
Gorkys Himnandez!!!
And that would matter if they were in a play-off race.
They are not; they are in a search for next year’s roster and GH is not going to be on it.
Given what performances you’re seeing by the players trotted out there, Gorkys is far from the largest roster or lineup issue….
At least one guy is busting ass
The whole OF is the Largest Issue and watching GH bust his ass does nothing to get you closer to the answer.
Play GH vs. Gomez, Jones, Calixte, Parker, Mac or Shaw and GH might win you one or two more games this year. The Giants should be way past that point. Look to the future and the fans will follow.
Then you feel the same way about Span and Pence? They clearly aren’t the future either. I’d love to see Parker in CF for the next month….
Here’s the deal, though; “the future” may not be any of the crop you mentioned. Maybe Shaw. Maybe Gomez. Maybe. I get the lack of enthusiasm for the vets….but, I also feel that there is a ridiculous level of vitriol towards Gorkys, who doesn’t make out the lineup. He just goes out and plays hard.
Span is auditioning for a trade to get a #15 OF Prospect. Pence can recover.
I have no vitriol for GH; it is for Bochy stubbornly running him out there at this point in the season.
I am now convinced this GH streak is about Bochy (whom I love) flipping off the FO (whom I think have tried to push young talent up as never before.)
Kind of like Lane Kiffin flipping Al Davis when he sent Janikowski out for a 75 yard field goal attempt.
Gorkys plays with some hunger. He may not be the best player we’ve ever had, but he’s got an honest way of playing the game. Hasn’t reached the going thru the motions level of play yet.
GH is not the problem but the fact he has started all those games is a symptom of the problem.
Symptoms run deep with this team and are quite problematic.
1.1985 was tough but the Giants replaced Davenport with Craig and were on the road for revival. The 2017 Gianst are in a bad position as competitors have new young stars and the Giants lack, even in the pipeline. The 2017 is better and has more underperformed but are in a more sorry position as far as a resurgence.
2. Depends on the commitment by Nunez to be a super sub and the salary and term of contract. I think two years and $6 million max. As a utility player Nunez is the best infielder the Giants have had in recent years plus he can steal bases.
3. McCutchen. I am glad his season has improved to match his past but hopes he does poorly against the Giants. Wanted the Giants to make a run at his acquisition when he was doing poorly and before I fully the train wreck that is the 2017 Giants,
4. No
5. Doesn’t Crawford have a no trade? I am not sure he is that valuable based upon current productivity and all the young SS talent. Considering salary Nunez is probably a better deal for the current Giants to retain.
Nunez is not an option at SS.
Giants better hope Crawford hits like he did in 2015 and 2016 for the rest of his contract: they can’t trade him and have him through 2021.
Nolan Arenado has 86 RBIs already. I mean… That’s just insane
There are players who’ve had over 100 at the all star break
In recent years? Who?
Juan Gonzalez, around 2001.
he had 140 RBIs in ’01 and 157 in ’98. Those were some good years for the juice.
Now they’re juicing the ball, what ya gonna do? Keeds these days, they just can’t stand a good ol’ fashioned pitching duel.
Loved that guy
Here’s the list, 90 or more RBI’s at the all-star break; last number is how many they finished the season with:
103 — Hank Greenberg, Det., 1935, 76 games, 170 RBIs.
101 — Juan Gonzalez, Texas, 1998, 87, 157.
97 — Carlos Delgado, Tor., 2003, 95, 145.
96 — Manny Ramirez, Cle., 1999, 78, 165.
95 — Josh Hamilton, Tex., 2008, 90, ?.
91 — Preston Wilson, Col., 2003, 97, 141.
91 — Harmon Killebrew, Min., 1969, 96, 140.
90 — George Foster, Cin., 1977, 89, 149.
90 — Tony Perez, Cin., 1970, 88, 129.
90 — Tommy Davis, LA, 1962, 89, 153.
90 — Lou Gehrig, NYY, 1934, 73, 165.
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press
Hack Wilson?
Juan Gonzalez most recently
My Great Uncle … Single season record of 190 RBI
Really? That’s cool. And he drove in 191 that year (1930); some researcher a few years ago discovered an RBI that everybody else missed:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/RBI_season.shtml
Haak Wilson was amazing
Not related really but I tried to play that angle.
Thanks for the correction. He must have gotten awarded another RBI since they digitized stats?
he was my uncle to hi cousin
followed by Lamb 79, N Cruz 75, Harper 75, and Goldie with 73.
85 against our guys!
First pitch has take all day to get here. It’s about time. Now let’s take it to the pirates.
Lolol take it to the Pirates I hope you’re right
Marte WILL take third if you don’t pay attention to him
Never mind.
Did Span deek Marte into thinking that he’d catch Harrison’s drive?
Should’ve been caught. Lazy flyball.
Not like he deked Evans
Miller on radio is getting on Denard Span saying he had a bad junk and he looked over at Pence before going for the ball in the Gap
Well….it was a typical Denard break on the ball….
Didn’t see it. Another Fred Flintstone jump, I assume?
Miller is not a fan of Span’s defense. Neither is Flemming.
Ya know…I was hoping to go one fucking inning without Denard getting me all pissed off about his presence…
If Sabean was being honest a few weeks back about doing whatever it takes, start there.
If Sabean isn’t doing it, he should listen to offers for Span.
He’s worth a tuna melt and a bag of Lays
Where can Bochy slot those 2 in the line-up?
I feel that way about belt the way you feel about span LOL you want to trade
Deal
What bothers me is the Giants management has a difficult time admitting to their mistakes with trades and free agent signings and things of that nature
Serenity now.
Huh?
Not a Seinfeld fan, I guess.
Yeah, but not to the TO or Sincere level I guess
It’s a Frank Costanza classic.
Not buying out of Cain’s contract after this season would be Evans’ biggest mistake since signing Span.
Schulman had an article around April: “Should the Giants pick up Matt Cain’s option for 2018?” I kid you not.
“Should” they? As if that’s the best course of action for them.
Delusional.
I don’t think you need to worry.
just saw schulman’s note about wheeler once again being put on the 10DL for a “stress reaction” — just seems to be like the NYM ruined poor Zack and what did we get for him ??? oh yeah that guy who didn’t want to be here : (
Lots of loud contact, Cain is not fooling anybody.
Hey he’s all we got
Get the ball dudes warmed up.
it’s just so damned obvious that cain no longer can consistently get major leaguers out…let one of the kids get matt’s remaining starts, and DL him till sept.
Bochy can’t do that to him after all he’s done for the team pre-2013.
Cole looks a great deal like his brother in law.
Suede Goats
As you may have noticed, Who is care?
Good thing Suarez is rested.
1) No, but we’re so bad it makes this year seem worse. That 1985 team was awful.
2) No. Good as he is and has been, it’s time to move on. Get something good for him, Bobby!
3) Still McCutchen, IMHO.
4) Yes. Into the sixth.
5) NO! He needs to have a good offseason, lose weight, get stronger. And put the tragedy of this season behind him.
Apparently your answer to #3 is spot on.
This has the makings of a 4 & 1/2 – 5 hour game.
Giants baseball…
It’s American Ninja Warrior time….
Cain on pace for 228 pitches.
And 27 runs allowed .
Should be a mercy rule after 25.
I tried to type something about Bochy showing some emotion. But Bapah nailed it. Who is care? I hope this isn’t what we’ll see for the next 2 months.
Bring on the kids. Give Suarez a start.
If I hadn’t finished my book earlier. I’d probably bail.
Yep. Lose with the guys that can help you win next season.
I’m hoping Conroy throws me out, too
I’m laying down on the plate. He’ll have to call a tow truck to get me off.
Well, thanks guys. Just got home after a dinner meeting, checked AtBat app and it’s 2-0. Do I stay up? I mean, it’s 10:30 here. Four more in the second? Good night, y’all.
Well…it’s 6-0.
You mean 6-0
If it was still 2-0 maybe
I think that makes you officially partialfan62, by the way
At least Bochy doesn’t have to watch the cluster*%#?
He can drink like the rest of us.
Maybe I should watch The Strain instead of this junk.
See you later Cain!!! Thanks for the memories.
Where you going, Pac?
I’m not going anywhere. I’m saying it for Cain who is giving me spasms.
I know…just teasing.
I think John Miller on radio just said that Brandon Crawford finally gets a hit against his wife’s husband pitching for Pittsburg As We Know
For me. Krukow, Kuiper and Miller, are too bad to listen to, Fleming is the only one that I can stand , the other 3 are just too old and make way to many mistakes, are in Krukow’s case are delusional .
Try listening to some other teams guys….they’re worse. We have it better than you think
No, You are biased, Kuiper and Miller make simple mistakes 3 times an inning, you just give them a pass, because they were great in the past , but that was the past .
No, he’s actually right. We have it better than most but I’m quickly souring on Krukow. He’s been unbearable this season and it pains me deeply to say that.
Well, of course I’m biased. I’m a Giants fan.
dude they have earned the right to make mistakes, they are old and part of the team.
You know you don’t have to turn the radio or tv on don’t you? You could watch the Bachelor if that is your liking.
No, you are biased.
Yes. I agree. That’s true. But sometimes Krukows back pocket sunshine, at times, is just a tad bit much, especially when we’re getting waxed.
I’m far from a Krukow fan…believe me.
I watched the Cubs today and if we think Mike is bad, Jim DeShaies takes it to a new level of sappy homerism
Pure 100% unadulterated sap he is.
I see your Jim Deshaies and raise you a Jeff Brantley with the Reds.
I see your tiny little Mississippian and raise you a Hawk “He Gone” Harrelson!
I fold.
the Yankees announcers are awful homers too, you would think they have won more rings during the past decade.
I don’t know if it’s age, but Fleming is the only one I can listen to: Kruk is such a homer that it’s unbearable and Kuiper and Miller make too many mistakes (especially with players’ names).
You’ve never listened to another broadcast team, I see.
I have listened, but in this context I’m only talking about the Giants’ broadcast team.
Pence is seriously making me dislike GoT song.
Heard some boo birds after that Pence strikeout. Gonna be a lot louder if they don’t play better
Thankful for Cain earlier in his career, but it looks like he’s got nothing left in the gas tank. Those who thought he still had something this season is probably in the same school of evaluating talent as those employed by the Giants.
With Cains handsome contract, it was probably a FO directive that he be in the starting rotation.
I would think you’d know why he was in the rotation.
Conroy feeling all swoll up
That was not a swing.
gorky’s?
Affirmative
looked like a swing to me
It was 50-50 to me. No one cares anymore though. A replay would have been nice
It’s funny how the Dodgers can lose their ace 3 seasons in a row and still finish in 1st.
Dodgers have a deeper team and talent in the minors to help offset any injuries with the big club.
At least we have 3 WS to make me feel better.
They can hit, pitching is only part of the game .
Will this be the 4th consecutive year that they’ve won the division?
Fifth, from 2013 on.
Sayonara. This HPU is a right sweet AHole. I’m tossing myself out and finishing that nice red I opened for that hunk of beef and shrooms I just cooked. Cast Iron Porterhouse. Part of the reason I don’t care about this nonsense.
I feel bad for those fans attending the game and who paid more money for the special event item. Marketing is a b—-!
Maybe they will give out “100 Club” hats on Fan Appreciation Day!
Even better: a banner hanging outside of AT&T commemorating the milestone.
Futility fence. For a mere $200 donation to the Community Fund you can buy a plank.
Conroy is just trolling Cain now
Does Span have reservations somewhere? 3 pitches?
SO, it only takes 1 pitch to get a hit, you worried about a Pitch count on Cole !
I guess you saved up some snark while you were lurking all weekend, PJ!
No, facts , Span was on base 5 times vs Cole , when the Giants beat him, so I trust him over fans, always wanting hitters to take pitches .
As the leadoff hitter, I expect Span to see a few pitches.
He was on base 5 times in last meeting vs Cole, he knows what he is doing . This taking pitches thing does not work. just gets you behind in the count, so Pitcher has advantage .
Well hopefully the Pirates will sit back on this early six run lead and put it in coast mode and the Giants can sneak up from behind and get this thing. That’s my inner Krukow talking. Just sayin.
Way to make him run it out, BC
Yeah I caught that. That was awesome. Kind of like a pitcher easily fielding a bunt and toying the runner up the line.
Nice play Noonie.
The 4 unearned runs don’t really matter if you can’t even score 1 run.
Agreed! They need 2 legit bats in the lineup next year to even pretend to contend.
you actually think 2 legit bats is enough to turn this around?
So who is going to pitch?
I’m so over it that I’m gonna take a hatchet to that stupid talking redwood plank. This season sucks
Beats the bleeped out truck commercial. A mute button is a good thing.
Be happy you saw three World Series wins. You don’t get to see the Giants play well every year. If they did, how fun would being a fan really be?
I’m getting too old to trust waiting out draft picks. Plus, after the first 52 years, I’m fine with winning every damn year.
Well, it’s never going to happen. Anger might make sense if this was just more of the same, but it isn’t. I think some of you became spoiled by all of that success.
It’s more blog artistic license. I’m not very angry…much more “resigned”
Good. I’m sure it’s easier that way. Hope for 2020.
Your false take, that Posey is having his best season since 2012, is looking bad .
It’s kind of subjective, but he still currently has his highest BA, OBP, SLG and OPS since his MVP year.
He tends to Fade , except in 2012 and 2014, in 2013, he had a higher average way more HRs and RBI at the break, then faded badly, in 2015 way more HRs and RBI and slightly lower average at break and went on a power slump in 2nd half .
man you have it bad for Posey don’t you?
I have it bad for Belt, but he really does suck.
Posey is the best player on the team by a mile.
I am a stat guy , I like Posey have his splits memorized, Great memory and a stat guy since I was 10, so what do you want to know ?
It certainly could happen again.
Didn’t he fade in 2014? I think no XBH in the postseason.
Not in the regular season, went on a tear , hit over .400 with 10 HRs last 7 weeks of the season, to get them in the playoffs, then wore down in World Series, had lots of RBI in other playoffs, but no Power yes .
The sellout streak ended again tonight, didn’t it?
Nightall.
I don’t blame you. What’s the point of another exercise in futility.
Cole’s wife looks like a playboy bunny.
Hey…that’s Crawford’s sister, sicko
Vice is nice but incest is best!
It’s all relative.
Ownage is ownage. Not sure what BCraw’s career numbers vs Cole is, but Crawford always seems to pick up at least one hit against him.
Au contraire…not until these last two games.
Were bad before tonight .
Good grief!! I just tuned in and we’re back in the hole again. This season is weirder than a Kafka novel. Is the message of Cain starting that no one in the farms is even remotely ready?
The owners paid $22 million to sit at this slot machine, and they’re yanking that lever until the bank is empty
Good metaphor!
His remarkably breathtaking contract warrants a directive from the FO that he pitch.
He was in the pen for a few hours until Cueto went on the DL.
Yes , injuries only reason he is starting, they took Zito out of rotation in 2013 in his last year, and Timmy in 2014, but 2014 was a little different, were still in playoff race .
Wonder if they should rotate all their starters through the 10 day DL to keep the mileage a little lower on those arms. I expect all of them have a sore something. Like Huddy said in 2015 when he went on the DL, “Pick one. “
Watch them waste Kyle Crick on mop up duty again.
It’s no longer weird, it’s been firmly established that this is who they are.
Atta babe Gorkys.
That’s a shame.
Suarez pitching is a step in the right direction to get ready for the 2018 season.
They’ll wear his arm out
Gosh I hope not. Possibly a rotation guy next year.
He should be with Cain hopefully gone
Suave Suarez!
Back to question #3….
6. Does Chris Conroy have Strike Zone Dyslexia?
I KNEW there had to be a name for that
I do like the violence in Nunez’s swing
…and he’s thinking “Red Sox, Red Sox, Red Sox…”
Red Sox are calling up their 20 yr old 3B prospect.
So Bochy gets thrown out for protesting a called strike — an automatic expulsion he is well aware of. What message does this send to the team? To me, it-seems like Bochy is saying “I am sick of watching you guys, I’m going to go lay down”. Is this an effective way to manage?
He was protecting Cain. That’s what the players will see
I agree, it’s just not a good look when a manager gets ejected that early in the ballgame.
Actually, I just rewatched the play, and I’d say Bochy did the right thing standing up for his player there. He didn’t go out there to get tossed, that’s for sure
WTF is Belt doing Bwahahahha. Not Top 10 play confirmed
Bruce, looking for corkscrew.
Brandon Rivera
Can’t happen. But it did. And it reeks of bad baseball.
Brownie’s comment that Cole’s wife looks like a Playboy Bunny gets removed?
It’s still there…
Not on mine.
I see it
Doesn’t anyone on this team play fundamental baseball? I guess they really want the first pick.
This odorous season is definitely a team effort.
Belt needs a change of scenery. I’m sure he will do well somewhere else.
Sorry, 70 million reasons he is staying put .
Come on Peter!! Work with me!! He needs to go!!
And you’ll be the first (tied with PJ) to cry about it when he hits 35 homers for another team.
He’ll have to get more aggressive to accomplish that. Always a threat for 100 walks though.
As there is no crying in baseball, I doubt he cries even if Belt for some reason is able to hit 25.
Why the hell did you just mention Suarez has gotten 11 straight batters he’s faced out? Why? We know this. WTF
It was to piss off Peter
In a fit of small sample size excitement, I want Suarez to get some starts the rest of the way
Me too. In Cain’s spot
Copy that.
Please don’t tell me that’s Kontos warming up in the pen.
Yup
Kruk loves Kontos
I can why the local sports channel would cover Bumgarner starts in San Jose. Pablo, not so much.
I just asked Siri on my new phone if the Giants would win the World Series. He very helpfully replied with the line score from October 29, 2014. And there you have it.
I asked Siri when we got our new 7.0 phones: “Siri, why do my Giants suck so badly?” I got a 30 second reply that included numbing statistics like “last in the league in HR”, etc. Hey…I asked, right?
Well, to be fair, I changed Siri to a male British voice. Maybe he only knows from cricket, right?
Kuiper I am tired of tight strike zones, hey Kuiper were you a hitter at onetime , what a joke !
New Giants’ top 30 on MLB.com. I look forward to Footy’s comments–I know he’s not a fan of this particular list.
http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=sf
Kyle Crick is #17 and he’s IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES DOING WELL.
Is this supposed to be in order?? Or maybe The We Found 30 Names Of Guys In The Minors We’ve Heard Of
Pretty much
That’s my approach to My Guy. Except I only had to recognize 8 names.
Looks like Wrenzies. Put Cj up there with Duggar and ahead of Garcia and it’s all good. Move Suarez up, shuffle some other names, badabing badaboom. Bryce Johnson!
Big hit by Belt here can change the outlook of the game
SMH, he is what I thought he is.
That he is.
That was Full Anooh
What horseshit.
Once again, ahead in the count, 2 strikes … 🙁
Well guess what, Bellinger just hit a 3-run bomb of his own to give Dodgers the lead over the Twins 6-4. Moments after Osich gave up a 3-run HR to Mercer.
When it rains, it really f******* rains!
I’ve had a craptastic day so I haven’t been watching. Just popped in, looks like business as usual. At least I can count on the Giants to be consistent. I heard something about the wave happening? And I thought the Pablo crap reeked of desperation. Peace out for at least tonight. Peachy hugs to almost everyone. Keyword: almost.
It wasn’t the wave. People are fighting off the seagull poop.
Back at you, Peachy. Here’s hoping today is a better day for you.
I miss almost all of you.
Posey and Bumgarner. Everyone else can be traded for fox pelts.
Unfortunately Giants are on the hook for Crawford until the end of the 2021 season.
Good to see that Osich and Okert look like the LH pen stalwarts the Giants need.
So who are the studs going to be in the draft next year?
There don’t appear to be any can’t miss, Bryce Harper types, but everyone that’s going to be drafted still has more baseball to play before the draft.
Maybe some of the players are content with the post game meal spread, and don’t consider it necessary to watch video of the next games opposing pitcher, or watch video of themselves from the days game, or get some post game weight room, or hit the batting cages for 20 minutes, or pitchers studying the next days lineup. Maybe there’s a soft rebellion going on that we fans don’t know about. Maybe they’re fearful of seagull poop confrontation.
Or maybe they are doing all of those things.
What a tough loss. And not the loss itself, but the bad baseball that took it there. Kontos looked sharp. Suarez looked legit. Crick competed. Gifted dollar guys can’t carry the team. Cain may have gotten squeezed, but his pitches weren’t crisp enough to overcome the keyhole treatment.