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Greek Giant
Tonight’s Game: Giants (26-42) Vs Rockies (43-26) at Todd Helton Park, 6:40 PM
Jeff Samardzija (2-8, 4.31) Vs Antonio Senzatela (8-2, 3.84)
The Giants need a win and a good performance from their starting pitcher. No word yet on the injuries to Buster and Eduardo Nunez. At this point the Giants will likely have to call up an infielder from Sacramento (Hwang?).
The team needs some stability in more ways than one. Smarge is pitching for the San Franciscans while the Colorodans counter with rookie sensation Antonio Senzatela.
Five Questions
- How is Buster?
- How is Nunez?
- Should the Giants pitchers forfeit the game and go to bed early to be fully rested for the remaining two games of the series?
- Is Austin Slater the real deal?
- How many hits and RBIs will the Rockies third baseman (he who shall go un-named) pound out tonight?
I’ll guess that Posey will miss tonight and that’s it. Down 9-3 after his homer, who knew the generally limp offense would stage such a rally so they played it safe.
Listening to Carl’s Leonard Cohen offering…
Stupendous, it must be the real Carl – verified !
Look at the Diskus profile, it seems it is.
What a treat! perhaps he can be solicited to write one of those guest posts.
He had a post a while ago on how Bay Area teams wiffed on Stanton. Given the season and mood that would be a cool topic, if he has any insight as to why.
The Rockies will load up with LHB tonight and try long ball on Samardzija.
Sadly this team is unwatchable. I’m choosing depressing news over the Giants game.
Lets look into #3 a bit more. You might be on to something. Some pre-emptive DL stints too.
Same logic …sit Bum for the test of the year. He’ll be that much better next year. And he deserves it honestly
Why would sitting the whole year make him better next year? I think he’d be much more comfortable coming back and showing himself and everyone else that he’s still the same Bumgarner, as opposed to sitting out nearly an entire season.
Because it takes longer to heal than sports physicians allow for, and Bumgarner is too aggressive and competitive to keep a govenor on his effort. My apology for making the obvious abundantly clear.
I can definitely see how, from your vantage point on your couch, you’d be in a much better position than the team’s medical staff or Bumgarner himself to determine when he returns to health. And you’d also have to be pretty naive to think that Bumgarner’s representatives aren’t also very involved in making sure he doesn’t return until he’s ready, especially given the future payday that’s involved.
I don’t have a couch. I’m sorry you don’t accept the obvious lack of restraint sports physicians exhibit with athletes return to play. You’d think just the concussion injuries of the last few years in baseball not to mention the NFL would have informed your opinion.
I would agree in some cases that players are rushed back if a team is in contention — there is no way the medical staff will rush Bumgarner back this year. Bumgarner might try to rush back but I am confident the medical staff will be conservative in their approach.
Let’s hope not. There is right now, no reason to hurry.
And again, you’re very naive if you don’t think that Bumgarner’s people are very much involved in the decision about when he should return. He’s probably obtained medical opinions in addition to what the people associated with the team have told him.
Don’t need no stinking governor!
Especially if they have an eye patch and keep zombie heads in aquariums.
Yikes! What state is that?
Georgia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Governor_(The_Walking_Dead)
Maybe a room freshner?
I’m with you on this
Are you thinking about his trade value over the winter? What is your time line?
Giants PreGame Notes
http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/5/4/2/236855542/06.16.17_at_COL_Game_Notes_fz9rerju.pdf
This Date in Giants History: June 16, 2010
Tim Lincecum struck out 10 Orioles batters in 6.0 innings while allowing just two runs on eight hits in a 6-3 Giants victory…Aubrey Huff and Juan Uribe both hit solo homers in the win.
ROX PreGame Notes
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/documents/9/6/6/236860966/6.16.17_vs._SF_i2e2gxbe.pdf
https://i.imgur.com/TT17dxa.png
Myhill’s gonna blow a gasket.
BOCHY HATES SLATER!!!!! And you’re STUPID if you don’t think so!!!
I know who is with Stupid
The guy is hitting in the 8th spot. Why move him up in the order to where guys only hit .220. That would jinx him.
He needs his valves ground anyway sometimes.
This implies the bench is Gorkys and Kelby (Buster and Eduardo not playing). Dang, I’m trying, but it is hard to be optimistic.
Going directly to GG’s final question, He Who Shall Not Be Named will probably get more hits than the Giants.
Another look at the now several year old Game of Thrones spoof Steve Kerr pulled off for his then roster. Hopefully he can pull one off with the new (hysterical) guys: JaVale – David West – McCaw – ZaZa – Old New Matt Barnes – Damian Jones and KD.
Warriors had SEVEN new players then the 2015 roster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kDouWttEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHXW4-k94iI
Props to Michael McAdoo for including some of his past championship brothers when he had the mic in his hand giving a shout out to Barbosa – B. Rush – Senator Barnes – Boges – Festus – Justin Holiday – David Lee – Kuz – and Mo Buckets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Jr4Qf_6oE
1. Will Bochy smart enough to realize it’s time to go?
2. If he isn’t, will the decision makers be smart enough to realize it?
3. If they are, will they be willing to do what it takes, gently or otherwise, to make the needed change?
LOL.
#4, 5, & 6 : Where does the buck stop? How many heads need to roll? Is Larry Baer safe?
Such a drama Fanatic….. Answer NO. This year is an anomaly. We all knew they supposedly had the pitching but NO left fielder.
Doubtful he goes out after a year like this.
PLAYERS have not done their jobs.
Bums injury – Crawford – Pence et al – too much for them to overcome.
I guess the second half of last season was also an anomaly?
True, now you are finally “getting it”.
Players from the roster “Play”
If they fail to do their jobs – it is their fault not the Managers fault.
8th hitter euphemism is 2nd cleanup. Go get em, Austin, make him proud in Tel Aviv!
Hey GG, our guy Michael Taylor has been doing a good job since Eaton went down. Too bad we couldn’t get that guy, somehow.
Should be Kelby at 3B tonight, not Aaron “below the Mendiza line” Hill. Dumb decision.
Just looked at Baggs newsy pre-game post. Gillaspie is ready to be activated (Baggs says something I don’t understand about not being able to do that while Strickland’s suspension is under appeal). Surely they could cut Hill for Gillaspie, so there’s two good ways to keep Hill off the diamond available.
Just a guess, but Tomlinson seems to have forgotten how to take a pitch. His walk rate is down to 4% while his Krate is around 20% and his wOBA is down to .271. Usually his plate metric are a lot better.
Aaron has mostly forgotten how to hit a pitch. So, it’s 6 of one, and a .175 average of the other
Exactly. Bochy speak would be “gotta get Hilly going…”
Hill has been consistent over the last two season and 200 ABs. Last year his OPS was around .580 over 135 ABs and it is right around that level again in 63 ABs. So he has been consistently bad now for 200 ABs.
There is no reason for him to be on the team. It doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things as they stink either way, but it would be better for Tomlinson to get the ABs b/c he could/should be utility player for next season.
By that logic you could maybe shitcan half the starting lineup. By performance, 2 of the starting 8 should be on a diamond.
Sure, but Tomlinson has had one 3/2 count, and two 3/1 counts all year. My point isn’t to lionize either one, just comment on a rational. Hill is having useful at bats, Tomlinson isn’t. Neither is hitting worth a darn right now.
Neither is a world beater but Tomlinson is 5 for 15 for the month and went 2 for 4 in his only start a few games ago. Tomlinson also plays better defense and can run. Hill has some power but he never hits the ball.
It’s a coin flip still, IMO.
I would rather play the guy that has a chance to be on the team next year.
You got a point.
Absolutely.
Tomlinson’s last start was Sunday. He went 2-4 with two runs scored, from the lead off spot. Useful, that.
That’s just irrelevant tonight.
Well, since you said in your previous comment that “Neither is hitting worth a darn right now,” and Tomlinson was 2-4 with a walk the last time he started, it seems quite relevant. As does KT’s .293 current batting average and his career average of .298.
The fact is that there have been starts for utility guys the past week with Panik missing four games and Nunez out now. Hill got every single one of those starts. The only start KT got was replacing Crawford when Craw sat vs. a lefty.
Bochy has anointed Hill, 7 years older than KT, an inferior defender and a no longer competent major league hitter, as the #1 utility guy off the bench. He deserves criticism for that. It’s not the best choice for the present and especially not for the future.
KT just doesn’t get enough consistent ABs to get in a groove this season at the MLB level.
I don’t think he really is a starter for a top shelf team but has a future as an excellent bench player because of ability to get on base, speed, and fielding. Plus intangibles.
Do any of TWG musicians and guitarist or music lovers know of Samantha Fish? She just played in Colorado and will play 10 straight dates in California starting August 5. She plays a variety of guitars. There is a good selection of internet clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIpU24vHhFM
Thanks a ton! I am familiar, but this was a nice treat.
I think she is really talented and would post more but OT.
My five answers to your questions GG.
1) As Bochy says, “he’ll be fine.”
2) See #1
3) Sure, and call up Suarez to start one game.
4) Real Deal? Don’t take him out of the lineup and we’ll find out.
5) 3 hits, 3 RBI
Side note: just got home after spending 1 hour, 40 minutes in traffic driving home in 100 degree heat. Our boys better bring a W tonight.
I’m hibernating for a week here in the Valley, praying my AC holds up! A few wins from the Giants wouldn’t hurt while I’m insular!
We just got ours fixed last month. Just in time too. 105+ plus for the next week.
My apartment maintenance fixed mine last summer, when if they had been on a regular maintenance schedule it wouldn’t have been dirty and needing Freon. So far, so good, so cold this summer! 🙂
Stay cool!
I’m late to this news, but it took 68 games for this team to hit its first 3 run homer????
Welcome to 2017! In the immortal words of Bob Seger….Turn The Page
They did have a grand slam (Belt) in the first week, so it’s semi-Fake News.
Answer to questions
1: Worried and reassessing his stand on catching
2: Injury prone ad headed into a slump since he is now missing games and will lose his timing
3: No, they need to pitch and give up a dozen tonight
4: No
5: 3
We have a game delay, who the hell knows why!
They’re replaying Bruce’s lineup. New York got a call from Israel about Slater hitting 8th so it’s under review
1 pitch, 1 out
Joe just homered for us, though.
Joey Baseball!!
love that, but leadoff guy has to take a pitch or 2, no?
Yes.
Delay anxiety
Span does sometime go 7 or 8 pitches on the first AB, so i prefer him to Nunez in that respect. But I can’t complain too much about anyone first pitch swinging when the ball is well inside the strike zone.
But when it’s yet another rollover ground ball…look for something you can take oppo.
JP!!!!!!
Atta boy Joe!
Congratulations Denard Span, on your 1,000th ground ball to the right side. Change your uni # to 4-3.
Joe Joe takes care of three of my game checks with one swing! 🙂 Now the hardest one: the win!
Whoa Bochy, ease up there
1. Worrisome. Any news on medical evaluation?
2. Impaired even if comes back with some rest because his game is speed and his hamstring is prone to tweaks.
3, Not feasible. Samardzija could come up with a big game.
4. Not a .400 hitter but probably a .270 to .280 hitter with 15 HR power that is not as feast or famine as Williamson or Parker.
5. 2 hits 2 RBIs 2 Ks.
I’m doing my Steve Martin Jerk dance screaming “We have a lead!!!!!”
Not sure if it lasts, so I’m taking full advantage
Sure, go for it while you can.
I absolutely believe Joltin Joe Jr is very comfortable batting in the two hole. It’s a very organic spot for him in the lineup. It’s a how would you say it, it’s a no brainer.
Who is back up catcher today?
gorky
You are kidding me?
Thanks.
So Gorkys is the Giants Swiss Army knife of players.
At least he is last in line to PH.
The bench is formally Posey, Nunez, Tomlinson, and Hernandez. So he’s probably also the 2nd choice for PH.
Samardzija best pitch a clean game.
I’d guess Panik or Tomlinson. Wonder if they know it.
Revisionist history: oh, how I wish we had signed Desmond this off season….
What did he get from the Rockies? He was coming off a sub-par year with Washington.
5 years $70M
5 years/$70MM. So less than Pence got four years ago. Plus, he can play IF/OF.
Between his bad year with Washington was a nice year with Texas, when he actually played a lot of outfield.
Fair amount for .742 career OPS that is not a SS anymore. Desmond has only had one season with an OPS over .800 (not counting his 82 ABs in his first season). Pence has been over .800 OPS 3 of the last 4 seasons and 6 times in his career. Pence has been injury prone the last two years so maybe that only should count as one season over .800 OPS, so 2 out the last 3 years.
My guess is that the Desmond K will not look good either a few seasons from now.
A combo of the salaries of Hill, Rollins, Ruggiano and Morse?
Hey Moore, did you see that
Phone book still intact after one inning.
Apropos of nothing other than I’m happy, after what seems like forever, Bob Seger is finally available on my Napster! “Just take those old records off the shelf …” :
Looking at my vinyl collection recently. Gotta get both of my turntables in working order. Too much good music not being played! CDs getting a pretty good workout, though.
There is an amazing amount of new music out there too.
That’s some great work by Smardge.
They could use some length tonight after Moore fiasco and with Cain Blach to follow.
If only Slater wasnt stupidly hitting 8th he would have homered
You had that all tee’d up didn’t you.
See– hitting in the 1 or 2 spot leads to home runs. Stupid Bochy
30 minutes till first pitch, and the River Cats’ starter is “TBD.” I’m curious not only because of Gregorio but also because I’m wondering when Andrew Suarez will make his AAA debut. We have tix for tomorrow night’s game, so I have some selfish stake in this!
I hope you see Suarez. Looking forward to a scouting report.
We saw Mejia’s AAA debut last year and Blackburn’s AAA debut in 2015. Both times it went great.
Come to think of it, did I just jinx Suarez into getting traded?
Nooooo…
Fortunately days of trading prospects for mlb talent are over for a while. Or unfortunately.
I’ve just now checked the River Cats website and it says P. Gomez (1-3, 5.12). Calixte, Gillaspie, Jones, Ruggiano and Shaw are the 1st 5 batters. Have fun, give us a scouting report.
Going tomorrow; will report back!
Atta babe Span!
OK, Denard. I take back some of the stink I’ve thrown at you this week. Some, not all.
Hardcase. 😉
It’s a hard spot, CC. We’re paying high for a player of his stature and stats, and he’s declining right in our hands. Furthermore, we’ll *never* find system OFs if we keep bringing in veterans to steal their ABs.
Span seems a much better player this year than last, at least to me. I suspect he’ll be a corner OF next year, or maybe even 4th in the depth chart.
I mentioned starting back in preseason that I would rather see Span as backup CF but mostly play corner and that 4 OFs could get regular playing time (>400 ABs) as long as the aging Span and Pence were on the team. Span would be in a Kuenn-like role,
Irrelevant now. But maybe next season?
Indeed, but they have to find some players to push Span/Pence from 1/2 down to 3/4 first.
The CF seems elusive. Hard to imagine who can be acquired for that role.
A star CF would in a sense solve two OF positions but who and where from?
Have to pray Cueto trade is the solution..
Hope so. He is value there, although $10MM is a high price. Still, I see decline. He’s not as quick or agile and his body is breaking down. He’s a longtime veteran. Something left in the tank? Hope so.
Still a bad signing overall
Without a doubt. We got played by Boras.
He was just supposed to be better than Pagan, the last guy you guys BBQ’ed alive.
He’s not better than Pagan.
I know. Our, all we got was the sauce for our grief.
You know it’s not personal or player hatred, not for me. It’s the lack of production. You look at other teams OF and they have young, ascending players. We have…not that. The major shortcomings of our OF have been significant in this collapse.
Yeah, but if ever there was a case of be careful what you wish for, Pagan decamping turned out to be one.
Is that Parker in the dugout?
Baggs’ pregame post says he is with the team, and just about ready to send out to a rehab assignment.
Another bad route
Pence looked like he got zooed on that one.
Is that Pagan in right?
Pence misjudging another ball.
Good grief. Pence has been dreadful in the outfield this year.
Auuuughhh ( doing a follow up Charlie Brown reference)
Our pitchers having their clothes blistered off by Rockies’ hitters’ line drives reminds of Good Ol’ CB too!
Hunter Pence has seemingly lost all defensive abilities this season
So I finally saw the answer as to why there were never any Pence wedding photos on social media last winter. There were photos from the Panik wedding and the Law wedding. It seemed so odd to me that a couple who have such a social media brand would go “dark” as to wedding photos.
I figured they must have sold the rights to their wedding photo spread somewhere and sworn all the guests to cooperation. Indeed–their wedding is a cover story for the July issue of some wedding magazine. Lexi did a thing on her Youtube channel about the magazine arriving at their house.
Wish he was as defensive with baseballs
Yep. It feels wrong to even suspect that his focus is elsewhere, but…
Rapidly declining body, aging, perhaps not as focused as we’d like–and we’re on the hook for another $18MM next year. Hunter Pence has been a great Giant. Maybe not so much anymore.
She seems pretty annoying.
Samardzija has an anti-defense magnet on the mound this season
Hey, Spanik are the manik!
Much excitement here, wife picked up two turkey chicks 🐥 🐥
Well, I gotta ask, is that Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner covered, or are they pets?
Sounds about right. Friends until the feast.
A happy turkey is a fat turkey.
TWG must be a carniverous gang, all seem to have thought alike here.
It’s like Bubba Gump “Roast Turkey…deep fried turkey…turkey soup…turkey tacos…turkey kebabs….turkey sandwiches….”
I blame it on the turkeys, for being soooo delicious.
Actually, turkey meat doesn’t have much flavor. It’s the gravy with browned bits ( and some vermouth), the cranberry sauce, and the mayo on those sandwiches.
There’s some vegan flavor over here in this corner, although mostly it’s Mrs. tf. I’m vegan-ish. Gotta get my carnivore on every once in awhile.
Sounds like we need to transfer custody of these chicks to you somehow.
Name one Miles and the other Standish for November
I love roast turkey!
You are a tad acerbic.
I know you are, but what am I? 🙂
Brutal.
Do not get attached to them if they’re destined for the oven.
Thankfully, Belt has big flippers
Rock starter has allowed 12 hrs, 9 to Lefties. I like Belt getting one here.
He could use a base knock
A broken bat flare over 3b
Contact
Maybe Crawford?
With a man aboard!
What a group….Ryan is a proud and excited Papa about his turkey chicks, and every damn one of us had the initial thoughts of cooking their asses for Thanksgiving dinner.
Together We’re Carnivores
Spatchcockers anonymous.
Shit.
Together We’re Out
Good call.
It was closer than it looked.
Hill bails out Black!
SAMARDZIJA!!
#pitcherswhorake
Yes! A Marj bomb!!!
Atta babe Smarge.
Loved the mini-flip, too….
The Shark is BITING! 🙂
That shark in McCovey Cove the other night was an omen.
Doing his MadBum imitation
Last 8 innings Giants hit 6 HRs to score 10 runs, pretty useful Mr Baer .
“Ever since Buster exited last night’s game with injury”
He hit the 1st of the 6 HRs
I know, but the team definitely responded after he left
Offensively
W T F ?
Jeff Samardzija should go postal on his defense
Effin defense has some serious leaks.
Crawford had that lined up
Spantasm!
No one changes momentum like Grady
Panik. GG first baseman.
Bruce should make Span write on the chalkboard 100 times:
I will not call off Crawford
I will not call off Crawford….
Hill was way too in front of the third base bag. Good relay or not, poor position to receive the throw.
This game will not end 4-3
unless Span makes the last out…
Bada BOOM
He gave us one run and took one away
We gave him $32 million, he gave us anxiety
4-3 ground outs
I got it
WAY TO GO, MIKE
This game will not end 6-4 either
14-4 .
How about 6-5?
I’m guessing 11-8 Giants
If we could just eliminate the Rockies 1-2-3 hitters, this series would be a lot more fun
They can hit, for sure.
I hate baseball
I hate Coors Field. I went to one game there and it was like yesterdays. there is no resemblance to baseball
Blaming the field ! Ha, Ha, Ha, !
Well, it is a joke Stadium…he said nothing about blame
It’s not the field, it’s the altitude and wind. They have the largest OF square footage by far, to combst thst, so lots of balls fall in or go over heads.
I like seeing the guys score a lead off double.
This is just plain heartbreaking.
Why ? The Giants are going no where this year, so feels like a spring training game .
I don’t like seeing the Giants get slapped around, especially since I can’t do a dang thing about it.
The worse they play, more likely for changes .
Must be nice to have a leadoff hitter like Blackmon and a no 3 hitter like Arenado
I wondered with a 3.8+ ERA how that kid pitching was 8-2. Now I get it.
And a guy like LeMaiheau, and Desmond…and Reynolds off the bench, and….
Our guys can hit like LeMaheiu in Coors too but I’ll give you Desmond and Reynolds
LeMaiheau is a STUDDDDD. Keep watching that young man
GG – not sure how Panik stole it from him last year
Won a gold glove, then led the league in batting average. He’ll probably move to 1B as he ages.
LeMaheiu is a Giant killer look it up, even in his early years when he was just ok, he hit well vs the Giants .
Belt 0 for 15 since his scheduled day off .
I got my new Sports Illustrated in the mail today. Gotta say one more time: so happy for my guy Kevin Durant.
A few final words on this years Warriors.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-warriors-didnt-need-kevin-durant-to-be-this-good/
Would revisionists take Desmond and his contract instead of Melancon and his? Similar outlays.
There was the assumption a closer would be needed.
Needed an OF super utility too
Had one, he’s leading off for the Snakes.
Pretty pedestrian numbers for Coors.
And he’s fairly Gorkish defensively.
Nice adjective.
I’d take him in a heartbeat…
Me too. He’s a solid veteran who is willing and able to play all over the diamond. He’d play well in AT&T.
We needed both of them!
It’s like asking the Captain of the Titanic, post-iceberg, which style of deck chair he prefers.
I was pushing for Desmond over everyone from about 2 days after the World Series ended. But he isn’t looking very good.
Bochy loves to keep the Shark in even when he gets shelled, his ERA will never get under 4 when his main job is to eat up innings regardless of results .
If he gets up to bat this inning would you want to take him out for a pinch hitter?
He gave up some pop ups ( Coors) and Span gakked an out. Who in the pen do you want?
This is not his only start where this has happened, the last 2 years, Giants signed him as an inning eater, they said this when they signed him for big bucks coming off a year with nearly a 5.00 ERA, and they want to get those innings no matter what .
He’s probably our best starter this season, regardless of his W/L , and his ERA is at least 1 run higher than it should be because of atrocious fielding behind him all season
He gives up the big HR to kill you , more often then not, last start vs Twins, this start, Pitches great and then boom .
At least you’re a purely “results oriented” guy. I’ll give you that
With you on this one.
Spence
The bullpen was kind of devastated from the day before.
Com’on Slater!
Is Posey available/able to PH?
Yes
Whoa, so he healed overnight huh
They said he was way better today and wants to play the whole game tomorrow
Oh whewwww
Who wouldnt want to hit at Coors’ Pinball Arcade?
Matthew’s gal!
I just stabbed both ears with ice picks to stop the pain
I expect shark to give up 2 more hr this game.
Tim Cook must not like baseball…I typed “ERA” and it autocorrected to “opERA” …
I don’t expect Posey to get an AB unless it wont matter if he runs. He will be used threatenly again.
You go Boch!
He even gets tossed in slo-mo
There’s the ‘ol Bochy we know.
Bochy doesn’t even seem mad that he got tossed
Perhaps he has a nice Pinot in the manager’s office.
Perhaps. Looked like there were a lot of gnats in the dugout
I’d bet he went out there to get tossed.
I think so too. He was just complaining to let the ump hear him complain. Maybe he thinks it’ll spark the team?
Duh
I was being diplomatic. He OBVIOUSLY went out there to get tossed work for you?
Duh
(Sorry…had to, early!)
Nope. Just a calm and casual f*** you and a your strike zone is s**** and a you hot dog eatin *********.. but he made his point. Gotta give him his due
He’s ok with not having to watch the rest of the game.
really wonderful article from our old friend Carl Seward at the Merc comparing the Warriors to the 1980s Niners apologies if someone already linked http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/15/like-weve-been-here-before-the-warriors-amazing-parallels-to-1980s-49ers/#comments
Sederstrom. I know the name but don’t know his reputation. Usually that’s a good thing when ump stays out of game story.
Cederstrom, I think…
Law in may put the game out of reach
Dinger just took cover
Too bad I didnt keep my GG issued blindfold
CarGo forgot what team was playing defense
Hunter Pence has turned into a disaster
A shell of his former self
A disaster wrapped in a debacle in a nightmare, in a calamity, in a catastrophe, in a fiasco
So, our Giants just run both Span and Pence out there the rest of the year–and next year–because they’re highly paid? Please tell me there is someone who will say no to that nonsense.
Gotta get um goin’
The CTC outfield! (Cash Those Checks)
At least he is hitting. Whoops
I know this is crazy, but when I see Hunter struggle now, I think of Lou Gehrig, losing all of his athletic ability suddenly through no fault of his own! 🙁
Eek…hope you’re wrong, huh?
I sure do! Lou just thought he was getting old at first! 🙁
so I was correct earlier, Pagan is in right.
I wish he was
I don’t.
I never would have guessed
Hunter Pence and the no good very bad game
Surprise, another choking reliever!
Pence is going to keep having balls hit his way until he can make a play there
They are simply…unwatchable.
Good ol’ Krukow….
Ridiculous.
How does one live with themselves when they say things that are so obviously utter bullshit?
Shrooms.
Dollars.
Lexi
You are one bad mofo tonight. I like this Matty. When we formin’ that Floyd tribute band with Deero and Footy-rye-o with the entire “Animals” album as our first gig?
As you play the guitar what is you r opinion of Samantha Fish?
Heard of her, but unfamiliar with her stuff. Listening to Chills and Fever right now. Not bad. Not setting my world on fire, but I’d probably have to dig deeper to have a more qualified opinion.
I like the older music with the 3 piece band better than Chills and Fever.
Try these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc5S1BxSD2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx7FDGpZQsQ#t=445.0560208
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWUQkEdtYw
About her guitars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8JZNfPW4i8
Thanks for the heads up! Very kind of you. 3-piece bands have always been my favorite. Total accountability and payoff.
Look for an extended clip of Black Moon Howling. Reminds me of Hendrix. There are lots of her clips on youtube.
Pigs gigs on the wing!!!!!
I’ll bring the dogs sound, along with Johnny and Mr. Carlson! 🙂
What did he say?
Pence’s bevy of errors and misplays are because of the altitude, basically
That’s not good.
I really like that Tapia kid a lot. And I never say anything good about another teams players. Bud Black said about him that the kid loves to play baseball.
The Phillies lost today and the Padres are tied with the Brewers in the 9th. This race is getting exciting.
We got this!
I love it when you two get along.
Way to Peter the shit out of that
You just Frank Gorshinned me.
Courtesy strikeout
As predicted– though to be fair Law had some help
Thanks to the Giants, I’m getting a lot of reading done. Almost finished with my third book this week alone.
I’m a little over a third of the way through ” How To Fuck Up A Baseball Season” myself.
I’ll be going back in time to Seger on Napster and The Summer Of Love channel on I Heart Radio very soon!
Kuip said Span was one for three– I think he meant on catching catchable flyballs
Joltin Joe Jr. Atta babe!
Panik quietly restoring his batting average to respectable territory
SMH Belt… Efrain is right
Not even Coors field gets him going.
I think I just saw an ad for the Dyson Infinity model
Short of pkaying a game on the sometime Planet Pluto, Coors Field has to the the worst place in the solar system to pkay a “baseball” game
Wrigley ain’t far behind!
I concur: 1. Pluto 2. Coors 3. Wrigley
“Here come the Giants”
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58d2d006cd16b0a94f9b577d1a6a496fd4bfc04fee89ea758107ac68ce52f427.jpg
At least we have Cain pitching for us at Coors Field tomorrow. Uh Oh.
Dyson and Coors!
Cue up the Kontos ad!!!!!
They’ve widened the scoreboard
How about some Dyson love. Too bad he is not a shortstop. He could be Dyson the Human Vacaum Cleaner
Eureka!
Served in the Hoover Administration
My birthplace!
The beer that sucks!
HE CAUGHT IT!!!!!!!
Did you ever imagine you’d have to hold your breath on a fly ball to Pence?
Well, since he calf ropes every fly ball his direction…..yeah. Never thought it would be this bad.
Dyson with the shut down inning. F****** awesome.
Dyson… could be.
…that’s what 2017 has come to.
Dyson… could is.
Gotta figure out who to keep and who to let go in this bullpen
Dyson’s scoreless inning facing the Rockies’ top of the batting order is one positive.
Atta babe Gorkys.
MyGuy Gorkys! Blog trolling like a beast!!!
Gorkys Power!
Slayer!!!
Atta babe Slater.
Oh, look who it is 🙂
Send Slater?
Blach pinch running for Posey. Not much improvement there lol
Should make Strickland run
Having to watch the end of the confrontation where Strickland is wrestling Mac, Pence and Kontos as they try and get him off the field still ticks me off. What a tool.
That’s why I think the more Dyson shows, the more likely Strickland is GONE!
Strickland has been the best reliever this year (including Melancon). That would be really stupid.
I just think the organization is tired of his act and would like to see him go away!
Your “best reliever” came into a game in the bottom of the ninth–after his team came back from a 9-1 deficit to tie the game–and gave up the winning run four ABs later.
Oh yeah, as soon as that suspension kicks in, we play with a 24-man roster for those games. The way Bochy covets his deep bullpen that means three bench players.
Not so really stupid, IMHO.
Cruel to walk Posey and make him run the bases
Blachbutt as a PR?
Ty Blach, utility starting pitcher.
Great. Now we lose Blach as a PH. Just great.
See what happens when Bochy is not there
Com’on Joe!!!!
Let’s go Joe
We Never Quit*
(* – or win)
Oh that’s a shame.
Give up 2, score 1. Get 9, give up 10.
Well, at least I have Gorkys….
.202 with a BULLET
Gorkys and Belt, shall the twain meet?
Soon real Soon
the gorkster is off the interstate!!
Why can’t we ever win one of those slop fest butt assed ugly games?
Because Law pitched before Dyson!
Dyson pitched with some fight.
Silver lining?
Have a good night all!
Ditto.
Holland’s come back as a pitcher is sort of a miracle.
Good fight from this bunch. They are always outgunned at the corral, but at least they don’t run and hide.
The Rockies, Dodgers and D’Backs are all playing better than .600 baseball right now. Since MLB went to 6 divisions, that’s never been done. It only happened once in the 4 division era, in 1977, when the Yankees, Orioles and Red Sox all won at least 97 games.
Which horse you got in that race? 🐴
I wonder if the organization is going to spin this season using this stat to explain that the team’s record isn’t really that bad, given the amazing NL West!
As Kruk would explain it, “they just ran into a hot division.”
Let’s hope not.
There actually is a certain amount of truth to it. But only a certain amount.
Problem is they’re losing to Division and outside-of-Division teams alike.
Yes but at least they have an excuse for losing to Western Division teams.
Oh, I know…but what will be the talking points?
They all won’t finish over .600, but they’re all playing good baseball through the first half. I think the D’Backs fade but the other two are legit postseason threats.
Not so fast ! I don’t know, that seems to be the consensus, but the DBacks definitely have something going on. They’ve been relentlessly winning even without Pollock this year – so he’ll be a shot in the arm when he comes back. Their new manager, Lovello, seems to have instilled a new attitude. Maybe do it for Goldie is the cry.
Santiago strikes out the side.
There has to be a silver lining this year?
A strong realization that we need to improve our farm and stop replying on old vets.
In other words fire bochy?
The silver lining would be those in charge realizing the depth of the problems and what they need to do to turn things around.
Well, this is a truly sobering reality:
From John Shea’s report on the game:
“The 2017 Giants are on pace to lose 101 games.”
Giants becoming historically bad, lose to Rockies 10-8
By John Shea Updated 10:42 pm, Friday, June 16, 2017
http://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/Giants-becoming-historically-bad-lose-to-Rockies-11226977.php
Also from this game report:
“Make that four straight losses, 13 in 17 games and a season-high 17 games below .500. They’re 17½ games out of first place. The last time they were so far back before an All-Star break? Yes, 1985.”
I’m the most positive Giants fan around but even I’m getting discouraged by this season. The question is, what will stop this suckitude this season? Selling off the valuable parts and calling up the kids to see what they have? Bochy retiring or getting fired, which probably won’t happen, that’s simply not how the Giants operate. It’s just disheartening to read that 101 loss pace now.
If bochy departing as the manager isn’t how the giants operate, this team is doomed. For a looooong time.
With a pathetically weak MiLB system it’s going to take a decade to refurbish their team. Anybody but Posey and Bum should be considered trade bait esp. for high ranking prospects. Might as well blow the team up before they have a bunch of below .400 seasons.
putting top 3 pick on lockdown – what are Giants highest draft picks ever?
Giants score 17 runs on 28 hits in 2 games and Belt goes 0-8. #TradeBelt:)
Post of the week 🙌🏼
Yeah, it’s always smart to base decisions on 2 games.
Belt’s hitting in the .220s over eighty games and his middle-of-the-zone blindspot has been discovered. I’ve always felt he was a good trade piece but maybe not.
Luckily for Belt, Panik made the last out and saved him from 0-5 last night. He should take a seat for a couple of days but with Posey hobbled who plays first? The team is in disarray.
It’s pretty bad when disarray STARTS with a team playing .377 ball. With Buster out they lose their ONE big bat.
This is from an Ann Killion piece about the departure of Jerry West from the Warriors:
West is not the only significant player to leave the Warriors. Travis Schlenk left to become general manager in Atlanta, which means two significant, non-fawning voices are out of the organization. Myers needs to make sure he finds a contrarian somewhere in the ranks to offer different opinions so that the organization doesn’t lapse into groupthink. That can be the kiss of death.
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This, in a nutshell, may be what’s gone wrong with the Giants. Too much stability. Too much groupthink. Too much unwillingness to challenge people who’ve had success in the past.
I think it’s a good analogy. West has been there -done that, he has the experience and respect to be able to advise Kerr or Myers or Curry or anyone in the organization. Who do the Giants have who could do the same with Bochy? The GM (s) have never managed, the president is mainly a marketing and fluff guy. And the player leaders are mainly of the quiet go about your business kind of guys and just go with the flow. And to think that this might just be the beginning of the tailspin.
I think the groupthink is all in the FO. Rent-a-stud won them a few titles so they’re still going out and getting guys like Dyson and Morris. This is the same thinking that got them Moore and Samardzija. It hasn’t worked so they’re in a historically bad organizational status.
Nonsense. Dyson and Morris were reclamation projects. We’ll see if that turns out to be meaningful. No one else wanted them.
Samardzjia is an established MLB starter, a consistent middle of the rotation starter. Moore should be the same, but his baffling inconsistency erodes that goal. However, both were highly sought when acquired by us.
Why would guys with a long term 4+ ERA be “highly sought”? In the highly sought category only Johnny Cueto really fits that description. No one else. Dyson and Morris is just more rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
In honesty, the league got excited about Samardzija…and rightly so. Jeff WAS highly sought
Because they take the mound every fifth day, and in more than half of those starts they give their teams a legitimate chance to win. Both Samardzjia and Moore were highly sought pitchers–Shark as a free agent, Moore at last year’s trading deadline. Those are the facts, and in today’s game that defines “middle of the rotation” starters.
Moore was coming off of injury. He was a high risk trade.
Too much backslapping and winking at each other – you’re the man, no, you’re the man!
Although the Phillies only won the one title in 2008, they immediately headed down to their current woeful status. I mean it’s pretty bad when Freddy Galvis is a mainstay in your lineup. We seem to be in a similar position with Hill and Gorkys with more to come if guys like Buster get injured. Nine years of futility ahead?
9 years?!? Hopefully just a few, with an outside shot of a .500 team next year (if lots of things go right like Brandon Belt having that breakout year and Posey and Panik having big years and the pitchers going lights out).
The thing killin the Phils is that their prospects and trade acquisitions haven’t really hit big, or had sustained success. They have a good farm system, but probably not as good as it should be. Franco should be killing it. Crawford and Williams should be up challenging for ROY…
https://www.minorleagueball.com/2016/12/27/14090122/philadelphia-phillies-top-20-prospects-for-2017
J.P. Crawford’s yet another punchless .250 hitter with 7 HR. If that’s as good as the Phils have they’re in for an extended dry spell.
they were hoping he’d be something like Lindor.
A few years? That seems to be optimistic to a greater degree than the raw data indicates. If the Phillies have a “good farm system” and they’re where they are, what does that say about our prospects many years ahead?
Tell me. Be honest…towards the back end of that great run our Giants were having, didn’t we all know in the back of our heads that these other teams in the west were gathering really nice talent? I know when I would watch Arenado, Blackmon and LaMeiheau, I would think to myself ” boy, if this team gets it together, they have some serious Stars”…or watch LA add another young AreYouKiddingMe? Stud like Seager?
I think Lefty is right in the group think area…the leaders of this org proved to themselves that they were the smartest by that 5 year run…while the competition was quietly building out really good teams.
The question becomes who should go? Who can be brought in? Some folks think Bochy is the top of the list ( not me). Some think Evans (me), some think Sabean . Some think all of them.
Pedigree means something. Bochy can be a good manager, but do you know who I think is missing?
Flannery.
Tim could yell at Bochy and tell him he’s being an idiot. Bochy could yell back and pull his boss card. But I think Tim made Bruce think. And I believe Tim communicated more honestly and more stern than current coaches. Perhaps he also was afforded some more consistent talent, but our backup OF’s and IF’s were still Velez, Burris, Adrianza, etc.
Bruce needs someone to challenge him. So does Evans/Sabean. The team was too content through the good years and now they are in a big hole.
Through the good years rent-a-stud worked like a charm. Now those “studs” are guys like Moore, Samardzija, Dyson, and Morris. We were very lucky in 2012 and 2014 that Scoots and Pence went on tears. Now we’re just buying mediocrity (or worse) in the vain hope that we’re only a couple of guys from a title.
Don’t I remember it well, brocuz. And you giving grief 🙂
Next it will be time to watch out for the Padres! They are well ahead of the Giants on the amassing talent curve.
How about those Rivercats coming from behind like they did last night and sealing the victory. Maybe the old dogs could learn a few tricks from these cats.
Orlando Calixte wants back! He was 4 for 5 with a double and 2 triples! .301 avg.
Chris Shaw tripled but has a .253 avg, he’s not ready.
Kyle Crick fanned 4 in 2 frames, allowing 2 hits and a walk, he’s ready, Freddy.
Steve Okert had a clean frame. He’s always ready.
The RJ Reynolds cigarette of the game is split between Slade Heathcott and CJ Hinojosa!
Heathcott’s bat escorted his 11th dinger from the premises. He was 3 for 4 with a BB and K and is batting .286. Nothing to lose by moving him to AAA now and have him ready to play some CF next year. Heck even this September! Oh yeah, Hinojosa was 4 for 5, bringing his avg up to .235. Needs to keep plugging away, but he could be a back up infielder at the big level in a couple of years.
Remember Daniel Carbonell, the Giants big Cuban prize? He was 3 for 4 for San Jose. Even stole his 3rd bag. Jake McCasland with a solid 7 innings pitched in a loss.
This has been the minor league report from your favorite farm system!
PCL sucks. 😉
Gearrin, Kontos, Dyson, Morris. Pick one, Bobby, move him for best possible return (or just DFA), and promote Crick. Okert had one bad stretch amongst some decent work. He gets banished to AAA and we have but one lefty reliever. Drop a second washed up righty reliever and promote Okert.
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