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Greek Giant
I was out on the town with a friend last night and every time I kept checking the score on my phone I felt like was watching a football game. One inning 3 runs, another inning 5 runs… Clearly there seems to be something to that whole Coors field and high scoring games theory.
The Giants are hurting.
I’m hurting.
You’re hurting.
We all need a good cry.
The Box Score is too damn long for me to fit on this post in one image. That should tell you everything you need to know about that game last night.
Comment Gold
The Box
Breckeroni wants to borrow that book Matthew is reading. The explanation for all this must be spelled out in its appendix.
Minor League Report
How about those Rivercats coming from behind like they did last night and sealing the victory. Maybe the old dogs could learn a few tricks from these cats.
Orlando Calixte wants back! He was 4 for 5 with a double and 2 triples! .301 avg.
Chris Shaw tripled but has a .253 avg, he’s not ready.
Kyle Crick fanned 4 in 2 frames, allowing 2 hits and a walk, he’s ready, Freddy.
Steve Okert had a clean frame. He’s always ready.
The RJ Reynolds cigarette of the game is split between Slade Heathcott and CJ Hinojosa!
Heathcott’s bat escorted his 11th dinger from the premises. He was 3 for 4 with a BB and K and is batting .286. Nothing to lose by moving him to AAA now and have him ready to play some CF next year. Heck even this September! Oh yeah, Hinojosa was 4 for 5, bringing his avg up to .235. Needs to keep plugging away, but he could be a back up infielder at the big level in a couple of years.
Remember Daniel Carbonell, the Giants big Cuban prize? He was 3 for 4 for San Jose. Even stole his 3rd bag. Jake McCasland with a solid 7 innings pitched in a loss.
This has been the minor league report from your favorite farm system!
I was happy to see Carbonell’s name again, if only to see it. Still at A ball isn’t so great! I think he was put on the 40-man right after his signing, for a while.
You named 3 guys at AAA who along with Arroyo might as well be handed tickets to SF.
Parker will be on rehab very soon. It will be quite interesting to see if he can grab a OF slot.
Always appreciate some MyGuyâ„¢ Information to feed our hope.
Maybe the continued fade is the only way Bochy feels free to try all these guys and give his Veterans freedom to go play for a contender instead of him?
Just maybe Bochy is doing Hill a favor and showcasing his bench talents so that he can join a contending roster. There is logic in the vet loving heart of Bruce Bochy.
The Chico Outlaws are contending???
I was thinking of the Marysville Gold Sox.
Release him at least and let other teams scout him. Yes, long shot but at least better than blocking prospects here. Conor, Morse, Gorkys are in the same boat.
I was thinking about those Gold Sox too. Nice artwork on the stadium as you drive past on Hwy 70 thru town diversion.
Something healthy about a town with a baseball park near the center; or at least on that Highway 70 route. The local JC plays there too; that was the last game I saw there.
The best town on that theme is Nicasio in Marin County. The main road actually was made to bend around the field; a real image of “Slow down; baseball is more important than having and easy road through out town.” I put it on the HaakAwayBaseballTourâ„¢ of NorCal.
Been in Nicasio, a friend of friend, and my friend too, grew up on a ranch out there. He used to hang glide and stuff, now he flies for a major airliner back east. Continental perhaps.
I’m all-in for Bochy playing for a contender.
Ha … nice extension of my logic to make a point.
I think Bochy needs help [Flan-Again-type] but to end it here?
Giants on the top trade deadline candidates list:
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/06/top-50-trade-deadline-candidates-for-2017-2.html
8 (tie). Eduardo Nunez, INF, Giants (LR: NR): The versatile rental player is probably the most likely player to leave San Francisco this summer. He’s not maintaining last year’s power numbers, but is running wild (17 steals) and providing solid all-around production. He could fit with a lot of organizations.
35. Johnny Cueto, SP, Giants (LR: NR): Somewhat like his rotation-mate, the 31-year-old is lagging in the ERA department(4.57) but is in normal levels in most areas. That said, his velo is down a smidge and he’s suffering from a rising home-run rate (1.66 per nine with 18.4% HR/FB) and diving groundball rate (39.6%). If those normalize, he’ll look much like the top-line hurler he usually is. Still, his trade situation — and value — is greatly complicated by the opt-out clause in his contract. If he pitches well and stays healthy through the end of the year, Cueto will almost surely leave via free agency. If not, he could hang a $87MM obligation on another organization.
50. Hunter Strickland, RP, Giants (LR: NR): The high-powered, hot-tempered righty hasn’t exactly been at his best, with nearly double last year’s walk rate even as his ERA sits at an excellent 2.08, but his power arsenal would surely hold appeal. And if he has worn out his welcome a bit through the Bryce Harper beaning incident, then perhaps the Giants will see fit to move him.
Yeah but if we get rid of Nunez, Cueto, and Strickland aren’t we just resigned to a few 100-loss seasons in a row? We’ve got very little going on in AA/AAA.
I’d only regret the loss of Nunez but the Giants have 3B talent coming up. Cueto amounts to a cash flow problem – big money for quite a few more years will tie the Giants hands, so unloading him seems wise for 2018 and 2019. Strickland doesn’t fit into the SF Giants style of play, see Baggs story about his pending suspension messing up the Giants ability to set a bullpen roster to deal with that.
Yeah, Cueto isn’t exactly enhancing his bargaining position this year. Some guys just age faster than others.
You need a MyGuyâ„¢ Tour about prospects. Arroyo, Shaw, Ryder Jones, Heathcott, Crick, Gomez, Hwang are having impressive seasons that warrant an MLB try. Plus my favorite Duggar just now in rehab.
And if you are not impressed there … if they give up Nunez they can get a top prospect of your choice.
Not having Nunez, Cueto and Strickland does nothing to resign the Giants to multiple 100-loss seasons. They were contributors; Cueto would have won Game Five last year but there is so much more to their true core that I would not feel resigned at all.
But I am a MyGuyâ„¢ fan and think what the Giants have is a collective, injury based slump year; not a sign of the future.
Not sure I feel as sanguine, but your consistently upbeat outlook is refreshing among the mostly gloom doom cynicism here.
But I do not mind having “doom and gloom” friends to check my Upbeatedness run amok.
Yes, It wouldn’t be a very interesting blog without disagreement.
3 of the top 50, peaking at #8 shows the tremendously bad position which the team finds itself
things could turn for Johnny Quest. He could make himself appealing as the best frontline starter available. That has to count for something for a playoff team in need of a potential postseason hoss.
3 of the top 50 when there are 30 teams isn’t bad.
Slightly surprised Samardjiza isn’t on there.
Wait, just took a closer look at the link out of interest and Samardjiza is #34:
Look behind the 4.31 ERA — before tonight’s shellacking at Coors Field — and there are some eye-popping numbers. Entering today’s action Shark was carrying 10.5 K/9 against just 1.3 BB/9. Scouts have always loved him, and he’s showing why in 2017 even if the results still haven’t always been there. The 32-year-old is owed $18MM annually through 2020, which is hardly an all-time bargain but does seem like less than he’d likely command if he re-entered the market after the year. It’s worth bearing in mind that Samardzija can block deals to all but eight (currently unknown) teams, though, and it’s not entirely clear the Giants will be looking to move him with the club looking forward to several possible rotation openings next year.
The big problem with Samardzija is pitching out of the stretch. His numbers with runners on base are much much worse.
and that is a problem .
But it is a specific problem. And I’ve been impressed with how Samardzija has been making frequent adjustments since he got to the team. Adding a curve, adding a splitter-changeup, changing the place he stands on the rubber, he’s definitely not just standing pat. Unfortunately this hasn’t yet resulted in an improvement in basic stats like ERA.
Honorable mention. You and I could make a totally different list. But seems like a very reasonable guy to call on. A team in contention wanting to essentially add a strong free agent starter midseason – here’s some prospects we’ll take that favorable contract, thank you very much.
Don’t trade Strickland. He hasn’t given up homer all year, his pull rate is down, and his infield flies are way up. He’s pitching well.
Footy, this is off the topic, but I can’t resist. Last Saturday’s volunteer project was weed whacking a sorta hilly trail. In previous years, we did that all by hand, with a blade you swing at the nettles and stuff. This year they decided to do parts of it by mowing, so the county rented a Billy Goat. I was impressed: anything that went in its maw got really chewed up. And very glad that the responsibility for running it was in the hands of the young and strong county employee.
You could tame that Billy Goat yourself. It powers itself, once you get the hang of making 3 point turns with it, it’s’ no problem. A colleague at the station has mentioned family weed whacking events where they actually use a scythe to clear tall grass. Sounds like a grim task, but he insists it’s fun.
Weed whacking is the traditional June project, when the weeds have grown in, and its fairly hot so the project can’t be too tough. Actually, we now skip months until September.
The weed whacker below is easy on nettles, very hard work on grass, and in between for other things. The Billy Goat seemed best on flat places, by far, and I’d sure want it for big grassy areas. The trail was bumpy enough that the county employee looked pretty spent at the end of the morning.
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versus
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what on earth is that ? do you swing it and it grabs and pulls?
You do practice your golf swings with it. Helps you prepare for the divot shots
I’ve used the first one. If you’re too tall or too short the angle of the blade makes it very inefficient (or back pain provoking). Plus, no one seems to get the same cutting efficiency on forward swing as they do on backswing. All-in-all a bad idea consummated poorly.
The infamous swing knife, or sling blade is real tool of merit.
some folks call it a sling blade, i call it a kaiser blade..
In the middle of clearing a fence row, I had some alternate terms of art describe it as well. But, had to clear ~50 feet of river front for a dock and driveway once, and I remember throwing it into the middle of the little Colorado River in celebration.
We gotta get Kelby going. How about a start for the Kelbster?
In 46 PAs, he’s batting .279/.311/.279 with wRC+ of 64. Coors is the perfect place to get some XBH and regress his production towards the mean.
I think they may have finally seen enough of Hill. They deserved to be ripped if we see him start another game.
For Bochy there’s no such thing as enough of Hill.
His SAR ( Singles Above Replacement) must be off the charts
He’s leading off today.
Boo-yeah. 3 for 4, 2B, 3B, BB, SB could be in store.
I thought there wasnt any cursing allowed here oh i get it that rule applies to me only!
WEED WHACKING ON TWG OH MY THIS 2017 SEASON IS FUCKED!
But this blog is eclectic.
First off, I think Bochy will step down if it appears they will go through a rebuilding process. So not to worry Bochy haters. Think he’s seen enough losing in his 23 years. Those Padres were really bad for about 5-6 consecutive years and he endured the post Bonds drought.
Evans is a tricky call. I think he inherited a difficult situation and don’t fault him as much as some. They needed to rebuild he rotation, the pen and the OF. My criticism of him would be he seems to go for the obvious and pricey fix ie; chasing Pablo Lester and other FA’s. It’s a valid criticism that he was less than imaginative going all in on Melancon and not addressing the OF. The Nunez Duffy Moore thing at least showed some creative thinking and that’s what they need more of, rather than say spending $100m on Samarz and ignoring the bench and the OF situation.
I don’t think they will have a major sell off. During the Sabean era, they have rarely if eve traded established players for prospects. They did move Matt Morris, but I think Rajai Davis was already with the Pirates. There was Mark Sweeney for Travis Denker. ;). And if they can’t get results via the draft, how can anyone feel confident they will trade for the right prospects??
In April, Sabean was ga ga over Beede’s progress. Now? Maybe the kid got bored waiting. Maybe it’s a simple mechanics things, who knows? Maybe they trade for a kid like Gary Brown, tearing it up in A ball. Oops.
Maybe we’ll see a new approach now but with the core making all that dough, I doubt it will happen just yet. I suspect they will make some moves add a FA or two, promote some kids and hope that with Bum Smith back, Arroyo and Slater ready to roll now that they have some experience, things will improve and they can at least be competitive. It won’t be a championship caliber team but I doubt they are going to just burn it down and throw out a group that is out of contention in May, just so they can draft in the top 5.
Why do people keep forgetting that Sabean is still in charge? As I’ve quoted before, the story about the press conference announcing Evans’ promotion included the following:
“While Sabean will retain veto power over all Giants transactions, Evans will head day-to-day baseball operations and free up Sabean to get back to more live scouting as well as plot and oversee a long-term blueprint he hopes assures the franchise success well into the future.”
You can’t realistically discuss Evans’ performance without remembering how the organization set things up. He’s not the primary shot caller.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2015/04/03/giants-extend-sabean-bochy-through-2019-name-bobby-evans-g-m/
I would agree. I just didn’t have time to include that caveat. The moves have the Sabean imprimatur.
1) Evans IS calling the shots
2) Sabes is still lurking
This is what I think, too: Evans is the main boss. I have no evidence, other than Sabean’s era seeming to be better! I am also thinking that Evans may be setting the roster w/o as much input from Bochy as Sabean accepted. And BB15 can only make out a lineup from the 25man list he’s got. I admit to some curiosity as to other’s opinions on how the chain of command runs at the moment.
I have the feeling you’re right. My understanding is that Bochy is much closer to Sabean than to Evans, but there is something radically dysfunctional going on (like the Smith trade and Bochy’s reaction to it) which suggests that whoever is running things in management is not on the same page as Bochy.
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Make Mexico Zapotec Again!
Yes! BTW did you know Pernod purchased Del Maguay?
I didn’t! Thanks..
My buddy Chris handles Pernod for us.
What’s up with Belt’s numbers this year. Not good
even the OPS has dropped to the 750 level. He’s an .812 career OPS, so maybe it’s not all that crazy. Just a bum first half. Or maybe he isn’t the .868 OPS guy from last year.
Yeah, he will probably get hot in the 2h at some point. Not that I am huge advocate of trading Belt, but I wonder what his trade value would be.
Yeah, he’ll get hot in the 2nd half…and then he’ll get cold, and then hot, and then…
While I’ve always been a Belt guy, it’s relevant to remember that his numbers last year were built on a great first half, when he hit .302/.407/.521/.928, with 42 extra base base hits. His second half was similar to what’s he’s done so far this season. Since the 2016 all star break, (579 PAs), he’s hit .231/.351/.414/.765, with 18 HRs. He hasn’t slipped as badly as the team’s record, but neither has he been who he was. If MLB made a rule limiting shifts, he’d be the happiest guy in baseball.
Think he’d be happy in Philly?
Maybe it’s the money.
IMO, with Belt’s unwillingness or inability to use LF as a hitting target, he’s about done. The shift is going to do to him, what it did to Ryan Howard, essentially end his career.
That’s a harsh assessment
I made the mistake of looking at successive spray charts of Belt’s hitting over the last few years, before and after he has been defensed by the shift. Then I read an article on what will keep Ryan Howard out of any consideration for the HOF. I’m not equating Belt, Howard, or saying either should be HOF material, but Belt is hitting by my judgement 70 120 points below what his average might be without the shift. IMO, it’s truly astonishing what his hard head, or talent deficit has cost him.
Hopefully trade him while some team(s) out there still think they can be the one(s) to get through to him and unlock all that perceived potential. Giants probably fear they’ll finally move him and all of a sudden, he’ll become Keith Hernandez somewhere else.
It’s a real concern. If he forces teams out of the shift, he’s Joey Votto plus.
You’d think if he doesn’t while playing in AT&T, then where? In another – i.e smaller – park, he may go even more pull crazy.
I’m assuming someone on another team can dump some of those rocks out of his head. I’ve always seen him as a top spin LD hitter. So I don’t think a park change is a big deal, unless it was Yankee Stadium.
Love the metaphor
He’d also be a happy camper surrounded by lethal hitters, back at like 6/7 in a lineup, like say in NY.
Belt seem unfazed by his place in the order. In fact, he may actually hit better at the bottom of the order.
badabing
That’s kind of a loser’s mentality.
I don’t think so
You are ON to something ….
He’s having bad babip luck. His contact statistics are good.
it’s familiar, predicable contact – like Span has
But the numbers are much better than Span’s. 24% line drives, 35% hard-hit. Basically his career average. But his BABIP is .259. 75 points below his career average. He’s having very bad luck.
He’s hitting it where they are and when they have like 5 defenders on the right side, it’s hard for him to find a hole. It’s hit it out or bust.
But that’s been the situation for years and his average has generally been much higher.
he used to shop at the Gap, the opposite field one.
Actually i just noticed he’s hitting a lot more ground balls this year than last (35% vs 26%). That would be a problem with the shift.
He has built in 6’5 long limbs-long torso issues. His top hand still over-grips his bottom hand. His feet are still where in the batters box HE want them, not what you’d teach a pupil to stand. His lower and upper arms are a bunch of sharp-elbow-and-arm angles that allows him to absolutely destroy any pitch he is looking for AND gets. Any other type pitch and the pitcher will simply win most battles.
He’ll always have the base on balls.
I like the acoustic jam station in the morning for dishwork. this is beautiful, I really love a well done cover…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foJ-Fs6DWZM
His version is fantastic. The original is one of the greatest songs ever recorded.
I just knew you’d know that, y’know what I’m sayin’?
Sending this one out to Slik!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RdYaQPYokw
Where’s John Myhill? Slater’s hitting fifth today! Kelby leading off. Gorkys and Hill in the lineup, too. No Brandons and no Span.
He pleads the fifth?
Hanging out with his Peeps in Israel at University of Haifa
JM is looking up Slater’s splits when hitting 5th. : )
How about those River Cats last night? From the game report:
“Things looked bleak for the Sacramento River Cats (26-40) as they headed into the eighth inning trailing 4-1 tonight at Cashman Field, but a four-run inning helped lift Sacramento to a 6-4, come-from-behind win over the Las Vegas 51s (27-41).
Sacramento had just five hits in the game entering the eighth inning before Juan Ciriaco opened the frame with a leadoff single. Orlando Calixte followed with an RBI triple before scoring on Conor Gillaspie’s base hit. Ryder Jones was next, blasting a two-run home run just inside the foul pole in right to give Sacramento a 5-4 lead. The River Cats added another run in the ninth when Calixte, who had just hit his second triple of the night, scored on a wild pitch.
For Jones, the home run was his third in his last three games. He also added an RBI-double in the first inning, finishing the night with three RBI. His 10 home runs lead the club while his 30 RBI are second behind fellow third baseman Jae-Gyun Hwang (39).”
https://www.milb.com/river-cats/news/four-run-eighth-lifts-river-cats-to-come-from-behind-w/c-237006770/t-196093390
Four-run eighth lifts River Cats to come-from-behind “W”
Jones hits 10th homer, his third in his last three games in 6-4 win
Laughter aside, even though a smaaallll sample size, Slater seems to exhibit his power toward LHP, and average toward RHP. I guess that jibes with his opposite field approach.
we gotta see these guys
https://i.imgur.com/TL4x7PI.png
All RH except Panik who is 12 for his last 30 (.400) but is hitting just .215 against L’s.
A plan developing. That’s what Bochy did a few days ago in that 13 run deluge.
More Bochy brilliance. That 13 run game resulted primarily from the Giants getting to face the worst series of pitchers they’ll see all season.
It’s a plan based on desperation, not insight. BTW, does being a hater make you happy?
Austin 5th!! Eat your heart out, John Myhill! This one’s for you.
Kelby assigned some real responsibility today: lead off, and also do as good a Crawford imitation as possible.
2017 Giants vs 1985 Giants per John Shea
http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/article/Giants-becoming-historically-bad-lose-to-Rockies-11226977.php&cmpid=twitter-premium
One of TWG’s own was in the Outfield, Heck Deer wore 28 before Posey!
Chili Davis
Rob Deer
Dan Gladden
Jeffrey Leonard
Ron Roenicke
Joel Youngblood
The ’85 team was led by my favorite Giant, Jim Davenport. Their roster was solid. Too many injuries to overcome and as we all know with Hum-Baby in 86-87- 89 – it led to You Gotta Like These Kids etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_San_Francisco_Giants_season#Roster
The mores of this great game have really evolved. In 1968 while on the disabled list Mickey Mantle was hanging out in the bull-pen when a female fan decided to have her way with the Mick.
http://fireballed.org/linked/2011/02/02/mantle-under-the-bleacher/
Here in 2017 Puig can’t get away from Double Birding some Cleveland fan. That must be buried in the Baseball Code Book.
Not that I’m missing them much but what’s happening with Gillaspie and Morse?
Opened a snow cone stand in Davenport, Iowa?
DBA Mr Happy’s?
who?
This is from last night’s pre-game story by Baggs:
In the meantime, Conor Gillaspie is unfairly caught in this limbo. He’s
ready to return from his minor league rehab assignment, but the Giants
cannot swap out a pitcher for a position player while Strickland’s
suspension looms. Giants manager Bruce Bochy said he spoke to Gillaspie,
who understood the situation.
The ‘limbo’ there means Strickland is trying to appeal his blatant throw at the batter penalty from 6 days down to 5. I don’t understand why this would block a move such as activate Gillaspie while saying ‘goodbye, thanks’ to Hill.
Music and baseball. Some friends of mine who play in a couple of groups I do also play in the LGBT community band of SF. They are playing the National Anthem for the Giants In a couple of weeks. One asked if they were short a bass player would I fill in. Of course I said but you know ummmmmmmmmm I don’t fit the profile. I gave him two names of bass players in Sac who do fit the profile and said if they are short I would step in. Like my son said a gig is a gig.
like bass horn or string bass?
bass horn, there seems to be a shortage of us. I have offers for several other groups from here to Wisconsin.
you play any strings such as guitar or piano?
I use to play the piano. My son is the string player, bass and violin. After picking it up for six months he played with a symphony. I was kind of impressed. My long lost cousin sent me an heirloom banjo from the 20’s my son is learning to play it for fun.
Talking about music I didn’t know until about two days ago they’d made a documentary on the legendary Bert Berns and screenings in SF and Berkeley have come and gone. I know there’s Netflix but would have loved seeing it on the big screen. I need to stay up on current events.
The Giants’ and Bochy’s record over their past 141 games is 56-85. Included among those 141 games games have been many poor and weird decisions. He’s now just 15 games over .500 for his career. This needs to be his last season.
Oh god, I’d hate for him to creep back to the .500 line – which he is on pace to do.
If he isn’t below .500 by the end of this season, he definitely will be if he sticks around for next year.
Your honesty is a brutal blade.
Sling?
Maybe he goes to another team that is built to win. Leyland was 62 games under .500 before going to Detroit and finishing with a .506 pct.
Anybody notice that Hernandez hand position and swing have changed? It seemed so to me last night, although 1 AB doesn’t tell you much I guess.
Bam bam to the rescue!
Somebody seems to be working with him, who, your guess is as good as mine. Maybe we’ll see better from him today.
It’s all part of the process, constant adjustments, much like life.
He’s on a tear. .455 in June!
Rather than be cynical, maybe he’ll dig out. Hope for the best.
In a lost yr, why not? Can cut him more slack than some of these multi-millionaires badly under performing.
He’s awful. His presence on the roster is the clearest demonstration of their lack of talent. I predict he will someday be an exhibit in the “Ripley’s Believe it or Not” museum. How did this man hold a roster spot for an entire season?
Good morning all.
You know, I consider myself a die-hard Giants fan. I’ve been following them for the better part of 45 years now; for better or worse. I suffered through some bad Giants teams of the 70’s, save for 1978, the 96-loss team of 1984 and the infamous 1985 team that lost 100 games, witness the re-birth of the franchise starting in 1986, followed by a division title in 1987 and a pennant in 1989. The Bonds years put SF back on the baseball map and led to a new ballpark. After some lean years (2005-2008), the Giants went in a new direction with pitching. It paid off with 3 World Championships in 5 seasons and I could not be happier. None of us could.
What does this all mean? Well, most of you have been blogging longer than I have (I have been doing this since last July), are longtime Giants fans with a vast knowledge of baseball and of the team; of which I respect. Even as bad as the Giants are playing this year, I have never given up on this team. I always hope that they can turn it around, get hot and get back in the race. I have never written them off until they’re mathematically eliminated. Until now. I’ve come to the realization that this is not the Giants year, that there are too many similarities of 1985, the outfield defense is god awful, Moore is god awful, why are Gorkys and Hill still here, etc, etc. I’ve read the comments; from all of you about what we should do with Cueto, Shark, Nunez. Rebuild? Blow the whole thing up? Go young? Fire Evans? Fire Sabey Sabes? Fire both of them? Fire Bochy? I think the point here is, is that no one has the answers to these questions. While it is fun to play armchair GM, and the fact that most of us are passionate about the Giants, I could do without some of the mudslinging amongst a couple of you on here with each other. Yes, everyone has their own opinions on here, but let’s keep it civil, please? Respect each other comments; no matter how dumb they may sound to you and not to belittle said commenter. I love the Giants just as much as the next person here, but as bad as they’re playing, I’m not going to waste 3 hours of my day watching bad baseball, even if I can DVR it. Not going to do it. Baseball is and always will be my favorite sport, but I can’t subject myself to shit baseball. Life is too short and you only live once (Yes, YOLO). This is not the Giants. So, having said that, I am waving the white flag on 2017. Yes, I am a die-hard, but I also know I’m a realist. I will continue to follow the prospects down on the farm, see who could be on the Giants next year or 2019 and get ready for Spring Training 2018, as myself and Mrs. Crawnik will be down there in March. Thanks for letting me rant.
Awesome rant. Real glad you didn’t sign off from the blog at the end.
Thanks Footy. I’ll probably log off later. I’m at Mrs. Crawnik’s workplace this morning. She i catching up on work.
Atta Babe. Good reminders. Thanks Brother
This is the Giants. While I’m sure you’re a good guy, a “die-hard” fan doesn’t ever wave the white flag, especially after one bad season that has followed so much winning.
I’m also a realist.
No doubt, but not a die-hard. More like a die-easy.
How many of us are Bruce Willis? C’mon man, nobody is that tough!
There no shame in it, but don’t give yourself a title that doesn’t fit.
What is your most fitting title?
You are a piece of work TO.
Do you think a die-hard fan gives up?
I think it’s a term of art people use as they endure this season, and try and maintain a positive outlook based on the past. Man your rope has some weird twists in it.
Exactly CC.
To humans, you were pretty clear I thought.
As I stated in my comment, respect each other’s comments, no matter how dumb they may sound to you and not to belittle said commenter. Apparantly, this part of my comment was lost on you.
I wasn’t disrespectful, unless disagreeing itself is disrespectful. By definition, a die-hard fan never gives up. If non-stop affirmation is the goal, Facebook is the place to be.
Did you interpret his words and apply them? Doesn’t seem so.
I’m sorry, I don’t recall asking what your definition of a die-hard is. I just wanted to state my thoughts on this year’s Giants and to remind everyone to be RESPECTFUL. I’m done with you TO.
The other day we had an exchange, and you seemed confused that I considered you a “bully” .
Do you not stop to think that “just stating” your “opinion” like you just did to a die hard (yes) fan like Crawnik after his impassioned post may come off as something from a list such as : Ill-timed, mean spirited, bullying, unfriendly, condescending, unnecessary, provoking…and a few other words?
Sometimes you make a point at the worst time, and given your obvious intelligence, it’s not an accident. It’s clearly on purpose. Why do you do it?
I get we can all have opinions. I really don’t have an issue with that part. Some like to wrestle with each other ( me included). I get it’s a blog and it’s “fair game”, but there is also something called decency.
Your response to Crawnik explaining how you have decided he can’t claim the title “die hard” isn’t very nice. And, I’m not sure you care.
It’s a blog. It’s about opinions and disagreements. I disagreed with his view of what constitutes a die-hard fan. Unlike some who disagree with me, including the very obvious example of yourself, I didn’t call him any names or impugn his character. Beyond that, I guess I have a thicker skin than most, but I don’t even understand getting emotional about a contrary opinion. I can’t even remember all the names you’ve called me at this point, but I don’t have any negative feelings towards you. Thankfully, this isn’t Facebook.
So, that’s the answer? Which doesn’t speak to any questions I asked. I know what my words to you are intended to do…you are aware of yours as well. Claiming your “thick skin” doesn’t let you off the hook for how and what you say to people. Because, the difference is our tough words back to you are always in response…yours are first strikes. I genuinely ask you to be aware of that
Jesus Phookinging Christo – You’ve painted your into a corner as to a/your former football team that you rooted for – which – you quit on because of Jed. There must be some work day equivalency for you on the workroom force. You quit on the 49ers due to Jed/Tomsula even though there is more than one player who would tell you that Harbaugh is clueless https://saturdayblitz.com/2017/05/26/michigan-football-brandon-jacobs-jim-harbaugh-jab/
So lets see you tell Crawnick “this is the Giants” . Hmmmm I bet he was happy in 10-12-14.
Do you have loved ones or bosses who you stop CARING for and wish perennial harm on because so and so boss is promoted or so and so Uncle is coming to Dinner.
You’ve set institutional lows on this site for misogyny and total lack of any sports acumen. Somehow if Trump had been caught abusing the private parts of your family – you’d still find a way of trying to put that into it’s private place. You use the arcane and inane “it’s a blog” to cover all your abhorrent flaws. I bet Chief Gamez could not wait to leave The Jose – having dudes like you call yourselves Peace Officers.
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Nice rant by you. For this season I no longer care about the wins and losses, they just need to be competitive and fun, score a few runs once in a while, hit a few homers, quit playing the waste of time guys, etc. I’m off to play ball now and have some fun.
get some hits for the gang!
Enjoy yourself PS35.
I really like this post. I’d be so very happy to see them playing near 0.500 by the end of the season. Defensively, to look like their coach was Ron Wotus. Pitching, throw a 1,2,3 inning right after the batters score a run. When hitting, execute stuff like scoring a lead off double. Just good decent baseball would make me as happy as you.
I spent last night during the game at dinner with the family and teaching my 3 year old niece how to climb walls. She is going to be a beast. At my age I have to pick which options to spend my time. On the couch or being the favorite zio Noce.
As most here I’m a die hard Giants fan and will continue to watch…even this season. Will be interesting to see what they do in terms of the trade deadline and perhaps giving some of the kids in the minors a shot. I will rant on something though since it’s a good time to rant. Assuming nothing changes and they’re no closer after the break than they are now, how about putting the kabash on the midnight replay for the balance of the year. I’d rather listen to Amy Lawrence. Bring it back next year. My two cents.
That’s a die-hard fan.
It’s tough enough grinding through these losses as they’re happening, but rhen listening to them after the fact is bit much…even for me. 🙂
You really listen to the replay? You may be in the category above die-hard.
No I don’t. That’s my point I’m a late owl and sometimes there’s an nteresting subject being discussed on late night spots talk radio and they preempt it at midnight for the game, which I turn off. I have the same question…who listens to those replays? If they want to replay something, replay the Warriors 16-1 postseason run.
You’re like an ornithologist in the field.
I can spot ’em.
In his last 5 starts, Matt Cain is 0-4 with an ERA of 7.09 and a WHIP of nearly 2. He’s pitching today against the Rockies at Coors Field. What could go wrong?
Not to be a pessimist but more like “What could go right?”
Coors Field and the current Colorado line up against Cain?
Nice day dream that Matt was back to a serviceable MLB pitcher.
The goal is simply to be better than Matt Moore.
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