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Surf Maui
I am writing this while winging my way to San Francisco in hopes of seeing the mastery of MadBum and the Giants in post season elimination games continue. Yesterday at the game was not fun–though I did meet three high basketball coaches from Ohio, only one of whom was a Cubs fan–who were seated next to me in the nosebleed seats. I was right behind home plate but almost at the top of the stadium. One of the basketball coaches was a big Reds fan who had attended the first elimination (Reverend Hunter Pence game) in 2010 when Homer Bailey pitched a one hitter and lost to the Giants. He remembered all too well—as should all of us– that it is very possible to come back from an 0-2 deficit. And the 2010 Giants did it winning three in a row on the road.
Wrigley Field, for all of it’s history (mostly losing for more than 100 years) is a terrible place to watch a baseball game–horrible sight lines, crowded passageways, limited restrooms with huge lines, and fans and vendors who clog the aisles. Of course my feelings about the place are somewhat impacted by the fact that the Giants have now lost 6 of 7 there this season. Though to be fair we should have won at least two of the regular season games, and the missed Hernandez swing strike may have cost us a tie in game one.
Also the Cubs fans are real jerks–even by Mets fans standards. When Bumgarner reached base on a smoked ball that went for an error, I actually heard a fan behind me say that he hoped that MadBum tore his Achilles tendon running the bases, so that he couldn’t pitch game 3. No kidding. But that also illustrates the false bravado and insecurity of fans of a team with more than a lifetime of losing. Giants fans over the last few years have the well borne out feeling that “just get us to a critical game and we’ll figure out how to win it,” while Cubs fans, for all their tough talk about their great young team, are just waiting for something to go wrong, so they can go back to their losing comfort zone. (See e.g. Steve Bartman). Obviously I don’t knows about the players, but my sense is that if we can figure out how to put the pressure on them–admittedly a big “if,” without scoring any runs– they will fold.
Again Cubs fans–delirious with two wins under their belts– felt that they had earned the right put their hands on me– to explain how the Cubs were kicking our butts. (Hmmmm, I wonder if they have been watching developments in the Presidential Race about inappropriate touching.)
Although most of you had a baseball off day today, I got to go to another game– the playoffs in the Fall League 9 years old and younger little league. My grandson pitched 3 scoreless innings (maximum allowed) letting up no hits, no runs, and striking out 4. He also went two for three, with the Stoppers winning 6-1 to advance to the finals next Sunday.
One of the discussions that I had with the basketball coaches is whether if we won game 3 would you pitch Cueto on short rest in game 4. They all said yes–but I say absolutely not. The point is to maximize your chances of winning 5 games, and winning game 4 but losing game 5 makes no difference to elimination. So Cueto on short rest reduces the probability that he is effective, and you would need another pitcher for game 5 anyway, so the short rest lowers the probability of winning both games–by a lot.
Then I was off to SFO and getting ready for two wins at home. We got them right where we want them, I was thinking to myself. MadBum is human (I think), and eventually at some point he is destined to have a bad game even in the post season. Let’s just hope it’s not Monday and I really didn’t think it would be…
NO CELEBRATIONS AT AT&T. Let’s live to fight another day… Unfortunately it was not to be…
Editor’s Note: This post was edited to reflect the time that had passed between writing and publication. Thanks Surf Maui. Fun stuff. Your sense of humor is drier than the winds of the Sahara…
Great story Surf. Thank you. Some Cub fan wanted MadBum to tear his Achilles huh? I think dude is just jealous. Plus, you’re right about Cubs fans being obnoxious. They’re just as obnoxious at AT&T, but I’m still pulling for them in the NLCS.
By the way, today is October 17th. I’m asking all of our TWG family, where were you on this date in 1989? I had just got home from work, walked up my driveway and felt it roll underneath me. I suppose you know where I’m going with this.
I was in section 53 at the Stick….took me 8 hours to drive back home when it usually took 1:45. Cell phone towers were down and Beauty was 7 1/2 months pregnant with our daughter at home….and I wasn’t able to call her for quite some time. So, she just saw the overhyped carnage via TV news and wondered if I was alive, and I thought she was going into labor…
Bless your heart that you made it out of there safe, and baby is all growns up now.
You had a cell phone in 1989?
I did…big ugly one. Didn’t you?
You were a high roller. I don’t think I had one until somewhere around 96-97.
It was this fat little thing with a leather snap case….all of us that had them at the game were all verklempt trying to make calls…I ended up pulling off 101S into an office and calling form a landline. I drove south around 280/680 because I was not going on any bridge…
I have an old style flip phone- I can you from personal experience that they are indestructible when closed. Do not ever try to stomp it into oblivion.The phone wins, your foot loses.
I was at the Stick too…can’t remember the exact section, but it was definitely nose bleeds. Had come up on the train from San Jose and met my parents there. Was standing in line to get dinner when it hit. Once we found out the game had been cancelled, it took about 6+ hours or so to dig back south on I-280 because of all the detours.
Guy in front of us had a handheld TV, which is when we saw the Bay Bridge section that collapsed. Wouldn’t drive over it for more than a year after.
Arizona Fall League Summary
Scottsdale Scorpions
Giants (Aramis, Ryder, Zambrano, Cole) are hitting .371
All others players on the Scorpions are hitting .215.
SSS but a point that the Giants Farm system may be okay.
Efrain stuck his fingers in his ears and is screaming “LALALALALALALA!!!”
Ha ha … the rest of the Scorpions is made up of prospects from the Red Sox, Indians, Tigers and Twins.
“Okay” being the operative term.
As a Nudger I always try to understate.
When 22sSweetSwing gets past some home repair emergencies he will post the MyGuy™ numbers and stimulate a conversation about how healthy the Giants farm system is.
Quick take for 2016 is that Law moved up to MLB and Bickford, Susac, Fox, Santos and Mejia were valued enough to get the Giants two above average MLB veterans. Parker and Mac did not break through but you could argue that they did okay with what they were given but they were not given much of a chance.
the health of the farm system can be assessed on two fronts:
-how many impact talent players are in the system (Giants very light on this front)
-how well can farm system support the major league team right now (Giants are in favorable position here)
You’re always going on about My Guys but I don’t see how you can justify saying healthy, it just comes off as an extremely Homer fan POV.
The system failed the Giants this past season by not providing much help down the stretch, thus having the team rely on old vets plus it didn’t fetch us what we really needed in a trade, the closer, because teams said not thank you.
Can’t just blame it all on Bochy’s love for vets. The team just does not have any Bryants or Seagers in the system, hell not even a Pederson, Conforto or Soler for that matter. You may like Parker and Mac but they are not even in the same level.
Sometime best to take a step back and make a rational observation of the situation, and not just let emotion cloud your judgement.
I think my phrasing misled you:
“… stimulate a conversation about how healthy the Giants farm system is.”
That is a conversation to have; I was not making the statement that it is healthy.
I would love to see how true results stack up and compare.
“How many all-stars has your system produced?”
“How much WAR has your system produced over a given amount of time?”
What questions would you use to measure this?
I do not know much about other teams so I would need help to gauge such questions. I just see so many “Prospects” lists and very few writers that come back to admit that the results did not support their predictions.
They don’t need top admit anything because it’s a given that baseball is the hardest of the pro leagues to decipher, it’s basically a crap shot.
Still, the community at large always has certain players at the top for a reason and has a feel for the different organizations.
Why would you even expect a writer to circle back? No reason to.
If I told you to buy stock in this and that company and some worked out and some didn’t isn’t it right to revisit what I misread? Baseball players are not companies but I think the principle still applies: I want to know how close I was on my predictions so I learn something for next time.
In the field when I diagnosed and treated a patient and handed them off to the paramedics who took them to the ER, I always called up to see what they really had. How else would I learn?
What causes concern about the PCL, especially the giants farm team, is the historical .050 to .070 differential at the ML level. Time after time .300+ hitting prospects show up here as .220 -.230 hitters.
It is a hitters league for sure.
Panik’s .321 in the PCL became a .305 on about equal time in 2014.
In 2015 that became .312. [This year was broken up with the injury.]
He is the success story and I do not pick him so much to disprove you but to remember that generally there is a great dip but some guys are ready. Every few years you get a Posey, Crawford, Belt, Duffy, Panik right?
The guys who have been useful from the PCL have been mostly contact style hitters to my eye. You make a good point, though. Everytime one makes a point as I did, you’re talking about the typical hitter or putative ‘power guy’ who isn’t. What annoys me is that the typical prospect seem unable or unwilling to have sustained good AB’s to force the issue with a pitcher. Look at Parker and Williams as examples. Most PA’s, 3-4 pitches and back to the bench. I think they don’t realize the value of that 6-10 pitch AB and the value down the line in later ABs for them and their teammates.
Got me curious on the team Pitches/PA, since I don’t usually keep track. So I got curious:
Mac Williamson: 4.26
Bumgarner: 4.19
Belt: 4.15
Pence: 4.07
Parker: 3.94
Blanco: 3.93
Pagan: 3.88
League Average: 3.87
Span: 3.82
Crawford: 3.79
Panik: 3.76
Posey: 3.72
I wasn’t expecting Mac to lead the team, assumed it would be Belt, though in fairness, Belt was 20th in MLB among QUALIFIED batters. Mac’s numbers would likely go down with more PA.
Small sample numbers. What would be interesting is how PA break down by counts and what the variance is on those averages. We always seem to forget how big a deal variance is in a counting stat is during interpretation. But I’d have to admit, if nothing else, Williamson may be coming around. Wonder what their splits are against LH and RH pitching? What’s truly surprising is Bumgarner.
I’m curious to know the result on Mac. Let me know how you want me to split them up, I’ll do the leg work.
Eric maybe Mac is higher because he swings and misses or fouls off pitches that many other hitters would put in play.
I think that’s the case. He and Bumgarner swing and miss more than every hitter on the team. Both are also good about waiting for their pitch. They don’t chase a lot. Mac only had a 29% O-Swing, lower than Posey (sheesh and then there’s Nunez sitting at 41%. Gross)! Mac and Bum both have 2.5:1 Z Swing to O Swing (league average is 2.2:1). But both make pretty lousy contact. Interestingly, he sees less pitches in the zone than anybody on the team but Belt and Nunez. Belt is clearly due to respect, Nunez clearly because if *I* can see his 41% o-swing, you know they can. Mac doesn’t chase a lot though…so either teams are paying him big respect already, or they think he’s a chaser in waiting.
It shows how smart of at bats Bumgarner takes. He doesn’t just hack away up there, he is more and more looking for his pitch and letting it fly only after he gets it. He takes some of the best at bats on the team
The Paulie Mac song parodies are horrible…no comparison to the Howard Stern gold standard.
OK, let’s put a wrap on Chicago- shitty ballpark,douche bag team, lousy “pizza”, gumby shoulders. That about sums it up. On to LA.
Mmm, deep dish pizza for lunch sounds good…
From MLBTR, not a big surprise but there it is:
“Former teammate A.J. Ellis also spoke to Rosenthal about how frank Jansen is when discussing free agency. Ellis compared him to Zack Greinke in some respects, noting that Jansen feels he’s earned his one opportunity at a lucrative free-agent deal and figures to go to the highest bidder.”
I prefer Melancon, but its good to know it only takes a paycheck to get Jansen.
It’ll be interesting to watch the closer market this offseason. They’ll be in demand, there’s 3 top ones available, so we’ll see how high teams are willing to go and how fast they strike.
Also worth noting that Jansen will have a QO attached, and the others won’t.
“Jansen feels he’s earned his one opportunity at a lucrative free-agent deal and figures to go to the highest bidder.”
So that’s a bad thing?
It didn’t seem like it was stated as a bad thing.
Maybe not.
It wasn’t stated to be a bad thing. Just that Jansen unfortunately hasn’t dreamed of playing in AT&T his whole life, money be damned, and is willing to sign with the Giants for a fraction of his worth.
The reference to Zack Greinke was the red flag.
Weird, an FA wants to sign with whoever will pay him the most money. I’m being a bit tongue and cheek but this shouldn’t surprise anyone. He’s going to re-sign with the Dodgers if another team offers him more money. And he shouldn’t.
Baer says they are up for restructuring Bumgarner’s contract and giving him a long, long term deal.
Price got 7/217 at age 30.
Curious what the G’s will do. Current deal has 3 more years, do they extend 7?
Maybe they keep 2017 $ at 12m, go to say 18 in 18, 24 in 19, then avg about 32 per for 7 yrs? That’s $278m. Thoughts?
The important comp will be Cueto and not Price, IMO.
how so?
Same style, same added value, and comparable future value.
8/200 mil feels like such a nice round #.
I’m always leery of long term contracts for pitchers, even for Bum. He’s got a lot of mileage on that arm. His velocity was slightly down this year too (per Fangraph’s pitchfx). Unless Bum is willing to give a hometown discount, the best thing to do is probably see how it goes through 2019 first. You never know what will happen in the next 3 years. Decline in performance (Lincecum), injuries (Cain). Ideally you’d just tack on a few more years after 2019 rather than 7, but that’s not realistic. I love Bum, just not sure if it makes sense.
I agree with you, I would do it to appease the fans, but go no more than 6 years.
His FB is losing steam and he has a ton of mileage. And the Giants have a history of burning out starters.
So how would address this “history of burning out starters”?
How about a bullpen you could trust in the ninth?
E-Train said that the Giants have a history of burning out starting pitchers. I’m waiting for names.
How About Cain and Timmy before they were 32?
Counting the minors, Cain has pitched since 2002. Sorry-bad answer.
Considering his violent delivery an, it’s a miracle that Timmy lasted as long as he did.
How old were they when they gave out? Bums extension is going from Age 27 – 34? The last 2 ‘durable’ franchise pitcher who never missed anytime both were done by 32. And Zito who never spent anytime on the DL with the A’s spent how much on the DL with the Gs?
Jus’ Sayin’….
Unbelievable. Cain has pitched professionally since 2002 , Zito pitched from 1999 until 2013. We didn’t burn them out, unless you are saying that they should have been able pitched FOREVER.Are you understanding this at all?
I don’t understand your question? Address it?
The Giants with Bochy live and die with guys who consistently pitch 200+ innings, look at this season, even include Moore who came onto the scene late.
I’ve written previously that the Giants did a great job rolling out arms like Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez out there, but all three are mere shells of themselves at 32/33. Coincidence? Perhaps, or is it just a pattern of guys like that pitching a good 1000+ innings in a short period + the additional post season innings.
Will this happen to Bum? No one knows. He is built differently, but he has a lot on innings on his arm over the past 6 years. I caution to anything past a 5-6 year contract.
200 innings is hardly over working a starter. You WANT your top guys to do that-or more. That’s 6.25 innings per start based on 32 starts
But I wouldn’t go to even 6 years for a pitcher.
Baseball has a history of burning out starters…
It’s better to burn out,
than faaaaaaaade awaaaaaaaaaaaayyy…
Sometimes folks forget he has an unfriendly motion, and is made out of flesh and bone, like the rest of us.
No, he’s not. He’s made of calf ropes, ax handles, snot rocket and grit
LOL, Oh but were that so.
10/278 is just crazy talk. Plus I’d rather not sit through several years of people turning on Bumgarner and complaining about his 32 mil and guaranteed rotation spot is holding the team back in 2022.
A few years ago, 7/217 was crazy talk.
Personally, I wouldn’t do it.
7/217 is still crazy talk for a pitcher 🙂
Bob Bailey was signed out of HS by the Bucs for $100,000 in 1961 .i think that he was the first “Bonus Baby”. Armageddon was at hand.
Giants have the leverage. Any extension should reflect that the Giants have 3 more years of control. Obviously don’t want to alienate your ace, but his agent understands their negotiating position is substantially compromised. Can’t imagine the Giants guarantee anything more than through 2022 (i.e. an additional 3 years on top of his current deal). He is NOT going to get Price numbers given that the Giants have 3 more years of control.
They will go seven on the extensions, buying out the 3 option years remaining and then four new ones.
Yes I do remember where I was 27 years ago today, at 5:15 PM PDT. I remember being heartbroken that our wonderful 1989 season and our “Baysball” World Series were suddenly shattered by major catastrophe. Shattered, I was.
What I remember most, though? The resiliency and inner strength of our team, our fans…us. I remember 10 days later the Old Gray Lady Candlestick Park was ready to host a WS game, having somehow withstood a massive attack on its foundation.
Furthermore, the spirit of strength carried over to the 49ers, who powered their way to a 14-2 (IIRC) season. I remember great Niners games that fall/winter as they completed their team of the decade statement.
What I remember most is admiring from afar the indomitable and indefatigable spirit and strength of the people of the Bay Area and Central California. Even though we were in Ohio, we felt you. All in all, 1989 was a pretty good year.
In less than four years the 49ers have gone from the Super Bowl to arguably the NFL’s worst franchise. Setting aside the fan’s angst–and their ancillary revenue–the NFL is big business for 32 Titans of industry. Well, 31 plus Jed York.
The fish stinks from the head down, and it gets worse every week. Won’t be surprised if the NFL comes down hard on this mess.
NFL come down hard for what reason? The NFL basically prints money and the 9ers, while a crap organization, actually make a ton of money themselves for the team and the league. Blame the stupid fans, media and corporate partners that feed the 49er monster.
No reason for the team to try to improve the play on the field and the roster if the stadium basically sells out all the time and they sell a ton of merch.
You have to come up with more than “stinking” to suggest the league will intervene, come up with something tangible and intelligent. If not it just comes off as a childish rant with no plan in place.
Dude….so, I think that the way you go for jugulars over perceived racism that you despise Trump. But you sure talk like him. Relax. Discuss like a rational human being.
They won’t…sadly, there are more than one clueless owner. They didn’t come down hard on those idiotic Davis years. Why would they come down on an owner that is part of what Goddell considers the Young Guard?
The issue is he has stuck with a terrible GM…that’s dumb, but not punishable.
Well…the way Jeb hooked his wagon up to this GM…he should be punished. 🙂
I honestly think the 49ers are going to become the Cleveland Browns of the West. High draft picks galore (after losing seasons), but can’t win if their lives depended on it. Chip will be around for another season…they’ll fire him…then realize (again) that no one of legitimacy will want to work for Jeb.
Fans don’t have to show up, because they priced the stadium in such a way that they profit regardless if the ticket holding masses stay away. If I was a fan that had Harbaugh’s name (and successes) pimped at me during the time I bought these season tickets…I would be beyond ticked and would look at ways to litigate my way out of my contract (with my PSL fees returned). It may not be successful, but I would definitely look into it.
Once a York, always a York.
The shameless way they trotted out Eddie and acted like they were going to spend like the old days only to cut off the checkbook and slink back into the hole and be $60M under the cap as soon as they got their stadium is deplorable. And to think poor Jed even made it so on his side of the stadium he doesn’t even have to intermingle with the plebians…….
and I think Eddie showed how he feels about things when he didn’t even mention Jeb in his HOF speech. Many others nieces, nephews, etc. were mentioned, but the Yorks got “My sister, Dinese, and her family…”
I missed that. EPIC diss….
Who doesn’t long for the days when the team was run by a crook and a mob lawyer?
They won didn’t they?
No salary cap then..You are on another bad roll today.
Today? I thought it had beern a couple of months at least. At least that’s what the old lady keeps telling me.
Interesting story on Adrian Gonzalez political perspective. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/dodgers/2016/10/17/los-angeles-dodgers-adrian-gonzalez-donald-trump-hotel-chicago/92274476/
He’s always been one of my guys. #1 overall pick, 4 Gold Gloves, lots of RBIs…
http://friarsonbase.com/files/2014/11/agon.jpg
The anti-Kaepernick. Adrian Gonzalez is a player who’s play on the field demands respect, I think. He put the wood to the Cubs last night in Kershaw’s 2-hit gem.
Lots of less-than-smart-stuff comes out of his mouth, like in 2014…(regarding the Giants) “We were the better team. We won the division”. This was *after* the Giants beat the Royals. A few other knucklehead moves this year; which made his time with Boston pop up.
He used to be the only Dodger regular I would swap for the Giants. Not anymore.
I’d argue maybe the Dodgers were the better team in 2014, just not in October.
It just sounded like stupid sour grapes. He easily could have said they won the division, set themselves up to do well in the playoffs, but the Giants played better in October. He thought they had the better team, but the playoffs are when things truly count.
Better is a poor term I think. Like the A’s, in 2014 the Dodgers didn’t take note of short series pitching leverage against them. The A’s thought sweeping the Astros meant something, the Dodgers beat up on the Snakes or Rockies as I recall. But regardless, we didn’t have Puig in the clubhouse.
you wouldn’t swap Seager ? You’re nuts. Hell I’d take Pederson right now.
yes I am 🙂
The position for position thought process I mentioned happened before Seager started playing. This said, I’m still sticking with Crawford. Better defender and his more RBIs. Seager still may be adjusted to by pitching…we’ll see.
I know I’m probably in the minority, but Crawford is…in my opinion…the best SS in Giants history and I would keep him.
I love Crawford, but lets be real, at his level and production, I have to take him.
Crawford is hitting those seasons for a SS that he may start a decline pretty soon. I think he is great too but you just have to be realistic.
LOL ” may be adjusted to pitching” is such a lame excuse on this blog to detract opposing players. Like the Giants players are immune to the same thing? LOL
…and once again you are putting thing in people’s mouths and being argumentative for the sake of just doing so.
I like Crawford over Seager. You don’t have to agree. It’s my opinion…just like you have an opinion that you’d take Seager. Just acknowledge the opinion and move on.
“May be adjusted to by pitching” is used by folks…because it happens all the time in MLB! Look at Joc Pederson of the Dodgers. I never ever once said Giants players weren’t immune to it…in fact that was mentioned more than once on GE as a concern about Duffy. But if you want to think…in your own little world…that Giants fans use it as a way to dog opposing players, go ahead.
Just Efrain being Efrain…
good comeback! point taken
Another side of this guy:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/848985db5f4a186e1ba5a2ed9486a1bc52f8ab95064c3c35389466ece6a6f141.jpg
He married a witch? That explains…. :-))
Was at a bar Saturday night and we won me some drinks in the top of the 8th. I predicted a single to the right or left of the SS. He is so consistent. Anyway called the shot and won the shot. Thanks AGon. Also called the winner but one inning longer than it took.
You guys, it’s actually T. Swift’s fault we lost: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/maybe-its-taylor-swifts-fault-the-giants-lost-to-the-cubs-173247349.html?hl=1&noRedirect=1
I knew that…
Cant believe that stork messed us up
How was SLO, btw? Heard the game was sold out. No one got in trouble for throwing bottles?
It appears they finished to contents prior!
Sloppy game in bad weather…but, the press box had the Cubs/Dodgers on and I was able to multi-task…
Very Funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU
I think Bum should be as ridiculously overpaid on his extension for services gloriously rendered as as he has been currently ridiculously underpaid. Also the new contract should guarantee a statue. An equestrian statue. Boom.
Gilded with diamonds for eyes. Pow!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9MYrC-b5OI
Nobody Loves Me But My Mother”
Probably was mentioned quite a bit at the time last night, but just for the record Baez is now 1-3 (and *barely* getting that 1) when thinking he’s hit a HR at home in the 2016 playoffs. He hopped out of the box last night like he knew it was gone…except it didn’t even make the warning track. Maybe he doesn’t have as much power as he thinks he has?
He’s got elite bat speed, so there is that. He may be a poor estimator of launch angle and backspin. He’ll have to work on that part of his game. The rest is lookin’ pretty good.
Maybe he’s sacrificed a little power in cutting his K rate in half? Or maybe it’s the October night air? I was just amazed at his reaction to watch it fall well short. The hitter should have a better feel for whether he got it than that, especially when hitting at home.
Power at Wrigley has been the death of the Cubs in years past. It’s illusive, as we discovered. Contact hitting works everywhere, all the time. Even Rizzo shortens up on strike two.
Everything has been the “death of the Cubs.” They’ve been one of the least successful franchises in baseball history. I don’t think they are built entirely on power. But in these playoffs Rizzo and Russell in particular have killed them. My point is only that a hitter, especially at home, should have a better feel for when he “gets one.” Baez clearly has no feel for that as evidenced multiple times in the last week plus, including last night when he couldn’t even reach the track. Until you have a good feel for whether you “got it” or not then run out of the damn box.
Kershaw thought it was gone, Roberts thought it was gone, the announcers thought it was gone,,,everybody thought it was gone.
So I’ll feed Footy here.
What happens if the 3 big free agent closers are all retained during the exclusivity windows? Which player do you as a GM try to pry away via trade? Please be realistic or as much as you can be. I don’t want any Eugenio Velez for Mike Trout suggestions, but hopefully an intelligent discourse on which closers could be available in a trade.
Five bonus points to anyone that can come up with something reasonable before Ryan highjacks this thread……
Ehire Adrianza! The new Velez
Ehire has never looked that clueless running the bases. Duck Eugenio, DUCK!!!!
guess I’ll have to address this on the new post – will it be Surf Maui Part Three?
make that IV !
Wade Davis comes to mind.
Ken Giles with the Astros.
Vizcaino with the Bravos.
— Any of these guys would be pricey. If I’m the Royals dangling Davis, I’m asking Beede and Arroyo. And then Evans balks, and then the runner comes home from third…
David Robertson, White Sox?
Would you pull the trigger on Davis for Beede AND Arroyo?
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