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TotalFan62
This game was one of the most memorable games played in the 40-year history of the Giants at Candlestick. It featured the Atlanta Braves vs. our Giants on September 14, 1986. I have a VHS tape of this game in my sports memorabilia collection, and I have watched this game many times.
The 1986 season had been a very good one for our Giants. Coming off a 100-loss 1985 season and what I believe to be the worst-ever SF Giants team, they had battled to stay in contention into early September. It was Will Clark, Robby Thompson, Jose Uribe, Chris Brown—You Gotta Like These Kids! It was redemption for a group of veteran players who did not deserve to spend their prime years playing for poor teams. It was one shining season for Mike Krukow, who won his 20th game on the last day of the season and who along with two teammates (Brown and Chili Davis) made the all-star team. It was the clutch pinch-hitting by Joel Youngblood and Harry Spilman, and it was Humm-Baby Roger Craig and his split-finger focused pitching staff that made that year so memorable.
1986 was also a great year for my wife Debbie and me. Debbie got into Giants baseball because of me, but when she did she really got into it. We lived in Southern California from 1977-1986, and we went to every Giants/Dodgers game at Dodger Stadium in 1986. We decided to expand our game plan to include at least two of the series in San Diego, and at least three drives up to San Francisco to watch the Giants at Candlestick. I knew the Giants Clubhouse Manager Mike Murphy through a business associate, and he left us tickets for all of our “road games”.
Early in the season we decided to spend our summer vacation with the Giants. We planned a road trip to Chicago and St. Louis, and had a great time during a seven-game trip. Saturday night in Chicago, having dinner with Vida Blue, Mike Murphy, Chili Davis, and David Lowenstein (clubhouse guy, Al Rosen’s stepson)—good times and good memories, for sure. The second game of the Cardinals series included a beanball battle. We ended up in a bar in the Giants hotel, watching the highlights on SportsCenter with many of the players. All in all we attended 35 games in five cities that year, and had a great time doing it.
The 1986 season had some down spots as well. The Giants sustained painful losing streaks earlier in the season, and lost Will Clark and Jeffrey Leonard for extended periods due to injury. Even though they had made tremendous strides forward, the team was not yet strong enough to win the NL West. Houston won it pulling away in September. During the 1985 season, I was fortunate to be in the clubhouse in August, prior to a meaningless game vs. the Braves. Krukow was the starter that day, he was alone in the clubhouse, and he was willing to talk a bit. He was very candid: “we’re only one or two players away from contention. One or two additions and one or two deletions”. Rosen made those moves, Roger Craig brought renewed vigor and optimism, and we had a contender.
The last month of the season was exhausting. The players knew they weren’t going to overtake Houston, guys were going down due to injury and fatigue, and some of the call-ups and bench guys started to get more playing time. Chris Brown announced he was out for the year due to a mystery shoulder ailment. The Giants wanted to give Bob Brenly more at-bats, but they also needed to find out what they had in Bob Melvin. Brenly filled in for Brown at third base, and played some first base as well. on that fateful Sunday afternoon game Brenly started at third batting 6th in the lineup. It just so happened that the 49ers were playing the Rams that day, and the game was televised locally. Since the Giants were playing the Braves—and at that time every Braves game was televised on WTBS—we placed two TVs side-by-side in our living room and watched both games simultaneously.
This was indeed a very strange yet very memorable game. Brenly initially played 3B when he signed out of Ohio University, but was soon moved behind the plate where he was a better fit. At this point in his career he could give the team 5-6 decent innings at third, but would usually be replaced for defense at the end of games.
The game progressed uneventfully until that fateful top of the fourth. The first batter Bob Horner hit a hard ground ball right at BB, and he booted it. Error #1. After a Ken Griffey Sr. single and a Rafael Ramirez sacrifice, Ozzie Virgil Jr was walked intentionally to load the bases. Glen Hubbard then hit a hard ground ball one step to Brenly’s left: he started to go for the DP, but dropped it. He picked it up, saw the runner heading for home, and threw the ball to the backstop. Two errors on one play, two runs score. The next batter was the pitcher Charlie Puleo, who hit a bullet right at Brenly’s head. He got the glove up, but it deflected into LF for an RBI single. Another hit and a productive out produced the fourth run of the inning—all unearned. Dale Murphy then hit another grounder right at Brenly, and of course he booted it, for his fourth error of the inning. Horner, batting for the second time in the inning, flied out to mercifully end the inning.
This was the end of a long, losing season for the Braves. They finished last in the NL West, a half-game behind the Dodgers (snicker). Their four-man radio-TV announcing team consisted of Skip Caray, Pete Van Wieren, John Sterling and Ernie Johnson Sr. Skip and Pete were away for the weekend doing college football games, so Eddie Matthews joined John and Ernie for the weekend. Ernie did the first half on TV while John did radio, then they switched after the top of the fifth. Matthews was a Hall of Fame player but had no broadcast experience. At one point during Brenly’s nightmare inning, Matthews said “I’m glad it’s him and not me”. Later in the game—after Brenly had been moved to catcher—Eddie said “hit it to Brenly at third, and you’ll reach”. That was TBS baseball in those days. Ernie Johnson was old-school big time. He truly felt sorry for Brenly, having taken his share of lumps while pitching in MLB from 1950-1959, all but one year for the Boston/Milwaukee Braves.
Brenly led off the bottom of the fifth with a solo HR, and John Sterling immediately gave him props for not letting the nightmare top of the fourth affect his hitting. Melvin followed with another homer to trim the lead to 4-2. The game progressed uneventfully to the top of the seventh. Murphy led off and hit a harmless pop-up behind second. Thompson called it, had it all the way, until the excitable Will Clark came running over, yelling “I got it” and cutting in front of Thompson to make the catch. Thompson said something to Will (like stay out of my way), and went back to his position. After Horner flied to left for the second out, Robby booted an easy grounder right at him. No doubt his concentration was affected by the Clark play. Instead of the third out, the Braves had a runner on first. Ramirez, the next hitter, homered for two unearned runs, and the inning ended with the Giants trailing 6-2.
Bottom of the seventh began with groundouts by Jose Uribe and pinch-hitter Mike Woodard. At this point in the game, the baseball spirits reared up to prove they do indeed exist. Clark hit a grounder right at Ramirez at SS…and he booted it. Thompson walked, Mike Aldrete singled, Candy Maldonado hit a two-run double, and Chili Davis walked to load the bases for Brenly, with the Giants down 6-4. Brenly hit a solid line drive over Ramirez’ head for a game-tying two-run single. Lancelotti batted for Melvin and struck out to end the inning, but we had a brand new ballgame.
As the eighth inning began, it was overtime at the Big A, Niners and Rams tied at 13. Rams were driving down the field, and Mike Lansford kicked a game-winning FG as the Braves batted in the top of the eighth. Now our total focus was on the Giants, because we did not want to suffer two losses in one afternoon.
Scott Garrelts came in and pitched two scoreless innings to take the Giants to the bottom of the ninth tied at 6-6. Maldonado grounded out and Chili flied out, bringing Brenly to the plate with two outs and Paul Assenmacher on the mound. A junkballer supreme, Assenmacher’s first three pitches were close but all out of the strike zone with Brenly taking them for a 3-0 count. He took the automatic strike one fastball, then watched a slow curve nip the inside corner for a called strike two. He fouled off two additional off-speed pitches, forcing Assenmacher to go to something faster in order to get the out. Brenly put a good swing on an inside fastball and knew immediately it was gone. The tape-measure shot landed approximately 20 rows up in the left-field bleachers behind that open area between the chain link fence and the left field seats. Brenly threw his left arm and bat in the air and danced around the bases as the entire Giants team came to home plate to greet him. John Sterling gave a great call, honoring Brenly for a game-winning HR and for hanging tough and persevering through his defensive struggles. I’ll never forget this game—it was truly one of the most memorable Giants games ever played at Candlestick Park.
Just two weeks later the Giants celebrated Fan Appreciation Day with a thrilling 16-inning come from behind win vs. the Dodgers. That was the game in which 52 players made an appearance, a game that ended with Maldonado at 3B, Youngblood at SS, Spilman at 2B and a pitcher rotating between LF and RF (depending on who was hitting). Greg Minton had had an absolutely awful year, the last of the four-year deal he signed after his peak season of 1982. The fans were all over him that year, but he pitched five strong innings that day, doubled with two outs in the 16th, and scored the winning run on a rocket single off the bat of…Bob Brenly. That game is #1 on my list of Giants/Dodgers classic games, it is top five on my all-time ‘Stick games, and was a fitting end to the home season.
The last game of the year was in Dodger Stadium, and as noted earlier Mike Krukow won his 20th game as Candy Maldonado hit a grand slam to seal the win. We were there to root on our boys and finish the year in style. Just another of many great memories from an outstanding 1986 season.
Today is the last day to accept Qualifying Offers, so that will pretty much be your MLB news all day. Deadline ends at 5:00pm ET.
Thanks for the update, KIR. I was hoping something would happen for the Giants today. Guess not.
Melancon can’t be qualified, so who knows??? …and I think everyone and their brother know Jansen isn’t accepting a qualifying offer, so today is just an artificial road bump for him.
As I understand it, this is awards week:
ROY on Monday (Cory Seager, Kenta Maeda, Trea Turner)
Manager on Tuesday (Baker, Maddon, Roberts)
Cy Young on Wednesday (Hendricks, Scherzer, Lester)
MVP on Thursday (Bryant, Murphy, Seager)
with gold glove/silver slugger announced last week. I hate to say anything nice about a Dodger, but Roberts did a nifty job with his oft-injured team, and should win it.
Seager
Roberts
Scherzer
Bryant
There, I’m spent.
Bad manners I have.
Good job, TF62! The thing I remember most about this game (besides the obvious), was the feeling how Brenly was being a good teammate by even playing 3rd. It was hard to remember that at times with each error, but you can tell how much his guys respected him…even today…whenever Kruk, Kuip, and Will Clark talk about him.
Good morning all! Very good story TF62. I remember that season well; although I was stationed in Germany at the time. My mom would send me a week of the sports section on a weekly basis so I could keep up with the Giants. Good times.
94 days until pitchers and catchers report.
Thanks TF … great list of players giving it their best in that 56-year-drought. Some good sparks in ’87 and ’89 would come from these guys but the drought would prevail. Good jpb taking us back in time.
And good to hear a Humm Baby.
Ken Rosenthal argues that the new CBA needs to do away with direct draft-pick compensation:
“As the players and owners continue to negotiate the collective-bargaining agreement, the inequities created by the qualifying offer remain infuriating.
Kenley Jansen received a qualifying offer. Fellow free-agent closers Aroldis Chapman and Mark Melancon did not, only because they were traded in the middle of the season.
Mark Trumbo received a qualifying offer. Fellow sluggers Mike Napoli and Kendrys Morales did not, only because they played for lower-revenue clubs that feared paying a player $17.2 million for one year.”
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/qualifying-offer-system-direct-draft-pick-compensation-needs-to-change-111416
So many inequities in America !!! It’s only fair that baseball has its share.
Beware, beware dear Scout. We are https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/768c468dba9d2e1fe37a66bfc35433544f765f99af4fc3b2834225fc400cb37b.jpg surrounded by the Donalds.
The irony seems to be that the qualifying offer system was supposed to provide equity somehow.
“wrong”
Worst agreement in the history of baseball.
Well, I don’t know if it’s the worse but it’s pretty bad. Unfair to players and unfair to teams.
Players ratified. So it’s a learning process, ripe for amendment. Just as any major agreement should be over time as things change and lessons are learned over course of experiment.
I think Ken is right. It’s turned out to be very unfair to some players.
He’s right. I’m surprised the very powerful MLBPA ever agreed to it.
Wonder if there is a Hensley – Kenley connection that would favor the Giants? They do share the 2013 WBC team as well as similar backgrounds.
I am a believer in that aspect of the ClubhouseFactor™ … “Former relatiosnhip bewteen a coach and a player.” I think it helped Peavy come through in 2014.
Yes. Sprachan zee Dutch!
Just the pet for you. http://www.shepherds-rest.com/duman/
That would be bitchin’. When we are older, we might switch to sheep or goats and it would be nice to have a flock guard dog.
We learned the hard way not to take our retrieving dog to the same dog park as a herding dog. She wants to retrieve her ball or her Frisbee. She’s VERY COMMITTED to that. The herding dog wants to, well, herd her. She got bit on the butt by an Australian shepherd one time at our neighborhood dog park–$100 at the vet to get her stitched up!
A 170 pounds of security. Your coyote issues are over. Just think, maybe chickens again! And with their propensity to dig a field burrow to watch from, free plowing. Maybe you have artisan goat cheese in your future.
I can get down on all fours …
Zie. Deutsch. Ignoramus
I decline to comment.
Quia enim commentare non voluis?
Because he said it all, between the lines.
Roger. (Not the engineer).
Quod ignorandum est?
Est Quod Est
Monsieur de La Palice couldn’t answer better.
You can quote me.
Da, gospod gospodar !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHjJnFqs-s
jansen was a tall catcher!
I say Jansen stays, he goes back with the Dodgers and they believed in him in the transition from catcher. It’s not like he is on the Padres, always last in the division. He is on a team that has won 4 straight division titles and seems to like it there.
I think you are right and for the good of baseball (in general, not for the Giants) I hope he stays with LA. I bet Dave Roberts would be part of KJ’s desire to stay there.
That said, Mullens has extra tix for Disneyland while he is down there and a private jet lined up for Monterey and then a helicopter to tour the nine Bay Area counties. [Stay off the roads].
By the way Mr. Non-Believer:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/49ers-name-tom-gamble-assistant-general-manager
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/eagles/Chip-Kellys-49ers-give-Tom-Gamble-a-promotion.html
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/27/what-happens-when-and-if-the-49ers-fire-trent-baalke-a-few-preliminary-names-tom-gamble-louis-riddick-david-shaw-and-scenarios-to-consider/
I would check the dates buddy, all from the summer, It’s now the Fall and 10 games into the season many things have changed.
It means squat Gamble was promoted if 1) Kelly is considering a leap back to college or 2) the Niners get rid of Baalke.
Effie, so you are saying that I sent you those links without knowing the dates on each piece? LOL what do you take me for. Of course I knew but it is very very common for a head coach’s confidant that then becomes part of a new organization to be next in line especially if the owner’s ear is being bent. Trent’s draft record is bad. Scot McCloughan was THE boss when Baalke was elevated to the top spot after McCloughan threw a drunken binge at a team Christmas party. Everything will align for Gamble to be the next GM. My former roommate is in the building at 4949 daily and he said he would not be surprised if Baalke was gone after this season.
http://www.bayareastar.org/shining-star
Great Job JG_TF62!
That was bitchin’ Dude!
great read TF..thank you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xlo1NvEdAw
I am wondering why Melancon isn’t signed already? I mean c’mon Bobby. Pull the trigger…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRQnJyP77tY
Because he might have a Colorado Rocky Mountain High…
Hey, it’s legal here now, and ours is better….
IMO, this one fish he better net.
Great memories. Thanks for sharing them.
Jeremy Hellickson took the qualifying offer from the Phils.
I guess that’s called sticking it to the man.
$17.1 million. I think he made the right choice.
Sorry for the OT, but something, sometimes, is far more important than baseball.
Stephen K. Bannon appointed Chief Strategist and Senior Counselor for the White House. Discrimination, racism, sexism and homophobia are going to enter the Oval Room and camp there for the next four years. Good morning America.
Yes, all those who said we should “give Trump a chance”–I’d love to hear them defend this choice. Tell us again how Trump “didn’t mean” all those awful things he said to get elected.
Jared Kurshner, Trump’s son-in-law, asked how many of the West Wing staff would be staying on, not know that the vast majority of that staff will be leaving with Obama’s exit. Kushner is apparently, one of the major figures in the transition planning and staffig. We are truly in a new universe where ignorance and make believe are the watchwords of the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2MRTqzJug
I’m fresh out of meaningful music tropes. I just barely can find a sick kind of humor in this debacle. Trump came with an inch yesterday of saying he may have bit off more than he can chew. Apparently he is hoping to lean on Obama of all people in sorting out what the job description calls for.
To be frank, everything that I have seen since Tuesday has shown me he did not expect to win…. at ALL….. He needs to pick a real good Chief of Staff for this to have a chance. I thought he was going to go with Guiliani and if so then he would have a prayer. Right now, I don’t have the confidence to think this is going anywhere good.
Reince Priebus and Steve Bannon, cohosts of the clusterf**k to come.
God, I miss baseball…
Me too. It’s late autumn.
I miss Jimmy Carter. I was born shortly after he was elected, like days.
And I’m going to miss Obama.
I’m watching President Obama’s press conference right now.
I have gone around and around in arguments with my now deceased father, and many of my still living conservative friends over Jimmy Carter. For me he exemplifies the kind of person I would vote for over and over. He was an atomic engineer, submarine commander, lived his faith and a southern gentleman in every sense of the word. I miss days when we have people like that to vote for.
So you’ll be 40 years old in two months. Hercule at work here.
This is true and actually HC lost it – he did not win it
HC got 300,000 votes more than The Duck.
OK how about HC (quote/unquote) “lost” it – DT did not “win it”.
The electoral college etc is there for a reason….
A very strange kind of “democracy”. He who gets less votes wins. Crazy.
Given the votes still being counted, and where they’re from, the final total will be between 2-3 million. Somehow, I don’t feel better.
Popcorn? It won’t be that high.
I just hope nobody tells Trump that Robert F. Kennedy, JFK’s Attorney General, was also JFK’s brother. If he gets wind that family members have served on previous President’s cabinets we may well see Ivanka as Secretary of the Treasury and Erik as Secretary of the Interior
…and I could actually think of worse possibilities (see Palin, Sarah)
Presidents cannot appoint family members to cabinet positions. This has been Federal Law since 1967.
Oval Office. The sky isn’t falling. Even if Trump wanted to do whatever it is you fear most, there are two other branches of government. There are check and balances. There are also practicalities that stand in the way. Does anyone really think that 10,000,000 people can be deported? Try breathing into a paper bag while you wait to see what actually happens
It’s the room that’s oval. The office is the use of the room. This is for precision. For check and balances evidently you don’t know that’s it’s the first time for decades that the GOP will control the Presidency, and BOTH the Chambers of the Congress. For the deportation it was YOUR president who said yesterday that he is willing to deport 3,000,000 people. Don’t you believe the words of YOUR president? Are you thinking that YOUR president may be untrustworthy perhaps?
Greetings from the Other Side of The Pond.
Have fun with Donald Duck.
Are you in Italy?
Uh, oh. Sherlock at work once again.
Elementary, my dear Watson 😉
You’re not even an American and you’re still about to faint? Really? Man or woman up, just a bit.
That Donald got to have his finger on a trigger that can detonate some MEGATONS. The whole world is scared, not only me.
You haven’t answered my questions. I repeat: “Don’t you believe the words of YOUR president? Are you thinking that YOUR president may be untrustworthy perhaps?”. You fled changing arguments. and trying to insult me. You failed. NOTHING told by a nullity like you can hurt me. Try it again, Malloy. Good luck.
Why would anyone ever be hurt by something said on a blog? Take a deep breath and pet your cat. You’re going to be fine.
You are wrong as usual. Never had a cat, my dear nullity. Try it again, Malloy the Failed.
You promised you were leaving. What kind of world is this where our Italian friends are no more believable than Trump?
I’m not the POTUS, my dear (?) failed lawyer Malloy. Your arguments show your intellectual and moral failure. Try harder and harder. LOL.
That’s not much of a “defense” of Trump picking Bannon. [And before you say it, I know you didn’t vote for Trump and it’s not your job to defend him.] But “maybe it won’t be so awful because there are checks and balances”? That’s–not much reassurance.
I don’t know if the sky is/will be falling, either. But I do think it’s fair to say that Trump’s selection of Bannon proves that his 5 minutes of rhetoric after the election about being “president for all Americans” was just that–talk. If he’d wanted to actually heal wounds, reduce fear, or unite the country, he wouldn’t have made that choice. I can only conclude that he has no interest in doing any of those things, and why should he? He won.
I wonder what folks on the right would have said if Obama had picked Shaun King for the same position after one of his elections? They would have screamed “Race baiting! Divisive!” Etc. This is no different.
[All that said, I can’t really imagine that there’s anyone who could unite this polarized country right now. So it’s not necessarily a knock on Trump to say he can’t/won’t.]
Are your non citizen students concerned. I read this AM that there has been a precipitous decline in Chinese and Arabic student applications since Trumps election. Who knows why.
Yes, they’re concerned. Nov. 30 is the application deadline for UC, and it will be very interesting to see if there’s a big drop in international student applications. In fact, we’ve been told to put our work on next year’s schedule and budget on hold for a few weeks until we see what the fallout is. (Remember Chancellor Katehi and the pepper spray incident in 2011? That was just days before the Nov. 30 deadline, and it definitely reduced applications to UCD.)
On the one hand, they have no real reason to be concerned–they’re on student visas, they pay big bucks, and no one’s going to worry about them being here. On the other hand, when you read about hundreds of hate crimes around the country against nonwhites, I can appreciate why they’d feel less safe. People who would harass or assault Asians or Middle Easterners aren’t going to ask for their student visas first.
That said, the universities in China are maxed out, and all those kids have to go somewhere, and there aren’t that many spots in the UK or Canada or Downunder. So we’ll see.
I’ve got a good friend who’s father and mother are both retired professors at Tsinghua University outside Beijing. She would agree with you. I think she went to Berkley or Stanford back in the 90’s. I’d agree as well, hate crimes against Asians seem to be on the rise. The care and housing of Asian students is a cottage industry here in Davis. I couldn’t believe white nationalist waving confederate flags in Petaluma last week. Amy G, what will she say.
Did you read about the Chinese restaurant downtown, Hunan, that’s created a separate “real Chinese” menu for the international students?—apparently they can’t stand Americanized Chinese food, so it’s good business to offer a more authentic version.
We spent a summer in China back in the 80s (this was before my sesame allergy, which developed years later), and we definitely found that Chinese food in China was nothing like what we were used to in California! Hong Kong was a bit closer, at least then.
They should also create a separate “real Italian” menu in the “so-called” Italian restaurants. Spaghetti with meatballs? You’ll never be able to find this dish in Italy. In Germany or in the U.K. perhaps.
I’ve been to Italy and eaten real Italian food, and you’re right; there are a lot of poor imitations in the U.S. However, there are some very good authentic ones, too, usually owned and operated by Italian families. I’d say the difference between Chinese “cuisines” is much more vast.
My sister and her husband own property in Tuscany and spend a lot of time in Italy (in fact, they were just there), and I usually trust their recommendations about where to eat in Northern California.
May I ask in which part of Tuscany? Chianti? Val d’Orcia near Pienza? Montalcino? Pisa? Maremma? Bolgheri? Lots of nice landscapes down there. And wineyards of course.
So this is where they stayed on their most recent trip: https://www.facebook.com/montagnaverde/ Maybe that will mean something to you?
Their house is being rebuilt and they can’t stay there yet, but this lodging is reasonably nearby. Here are a couple of photos from their property. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0529bdcd49745602e7312eedadf68f4fef302f0c86e97413aecb5b74d6a4edc9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/84c2afb0b7333252bf23467671a3fc3ff38320fe96c85ff596d3ddb3617f3ac6.jpg
That’s Lunigiana, a zone of northern Tuscany, in the Apennines mountain, Very beautiful place. I use to go often shopping just beyond that ridge which is the border with Emilia region, in the Val Taro valley. You see, Parmesan cheese and Parma ham. We call it the Food Valley of Italy.
Yes, that’s it. Lunigiana. She’s mentioned that.
Have a good night Lefty. 3 am in the morning here and I’m falling asleep on my Mac. See you.
Not all authentic Italian food is for my liking. I helped cook a Biroldo feed over the weekend. After 30 plus years I still can not eat this kind of blood sausage. But for the rest, my uncle cooks enough Northern Italian food that is some of the best. So I don’t go out for Italian food.
Perhaps you will be happy to know that selling blood sausages is strictly forbidden in Italy, now.
To be honest I find that hard to believe. How long as that been in effect?
About 20 years. After the spreading of BSE disease in Europe.
I’m going to confirm this with my friends in Genova overnight. If that is still the case, I thank you for you have given me a little factoid nugget I can use in the next 4 feeds I am scheduled to help. I’m always on the hunt for good “needles” with my friends.
I don’t know anything about this Biroldo, but in my zone (Veneto region) the traditional sausage made of pork blood called “sanguinaccio” can’t be sold. You can find it on the sly, if you like it (and it’s not my case), at some unscrupolous butchers’. They risk high financial penalties and, in the worst scenario, the permament closing of their shops.
I think sounds the same. Pork blood, milk, cream, pine nuts, ground tongue, and lots of spices. This is the Genovese version I am guessing.
Years ago, I used to go to a Chinese restaurant in Houston with a couple of Chinese co-workers. They got the Anglo menu, turned to the host and asked for the real menu. Out comes this menu with maybe a 100 items on it. I had the same experience here in SF when I went to Dim Sum with some Chinese friends visiting from Chicago. Entirely different cart comes to the table.
Do you live in Davis, CA?
Yes.
Lots of smart people walking about there…
Then why instill terror in a population you can’t meaningfully effect?
Because he is from the worst kind of tribe living on this speck of dust called planet Earth: the tribe of STUPIDS.
Upon that we can agree. Truthfully, it seems open season on law officers in the skin head ranks now. You should wear your vest and keep your eyes open, all kidding aside. STUPID can kill you, in my experience. You, my friend, are about to be caught between a rock and a hard place. Stay safe.
I’m a European, I’m safe. I worry for you all living in the USA.
LOL. I meant it for TO. My mistake. I sympathize with his predicament. He’s, IMO, naive about what the next 4 year hold. But then, given his job, ….
Lots of range practice is in order.
“between a rock and a hard place” – It’s a nice metaphor. You can use also “tra l’incudine ed il martello” = between the anvil and the hammer.
Well that tribe just won the election. Not so stupid.
Evidently you don’t realize the “magnitudo” of stupidity you reached with your sentence. Up yours, you are blocked.
I read a headline early this morning about how Bannon is the id, and Preibus is the super-ego. I immediately thought: Since Donald Trump is an id, Reince’s superego will need to be super x2.
“id”
In Freudian theory, the division of the psyche that is totally unconscious and serves as the source of instinctual impulses and demands for immediate satisfaction of primitive needs.
Are you a psyco doctor, dgg?
Forgive me, but, well… DUHHH
Urban Dictionary. DUHHH =To imply someones stupidity over a question asked.
So, would you kindly like to point to the question I would have asked? But If you think that the stupidity is related to that appointment I can agree.
No (real) offense intended there, 106th. Your post seemed to me to contain a hint of incredulousness that discrimination, racism, sexism and homophobia would be elements of the culture of the forthcoming administration when discrimination, racism, sexism and homophobia were precisely the very elements that appealed to the 47.8% of the electorate that cast their ballots for Herr Drumpf. They made no bones nor secrets about it. Daily, for the past year and a half these elements were loudly and proudly proclaimed. Anybody not hearing it simply wasn’t listening, so, yeah…DUHH! Trump’s supporters will rationalize their votes every way till Sunday, but bottom line that is precisely what they voted for. Bottom line that is what we elected. Bottom line this is how we now define ourselves to the earth.
I’m not sure how many here watched PBS News Hour, but Gwen Ifill, a PBS journalist there for years passed today.
Religously, a few years ago, only sporadically now. But I did see its beginning this past Friday, and was wondering why she wasn’t there on the Friday of election week. Sad news.
I think I grew up on MacNeil Lehrer. Ms. Ifill was a fixture there. Sad indeed.
How very sad. She was only 61.
I didn’t see the cause in the USA Today notice.
Cancer. She was in Hospice Care. I haven’t read what kind of cancer.
Sad. She did good while she was among us. She always reminded me of Barbara Jordan for some reason.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/gwen-ifill-journalist-who-became-staple-of-public-affairs-tv-shows-dies-at-61/2016/11/14/2ae4c106-aa91-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_ifill-230pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Something dramatically aggressive.
I’m sad again today. But we’ll fight on – do it for Gwen!
uterine cancer. poor thing, only 61. rest peacefully, gwen.
She was SO very good!
WHAT?!?
That’s a total shocker! Bless her for her talents and hard work.
That was some great stuff, TF! Thanks for sharing. So often, we recall only the most basic highlights and forget all the other stuff that was going on. You gave us setup, context, what else was going on that day, announcers, and all kinds of cool details. Really fun.
Daily aphorism.
“We must plan for freedom, and not only for security, if for no other reason than that only freedom can make security secure.”
Karl R. Popper – The Open Society and Its Enemies, Vol. 2, Ch. 21 “An Evaluation of the Prophecy”.
send pictures of a hike to Dolomites for us please. Beautiful country. a hike is good for all.
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Jeff Passan 2hr ago:
There is increasing sentiment coming out of CBA negotiations that the qualifying-offer system, as we know it, is dying as of next year.
Good.
Neil Walker accepted QO, so maybe a new CBA (and no QO) is in some player’s minds. That and $17.2M will help ease the pain.
Walker and Hellickson are the only two who accepted. I’d wondered if the Dodgers might go after Walker, having traded Kendrick.
they must have somebody they’re going to get. somebody good. maybe cano.
I remember you mentioning the Dodgers and Walker. I’m just wondering if he thought “1 more year in NY at $17M+. then much more freedom to move next off-season…”
Walker seems to be more of an everyday starter and Kendricks is heading in the other direction …
He’s the real deal.
…or maybe he accepted QO because he wanted to stay.
Neil Walker 16hr ago:
Happy to say I’m back in Orange and Blue for 2017!! Let’s go Mets! #unfinishedbusiness
Yay! The Giants 2017 Spring Training schedule is out. They open at “home” on Friday, February 24th vs. Reds. They play the Cubs the next day in Scottsdale. ST starting early due to the World Baseball Classic.
I saw that and just booked plane tickets (yay, Southwest points!) and a hotel for our trip, March 10-13. That little ritual always cheers me up no matter what’s going on.
Cool. We might go either February 25 to March 4, or March 18-25. Mrs. Crawnik wants to take in a Coyotes hockey game to boot.
Speaking of travel, have you kept abreast of the earthquake and tsunami on New Zealand’s South Island, including Christchurch. Weren’t you planning travel there?
We were there on the South Island exactly a year ago. No future trips planned at this point. We were in Queenstown, not Christchurch. We’d heard that Christchurch was about 70% destroyed in the earthquake a couple years ago. Rough times there.
Anyone have an opinion or know anything about Todd Glaesmann, a 26 year old minor league FA center fielder in the Diamondbacks system.
Yes, “scouted” him in Visalia a couple of years ago. He was man among boys, ball really jumped off his bat. “C” prospect, but there’s some plus to his game, a little reminiscent of Mac Williamson. Also more of corner outfielder, not much CF to his game, but he looks very athletic.
He’s played in CF this year and had the best defensive ‘stats’ in his AAA league. Also, he has very modest to low %K numbers.
I’m watching for the umpteenth time the 2014 NL WC game. Glorious times.
Baggs might be heading to France
“Going dark for a few weeks. (I’ll be back, I promise.) In the meantime, please follow @BANG_Sports for your Giants offseason news. Merci.”
OR to Canada.
His latest tweet indicates he’s there. “It is wonderful to see Parisians living life.” I had that privilege 2 years ago and couldn’t agree more.
He’ sitting in or writing courses at the Sorbonne.
Or eating oysters an drinking champagne in Saint-Germain-des-Prés.
Maybe.
I thought you left? How are the cats?
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My friend and his wife just arrived back in Austin yesterday from France.
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Who is care?
True
LOL! You took the words right out of my mouth!
The GE board might get up to double digit comments!!
Maybe the Rev Jackson and Scalabrine dust up has caused Scalabrine to lose his collective mind regarding Klay Thompson as:
Yet again, the two-time All-Star guard’s name surfaced in the NBA trade rumor mill — this time courtesy of former Warriors’ assistant coach Brian Scalabrine — but the talk was quickly shot down, if not outright mocked, by Golden State head coach Steve Kerr.
Slusser on Eric Byrnes vimeo flick https://twitter.com/Diamond2Rough/status/789900626675191808
Jansen and Turner both reject Dodger qualifying offer.
Even the polls got that one right 😉
There is WILD, VERY WILD speculation/rumors floating around the the Cubs are cogitating a trade for Mike Trout. The RUMOR is that a package of Kyle Schwarber, Javier Baez, Albert Almora, Jeimer Candelario, Mark Zagunis, Ian Happ and Miguel Monterois being bouncd around. Me, I suspect every one is just bored with no baseball to talk about.
Bingo. You had me at “cogitating”
I think it’s silly, but if the top of your order was Trout, Bryant, and Rizzo for the next 4 years minimum, maybe it’s not so silly.
Cogito, ergo sum. Et tu?
Facebook employees are in open revolt against Zuckerberg over his ‘fake news’ posture.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenkel/renegade-facebook-employees-form-task-force-to-battle-fake-n?utm_term=.jpy8WrnDN#.jpy8WrnDN
I never had an account on FB and never will. IMO FB is worst than $hit.
I don’t use Facebook either. They do however, seem in denial from what I read here.
Hopefully you don’t have Instagram or Twitter. The majority of the users are narcissists and those with low self-esteem who seek attention (not including legit news groups, IMO).
I’m thinking of starting Moooooooose News Network (MNN)
No social network for me. I’m an unrepentant individualist.
Like The Oracle?
I have Twitter but I don’t really tweet, except for the occasional reply. I use it for up-to-the-minute news (mostly on sports). It works great for that.
I’m speaking at a conference this weekend, and the organizers asked for my Twitter handle so they could promote me. I said “Nobody’s going to want to follow me on Twitter, trust me.” (They found my Twitter handle anyway.).
Agreed. All the social media is great if you know what you want to use it for.
Twitter® … Breaking news; good quotes for the day
Instagram® … Friends activities
Facebook® … Event news/invitations
DailyKiddo® … Family pictures
To “stay off of it” is like people ten years ago rejecting cell phones, texting and email.
bingo!! hold all cards..haak has a bingo
Once you’re born, you’re on the grid.
Wow, that article says that half of all adult Americans get their news from Facebook. That is hard to believe and if it’s true then it’should pathetic as well. I’ve never spent one minute on Facebook myself.
Sad, but, probably true.
Great post tf! I’ve read about this game from several different perspectives. One of the great stories in baseball history!
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Are you our friend from the Regione Veneto?
Sorry, but I just don’t understand what that “Are you are friend” of yours means.
Sure you do. It means: “Are you our friend from Italy?” Changing names is annoying and deceptive, in my opinion.
This is a complicated case.
How are you Sherlock? Hercule here.
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I agree, but sometimes changing becomes a must in order to drive away some nasty gadflies.
Your idiosyncratic syntax gave you away long ago.
I could write in four other languages, maybe five, but I highly doubt that most of you could understand. Doviđenja moja draga gospa gospodinja. = See you my dear lady.
Sorry, corrected.
I’m really gratified to be considered a friend by you. Cheers.
Grazie.
Prego.
for brother foots
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Hey, good morning. It’s been a good year seeing a couple of rock/blues legends. Beck in August and Mayall yesterday. Who’s next? Rod?
we’ve been seeing a few as well…chas musclewait, geo thorogood, robt earl keene, and lyle lovett. going to see john hiatt on sat..
How’d you like Thorogood?
Our older friends will be seeing Kris Kristofferson tonight at same venue.
Our friend Henry is a blues photographer. He has done some great work goes to blues festivals all the time with his wife in spite of their health woes ; and is published in a British blues magazine
thorogood was great. jumps around like a kid. still got it. unlike kris k, who lost his voice a long time ago
Shook hands with a legend last night. My wife surprised me with tickets to the John Mayall show in Fresno. For all you Sacramento area folks, he will be in Sacramento tonight. Check him out, he is a vital force on stage with the harmonica, the shoulder guitar, and he really rocks on the keyboard. He was out front at a table signing CDs or photos or whatever and I asked if I could shake his hand, then I told him that I know him best from his work on Wake Up Call, and that it sounded like they had a lot fun on that album. Oh yeah, he said, we always have fun. Then it was time for him to get up and go to the stage and put on a really good blues concert.
Here’s one of his classics followed by one that I got to know him from (with Coco Montoya):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANfqJk2rdNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP8wor7Jtls
https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/798527136319623170
Get this done, boom!
Span
Belt
Martinez
Posey
Pence
Panik
Crawford
Nunez
P
Eat the Giants wake, Dodgers.
Buy some health pills for Pence and Span, too.
Who do you think theyre giving up in such a scenario?
mac, and or parker for sure. some pitching i’d guess..
The hizzle.
It starts with Beede. The Giants premium trade chip. They would have their pick of Mac or Park.
Then that’s where the negotiation really takes place. Would want to avoid sending Arroyo, but might have to. If not, work with one from Andrew Suarez, Sam Coonrod, Chris Shaw, Bryan Reynolds. They might also be interested in a MLB bullpen piece like Strick or Osich. Clayton Blackburn could be on the table.
The Giants have enough chips in my estimation, hopefully both Arroyo and Beede not on table. But the price is expensive because once Martinez is on the table other teams with better farm systems may have easier time dropping two B prospects on the table.
Any trade that “starts with Beede” would be off my table.
He’s the only mid/frontline pitching prospect on the farm, so he’s #1 most desirable from farm, and if he’s not on table, Giants will have a difficult time partnering in any significant winter trades.
I get that, but I think the Giants are going to need Tyler Beede. Besides, I’d like to see Mac Williamson in Left Field in 2017. He seems to be a better fielder and a better base runner than Martinez.
martinez can seriously rake tho. my prob is he’s only signed thru ’17
My reservations about trading for Martinez include: who would we have to give up in return?, the one-year deal, and AT&T park factors.
Agreed. If Martinez weren’t a rental maybe I’d be more open-minded, but I don’t think the Giants should give up their top pitching prospect for an outfielder for one year, not when they have a bunch of outfielders coming up through the system. I’d love to have JD for one year, but not at that price.
Can you imagine if the Dodgers stepped in and acquired not only Martinez, but also Verlander?
Oh boy.
slow your heart rate
LMAO
How about Kinsler in Dodger Blue 😉
I could see them getting it done on Martinez. Going for Verlander, though, would be counter to the “getting younger/reducing payroll” approach they’ve been taking in the Friedman era. Chris Sale would make a lot more sense for them.
Sounds good. Sounds like a GM building for the future instead of going for it in 2017.
2017 may be the best shot for the Giants to get another title. Will still likely be good enough in 2018, but that’s when the window begins to close in my estimation and that Giants run of contention wanes/window closes from 2019 on (if civil society still exists and we have MLB!).
We fans keep looking for the next Barry Bonds in left field and so far the Giants haven’t found him.
A once in a generation talent?
Austin Slater is probably going to be a better hitter than Mac/Park. Keep him.
When will Austin Slater be ready?
June/July-ish like Panik in ’14? Or maybe April like Duffy was in ’15.
Yep, one of those two comparisons. Slater split 2016 between AA/AAA and had a fantastic year, taken together. He was raking–lots of HRs–in the last couple weeks of the AAA season. Plus his ability to play any OF position in a pinch.
Couldn’t hurt him to play a couple more months in AAA, but if he’s ready…who knows? And with Pence and Span locked into two OF positions…chances are there will be need for an injury replacement(s) at some point. Hate to say so, but there it is.
neither has anyone else 😉
MyTigerSource™ says they want to reduce salaries and get pitching.
Sounds like the Giants have a chance.
yup.
nunez
Joe black
“The fit with the Giants makes a good bit of sense on paper — at least, that is, if San Francisco is willing to cough up enough of interest to get something done. Certainly, the need is there, as the club has an opening in left field and surely wouldn’t mind filling it with another big bat.”
– Jeff Todd, MLB Trade Rumors
Git er done Roberto Evans. Trade for “Marty”
I think J.D. Martinez would be a great fit for the Giants. I actually wanted the Giants to get him before they traded for Pence back in 2012.
You were way ahead of the curve. The Astros were dumping him because they though he couldn’t hit.
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TF, you ARE the TOTAL FAN! Great recount of this amazing game. It was nice to see film of the Stick after it was enclosed and the fences moved in, and Brenly’s bat flip, which was probably the most spontaneous and joyful ever. Great post amigo. :o) paulito
p.s. Was Krukow the SP?