by Dr Lefty
I’m with Grant Brisbee: there are more important things to worry about today than another dreary Giants loss. But it is International Left-Handers Day, so let’s celebrate some lefties. And in the spirit of unity (all hands matter), I’m counting, just for today, baseball players who hit left-handed even if they’re not natural left-handers.
Bryce Harper
I’m not going to link the video. It’s too gut-wrenching. If you want to see it, Google it. But let’s hope it’s not as bad as it looks and he’s back for the playoffs. Love him or hate him, Bryce Harper is one of the faces of the game. And I hope no one enjoys seeing a young athlete sustain a serious and agonizingly painful injury like that. Godspeed, Bryce.
Joe Panik
Pretty much the only good moment of the game for Giants fans, which was delayed by three hours of actual weather followed by more human rain delay (looking at you, Edwin Jackson), was the second AB of the night. To provide some perspective: The Giants and River Cats started at exactly the same time, 7:05 p.m. We watched the entire River Cats game, then fireworks, then walked out to the car, then a 25-minute drive home–and were in our house before the bottom of the eighth inning ended in D.C. Yowza!
Ryder Jones
Another fake lefty like Panik and Harper, but see my editor’s note above. He made a couple of great plays at first base, one of which ended with the Harper injury, which I already said I’m not going to link. But here’s another one.
Andrew Suarez
OK, now on to a real lefty. As I mentioned, we were out at the River Cats game, and as 2017 is wont to do, a brilliant outing turned into a gut-punch loss–literally, Tyler Rogers needed one more strike for the save, we were all on our feet getting ready to celebrate…and then, boom. Before that, though–Suarez looks like the real deal. Four different pitches he can throw for strikes, great command and poise, fastball that sat at 93-94 all night, even in the ninth inning when he’d gone over 100 pitches.
Suarez got a huge ovation from the large Saturday night crowd in Sacramento when he was pulled with two on, one out, 105 pitches, and a 1-0 lead. We sit behind the River Cats’ dugout on the third base side, and he didn’t even look up as he left the mound and headed into the dugout. He was too mad that he couldn’t finish it. I felt bad for him but I liked seeing that. He’s a competitor. That guy needs to be in the Giants’ rotation.
Shawn Estes
…he’s not one of my favorite lefties, but you can’t choose your relatives. Not only did he actually mention on the postgame show that Harper’s injury is a blow to his fantasy team (!!!), but he also spilled a bit of info that I bet wasn’t supposed to be for public consumption: Mark Melancon told him that his elbow still isn’t 100%, and Estes, a former pitcher who had some sore arm issues in his career, said he could tell that Melancon’s arm is hurting because of the lack of snap on his pitches. Why Melancon is even throwing a pitch if he’s not healthy just boggles my mind. Thoughts occur: Is it simply that he’s a responsible guy who has too much integrity to cash huge paychecks without working for him? Or is the answer to “why is Melancon even pitching” two simple words: Sam Dyson?
Sean Doolittle
The lefty who got the save in last night’s game is also an alumnus of the University of Virginia and is known as one of the more thoughtful, articulate players in MLB right now. He had some things to say about what happened at his alma mater this weekend. It’s a whole thread worth reading.
Games 2 and 3 of the triple-header
So Game 3 will be started by our flaky lefty, who reportedly lobbied to make this start when Bochy suggested maybe he should skip one and work on some things. I like that he wants the ball. Better bring it tonight, Matty Moe–because there’s another lefty in Sacramento that’s about ready to take your job.
It’s hard to be very optimistic about a doubleheader started by our two weakest rotation links played on no sleep, but it’s still Giants baseball, so enjoy. And buy a lefty a beer today.
Thoughts and prayers to those injured and the families of those killed in Charlottesville. I’ll take us out with the song from the closing credits from “O Brother,”–“Angel Band.” Lefty out.
He’s up!! He’s at ’em!! He’s the true Greek Freak!!
Now he’s down to 4 questions.Will he ever get to 5 again?
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WHY must Spam bat leadoff?
I can hear the Cubs connection bemoaning Javier Baez at leadoff, but Madd-dogg loves to mix it up.
Because for reasons I can’t fathom, he’s got a wRC+ of 137 in the one hole in May. Ride the wave, I guess.
Because you don’t want him to..Actually it’s because his OBP is .356 since he returned from his shoulder injury. Joe is at .265 over the last month.Nunez is .312 over the last month.Of course, Span has a SSS but he’s the obvious choice as of now,
Your better at spinning a ‘who the fu*k knows’ narrative than I’ll ever be.
As I’ve said before,too many folks here don’t like the Giants, they like bitching about them. See ya.
I think Joe earned a 2nd try.
He sucked at it.
Because Rickey Henderson apparently won’t come out of retirement.
Interesting note — the Cubs are full of top 10 picks. Hopefully it will not take the Giants that long to rebuild, but all those high picks have started to pay off:
Baez — 9th pick
Almora — 6th pick
Bryant — 2nd Pick
Happ — 9th pick
Schwarber — 4th pick
They also traded Shark during the A’s playoff run to land Addison Russell — 11th pick.
Maybe the Giants will make a run this year, but if they don’t if you take the right college OF they can get to the major leagues pretty fast — look at Happ.
Epstein is a genius at drafting. He’s been ahead of the pack since he was in Boston. Someone with the Giants needs to reverse engineer the metrics and measures he looks at instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.
Heyward is First Round
Second Rounders are Lester, Lackey and Anderson
TonightsGuy™ Hendricks was an 8th rounder as was Matt Moore.
Neither team has any core players lower than that right now. Maybe there is something to this drafting thing?
Happ is impressive. He came out of U. of Cincinnati as a 2B, IIRC. He had some minor hiccups in development, but still steady #’s in milb. Seems it has all come together and he’s as impressive as projected to be. Would be nice to be able draft one of those “best collegiate hitters” among draft class.
Buster has 11 RBI, 7th on his team, has a. 302 SLG% with runners on base in 53 at bats with a runner on base, and 4 RBI, those are not MVP numbers . He also has yet to have more then 1 RBI in a game this season .
(1) What’s wrong with Johnny Beisbol?
One blister is not good, two is no bueno
(2) Will the Giants ever get to .500?
Yes
(3) Is Denard Span healthy?
No – jammed thumb
(4) Is Buster the NL MVP so far this season?
No
Giants Game Notes http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/9/2/2/232164922/05.24.17_at_CHC_Game_Notes_nvzctz0l.pdf
ChiCubs Game Notes http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/documents/7/6/4/232195764/May_24_vs._SF_xnkwl0js.pdf
What’s wrong with Johnny Beisbol? He wants out early.
Will the Giants ever get to .500? Before Philly does.
Is Denard Span healthy? Now you’ve done it, thanks
Is Buster the NL MVP so far this season? No, it’s KT.
Interesting piece on Posey’s strange season. Sorry if it was already posted.
http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/79777/is-buster-posey-having-the-strangest-season-ever
Someone worse than the Gork?
“Caleb Joseph, 2016 Orioles: Joseph batted 141 times last season and drove in zero runs, the most PAs ever without an RBI for a position player. He didn’t hit a sacrifice fly. He didn’t record an RBI groundout. He couldn’t get a little blooper with a runner on third. Incredible. He hit .174, including 2-for-27 with runners in scoring position.”
Gorkys had a 4 RBI game in the Giants 1st win of the season .
He definitely peaked early.
last year Caleb Joseph’s WAR was -.9, (career +2.8) this year GH’s WAR is -1.4, so CJ must play some good defense, something GH hasn’t really done this year.
Hey, why don’t we stomp that into the ground 6 feet under and set the cemetery on fire?
What really drove the evolution of land creatures.
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5. What’s the 5th question?
Updated, refresh. See what stomach flu, mixed with fatigue mixed with contemporary art does to you?
6. Will Greek Giant barf a Pollack masterpiece?
What’s potizza?
Chicago weather. Wind in still, I think.
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-87.65906230468866&lat=41.90862442950197
You’re in Venice??!? Cool…
http://www.venicepaparazzi.com/vp/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Muscle-Beach-Juice-Bar-2-1-552×414.jpg
Is that the Govinator?
Yah! Pump you up!
he has shrunk….
Giants are 11-10 in May, including both a five-game winning streak and a five-game losing streak.
So the glass is half something?
half vodka
Half peach juice?
warm n’ fuzzy navel? is that your poison?
Ugh… I might actually take a Midori sour over that.
I wanna barf. What’s your take on sour beer? Ever tried that new fad-craze?
Nope. Sierra Nevada is my go to. But none of their “new” flavors. Pales and porters. Bigfoot if I’m in the area. Like Lagunitas and Stone. And like I said yesterday, the Maui Brew beers. Their Bikini Blonde is too light but their Coconut Porter and Big Swell IPA are legit.
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale: a wonderful brew.
🙁
Exciting news. The Giants expect to activate Aaron Hill very soon.
MyHill™
Sweet. Sufferin’. Jeesus.
Gillaspie, too. Add their averages together and you get a .253 hitter.
Francoeur might still be available. Bochy last referred to him as a “proven hitter”.
If we could just get Dan Uggla back. Never gave him much of a chance.
They handled that so weirdly, and it all pointed to them not having any clue what they were doing. It looked like a terrible idea to sign Uggla. And then he has a few memorably terrible games. But if they ACTUALLY thought he was a guy that could help the team, NOTHING that happened in 3 games – great or terrible – should have changed their mind.
Probably because he did so well today.
Exciting? No. Depressing? Yes.
He’s exiting? Perfect!!
Wrigley tonight is colder that ATT and maybe Candlestick
Maddon will have the beanie on. Book it.
http://www.thedailyworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/web1_JoeMaddon.jpg
A genius, and he’s cool too. Or else he’s signaling that tonight the Cubs are only going to play two outfielders (shallow) because, you know, the Giants rarely make any solid contact.
Put some Fruit Of The Loom on your brass monkey, Pal
1. Lost that deep hunger and drive. That strong commitment to compete and dominate has given way to other forces. Still can be a great pitcher, but needs to get that fire back. Or so it looks that way.
2. Yes.
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
You’re blind as a bat. He’s still showing plenty of fire. Body just isn’t cooperating.
What’s the deal?
A half hour before kickoff and there’s this kind of putrid posting going on? Hey, take some pressure off the frenzy of in-game posting. I think there might be some residual depression from the last game, right?
Don’t be depressed. Just bale out early if things look grim. Believe me, it helps with one’s mental health.
It probably makes me a #badfan but I find it far easier to bail on a game now than before I witnessed 3 WS winners. That first one in 2010 lifted a huge weight off me, and by 2011 season I found I wasn’t living and dying nearly as much with games as I was on any game before 2010 (and even worse DURING 2010). Once they won another, and then ANOTHER, I found I can emotionally uninvest pretty easily from a game.
Adam Duvall hit his 10th, raising his OPS to .810.
He’s no Eugenio Suarez, Scott Schebler, or Zack Cozart, and he’s definitely no Joey Votto, but he’s still pretty good. Scooter Gennett is rocking an .845 OPS, but that’s in less than 100 PAs.
I think you should title your album “Random With A Purpose”
Random Acts of Blindness
Duvall 37 RBI, Posey 11 RBI .
What famous Giant used to state that…. The Money lies in the RBIs. Enjoy the game.
By the way Joey Voto struck out with the bases loaded and one out , and Duvall flied out next, if Voto did what Duvall did the Reds would have took a 3-2 lead .
Those Rockies are just a bunch of ass-kickers. And Cargo is just barely getting going. He hit his 4th in a 7 run third in Philly.
Enjoy Venice, filomou. My answers to five questions:
1) Blisters, but moreso mistakes to location.
2) Yes. After the four-game series in Atlanta June 19-22.
3) Healthy as he’s going to be. Meaning no stolen bases and more pie-throwing.
4) No. Most valuable Giant, yes.
5) Washington series
next week.
TF, do you think the blisters may actually lead into location mistakes? I do…
Or even just make Johnny think he may not have 100% control?
Yes.
1, Blisters, ill wind for wins
2. Yes
3. No
4. No
5. By June 5.
No, Jeremy… Moore threw it away but Panik saved him. Crawford covered, but the throw was to Williamson
Good sign, lots of ground balls.
Like you do, Matty Mo. Throw strikes.
little ball!
Love that play by Nunez, hope he didn’t get injured there though
Great push bunt! Perfect.
“Aaron Hill!!!!! Come on DOWN!!!!!”
Kuiper always says “get ’em in, get ’em over”…and there it is! Think about it Smoothie.
shit
He’s staying in. No thanks Aaron Hill!!
Sorry, Mac, that was a POS AB. Has he got some holes in his approach. Up and out, just pout.
He looks totally lost.
You’re reading Bochy’s mind…
I think we’re right in the thick of “Giants rookie knows he’ll get benched or cut if he doesn’t make an impression, presses, makes bad impression”
1: Late to spring and out of shape
2: Sure at some point in my lifetime which may short if Mr Deer has his wish
3: About as good as a 33 year old grey beard can be
4: Not even close to it yet.
5: Hopefully never the guy is washed up
Re #5…we’re going to remind you of that BS every time he excels.
That is fine it might be the 1 positive thing you may have to discuss if it comes true.
We’ll see….
Thumb Wars!!!
Span the man!
Span reacts well to time off.
He’s had LOTS of practice! ( sorry… you teed it up)
GG will you also be going to Burano? Venice is one of my favorite cities too.
Ever see Blume in Love. It was filmed in Venice.
Venice is a cool city.
Through three innings, Moore at 34 pitches (Hendricks at 56). Good pace for Matt. Good third inning.
So what’s going on with The Kid lately?
Too much Pokemon.
Facing some very good pitchers, as Kuip said.
They had been busting him in in the hands and now he’s guessing too much
True. Just relax and hit it where it’s pitched. Be patient with him. He’s going to be special.
It’s a constant game of adjustments if they are initially successful. He’s got to prove it every time they exploit a weakness.
92 and fat. Dead center cut.
PAY ATTENTION, Matt.
OK, Mac. Get on base, start a rally.
1. Blisters…kind of important for a pitcher;
2. No;
3. Yes;
4. No. He’s been excellent, but the MVP doesn’t have 11 RBIs for the team with the 5th worst record in baseball;
5. Ten days. Unfortunately, he’ll never be what he was;
Belt on twice again for Posey and not advanced. Belt has been on base quite bit for the four hitter to only have 11 RBIs.
Another nice pitch for a run.
Sorry, I don’t think Moore is very clutch.
Last game of last season?
Panik has a big dose of Span-ish. Too many ground balls to the right side.
Regarding Arroyo, has anyone ever heard Matt Williams talk about his early struggles and what he thought of learning in the big leagues vs. going back down and having some success before returning?
Story of our season so far: tying run at second with one out, #3-4 guys coming up, two infield pop ups and we don’t score.
The offense is not very good. The Cubs can hit and you need to score some runs — the offense was productive in the first game — not much since that time.
It’s more than not very good. As I posted yesterday, the team’s BA (now .231) would be the lowest for a full season in franchise history, a history that goes back to the Chester Alan Arthur administration.
Let’s revisit that when it has in fact been a full season.
In the meantime, no need to be posting this repeatedly.
Can you give me your email address? That way, I could first send my comments to you for approval before actually posting them.
Give it a rest, man. Nothing wrong with what he posted. You are insufferable. Really.
Stop reading.
I figured they must have had a couple of bad years during Taft or Woodrow. Chester Arthur huh.
With Posey and Crawford you have to think the tying run scores there. That’s a huge miss.
That’s why Posey is looking at less than 50-RBI for the year
That was bad. Those two need to be much better
So Belt gets to second when his bunt and hustle forces an error…and Posey and Crawford do nothing.
It happens, but had that been Nunez or Mac or even Belt himself stranding the tying run in scoring position, people would have been calling for their head.
Posey’s Splits are unreal, with the bases empty he is a Hall of Famer, with runners on base he is a little leaguer .
Team cant hit much. Good for Belt though
Those were bad at bats… but I wouldn’t bring up Mac right now.
Posey just looks like he’s always guessing.
First pitch to Rizzo? Right down the middle. Lol. Unreal.
Sit down Maddon.
inside the line the last 2 steps.
That’s a huge break. Moore better get his head in the game.
Kuiper just said half of the base is in fair territory. Funny I always thought all of the base is in fair territory.
Atta babe, Moore. Good job getting out of that jam.
…with a little help from his friends–the wind and the umpire.
Probably had to limit the Cubs to one run with this “offense.” Hope I’m wrong.
Appreciate the rule reference. Sorry Joe. No, not really.
OK, Giants: huge breaks that inning. Now get two runs!
Remember when Timmy went through his evolution from power pitcher to pitch to “crappy” contact? This guy…
If you’re gonna go to 3rd on that, you better be dead on with your throw. Freakin’ Kontos, man.
He had him. He just rushed it and short armed it.
He settled in nicely afterwards. I’ll take this outcome.
Weird fucking rule
Did I just hear a let’s go Giants chant?
That might have been Surf Maui!
Looked like a strike.
That stare down of Nelson ought to pay dividends down the road, George….
I thought Moore clearly showed he was done in the bottom of the sixth. He got out of it with incredible luck. Should not have been in to pitch the 7th.
Bochy always des that , did it with Peavy all the time, He is a bad Manager and not in the good way !
I think Morse should stick with the long pants. Looks more powerful.
Good grief. Affeldt’s riffing on “who’s this Uehara guy, huh, looks like he used to close some games out for the Red Sox.”
Um, yeah. In the 2013 WORLD SERIES.
He says “dude” a lot too.
Not a fan of the game, he admitted this, he only played later in his career to support his off field causes, his dad pushed him into Baseball, he never loved it .
If I know who the closer of the Red Sox was when they won the World Series, so should a former major league player who’s providing color commentary on TV broadcasts. That’s just ignorant. Read the media guide, at least. I’m guessing Uehara’s Red Sox heroics are mentioned in it.
The SF Giants, the team your team gets back on track against.
This HP ump is a complete a$$hole.
Another up vote.
Man this offense!
Mystery strike zone. Professional.
Seems like a bigger strike zone for the Cubs
SEEMS? Wow what a surprise, considering they received every possible break en route to “winning” the WS last year. They make me sick. Still.
Yeah, Belt saw 5 balls there
6.
Kontos pissed him off
I like Affeldt and I’m rooting for him to do well, but so far I have to say I find him lazy and unprepared. He acts like he’s a baseball player who’s slumming by filling in for Krukow, not a professional who has a real job to do.
I would rather him just be himself. Goofy and sometimes clueless and wrong, but speaking the language of the players. He has plenty of time to get polished and sound like every other announcer.
You don’t sound like you’re rooting for him below…I wouldn’t take everything he says as totally serious, either, by the way.
He really sounded like a doofus. It was embarrassing. He needs to try harder.
I actually think he is pretty funny but I missed whatever he did earlier.
Didn’t know who Koji (closer for the 2013 World Champion Red Sox) Uehara was. Pretty damn stupid.
Might want to peak at the roster bios before the game. If it had been an even year he would have known because they would have played them in the series.
I’m with Squeeze. Each guy has his quirks… Kuiper the Malaprop, Krukow the Homer, Jon the Storyteller. Let Jeremy grow into it and let him stumble
I absolutely think he can do this and do it well, but I also think there’s a level of professionalism that can and should be expected. Looking through the opposing players’ names and finding out how to pronounce them. Looking at the media guide. Practicing the promos he has to read so that they sound more natural. Those things only take a few minutes but they show some respect for the job to be done. Even Buster Posey pulls off commercials better than that. I bet he practices his lines.
Kuiper has been messing up names for 30 years
You really think Affeldt should get a pass on doing a new job well just because he’s Jeremy Affeldt? I bet you don’t approach your job that way. I don’t with mine, either.
No, I think you’re being oddly negative on the guy, and going Full Lefty, which surprises me. Reading promos? I’m in the “so what?” camp . I remember the brutal early years for basically every ex-player. Not sure he needs to be under this big microscope…
It’s not really about him in particular. It’s about taking pride in your work and being a professional, not phoning it in. I actually do believe he can do better.
He can. I agree…
Are you ever willing to criticize a Giant? Jeez. You don’t believe he should practice the promos, which he obviously doesn’t?
Lefty certainly appreciates your help.
I’m so tired of your refusal to acknowledge the negatives I do post so that you can lie like this. Really, look in the mirror and ask yourself if that behavior is adult.
I get you live for poking people who will respond, and I’m playing right into your hands ( which you will innocently deny) . But the absurd ongoing cherry picked lying is beneath you.
He’s just a clumsy puppy.
But he has a good voice and more than competently calls the games.
I hope they make him listen to tapes of the games and coach him on how to improve. He could be very good with time, but right now he’s not doing good work.
Belt third time on base for Posey. Belt should have walked twice in that AB.
Let’s hope for his first multi RBI game all year.
Time to break that solo HR streak.
And where the hell is Bochy during this disaster of a HP ump? Nowhere to be seen. No barking, no screaming, no keeping him honest.
Yes he was
I must’ve prioritized my drink at the precise moment Boch raised a gnarled eyebrow.
Limbo pitch.
This is the game right here.
Com’on Craw. Turn the season around.
I love how Craw makes pitchers nervous. Cool as a frozen pickle.
On second thought…looks like I picked the wrong week to start drinking Grey Goose neat.
Hmm. That makes me want to try a frozen pickle.
Sooooooooo frustrating.
Craw’s approach on the 3-1 pitch sums up the season so far. Too tentative with RISP.
Taking a 3-1 fastball down the heart was not a good approach, MyGuy
Playin’ the ole “Takin’ a 3-1 fastball down the heart blues” tonight, Matty Boy.
Crawford blows the inning swinging at a ball after a 4 pitch walk. The first 8 pitches were balls and it meant nothing.
Sounds like a good tattoo.
Shoulda bunted
Didn’t mean much to the umpire either.
Looking for walks and bunts , you are a loser !
Lefty and I just cut a deal. We traded Affeldt for Okert.
Okert headed to the booth, Scud to the bump
no way do I want to see kerosene pitching again for the Giants.
and by kerosene I mean Affeldt.
Williamson barely caught that. Gearrin is coming in with a runner on that will score so it will be 6-2 going to the ninth.
Cubs add on after we blow our chance to tie or take the lead. Of course.
Shark for the split tomorrow.
Gearrin has allowed 36 base runners in 17 innings.
Plus he’s let a ton of inherited runners score. When that “flip it in there” stuff isn’t working, he gets pounded. Hasn’t been working much this year.
Recent Okert should remind us how fragile these young ones are. We were all in on Osich last year until we weren’t… then we were all in on Okert, and Osich was guano… now Okert looks Kickhamish.
I love the B Craw takes control double play.
I still love his game, but he had two very bad at bats in key spots tonight
Crawford came straight back from the DL, and is only now getting his batting timing back. I think he’s right on the cusp of it (but I am an optimist).
A little to late, after his at bat .
Nunez is going to be tired.
I like the way he’s hacking
And Kaboom
Damn that bullpen giving up 2 runs…
You go Mac!!!
out of here!
BIG MAC!!!
Hell of an AB by Mac
Indeed. 12 pitches, oppo, broke the solo HR streak (at 19). But alas, a 2-run HR down by 3 in the 9th. : (
1st HR off Davis since 2015
Wow — that is a strong man’s HR. I wish Gorkys had gotten the start.
Attaboy Mac! GREAT AB.
And, Mac Williamson, that clutch 2-run bomb will earn you a pinch-hit-for (grammar?) with Gorkys Hernandez if this game goes extras.
Nice to see Mac have a good at bat, with a good result. And….
And not a solo shot!!
He also hit one into the wind earlier that would have gone out on a better day to hit to left.
Two really good ABs by Morse. Gorkys time — needs to steal.
Mac officially hitting better than Arroyo, 55 wRC+ to 49 wRC+.
Davis is really slow to the plate — needs to be able to steal here.
Seeing The Grey Hipster Joe Maddon makes me wanna pick the wrong week to stop anger management counseling.
Davis did not come set on the last pitch — could have called a balk.
Not against the Cubs.
You need to take off there Gork!!!
Seriously Gorkys — he is useless.
Seriously??? How do you not take 2b on THAT?
About time
Another take on 3-1. Unbelievable.
Another 3-1 meat take. Wow
BS. Not a strike!
Are you kidding?
Not a strike
That wasn’t a strike — BS. Not even close.
That’s the ballgame? That’s a ball.
Unfuckingbelievable
POS umpire.
BASTARD.
sad.
That wasn’t close. That’s little league umpiring.
Yep. Don’t raise a ruckus, Boch. Ridiculous.
He did. Again
Really? For what a second this time? Come on, man. He should’ve Earl Weavered that punk’s ass!
He stayed in the dugout — he should have gone out there. That call was ridiculous.
TOTALLY! Absolutely horrible. I think the umps know they can get away with this kind of crap, for crying out loud. Manager has to stick up for his team and that was pathetic.
So, he should go scream and yell after the game was over? I might have.. he barked from afar . Diff’rent strokes.
Yes — I have seen it happen a number of times. He often barks from afar and they ignore him b/c they probably cannot understand his mumbling. He needed to get out there and give it to him — the strike zone was horrendous late in the game.
I agree he needs to waddle out of the dugout and show some life.
That umpire would not have called that a strike if it was the first second third inning so on and so forth until the ninth inning probably because he wanted to go home
He smelled those hot dogs and cheese fries cooking up in the umpires locker room.
Wouldn’t call it for a 3rd out on the Cubs, either.
horrible.
ARGHHHHHHHHHH. I want to kick that umpire in the nuts so hard, then he REALLY won’t be seeing straight.
That bush league ump had a verbal bushwhacking coming all game, and that’s all Boch does at the end?? That ump deserves to be tarred and feathered, and that outrage was WEAK. Should have lit that POS UP.
It was very weak.
That throw by Kontus to 3B. Unforced error. Add tht to some the worst balls and strikes calls in recent memory, and you want to yell.
Jeff Nelson–the crew chief–does his best Eric Gregg impression and ends our comeback. That is ridiculous. He missed at least a dozen pitches the last three innings.
Helluva rally though. Let’s build on that. Great AB/HR from Mac means he’ll be in there tomorrow.
What do you think of my Kontos Theory? Nelson should be ashamed…
You know when the zone changed? After Kontos’ stare down. Nelson is so weak that he then changed the way he called strikes because he was mad at a Giant. Pitiful job by a supposed professional
Then you hold the POS accountable when those shenanigans start. Not some token tongue lashings. The Boch of old would’ve gotten his ass ejected with that kind of BS.
Earlier? Would that have made Nelson call it better? I doubt it
Yes it would have. You have to call BS on that kind of garbage. If you make it easy on them, they will continue to pull that kind of crap bc there’s no ramifications. Boch has been softening on this kind of thing for a few years now. I remember him being much more full of venom in jobbings like we just saw. DAMMIT that was frustrating!!!
You go, Bulleit!
DAMMIT RYE BOURBON!!! Actually I’m drinking grey goose neat tonight. It is surprisingly spicy.
I thought it changed after Maddon threw his little fit about the runner being called out for running outside the lines.
Maybe. Everyone loves those madcap cool kids!
I fucking hate the Cubs. I now hate Jeff Nelson.
Don’t worry Mac, I’d beckon you to come closer if you were running behind me. On the field anyway. Maybe not in a dark alley in the middle of the night.
I love the post game analyst , got the momentum for tomorrow, What ? The problem bunch of Pitchers and old slap hitters as analyst so like huge Strike zones, Kuiper likes fast moving Games and the Pitchers like to get strikes on balls a foot outside !
You know your team is bad when in the post game show they are excited about the 1/2 inning when the bases were loaded but no one scored.
Shawn Estes was. Not all of them.
John was just as excited as Affelt.
Oh you mean in the booth..
Bunch of former slappys and Pitchers, what do you expect .
Good. Bruce called out Nelson. You can’t change it, but whatcha gonna do?
Throw gatorade and spit tobacco juice in his face. Simultaneously.
Automate balls and strikes. Tennis gets close calls right every time and there’s never even any doubt.
Yep. Really dumb to have humans doing a job technology can do better.
Robocops!!!
Maybe someday.
Doing it poorly. And with bad attitudes. I used to love umpires. They were proven correct so often. The strike zones were only slightly different. Now, these guys are awful. And they seem to take some kind of weird pride in having their own personal definition of the strike zone. Like the game is somehow better because this guys calls high strikes. And one last thing. I understand how umps miss borderline pitches on the outside corner on occasion. But why, like the guy tonight, would a professional MLB umpire ever call a pitch a strike that misses inside? I mean, that’s so easy to see. He’s looking right at it.
I think they’ve probably always had the same problems with balls and strikes, because I think the strike zone is just hard for someone to judge with something approaching total accuracy. I think the technology that’s been developed has just provided a way to demonstrate a weakness that has probably always existed.
Yeah you’re probably right. Still rare to see a guy miss the inside corner when he’s lining up on it.
It ended up not mattering, but why did Bochy double-switch Belt out? If Panik had gotten the (correct) call on the 3-2 pitch, the pitcher’s spot would have been up. You’d really rather have Nick Hundley or Ruggiano hit with the game on the line? Belt’s the #3 hitter, leading the team in HRs and RBIs, and had already been on base three times.
Keep Morse in the game
So it’s more important to keep a .219 pinch hitter and weaken your defense to boot? Weird. The Giants have a thin roster, and that’s putting it politely. It’s odd to make it thinner in what turned out to be a one-run game.
Excuse me — a .219 hitter with home run power who actually reached base om both plate appearances– and when he left him in the game it was only a two run lead.He would have come up 4th in the inning as the tying run if a baserunner reached– exactly as happened. and he did his job by reaching. Okert giving up the run in the 8th prevented that situation Otherwise he would have had to hit Hernandez or Hundlley in that situation instead of having them ready as the 7th batter in. the inning. Sorry Dr. L, in your zeal to criticize every Bochy decision you missed this one. He actually played it perfectly.
Sorry, Surf, but in your desire to blindly support everything Bochy does, you missed this one. Taking your #3 hitter out late in a tight game when you have a terrible bench makes no sense. If Belt were in an awful slump and had struck out four times, maybe. But he’s not. He hit a homer last night and was on base three times tonight. Plus Morse is a liability in the field and Belt is an asset.
Your 3 hitter would have been up 7th in the inning at a time when it was highly unlikely that he would have ever cone to bat especially down only 2. He was not the 3 hitter in that situation but rather the 7 hitter. The alternative down 2 as they were, when the move was made was Ruggiano Hernandez or Hundley to Morse– not Belt who was still 3 batters away when there would have been a 2 out tying run situation. Belt’s presence in the dugout at the time would nit have helped much, but maybe you would have felt better because his name was still in the lineup. Actually I had not thought of leaving Morse in and It was a very clever, indeed inspired ingenius move to do it.
There’s nothing clever or inspired about doing a double switch to keep a guy with a .550 OPS, who also can’t catch baseballs, in the game.
Quadruple bingo.
He got on base in both at bats, and Belt’s spot in the order never got up !!
But what if Belt’s spot HAD gotten up? That was my point in bringing this question up in the first place. Didn’t happen, so oh, well.
Idiotic statement , Morse made you look like 1 too, on base both times up, played 1st base with no problems .
Kewl. How have the other times gone getting Morse into the lineup? Morse and his .250 OBP sure showed me.
Yes. I would have felt better if his name was still in the lineup. Along with Posey he’s one of their two best hitters this year. He’s the third-place hitter and the best first baseman. What manager takes out his third-place hitter late in a tight game so that a washed-up bench guy who shouldn’t even own a glove can keep playing? It was stupid and Bochy is lucky that Panik struck out so that it didn’t become an issue.
It reminds me of a game in Posey’s rookie year when Bochy, again late in a tight game, took Buster out and had Eli Whiteside pinch run for him. The game went into extra innings and Whiteside struck out twice in Posey’s spot. That was in July 2010 when Posey was red-hot and had a 21-game hitting streak and was NL Player of the Month. The Giants lost that game thanks to Bochy’s stupidity. Posey’s no racehorse, but he was 23 and it was before his ankle injury. You have another catcher run for him AND remove his bat from the lineup?
When the move was made, the overwhelming likelihood was that the game was going to be on the line in the ninth spot in the order– exactly as happened– not the 3rd spot.
Wonder if Bochy brings that bad call to the lineup card exchange tomorrow. Argues it and gets booted before the game starts. I’d do it. Those umps need to start showing Boch some respect.
Thought the same thing, Joe…
I missed how / why Belt was taken out. Anybody here?
See below
I don’t think he was?
Yes he was. Morse was at 1st at bot 8th.
And Hundley was on deck during JP’s last AB.
He was, Bochy made a double switch took Belt out and put Morse at 1st who had a PH single in the 9th spot, and put Pitcher in the 3rd spot
He came out on a double switch at the start of B8. Okert came in to pitch, Morse replaced Belt at 1st base.
Thanks. As it turns out, he would have been the next batter after JP in the 9th. And he had 3 hits in game.
Wait, WHAT? Even the studio crew didn’t know this, as they talked about Panik needing to get Belt to the plate in the 9th. How is HE the guy out of this lineup prone to a double switch??
Because Mac Williamson gets pinch hit for by Gregor Blanco after hitting a 3-run-HR bomb against the Red Sox last year in what was a usurped epic comeback. Because Bochy. That’s why.
I get it. That’s why I went back to my MLB-TV replay and watched the 8th and 9th again. Check it out. Confusion made me go over it again because nobody seemed to notice a very dumbfounding move, especially since Belt would have followed the AB of Panik if he had walked to tie the score.
Belt had a good day at the plate too. 3 hits tonight? right?
Yeah, managers always figure that that the 7th hitter in the inning will always bat.Looking for a goat- Boyo hits the interstate with a pathetic AB in the 9th. Boy oh boy and Joey Baseball made 2 of the outs in the ninth.There are your goats, pal.
No Morse pinch hit to start the 8th and singled. Because the Gisnts loaded the bases, he was due to bat 4th in the ninnth and would have been the tying run had not Okert given up another one in the 8th. He remained in the game at first because Belt was not due to bat until 7th in the ninth inning.
I’ve watched the replays of the 8th and 9th. Morse played 1st in Bot 8. Hundly was on deck for Panik’s last AB.
So how was that Bochy’s fault?
Morse had singled as a PH in the 8th inning ,batting in the 9th spot, Crawford in the 5th spot made the last out in the 8th inning, so Bochy made a double switch, took Belt out put the new Pitcher in the 3rd spot in order , kept Morse in the game at 1st base in the 9th spot in the order, pretty simple .
This loss is on Kontos/Okert. Kontos as usual let his inherited runner score by a bonehead throw on the bunt. If was iffy in my opinion whether even a hood throw had the runner. If you are going to third you better get the out, and the hurried throw cost a run. They must have waived the SAT requirement to let him into. northwestern. Yes he pitched well after letting in the run but it was too late.
As for Okert, since his two great back to back performances versus the Dodgers he has been worthless. So who goes when they reduce the pitching staff. Gearin, Osich or Okert?
Plenty of blame to go around. Moore let lefty Rizzo take him deep twice. Crawford took two terrible ABs with runners on. I agree Kontos and Okert were bad, but it was a team effort, losing this game.
Morse grooved the second HR to Rizzi right down the middle– but except for that pitched pretty well. What I did like is– as in the Mets game and the Cardinals game on Saturday, they came back to score on the ninth.
The first HR was on a get it in first pitch curve ball — Rizzo must have been looking for that pitch — no excuse on the second HR.
Moore.
Moore got lucky on the interference call.
And on Heyward’s three-run homer that the wind blew foul.
Kontos pitched well. Okert needs to take a long walk on a short pier.
I really don’t understand your ongoing defense of Kontos. He’s a mediocre middle reliever who’s having a terrible year. He’s overpaid and will very likely be gone after this season, thank goodness. And his fireworks commercial is stupid, too, but I guess that’s not really his fault.
I was the first to ridicule that commercial. As to whose to blame for that, it would be the ad agency ,as you know.
As to my “ongoing defense” of Kontos, of course he’s had a rough start this year.But it’s preposterous to posit that he’s been just a mediocre reliever for us.
Getting back to the IR numbers, 4 of 14 have scored. 29 percent- that’s good.
I think 29% is typically right around league average.
But yeah, I’d say mediocre is a fair description of Kontos. Some years have been better than others. He’s not trustworthy in high-leverage situations because he’s too prone to hanging sliders. He definitely is not worth what he’s being paid now. I’m guessing he’ll be gone after this year because they can get good or better performances from someone out of the system for league minimum.
Well, he may be gone after this year but he will pitch in the bigs next year .And he’ll have several teams to choose from. I don’t think that most MLB teams share your opinion of George. IMO.
That’s just one of the weird wrinkles of the arb process though. The other teams will be able to sign him for less $$ than the Giants. Unless SF works something out where they release him and resign him for under whatever his arb raise will be.
Loosers look for blame, winners look for success.
Bochy should have pulled Moore after he barely, luckily escaped the 6th. Several opportunities on offense with zip to show. Came back from deficits, but that run in the bottom of the eighth was the killer.
Getting out of the 7th with only 1 run scored was great work.Putting the loss on Kontos is BS.
Panik and Okert share that honor. And Moore.
Gearrin. I question the need for Morris as well. Crick is apparently locking it down in Sacto. Gotta be better than those two.
Affeldt picking Kontos for pitching well after making a poor decision and an error causing a run is an analyst scud
Why was Belt taken out?
Because Bochy’s a genius and can never, ever be questioned. If anything goes wrong, it’s the players’ fault. If anything goes right, the credit goes to Bochy. Got it?
No. Why was Belt taken out? Why was Morse playing 1st in 8th?
The reason was that Morse was due to bat fourth in the ninth — he pinch hit in the pitcher’s spot in the 8th and got a hit and Bochy’s bench sucks so if he didn’t do the double switch he would have had to use Hundley earlier. Of course if Panik walks it means that Hundley bats in the ninth with two runners instead of Belt. That was the reasoning though.
Oops saw that Surf Maui explained it all below.
Bases were loaded for Panik in the 9th.
Nope — bases were loaded for Crawford in the 8th. Just Gorkys who was pinch running for Morse was on base when Panik was up in the ninth.
My bad
And if Panik gets a hit and ties the game and it goes into extras, now you’re without Belt to play defense or to hit. It doesn’t make sense to take out your #3 hitter. Also, since Bochy then put in a pinch-runner for Morse in the ninth, had the game continued, Posey would have had to play first with Hundley catching for however long the game went. So for no good reason he would have decimated his bench and weakened both C and 1B defensively.
That I agree with. I’m not giving Kontos props for making the situation worse than when he came in. He allowed one of Moore’s runners to score by his own ineptitude. That means he failed to do his job–after Kuiper and Affeldt were gushing when he came in about how much Bochy “trusts Kontos in this situation.” Nobody should trust Kontos in any situation other than the team’s up or down by six or more runs.
According to your rule, introduced last year, inherited runners should be charged to the pitcher who let them get on in the first place.
It’s not ‘my rule’–inherited runners ARE charged to the pitcher who put them on, though in this case, because Kontos made that error, the run was unearned. And yes, it was Moore’s runner and his responsibility. But the announcers went on and on about how great Kontos is at coming into games and stranding runners and then he didn’t do it, so IMO, he shouldn’t get props on the postgame show for the job he did. Just because it could have been worse doesn’t make it good.
Actually, I misspoke. Your rule would have the runners charged to the pitcher who was let the inherited runners score. You made a big deal about it.
No, I don’t think that would be my rule. But I also think if a reliever is hyped as someone who can come in and strand runners, they shouldn’t get credit for not stranding runners. There are stats for both things–the original pitcher’s ERA and the reliever’s percentage of inherited runners scored. I’m fine with both of those stats being used. 🙂
I’m fine with everything today.
Word. When they said that, I thought “no way I trust Kontos with *anything* at this point.” Sure enough…
You were at the game, right? What’s the story?
I didn’t see the game but heard that on the way home. Very odd. Miller was really hard on Panik for apparently taking a 3-1 meatball before striking out. Said he was in the “take mode.”
Strike 3 was actually Ball 4.
Joe knew that was being called a strike. He can’t take that.
Miller was right.
Kontos did pitch well. Put that on Moore.
You mean on Bochy for leaving Moore in the game 1 inning to long , just like he always leaves starting Pitchers in games 1 inning to long ..
Today is the first step backwards since the Giants started playing better recently.
They need to patiently keep winning series fairly consistently to move in right direction.
They have a chance to salvage a tie tomorrow — hope they can do it!
Did anyone mention that Duvall hit his 10th Home run today?
We never miss a beat
Get over it.
Twist that corks screw 1 more time
By the way, did I mention that I hate the Cubs fans? Either the seats in the refurbished section of Wrigley where I was seated are smaller or Chicago must be the home of the fattest people on earth. I was seated between two 400 pound guys. It made losing even worse. And I really hate that stupid Go Cubs Go song.
That would be all the Polish Sausages and Deep Dish Pizza we eat.
Was a there a makeup call to end the game or just two bad calls evenly distributed to both teams?
One? Two? There were about 20 ball/strike make up calls. And the runner interference call was the correct call. There was no makeup call(s) to be made.
I was totally surprised by the interference call. You don’t see umps make that call.
I was totally unsurprised by the makeup calls.
this is all I’ve seen of The Called Strike Three:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DApCwj5W0AAiu4a.jpg:large
If Boch had handwritten a letter to the bones of Bowie Kuhn, it would have had the same effect as his “protests” during the game.
Hard to believe they can still win the road trip. All it takes it making a split of Chicago behind The Shark.
Tyron Lue says it is tougher to defend Boston than the Warriors:
“We’re just focused on Boston. The stuff they’re running, it’s harder to defend than Golden State’s [offense] for me, as far as the actions and all the running around and all the guys who are making all the plays, so it’s a totally different thing”
Oh yeah right. Boston. That offensive juggernaut.
I think Coach Lebron was upset at him for that
Take it out on the Cubs tomorrow!
Pack your bags, Okert. Or I will do it for you.The guys in the boiler room are waiting.fer ya.
You may all end up in the boiler room. I’ll be nice, though- I’ll remove those raccoon scent glands this time. Bon Appetit.
For a game that was supposed to be low scoring and lack of Home Run power due to the wind blowing in, there sure were a bunch of HR’s flying out to right. The Giants 2 power hitters Span and Williamson took advantage of the cavernous park by nutting a couple
Games of inches are tough when you lose them….that was a weird game…and I disagree with the announcers about the Giants having momentum going in to today.
Lot’s of poor executions last night: Posey and Crawford had the tying run on 2nd, and failed to get him in. Later, Crawford took a 3-1 pitch right down the middle with the bases loaded, then weakly grounded out. Then Panik taking yet another 3-1 meatball before he was lawn mowered by Nelson on a terrible pitch call.
Moore was generally good, but he was outguessed by Rizzo and bailed out by that interference call that was weak. Kontos doesn’t look the same whatsoever this year. Okert is mentally lost.
These games are increasingly important to pull off wins, and that needed to be a feel-good last night. There were some good things: Good on Mac for coming through in the 9th…best at bat of the year for the kid. Belt, before being yanked, looked good. Morse did his job.
Today is vitally important, but I wonder how the guys will come out there today. Tough turnaround and a flight home to look forward to….
Anyone notice that after the end of the game Boch moved over to talk to Mac and Mac was looking down with one hand over his forehead/eyes. I hope that wasn’t a great effort kid, there’s a plane ticket back to Sac for you.
Apparently Mac hit one earlier to left that was knocked down by the wind so I think Mac’s last at bat earned him lots of cred and he will stay. Pence is being pushed back in his rehab too.
I hope so.
I hope the rumor about Mac going down is wrong. Maybe it’s just me but I only get all het up until something actually, like, *happens* .
Amazing though it is to contemplate, according to the beat writers, they may actually send Mac, a real outfielder, back to Sac so that Aaron Hill and his .120 batting average can be activated. Because a team with one outfielder on the DL, another who keeps getting injured, another who’s an infielder who now has a sore hamstring, and another who’s Gorkys Hernandez needs Aaron Hill more than an actual outfielder.
I get that Mac, until that epic AB last night, wasn’t hitting either, but how about bringing up Slater or even Kelby? Nope. We have to have AARON HILL.
The hardheadness and shortsightedness of the Evans/Bochy tandem is just stunning these days.
This all has been stunning for a year now.
is this legit, or still rumor stage?
Mick Fleetwood is going with rumor.
Legit !
There is nothing as magical as the album cover to Buckingham Nicks
Oh please be an untrue rumor. That would make NONE sense.
Alex says Hill and Gillaspie will both be activated on the homestand.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/giants-notes-growing-group-infielders-trying-transition-outfield
Tank!
Bruce, Bobby and Brian seem to be defiantly going all in on the Vet Love tour like never before…seems like either an “FU”, a blind spot, or a huge fear of youth options…I truly get how certain vets helped bring 3 titles, but : Hill, Morse, Ruggiano, Hundley, a close call on Rollins…and even the fringe “elders” like Gorkys, and yes – even Conor.
It’s officially weird
Every time this subject comes up I go back to when those same guys “refused” to play young Craw.
Had to bat Orlando Cabrera lead off instead. Just think, SF had the second worst SS in MLB that year in Tejada…and they actually went out and traded for the one that was worse.
And look at all the injuries that had to happen for Panik to get actual playing time.
I understand that a couple guys are stand out examples of the opposite. I get it. But, do you not find certain present day examples interesting? Look, I also understand the shiny new toys are generally not ready…the knee jerk of going old is getting old in many cases…to me.
I think Hundley is a perfectly cromulent back-up catcher, that signing made sense. And I even liked the Ruggiano signing as a Parker platoon partner, as a guy who only faces LHP. I’m with you though, if Hill comes back and displaces Mac, the brain trust has officially fallen far behind the times.
I agree on Hundley..no doubt. Just more general approach commentary.
great use of “cromulent” !
a former Paul word of day.
Classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcxsgZxqnEg
Lisa-fan, I surmise.
You forgot to add Sabean.
Watching this right now. GREAT stuff. Flann and Lefferts share some fantastic stories. And a young, heavily mustachioed Boch is in this. Ahh the 80s…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-GVrkSmEPs
San Jose had a fun one in Lancaster last night. They have a prospect leading the Cal League in hits:
https://www.milb.com/milb/news/ryan-howard-leads-san-jose-giants-assault-with-four-hits/c-232336802/t-185364810
Howard may be seen as a Top 10 prospect in the system. For Sacramento, Tomlinson, Slater, and Hwang all want to come play with the big boys. They had 7 hits combined. Hwang hit his 2nd triple of the year.
Also noted Sac did this against a Cardinals #1 pick [Weaver] who has a 1.97 ERA and 1.00 WHIP.
In Sac, Hill was the LF so Shaw will slip in there nicely. Waiting for the other moves to “backfill” behind Snelten and Shaw … Fast track for Reynolds?
Reynolds will have to turn up the heat over a prolonged stretch, get more of a power stroke going (hit his 2nd last nite). J Gregs is backsliding. Maybe it will be Beede that gets the first nod. Unless Stratton…
Heath Quinn may jump ahead of Reynolds. Hitting .361 with pop since return.
Agree … I just looked and “The Mighty” is the OF to advance; Third Round pick.
http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=t476&player_id=641991#/career/R/hitting/2017/ALL
come on within, come on without,
you’ve not seen nothin’…
Someone else here gets credit for offering this nickname … it works.
Please- just say no.
CG may be the one to muck it all up. Let him scratch his balls somewhere else. I think that we might see KT AND Hill back up here.And Reynolds up and Okie down.
In need of mental health days- Panik and Arroyo.My guess is Boyo sits today. Baggs hints at a change to do with Christian.
Mac looked pissed for that entire AB and even before and after.Good to see some grit from him.
Best he has looked this year. First few games he was overmatched at the plate. Last night he worked that AB, and good baseball karma gave him the big reward. Good on you, kid.
His comment after the game was disappointing, though.
What did he say?
Something to the effect that until that AB he had been playing it safe in his ABs. On that one, he just decided to let it all hang out. Those were obviously not his exact words.
I sense he has been playing tentative…and that’s a tough way to succeed in the sport…I feel for some of these guys who don’t feel they are on solid footing in Bochy Town. But, those who succeed seem to do their best to ignore it. the rites of passage.
AKA, Bob Belt.
First game he had two hits, 2nd game 1 hit, HR was his first hit since then .
He got some hits on bad ABs, and got overmatched on a few as well. Last night he looked like the Mac we saw last year pre-injury.
I just saw the replay of his HR – can’t believe he got that one over the fence. Off balance and off the end of the bat, wow, that guy does have some pop.
Playing baseball there resembles arena football. It’s a joke.
I think we can all agree that last night was a team loss. We had numerous opportunities to win the game, but we failed in every area. It was another of those 50/50 games, and we got the L.
Let’s have it, Shark. Need the split here, and a Happy Flight home.
Time for some moves.
Let’s give Arroyo a breather from the MLB grind and bring Hwang up here (for homestand). Can we do that? Need a 40 man space.
Nunez with sore hammy? DL? bring up Slater. Still need a 40 man space.
DFA Gorkys. DFA somebody else? Get it done?
To bad in realty, Hill and Gillaspie are expected to be recalled instead .
Are not you a ConorGuy™ or do you like better options now?
Conor is having a bad year, but I am not saying what I would want , I am saying what has been reported by the beat writers, Hill and Gillaspie are coming back probably at start of home stand on Friday .
Yes, I suspect Friday several changes will be made as they return home.
Feels as if a lot of fans are in full Trade-In mode on any and all veterans…they seem very tired of the players of the past….I guess I get the frustration, but the 180 degree shift to All New All The Time isn’t any smarter, and isn’t going to happen. We can be impatient. that’s the 3rd Amendment in the Fan Guide. But SF won by a certain formula, and the organization isn’t ready to abandon it yet.
This bad start has most of our friends on here basically throwing in the towel and wanting every possible prospect up here and playing every day
Balance.
Gorkys is approaching 100 PA’s sitting at .160. Kelby or Slater can do better.
Morse can only play 1B so he cannot stay on the BochyShortBench™
They still have very few games with the First String in there … Pence is still part of the essential core.
Hwang- nope,
You are putting Nunez on the DL because you want to do that?
DFA Gorkys? Gee, that’s the first time I have heard that,
Should see what Hwang has to offer at highest level, or his signing all for not. Time is running out. He may seek opportunity elsewhere.
How is Nunez’ hammy, doctor?
OK, I guess.(Nunez )
Hwang will get his chance. Probably in September. Unless we sell. then in August.
You’re right. Hwang deserves his shot right here. A 20-game stretch in Sacto for Boyo could be a good re-boot. As Lefty said, lotsa DFA potential on the 25-man.
Bumgarner or Chase Johnson could go on the 60-day DL.
On the other hand, there are also many good choices for DFA. So, so many good choices.
I need to brush up…who the hell is Chase Johnson?
100 mph.
Pitcher in AAA, has been both a starter and a closer in the system. He’s on the 40-man roster, but sadly, he just had Tommy John surgery.
Thanks
Hey Red Sox fans: how’s Pablo working out for you? (Snicker)
Not so good, tf?
It’s working out for Pablo
No. Basically two years of mediocre at best baseball. Hasn’t played much this year either. Baseball Karma.
Hullo, Andruw Jones…
Excessive snickering can permanently disfigure one’s mouth. Eating can become a problem. Buy straws.
Was anyone watching as MM texted DeRo when he said Cain should go to SF as trade?
Matt Moore? Michael Morse? Mickey Mouse? Minnie Minoso?
Morse
“What? You trying to get me released?” -MMorse
“…Cain should go to SF as trade?”
Lorenzo Cain?
.Just what the Giants need another .250 hitter with no pop .
Footy likes his demographic appeal, though
Hey now, Wonder Bread.
…with the Juan avatar!
Hablas espanol?
si…poquito.
mi dos…
If KC’s Cain was Wonder Bread would you have such interest in that player? He’s not Ben Zobrist you know.
Kevin Pillar seems like a good “Wonder Bread” option. His heat of the moment slur may cost him a chance to play in SF. Can’t have closet bigots – which probably isn’t even the case, just a habitual slur learned from his big brothers or something.
It’s good to keep track of these things Pete. Right now he is in a slump. Maybe he’s lost something in his swing. He’s usually around .300 with average and the ISO .120 -.150. It’s not there right now. Keep on an eye on him though.
Last year was similar, getting older every day, MLB Trade Rumors had a good write up on this yesterday
At least Span is showing some pop in his swing. Another year on his contract. May not be so bad next year.
Span is a dead pull hitter, so is a good fit for AT&T Power wise, pulls a lot of HRs down the line .
Yeah. I was. Interesting…
DAY GAME!
“Add it up, and …. yeah, I need that GIF of Nuñez almost getting passed up. I decree that the ninth inning was useful and deserved to exist, even if the game was a dumb one overall. Matt Moore should probably stop giving up dingers to Anthony Rizzo, Brandon Belt should bunt more, and that’s the story of how the Giants lost again.
Tune in for the next game, which will start in a few hours.”
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2017/5/24/15688626/sf-giants-cubs-recap
I was waiting for the howls of Nunez showing up Mac on TV….they never came
Having middle of the order hitter’s bunt more , he must be a Giants fan , no other Teams’ fans would want a 6 Foot 5 inch 1st baseman to bunt more .
What’s the over/under (before/after) date for Posey to get another RBI? Hopefully before the all star break.
His Splits look worse every day, with no one on a .420 hitter with a .728 SLG%, with runners on a .255 hitter with a .291 SLG% .
That’s remarkable. Maybe he should bat leadoff, can’t beat .420.
I was thinking that yesterday, when a poster was not happy with Span leading off .
From the youtube link on the 1984 Padres season I posted below, may I offer this quote:
“The story I love to tell is, the Chicago Cubs 3 times had their champagne on ice in their clubhouse. And 3 times they had to wheel it back out before the game was over with, and Doc Mattei, our traveling secretary ended up buying their champagne for half price. So we drank the Cubs’ champagne…it tasted really good.”
– Tim The Effin Flann Man Flannery
1. Denard Span (L) CF
2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
3. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
4. Buster Posey (R) C
5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
6. Eduardo Nunez (R) 3B
7. Justin Ruggiano (R) RF
8. Mac Williamson (R) LF
9. Jeff Samardzija (R) P
Makes sense.
Posey catching a day game after a night game, Bochy must be desperate .
The Oracle will have nothing to say on this matter.
He’ll find another topic from his Bag O’ Bitching
The Oracle is your muse.
And I am his (along with my Love Buddy ClutchUp)
Would you have flipped the defensive players between LF and RF?
No.
Terse!
word of the day!
I blew it, should have added “cat got your tongue?”
Ruggy has been playing mostly in RF, but I think I’d be keeping Mac Williamson in right even before he gets back to Willie Mays Field.
I know that this goes contrary to the conventional thinking here, but I wouldn’t have a problem either way. For today, anyway,
Where do you put your stronger arm?
Center? Wrigley isn’t a huge place, so Mr. Scott is right, today it doesn’t matter much. It is kind of nice to see three OFs in the lineup for a change.
I meant, right or left? Stronger arm, where?
Unless,there are no plans for Pence to play RF again, Mac’s future would be in LF.
I agree, but with Spence out, I expect him to play RF as it needs the stronger arm.
Noted.
I was implying a choice of two, hence stronger, not strongest.
I’ll tell you what- why don’t you make a BFD about it?
I wasn’t. Just wondered where you put your stronger arm, right or left?
Hey, Nunez is good to go. Way to go, doctor. That deep massage must have cured his hammy.
Apparently not. Nunez just scratched, Arroyo back in at 3B, batting eighth.
Chef will have to insert some cloves and brine that bad boy.
Maybe the original LU put a scare in the kid.
Soft Georgia Peach starting behind the dish!!!! MyGuy!
(Note – Soft Georgia Peach is unrelated to Just Peachy)
Lou Gehrig has nothing on him.
Does anyone have a feel for whether Nunez is headed for the DL, or not? If he does have to go out, there might be some creative roster thinking to follow?
Since he tweaked it, I expect him to “protect” it by not giving max effort in LF.
Visions of Angel Pagan
Revised linup, with Boyo hitting 8th, and the Cubs too: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/881f142115a202a8481b2b7575d98f8ea093fba3a3671e9f05ccdc0808923060.png
Buster at Catcher again with a day-after-a-night-game? I like it; Bochy is playing this like postseason as is needed until they reach .500 ball.
Buster probably told Bochy he’s good to go today. He does seem to be determined to play winning baseball again. Yay Buster.
The Bad new Posey is 1 for 11 in his career vs Eddie Butler, the Good news that 1 hit was a 3run HR .
Well, I know that three run HR wasn’t this year, since no one has one. Hopefully Buster can do it again. Samardzija deserves some run support today.
Interesting that the Cubs play Happ in CF. He’s not a burner, came up as 2B, and learning outfield. He’s definitely a hitter. You’d think they have Heyward in CF.
Should be able to score runs off Eddie Butler. But you never know with these Giants. They have a way with their bats.
Eddie Butler learned how to pitch from Gary Lavelle as a kid.
Hasn’t helped much.
Marty Lurie was tweeting about trading for bullpen help. Please, no. It would be pointless.
It is all about Pitching with Marty Lurie .
It’s not a time to trade for any help.
Never trust what a low talker says.
Should have traded Nunez before he got hurt.
He’s on pace to be hurt 8 times this season…the timing is critical !
Gotta anticipate the window.
like they new he was going to be hurt
We ALL knew he was going to get hurt again.
Glad Mac Williamson is in the lineup. A little power can make a big difference. Boom, and they were right back in that game.
I’m waiting to see if he has truly eschewed the safe approach to hitting. I think he’s on the edge right now of becoming a ML player or rides off at dusk to another career.
This SFG team better come out with some fire today.
Or what?
They’ll be 12 games back.
Luke warm will do.
Baseball games are getting longer, even with the rules change. It turns out a major contributor is how long pitchers hold the ball after they come set. It also seems they buy a velocity increase with that delay, that results in about one win a year.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/pitchers-are-slowing-down-to-speed-up/
Since there’s a winner and loser in every game, I guess only half the teams are gaining that one win.
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