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GreekGiant
Today’s Game: Cardinals (77-71) Vs Giants (79-69), 4:05 pm at Willie Mays Field:
Alex Reyes (2-1, 1,29) vs Albet Suarez (3-3, 4.20)
Let’s pretend last night’s game didn’t happen. Today, the Giants strive for a season series win against the Cardinals of St. Louis. I mention the season series because it could be a potential home field decider if these two ballclubs face-off in a Wild Card Game playoff. The Giants enter the day 5 games behind the dreaded bums of Los Angeles for the division lead and tied with the Mets for the Wild Card lead in the standings.
Goodness knows what Bochy and Righetti have prepped for us come bullpen time. This will be the third career start for Mr. Reyes after taking Jaime Garcia’s place in the rotation. Recall recent seasons when Garcia was a rotation stalwart for the Cards.
The starting lineups:
Meet Matt Cain: Our New Closer?
There are 13 more games left in the season baseball fans. You have to wonder at this point if the Giants have the emotional wherewithal to shut out all the recent disappointing losses and heartbreaks. I know I don’t. I imagine Bochy will be exploring more match-ups with the relief corps as he tries to keep the bullpen confident. It has come up in conversation in Giants nation and around the internet: How about Matt Cain as closer? Well, let’s have a look at some interesting career stats for our beloved number 18.
First, in 307 2/3 innings pitched in the first inning, his ERA is 3.66 and he has allowed 254 hits, 128 walks and he has recorded 245 strikeouts, per Baseball Reference.
Second, in high leverage situations, Cain’s BABIP is .265… The verdict on Cain as closer: Well, it’s worth a look because we are desperate. The question: Is game 149 the right time to try this experiment?
What Is A Closer?
When I was reflecting on Bochy’s predicament concerning the closer role I wanted to examine the different attributes of what defines the closer.
Here is a list I came up with, Feel free to add to it in the comments:
- Must be comfortable, or excel in high-leverage situations
- Must throw strikes in your first appearance/inning
- Must be able to pitch on consecutive days effectively
- Must be able to forget or shake off bad outings
- Should be able to get swings and misses
Time for a Drink With Surf Maui
It looks like a beautiful day at Willie Mays Field. SurfMaui is coming over to watch the game with me at my place. I am making a Chambermaid for the occasion. Since he doesn’t drink, I will have mine and his.
My Recipe:
3 parts Bombay Sapphire
3 parts fresh squeezed pink grapefruit juice
2 parts St. Germain
muddled mint leaves
garnish with a slice of cucumber
pour into highball glass filled with ice cubes
The result: Heaven!
One last thing: Thanks for all the amazing comments and stories on The Whiteness in Baseball. SurfCity wrote me a scathing critique which I have responded to. I appreciate all your perspectives. Go Giants!
* Must get a chance
I didn’t read much last night but did any of the beat guys actually press Bochy on his decision to use Casilla? Or just typical roll over and accept what he says?
Soft questions, no real follow up.
Alex is usually direct and succinct with his quotes. I miss Alex.
These press conferences are a waste of time. You never get real info from a manager and they are simply a part of the traditional media rituals for content filler. I honestly feel for professional athletes, especially managers who have to keep going through these empty motions. How would you like to have your ever move questioned after a bad day at work, in full public view? It’s ridiculous and I am surprised more managers don’t go the full Lee Elia…
Schulman and Baggs were off yesterday , I’m sure one of them would have pressed him
Carl is actually pretty good about asking some tough questions.
He did say “if that grounder was a foot or so the other way, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.”
If he hadnt allowed the tying run to steal second and walked the go ahead run we wouldnt be having the discussion either
If SurfMaui ever sees Casilla pitching for the Giants again in a significant situation (except perhaps in my nightmare dreams replaying the season in my mind and wondering where we would be with even an average closer) Surf Maui may start drinking
As much as Casilla deserved the L, we lost this game because Span can’t throw runners out. Ever.
@susanslusser
Bochy says Law, Strickland both could be in mix for closing right now. Casilla, too;
lol Bochy said Casilla made good pitches last night
Of course he did.
Right. Full count pitch to Yadi, in your face to Grichuk. There were some good pitches, and some bad ones. Bottom line, the loss is yours, 46.
I was just going to say, I bet Grichuk really thought that pitch right at his head was a “good pitch.” There’s a part of me that’s glad Grichuk made Casilla pay for that.
Just wow. Passive aggressive or Aggressive Passive?
I’m not exactly sure what Romo was grinning about last night when he was removed from the game, but it might be shadenfreude over the fact that Casilla was coming into the game to a chorus of boos from the fans and relief that it wasnt him. May not have been intended to show Bovy up, but either was was inappropriate.
My guess is that it was one of those nervous laughter-type reactions from embarrassment and failure that happen to us all in critical situations. I am sure he was disappointed and I know he will bounce back.
I hope Lefty is impressed by the use of shadenfreude
I was! But the spelling is “schadenfreude”.
spell correct failure– check out the brain on George
He’s a mod’s mod.
This year’s Willie Mac Award winner. Not too many other candidates. If I had to choose a player it would be Crawford or Cueto I guess
Cueto
I’d give it to Duffy in fond remembrance.
If Estes and Affledt both thought that, I’d worry other players did as well. In the clubhouse, not public, someone needs to sort it out post haste.
Do you really think that no one in the clubhouse has a problem with what Bochy’s doing?
I don’t know. Dump Socrates TO, it’s blasphemy in your hands.
I honestly worry more about the clubhouse reaction to the move than the Romo reaction
It was my impression that his grinning was considered “showing Bochy up” and Shawn Estes kind of went off in the post-game show; which Jeremy Affeldt agreed with him.
I absolutely think Romo was showing Bochy up, and I don’t blame him one bit. Romo got demoted from closer in 2014 and was a really good soldier about it–and he had a LOT less leash than Casilla’s had. Meanwhile he and everyone else are watching Bochy let/make Casilla throw the season away. I’d be frustrated and pissed if I were any of them, and considering Romo’s history, I’d really be disgusted if I were him. He gets an out, gives up a softly hit single–and it was a good pitch, not a hanger–and that’s it? Leash pulled?
Probably knows he’s done, and that actions such as that will not endear him to the fan base. It’s telling that his frustration–and that of other players in the clubhouse, IMHO–caused him to react in thst manner.
Eight seasons as a Giants bullpen mainstay, solid and popular player most of his career, he boils over. Says a lot.
But, Lefty…as a teammate and a member of a TEAM, still in playoff position, you cannot show public anarchy like that. I understand his frustration, but you just can’t …..you just can’t
I know…I get it…I just sympathize with him and his teammates, and it’s a bit refreshing to have someone be honest about what’s going on for once.
Bochy…”and Sergio Romo won’t be pitching the the Giants the rest of this season. And that’s what’s up!” (kidding)
He was not but how would you know….
Let one of these sterling sports journalist that infest Giants land ask him.
JOE NATHAN should be our closer. I don’t care if he is 99 years old. The Dude is borderline hall of famer and been in closing situations for over a decade. USE HIM YOU BOCHY YOU BIG DUMMY!! You love vets. He’s a vet.
Should be Law in the 9th. Case closed.
I know you were just suggesting, GG, but Cain is not the closer solution. he takes to long to get going.
I honestly think they should consider 3 man rotation (if/when they get in the playoffs) and use The Shark as their closer.
That cocktail sounds really, really good. I may have to hit the store before the game.
Baggarly tweeted that Bochy was asked about using Blanco and Hernandez as defensive replacements. He said he plans to “go with our guys.”
It’s his way of saying “Fuck off Baggs!”
I wonder how the other guys who are not “our guys” feel about some players being “our guys” and other players being…I don’t know..garden gnomes?
When did Blanco become not one of “our guys?”
Right?!
Oops, stepped on this up top. Sorry! Didn’t see it
Hate to tell you but there is no defense against a Casilla walk
That’s just weird…
Why would he go with “our guys” that can’t judge fly balls and can’t throw? This is getting bizarre
When you’re talking about “our guys,” how is Blanco not included? Blanco’s defense, and sometime use for defense in the late innings, was a big part of their success?
You mean that guy who was in the OF every game of the 2012 and 2014 World Series? That guy?
He’s probably still not 100%, but if not then put in Gorkys! I mean, Bochy and Wotus had to see that coming, yes? Anything on the ground in CF, its first and third with one out.
Why would you substitute them in the ninth when, with Casilla pitching in a (blown) save situation you know that you will need your best bats in the bottom of the ninth
You’re kidding, right? Pagan and Span are hitting in the .100s in September. Gorkys Hernandez is hitting better than the two of them put together.
It is known as sarcasm
However Blanco is hitting about .100 for the season
Yeah, I’m not arguing for ABs for Blanco, but…who knows?
Span’s top of the 9th was more damaging than his bottom of the 9th was rewarding. Pagan’s Top 9 was saved by Crawford. Our OF defense causes us lots of runs….and we haven’t had a single comeback 9th inning with those bats all year….I think saving runs is showing as very important late
George– please lock up the knives and scissors at your house in case Casilla takes off his jacket
hahaha You go it! I will also lock the windows and balcony doors…No jumping in my house!
Romo, 2014: 23-28 save opps–82%
6-4, 3.72 ERA, O.948 WHIP, FIP 3.94, ERA+ 93
Casilla, 2016: 31-40 save opps, 78%
2-5, 3.72 ERA, 1.240 WHIP, FIP 4.04, ERA+ 110
Yeah, I can see why Romo’s over this nonsense.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/17/giants-fan-bryan-stow-thanks-valley-med-for-recovery/
Photo of the day.
Any chance we can trade Casilla to the Cardinals before the game?
I wonder how the guys that aren’t in the “our guys” group feel about their part in this fight to the finish…..
Hard not to roll over at this point. That clubhouse can’t be a good place to be today.
I knew it wouldn’t take long for Gabbert to regress to the Blaine
He blows and we all know it
Too much humidity and not enough Kaepernick. It’s like sitting next to somebody wearing (still) too much patchouli oil – and her trying to convince you it really smells good.
Gamble needs to replace Baalke as does Kap needs to replace the Blaine.
I agree on both counts…
Gabbert running in for the score! 31-20, 12-1/3 mins. left. To re-use their phrase from the, I think, ’78 team: Roaring back!
They won’t quit under Kelly.
As of 2016 the number of words in the English language is : 1,035,877.3.
I can’t wait to see which core-gutting descriptive words some of our early imbibers – blog leaders uses today to describe Bochy. Maybe – we will hit new lows and his head will explode in the dugout after a wishful “stupid” or “old coot” comes sliding out the side of the mouth.
this lineup looks like the rearranging of deck chairs on the titanic… if they somehow win this game, Span will lead off the rest of the month (big sigh)
I think Span is hurting the team almost as much as letting Casilla pitch in the 9th. If they want to compete in 2017 they will have to eat that contract.
moving Panik around every time he goes 0 for 4 is… is… well, #^*}£¥
Right? Span went what, 1 for 40 or something, before he finally got moved down in the order for three whole days.
What a player Panik is. Bochy treats him like a mutt.
Great hustle out there in LF! Not.
Surf city is a piece of work, so that’s my critique.
Keep truckin’
LOL at you calling someone a piece of work. Pot, meet Kettle.
And I actually say that with affection.
A piece of work lol Finch, i can tell that you hv some bro friends with that kind of chatter.
I love Gel Head but the 3 spot is like a big ol donut hole my goodness gracious but someone has to hit there.
Vance McDonald! Niners within a touchdown inside 8:00 to play in Q4.
Then he dropped another one….then Blaine happened.
They hung tough. Good job, Niners
Span leading off again i guess the pout face worked. Bochy is ready to end the season now he can’t be serious with this line up wow.
Don’t be such a hater, Slikk. He hit a fly ball instead of a grounder to second this time!
(On this one, you and I agree.)
Lol
Something has definately changed with Bochy but i cant put my finger on it. Health issues will definately force you to make strange decisions that you normally would not make. Wouldn’t be surprised if he resigned after 162.
The Casilla situation is the strangest thing I’ve ever seen in all my years of watching baseball. Even Dusty Baker in his most head-scratching moments was never this wrong for this long.
Evans needs to make a move and save Bochy from himself.
Bingo 2.0
I say WE do it. We go get Casilla and stash him somewhere until the season is over. We don’t hurt him or anything. We just remove the temptation.
I’m in.
We’re going to need Anti-Lasorda (he’s big) and/or The Oracle (he’s a trained professional). Maybe Slikk–he could bring his truck for the, um, removal.
Let’s enlist Slikk to ship him to Miami. That’s far enough away.
Greek Giant and Surf Maui can meet him on the other end and babysit him until the season is over.
Whats the Oracle a trained professional at?
He’s a police officer.
Active or retired?
Active, didn’t you read his post about pulling in behind student drivers to help them learn to perform under stress?
You dont hv to tell me twice
Or put him in a Fed Ex plane!
Pacific island with a volleyball….”Casilla!!!!! Casiiiiiiillllaaaaa!!!!”
( just kidding)
Ok Mr Hanks
Bingo
I’m starting a petition to make Brandon Belt our new closer. Who’s with me?
Great job with that new old lineup, Boch. Six pitches. Way to get off on the right foot.
Cards STUNG the ball in the first. Could be a long day at the yard…
Bochy couldn’t take spans pouting in the 8 hole anymore.
If you polled the pitchers, I wonder who would be on the “our guys” list for outfielders. I bet it wouldn’t be the same list Bochy has.
Well that was slick.
You called!
That’s funny. I thought the same thing!
I was wondering why she intentionally misspelled my name darnit!
It wasn’t intentional…darn auto-correct.
Lol
Hahahahahaha
Yup. Nuñez has really come around too, and this IF is rife with slick guys. What a waste.
I loved that long bounce throw to Belt. Perfect. Nunez has clearly figured out he’s got a good glove on the other end of those throws and knows what he can do. Pablo used to call Belt “The Pick Machine.”
Hard to call balls and strikes when you are seeing double. Hope he is OK quickly.
Hell just guess!
Isn’t that what they do anyway?
Yes
Does Pence hold the record for fouling balls off people’s faces this year?
lol
Goofy dudes like Pence are dangerous company.
Got word Romos’ antics on the mound and in the dug out last night did not set up well with teammates in the clubhouse. Personally, I would be very surprised if he sees another inning as a Giant. That’s just my opinion.
Where do you get the “word?”
Can’t go there right now.
Yeah, right.
I did tell you Suarez was starting for Cain a couple weeks ago.
Reckon that qualifies you for “Oracle Dos.”
Fluster Hosey? Lon Potus?
Crave Spaghetti?
Maybe you identify your source in general terms? Does his name rhyme with Lyin’ Arabian?
Mr. Conspiracy Theory.
Har-de-har.
Is it a rumor or an opinion?
Gabbert gakked away a possible win for the Niners today. Sigh…
Those picks were horrendous
Kap will be behind center after about 4 games. People who talk about his accuracy issues haven’t watched Gabbert…
Yeah Blaine Gabbert looked more like Jimmy Gabbert today.
Threw it right to the defender.
Meanwhile, Michigan has gone from 5-7 to #4 in the nation in 16 games.
These guys just won’t stop diving into first base.
Only time you should dive is to avoid a tag on a bad throw.
Or in the WS when you’re playing against us and trying to beat the most epic DP ever.
Nunez is entertaining on the basepath. As in unpredictable. Hard to look away. Fast but a little goofy.
He should give Pagan running lessons.
Don’t slide into first
Terrifying.
Unless you’re Eric Hosmer.
Didn’t work out that time.
Exactly. 😉
Matheny is to challenges to baseball as Andy Reid challenges are in football
Hope Panik has the game of his life today
I hope Brown does, too
Him too but I just want Panik to stick in the 2 hole and stay there. Span and Pagan back to back is just a rally killer.
Gamer Babe? Maybe during WWII.
My first pick in the National Horseshoe League draft would be Span…he is perfect at underhand 30 foot tosses….
Here’s Baggs’ pregame with Bochy’s comments about Casilla and the outfielders. Read it and groan.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/18/giants-notes-bruce-bochy-once-again-removes-santiago-casilla-from-closer-role/
Thanks! I love good fiction.
That’s some Pulitzer-worthy stuff.
Bochy won’t use Casilla anymore at home because he’s gauged the boos to be detrimental to a good performance. But in a few days he’ll use him on the road where the cheers that greet him in the closing role should improve his performance ability. Ok?
So the boos last night distracted him. What about the other 12 times? Imaginary boos?
If I’m Bochy I give him a pair of ear plugs. Problem solved.
I’d never heard of St. Germaine before…flower liqueur.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/st-germain-liqueur_n_1590006.html
Will Matt Cain be back with the Giants next season?
I $ay ye$
His contract says so.
Must have to be a closer:
Incriminating pictures of the manager.
He has naked pics of Bochy’s wife
How come every time Krukow says something, the opposite happens…
This HR was a location mistake by Suarez but I’m just not a fan of Brown’s pitch-calling
They should probably look for a more experienced backup catcher, but it’s fair to point out that Brown IS a rookie and wasn’t even exclusively a catcher in college or the minors. Still learning. Has the best mentor there is.
The problem is he’s not going to get the experience he needs while riding the bench. Just like whatever value Hector could have brought got flushed the minute it was decided he was the “only catch Lincecum” guy. Every part of his game got choked out.
Makes Hector Sanchez look good.
Hector looked REALLY good as he kicked our butts around our own yard the other night–caught a shutout, three hits, dagger HR.
No argument from me. I wonder sometimes if playing behind Posey doesn’t get some guys wondering and not trusting they have skills.
I was in the camp that liked Hector. He was Buster’s primary backup in his MVP season, had some huge clutch hits over the years, caught a no-hitter, came one strike from catching a perfect game. He was a good Giant.
Think of the back up catchers of recent times in comparison…Sanchez, Susac, Whiteside, Stewart, Quiroz….
I simply don’t see the organizations fascination with a light hitting catcher who is spotty on defense and nowhere near MLB at pitch calling/pitcher management. I know we’re spoiled by Buster.
Brown isn’t ready. Susac is gone. Bad combo. Thanks, Evans
The big problem: (a) no good free agent wants to sign here and be blocked by Posey and (b) they don’t want to use draft picks on great catchers who will be blocked by Posey. So they can’t buy ’em and they won’t grow ’em.
From here, letting Hector walk and dumping Susac in the Will Smith trade was short-sighted.
You may be right.
Which makes no sense (draft) ….I mean, we have the best shortstop around, and we draft them like crazy.
But then we don’t let them have them short, so it’s OK. Short stops are by and large great athletes and are adaptable to other infield positions. Seems to be the Giants’ philosophy. Not saying I agree with it, but it seems to be the pattern.
It’s short sighted, though, to go lean on drafting a position based on the MLB talent.
It’s that ‘best athlete’ way of thinking, I suspect.
It is…and I get it. But they are so short sighted recently about positions of need. Brown being the only young talent at C is not remotely acceptable.
That’s been a problem for years. IMO, there is only one solution sadly…lose enough to get better options in the draft.
Given as much scrutiny as Sabean got, I wonder why Evans is almost a ghost in the press and media in general.
Suarez gives up two runs every game. So no problem with that. The real problem is we only score zero runs, maybe one.
3 runs, 5 innings…it’s how he rolls
0 runs, 1 run. 9 innings. It’s how we roll.
Ten starts before today–2 or 3 runs in all of them. Never more than three (hope I don’t jinx him). That’s remarkably consistent for a fifth starter and way better than our highly paid dugout ornaments.
You liked that one, huh?!
I did! 🙂
Dugout ornaments. I like it.
Hat-tip to Matthew on the previous thread. He said it and I stole it.
The problem isn’t the runs, it’s the 5 innings, and it isn’t his fault. If there were guys in the pen who could reliably do their jobs it would be all good.
5-6 innings is pretty good for a fifth starter, though.
Ty Blach is an innings-eater. I’d love to see him get a chance at the #5 spot next year.
Giants pitchers don’t trust Brown
Don’t try to fix something that’s not broken. *Cough* Bochy *cough* lineup
I’m wondering if charcoal pills might help on yet another expected Casilla Hangover Day
Today’s line up is rank.
Bochy has 18 unique hooks in his tackle box. No two are remotely alike
That Isihikawa homer still gives me chills.
The CSN Feel Good Highlight Package isn’t working to distract me today.
I was just thinking the same thing. It is getting on my nerves, in fact. Feels like a desperate ploy to manipulate fan emotions.
Same reaction. Seeing those fans go nuts after Ishi’s HR just made me feel sad this time. There’s been a lot more frustration than joy at the ballpark this season.
I think they’ve showed the KD first pitch about 68 times since he threw it.
Better get someone up in the bullpen. He’s probably getting tired.
Those boos yesterday got the Giants a little goosy in Giants Central Command. They’re overdoing that we are Giants, past highlights, nonsense. Show a montage of those games lost in late innings this year by an under performing bullpen instead.
Rod Beck pitching out of a jam just reminds me that we don’t have a closer who can do that anymore. 🙁
Weirdly, Casilla has not let a single inherited runner score this season. It makes zero sense. Can’t close out a game, but has come in several times with RISP and shut it down. Baseball is annoying as hell.
P.R. damage control.
Yeah, I understand the reason, but it’s just obfuscating and in the end, making a problem worse. IMO, the reason people were aghast at the 9th inning yesterday was they don’t understand the real deficiencies of this team, and why some decisions are forced because the options are just, if not more, chancy.
That’s projecting the results of guys who have either been given no chance, or a very short chance. Bruce has changed and has turtled like never before
As you might have guessed, I don’t agree.
Cory!!!
I don’t know what they expect from fans though. Everyone’s delusionally in denial it seems. Must be nice.
Where’s Tim Flannery? Miss the dude.
Most fans simply, IMO, misunderstand the reality that is this team. They don’t win by talent, but by being smarter as a team than their opposition.
I swear: post apocasillalypse performance is what I expected…and what I’m seeing.
How’s that clubhouse, boys?
They miss Juan4Juan Perez and Travis I am only half Japanese Ishikawa
Yup…and Morse, and Affeldt. And Flannery. And a few others. The pack doesn’t look the same
You can hear it in Kuiper’s voice. Flat as a pancake, just like our lineup.
Ok I just had my second Chambermaid and I’m still not feeling better about this game! SurfMaui has resorted to examining the height of my second floor for a potential jump….
Context is everything. Let’s remind everyone that in this case, a “Chambermaid” is a gin-based cocktail (recipe above). Just reading the comment in isolation…yeah…
Hahahah
……how do you know that? 🙂
That deserves several plus-ups. Made me laugh out loud (daughter asked what I was laughing at. Don’t worry honey. I’ll tell you when you’re older). Cheered up my mood from watching the “getting excited for October vacations” at AT&T.
I’ve had many LOL moments while reading this blog. Also “Scream in Disbelief” (SID) and “Gasp in Horror” (GIH).
That too.
His conclusion is it wouldn’t kill him…
I figured its only about 15 feet– only enough to break some bones and not likely to kill me unless Casilla came to give me first aid in which case he’d undoubtedly kill me.
Good grief, we just got you out of that boot. No jumping and no more broken bones.
BBut you’d get a new lucky boot! We could sure use a new mojo. C’mon Surf, take one for the team!
Don’t jump, Surf!!!
No blue pills needed in the Greek house
Not necessary for me– cant speak for GG
3 olive martini time…
Alex Reyes has legit No Hit stuff. Be early in the B5th and drag or push bunt before the late innings.
98 MPH fast ball and a change up that has a 13 mph differential.
I would trade any postition player for Carpenter not named Panik or Crawford
Carpentar transformed himself I think when he gave up power for contact and bat control, and actually got dividends in both, power and average. He is one smart cookie. He would be the perfect Giant.
Three outs Thatta Babe Suarez
Need a “little bingo” in the Bth
Suarez is pitching his nads off. Damn hitters better quit looking at strike three and get him a win.
Seems like he’s been the victim of blown saves a lot….
Wait. Everyone has. Never mind
Agreed because any minute now Reyes is going to start sniffing the barn
Right on CJ.
We’re making Reyes look like Bob Gibson!
Their farm system is stellar and Reyes is the best of their best.
98 with a filthy changeup
That’s pretty much with every pitcher they haven’t seen. He his the Cards #1 pitching prospect though
There’s always that one guy on a rival opposition….
Molina
Bochy should send Nunez.
Ok just kidding. Not necessary
🙂
Nunez has the green light (needs no sign)
Nunez 2-2. No, we don’t need that guy hitting leadoff. He’s not one of “our guys,” you see.
stay in the here and now
Still no hits to the outfield
Playing hurt and he’s 2X Span.
Joe12 SF
Maybe the Giants need all of Greeks extra Chambermaids.
Slumpbuster Services
You had better get the patent on that name
Bad Trevor Brown
You’re killing me Brown
No plate discipline. Absolutely zero.
Terrible situational AB.
Bad Conor
C’mon Mr. Happy. Make me love you.
That is an old Johnny Cash song
The one-pitch pop-up. His specialty. Unbelievable.
He is good at that, for sure.
We all have our targets…or a few (* cough* Span *cough*) but Trevor is NotMyGuy
Pathetic offense
Swing at the first pitch. Absolutely no plate discipline by brown or Connor. Zero.
Brutal.
Neither one of them could have done anything productive with either pitch.
Make the pitcher work!
Just wasted Suarez for a one pitch foul out… Runner at second, no outs and can’t score.
The Bobby Thomson home run highlight pool:
I guess 7th inning
Knowing the Giants, they’ll do nothing about the offense. They need a power bat in left.
Molina is the key to Reyes. Both Panik’s fly ball and Brown and Gillaspie’s balls were off of changeups.
Sitting Poesy today when he was hot was BS and it just came back to bite them. Bochy said it was so he could have a day off and start all the LA games, just stupid…If you win today, you probably guarantee yourself a WC spot. Lose, and the WC is totally up for grabs, and the division is one less game possible. Winning the division is now minor miracle territory. If Buster PHits today, then he could have played
This is the “Casilla Effect”. This is what and how the Giants look like after Casilla blows a game; especially when you consider how great the defense was last night. Now, they look like they could use a Capri Sun and a nap.
If I had the time, I would love to look up the record and results of all the games after Casilla blew the save.
Any takers?
Oh for the season I am sure
That would be correct
I think they’re 2-7 in Casilla Blows Game
Got to count the 2nd and 3rd games after the blown saves too.
At that point, too many to list!
Games he blew or the one after?
and a real Chambermaid ….
Definitely by the book. Blown save = next day shit fest.
Bullpen collapse followed by weeklong offensive slumps have been the story of the second half. The irony is that bullpen is always lights out during the offensive slumps
Corey should have kept his Samson and Goliath locks…. The snarl doesn’t work with short hair.
Without my glasses on, with the new short hair and the beard, I thought he was Kontos when I first saw him standing there. Of course, then he threw and the motion is completely different.
Just what we need, another set of matched relievers. I have a hard enough time with Strickland, Osich and Smith. (Sounds like a law firm.)
Yumm
Hahaha…the old ball dude almost gave the ball to the chick with the boobs falling out of her shirt, but caught himself at the last minute ad remembered there were little kids around and gave it to a kid.
Boob Cramp
Saw that too
How pointless are Amy G’s reports?
Yeah but those sexy shoulders are worth it!
Comcast or Giant Productions have a format matrix that they follow….
But yeah
She has a sneaky-hot rack. Needs to show more cleavage
Would we rather see Sherry Davis or Renel giving the reports…. 🙂
That dope Renel got a WS ring for being a crappy PA announcer.
Gotta be honest: I really like the bare shoulders. Just sayin’…
Met her in Petaluma with husband Paul Gutierrez – Raider scribe. Paul’s a nice guy. Two kids
Very grounded family
Amy does her job – Nice lady
KS
AZ 6 LA 1. B5
Close Cropped Corey does good – Nice job Mr. Short Hair
Please Boch, leave him in for awhile. Heck, let him hit if we get there.
Time to do some damage G-men.
How do you figure the 15 WS champs play terrible most of the season and then right after the AS break they cannot be beat and then …………. they return to playing poorly. Does Bochy’s brother scout for KC? ;-/
Top of the order. Do work
Single by my guy #2
Amazing!
Pagan NEEDS a day ….I think ….
No way, he’s Bochy’s guy
JoBu says Pagan needs a chambermaid
Really?
Fosh ball Dipsy Doozle
Doesn’t surprise me. Pagan’s always been a guy that rides the momentum in the clubhouse.
and at home with Miss Windy
Really? a three and 0 green lite?
Yes. Good chance to get a fastball he can handle.
I think he’s 3-4 lifetime on 3-0 green lights with 2HR
Almost Runs Thrown In right there
Ball dude almost screwed the pooch.
Let’s go Pence!!
I know I’m going to sound like a total hater, but Span was totally not hustling on that play. He just stopped running and trotted into third.
Did you see him sprint to second on the dribbler
The BALL went into the STANDS Proff
You are correct
I was wondering the same thing. No, you’re spot on.
………..The ball went into the camera well
I agree but he would’ve been thrown out at home if he tried to score
The ball went into the camera well
If he’s running hard to third he *might* get the one + one base call and be allowed to score, because the ball definitely went out of the field of play.
He was lollygagging around 2B when the throw went past 1B. I couldn’t believe he didn’t score on that play.
Damn 0 and 2
Pence reverting back to flailing at pitches off the plate.
Flailing is the key word agreed
Com’on belt.
With a two nothing lead and the SL infield playing back ALL Hunter has to do is HIT a ball on the ground that is not at the pitcher and the run is scored and it is 2-1
Was that Lincecum in the Cards bullpen? Lol
Quckly– trade Casilla to the Cards
C’mon, Belt. Be a hero.
I’ll take get it to Nunez.
Nunez time
Man Giants just can’t pick up Reyes’ changeup at all
C’mon Nunez. Bases loaded. Just lean into the pitch.
Com’on nunez.
So close to breaking through.
Dag nabbit.
Another first pitch zero patience non productive out hack. WTF
Very hittable pitch…why take it?
Agreed but fans is short for fanatic
Yep. They had the kid on the ropes. Make him work.
Belt made him work agreed, but the next ML type guy is taught to look first pitch strike and he got what he wanted.
But, he had already , Lefty. It was a Hit Me and Nunez just missed it. I was fine with it. He’s aggressive by nature
Teams preach to swing at hittable pitches early and often and other teams like to work counts. I think our team make up would be better suited at working counts. We just aren’t productive on a 0-0 count.
This year as a team, they are hitting .346/.350/.534 on 0-0 counts. I’d say an .885 OPS is pretty productive.
Must have got something center cut so he thought…but Reyes duped him
He got a great pitch to hit. He is a KEEPER for a long time with his speed.
To anxious right there.
Pence HAD TO get one run home via a productive out…
As much as I hate to say it, I’m sniffing a split, 1 game behind the Mets and still 5 back of the Bums.
I’m sniffing a shi….never mind
I’m excited because my good buddy has a box at Citifield and I’m gonna be there if the WC is in NYC
What is on the foodie menu there?
the new rage is the Fuku counter from David Chang of Momofuku fame. Has an terrific fried chicken sandwich. It’s in the same are as Shake Shack and a terrific beer bar (where you can get anything BUT a cheap bud or miller).
Pat the penguin guys, hit what you see and quit guessing. Your just not as smart as Molina.
God thank you from somebody who remembers what it was like to play
He runs that staff like an extension of himself.
How many aggregate runs have the Giants scored in tne games after the 9 Casilla blown saves abd 5 losses?
The Molina family has really produced some talent
Name that Molina! All three have WS rings, Bengie and Yadi more than one.
Which family with more total talent? Griffey; Bonds; Molina, Alou, Maddux, Perry or Mays?
in numbers Molina, but no tow Molina are the equal of Bonds and his dad. Not even close.
The Alous outstrip the Molinas
Actually maybe the Boone family but I will go with:
-Bonds
-Griffey
-Alou
Mays only had his dad play baseball
Between the 3 brothers I see at least 2 more Molinas getting to the big leagues.
Jed Gyro – I would shorten my name if it were
Reyes is done
ARZ 7-3 T6
Got Heem.
Listless day on offense after a blown save loss the night before.
I think I’ve seen this one before.
+ no BP again
soft team mentally
I would agree. Most major leaguers turn the page after the game
I said after the AS game that something was missing from the Giants 2016 puzzle
Some physical
Some mental
Some managerial
Too many moving parts as well.
the lack of closer was the one main missing piece. This team was never going to be at the top of the league in hitting but it had decent pitching. Then with the addition of Moore, dropping Shark and adding Saurez, the pitching is arguably better.
Cory “I’m Not An Option” Gearrin looking mighty fine
He’s fed up with the bull crap and taking it to the mound. Wants to get on Bochys good side after Romos antics last night.
He’s a guy to me monitored because his delivery release is a tough go for his elbow and Ulnar nerve area.
When he is on = nobody better
Wow, he was awesome. Looked GREAT. I like that guy. Hope he’s a locked-in part of the future.
Romo 2.0.
Wonder if we’ll see Sergio again this season.
I hope so. Casilla acted up a lot worse and he just got to keep being the closer.
see ya
New closer
Arroyo ONLY Giant in top 100
http://inningseaters.sportsblog.com/posts/25827261/sf-giants-farm-system-lacks-top-prospects–christian-arroyo-lone-top-100.html
the state of the farm is embarrassing and a big concern. Perhaps the team FO needs to rethink their drafting philosophy and shake it up a bit. It’s not an easy fix, but they need to make a change.
They’re also one of the only teams that never trade to restock the farm. They hold on to all veterans in even losing seasons, not attempting to get any young blood for them. Holding on to someone like Lopez in 2013 was just ridiculous.
Ha. Giants don’t respond to inspiration. Hope I’m wrong.
Reyes imposter still in the game
Low pitch count. Why not.
He’s had an arm issue but you are right
Need to get to Reyes this inning
Panik = another early count out
Yes.
He has sacrosanct status at the moment.
To coin a phrase…knuckle down, buckle down and do it, do it, do it.
Bear down even, or is it bare down
It’s bend over for the Giants.
Hit the weight room Trevor
Warning track power.
This will be a three-pitch see ya.
!!!!
97 mph and a 85 mph change up
MY GOD
9 pitch inning – yuck
Another glaring weakness that doesn’t get talked about enough: Lack of depth.
Giants have depth, don’t use it. That was the first time Parker had an at bat in a week or more.
Parker is not depth, not a good roster. Neither is Brown and a handfull of other players on this team. That’s especially glaring when some of the starters have their issues.
Parker & Mac combined for 11 HRs and 1.5 WAR when Pence was out. That’s actually not bad. The Giants were winning then, too.
Gracias.
that just tells me that the team was clicking and everyone was riding the wave (even Connor and Green helped out!!!).
I doubted then that production was sustainable.
Well, it isn’t sustainable when you send them to AAA and then glue them to the bench. I’m pretty sure you have to actually play sometimes to produce.
Seems Gorkys is a good sub in the outfield. But only gets to play when a regular is ailing. And Kelby could play 3rd, but it is always Conner.
On full display as one of MLB’s worst umpires, I give you Laz Diaz.
Oisch = lefthanded Casilla
Lefty on Lefty
Dodgers tie the game up
Casila must have pitched for the Dbacks
They’re sniffing that division title.
Giants after Casilla meltdowns. The first date is the meltdown, then the day after. I counted the nine blown saves, the game in Colorado which should have been charged as a blown save, and two losses where Casilla got the ball in a tie game and gave up the winning run.
That’s 12 games. They lost 10 of them. 8 of the 12 went extra innings. The surprising news is that they’ve won more than they’ve lost “the day after.” However, three of the more brutal blown saves were followed by losing streaks of at least four games.
It’s also really striking that this has been going on all season long–from April 9 to last night–and how many of them are in September. Amazing, really.
April 9 (L, 10): April 10 W 9-7
April 18 (L, 11): April 19 L 0-3 (the meltdown began a 4-game AZ sweep at AT & T)
May 11 (W, 13); May 12 W 4-2
June 1 (L, 11), June 2 W 6-0
June 7 (L, 10), June 8 W 2-0
June 10 (L), June 11 W 4-3
July 16 (L, 10), July 17 L 3-5 (lost four straight after the Balk-Off)
August 17 (L), Aug 18 L 3-5 (lost three straight)
Sept. 4 (L, 13), Sept 5 L 0-4
Sept. 7 (L), Sept. 8 W 7-6
Sept. 9 (W, 12) Sept. 10 W 11-3
Sept. 17 (L), Sept. 18 ???
Nice work dr. thanks so much
It was your question below that got me curious.
Like I said the Giants were 0 for the season after Casilla blown saves.
So, The Casilla Effect has had an effect on the whole season, yet the Giants had baseball’s best record at the break.
I just don’t understand that.
Besides the W-L effect, there’s all the extra innings he’s forced the team to play.
True. That plus the offense can take some blame too. At least in the second half.
Great work. The duration of this jumps out. Simply mind-numbing.
Does the list account for tie games he entered and let the other team take a lead.
Yes, June 7 and 10 were the two.
30 times Casilla has come in and not allowed a run. 30 times and some of those were 1+ games. You want to complain, try applauding.
Crawford is bad, Casilla is good. I’m curious. What color is the sky in your world?
Yes, I’ll complain about having a guy who’s leading the majors in blown saves, has more blown saves than Armando Benitez had in 2006, has more blown saves than ANY major league closer has for the last FOUR YEARS. At that’s just the “official” blown saves. There are three other losses he was responsible for, too.
He’s a terrible closer and it’s a disgrace that he’s been allowed to keep going and amass these statistics. At least in 2006, the Giants were a bad team not competing for anything. This is (or was) a team that was hoping and planning for a deep postseason run. It’s ridiculous.
NFL Texans may be for real
and
NFL Texans may be for real
and
Jimmy Garoppolo injures shoulder but is now “dating” a Gisele Bündchen look alike
One pitch and Odich goes to #14 on the bullpen depth chart and #1 on Bochy’s sh!t list.
I think he’s about #1 on mine, too.
THAT was a quick hook.
With 5 surgeries and the fact that his hero is Rod Beck and he lives in his RV parked in the Giants player lot….loves to hunt and fish – he could hang them up this off season.
If you’re talking about Osich, why would he possibly retire?
Have you heard any of his available interviews. He said “this last surgery” came just in time because he was gonna hang it up because he loves to fish and hunt and I am just telling you what Osich is a outlier.
Vin calling his final Dodger games against the Giants will be something to be savored and remembered.
MLB “may” pipe Vinnys live TV/Radio live feed over all airwaves in the Bay Area
A slice of americana MLB should celebrate appropriatly.
Perhaps they should team Vin with Jon Miller. They could tell stories while the rest of us watch the game.
Sounds good to me. Vin grew up a Giant fan. Could the Gs be Vin’s Rosebud?
Huge game today. It’s a day game after a night game
St Louis has their brilliant game manager, pitcher whisperer catcher guiding the staff through the game, even though he’s beat up, aging, and has played the entire series
The Giants have their brilliant game manager, pitcher whisperer catcher spitting sunflower seeds. He’s beat up, not aging, and ….took today off.
I have no idea how tired and beat up either guy is. But……
Gearrin for closer.
3 or 4 blown saves this year himself out of 7 save opportunities
Just a hiccup.
It is referred to as a Casilla
Not sure any were 9th inning jobs…
3- nothing
Of course it went over Pagan’s head…
Clear hit regardless of who is in LF
Nice job Kontos!
Another one of Lefty’s former Not My Guy
Thanks Kontos, you POS
Hate to nitpick these things but another questionable pitch call there on 2-2 count.
Agreed
Poor Robby Ray….he pukes on his bed and then on his sleeve to the Doyers who score 6 runs
Dodgers with six in the sixth, to tie it. Of course.
4-6-3 dp
After the season clean out the whole bullpen— all of them except maybe Law. Get rid of every single one of them. No exceptions. No excuses. Just start from scratch
*maybe* Law? Law has been awesome this year. Not seeing a reason to drop Strickland either.
We better have turned a DP with that lady, Hazel Baker, pinch running
Wow Panik took along time and almost hung Craw out to dry
Sad thing is, the Giants can’t come back from 3 runs down
Welcome Mr. Nathan
Nathan was not on the roster before the 1rst and as such cannot be on the post season roster right?
all you now have to be is “IN the organization on Aug 31st”
Here’s your Jitterbug cell phone, your greeters vest, and Tube of DentuCream…
I’m just in a bad baseball mood. 4 pitchers in an inning is annoying the shit out of me.
MLB WILL have a future rule and it will be called the BOCHY rule. Book it Dano
Yep, and I’m going to do something about it. I’m changing the channel.
Radio has a better detailed broadcast and we dont have to hear Kruke say Osich made a good pitch
Right. But no postgame wrap.
You lasted more than I did…
I noticed that return to the old poison lineup..
tv —off
Giants record when trailing after 7?
0-758?
How many games have they lost that weren’t blown saves = your answer. Thinking 40.
2009 through today. 17 and 34,098
Well one of them was game 5 of the Cardinal playoff series in 2014. See e.g. Ishikawa, Travis
Lately you’ve been down on SFG you feelin ok?
The Pumpkin Killer Closer is throwing blimps up there…
That only pitch by Nathan was a tad HIGH
Oh goodie. We have the top of the order.
OK…I do need Cialis to get excited for this.
Bathtub regatta?
RedTube is quicker
Bochy determined to have time to fish in the offseason.
Reyes to start the 8th, then Rosenthal if Reyes runs into trouble, then Oh in the 9th. I keep saying this but better get to Reyes
Siegrist
Yeah, still going to be Oh in the 9th though. I like our chances better against Siegrist.
Kevin Siegrist Pitching
Can we trade Casilla to the Cardinals right now so that our chances for a victory will increase?
What other manager would use him in the 9th?
Absolutely no one…
Several who may be deceased
Oh yeah i forgot about that! Work with me here.
PAGAN gets it started
All the politicians in San Francisco politics will be taken aback because Rose Pak – SF political power has died
Crawford goes deep right here….Hoping
Just got back. Wow … what a shocker. A night after Casilla blows a save. The Giants are laying an egg on offense. No surprises here.
I’m opening a bag of bbq chips to get my mind off this games probable outcome.
No surprise, Giants day game after a night game at home play like a tortoise on valium. I wish they could win, since first WC is at stake, but, whatever.
Accidental repost sorry
Giants face Kershaw tomorrow? HA!!!!
Sounds like a recipe for an unexpected victory
Posey should be playing first today..
He’s tired and we need him for when we are eliminated.
The sooner we are eliminated, the sooner Mac Williamson starts …… Also Kelby, Jarrett, etc.
Where would Belt play? Belt’s been hitting the ball hard. Posey has his day offs scheduled WAY in advance by the training staff…
Left field.
It’s a pennant race. Posey shouldn’t be relaxing, and the training staff doesn’t tell Posey or Bochy who’s going to sit on a particular day.
Ask around O Great One. He is not relaxing. They have a Matrix on the training staff wall as to which regulars days off are. Leave your comfort zone and call the stadium since you don’t believe me. The days off are scheduled via Dave Groeschner, the team doctors and then they tell Bohy.
Ok. I’ll call the stadium. Who should I ask for? Who did you ask for when you called?
My American Legion starting pitcher is a dugout staff member aka “Clubbie” – he told me that all the white dry marker boards are in the weight room – food room and
My American Legion baseball starting pitcher is a dugout staff member aka Clubbie. He said the white dry marker boards are in the weight room – lunch room and in the locker room. His name is James Uroz. Good luck TO
Left Field??
Then again, he has always wanted to pitch.
Like I have said over and over, the Giants have an offense issue. They play way to many 1 run games. Casilla has pitched in 25 1 run games. If you give have a 2.0 era you wind up blowing 5.5 of those games in average. They need to have a lead of more than 1 run for the last 3 innings is they want wins and not blown saves
Those 7 opening words could be your permanent lead for every post you make
Tell me Mr Wizard, do you think they would have almost a similar record in the second half as the first half if they scored 4.7 runs a game instead of 3.98 that they are scoring in the second half? They were a plus 73 in the first half while allowing 3.9 runs a game. In the second half they are minus 6 while allowing 4.8 runs a game. The pitching is almost as good as the first half. It is the offense and their inability to score runs.
Those first four are cool , too!
Notice that the Dodgers came back from a 7-1 deficit to tie. We may be six out tomorrow, in addition to losing first Wild Card. But that’s what good teams do ……
The season is over. Bochy lost it for us last night!!
The division race may be over, but not the wild card.
You did say this about 10 days ago also
And I was right 10 days ago. This team is managed by a brain dead stubborn goat who’s only good attribute was his knowledge of the bullpen. Now that the bullpen is a disaster … he’s lost and doesn’t know what to do. Just like in San Diego. His days are numbered.
2010
2012
2014
that’s why he gets one more year.
That was then. This is now.
R U still hitting from those short tees?
By his contract.
Poor decision but he wasnt pitching
When you send the idiot closer out who has blown 1000 saves this year. It’s your fault.
As the “Talking Heads” song goes, “We’re on the Road to Nowhere”.
Cayucos! Figured Kruk would like that. Good place for fireworks.
It is very nice down there.
Spent 5 years living on the central coast. I preferred Avila over Pismo and Cayucos & Morro Bay when it comes to beach towns, but overall, it was a good bubble livin’. Maybe someday I’ll move back.
How about Cardiff by the Sea?
Too south!
Now pitching. Giants closer Matt Cain. Lol
No Runs scored and a loss. If Casilla had done his job last night today would have been a win. Blame it on Rio….
So apparently Gearrin should have pitched the rest of the game!
These pitching changes are a joke. Bochy needs a check up.
He’s totally lost the only thing he is good at.
MLB should enforce a rule
As the brothers from my old hood use to say when someone did or said something stupid ” a check up from the neck up” !
Ha-ha. I’ve heard that one before, good one. Or as Cindy Lauper used to say, “He’s got geraniums in his cranium.”
That ones new to me but Cindy Lauper isnt what a doll back in The day
Which one of you made the comments this morning about getting ready to watch 5he Giants and 49ers lose LOL LOL! Hilarious stuff.
5,898 of them
Quit playin 😄
For real Mo
Lol
Guess Boch is saving Casilla for extra innings.
And nice one Matt.
Great execution by Molina
Romo is warming up, he’s not in the doghouse 🙂
That’s good to hear. Probably gave Boch a bottle of wine as an apology gift. Which wine say, “I’m sorry for my mock laughter when you pulled me from the game for Casilla”?
Wow…a hit and run. When was the last time the Giants did that?
Unfortunately the Giants will probably run Cain out there as a starter next year, again.
$21 Million isn’t to be sneezed at.
The good news is that next year is his last year.
And there is a pricy option, a la Zito’s.
It’s only $7.5 Mill. That will get you 3 and half years of Rennie Stennett, back in the day.
I pin this loss on the bullpen catcher and Steve Decker .
and Amy G and the Kettle Korn Vendor in section 231
how about the hot chocolate guy in the bleachers? “hot chocolate! and I’m not talking about myself!”
Great line! Must be “Brown Sugar”
Last time, I got the last of his whipped cream, but some of it landed on the guy sitting behind me who said “aw man, I’ve been creamed on by the hot chocolate guy!”
LOLLOLOLO i almost choked on my chipotle that was funny
Lol
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
The Kettle Corn Vendor usage put that over the top
Out of the base line Molina
Yeah, that neck tattoo is for sure creepy.
He should get it lasered OFF
it looks like there’s fungus growing on his neck.
Kind of incarceration-ish
Cards play Rockies and we play the Dodgers. SEASON OVER!!
There’s some posts over on the blog attached to Baggs’ article. It’s almost like the blog is in two or three places at the same time. In any case, today’s game is “same old, same old”. No momentum coming off the two victories that started this series. They just cannot generate a steady succession of 4 and 5 run games. It’s feast or famine.
Gs have developed an immunity to momentum.
They don’t ‘grind’ at all any more, just as you suggest, a succession of roller coaster rides.
Not sure what Bochy was thinking not going all out resting Posey and changing the lineup against a rookie pitcher today. Giants needed this game. Now they get Kershaw and Hill on back to back days. Can’t be giving away games like this anymore
It will all be over in two weeks.
Hate to beat a dead horse. Posey and others have “written down” regular scheduled days off for Posey and it is a medical issue not a Bochy issue
Then move his butt to third or first. I’m tired of him being tired. Molina has played everyday.
Molina didn’t suffer a near career ending injury either moron!
That was 9 years ago.
Not quite
doesn’t matter if it was last year or 10 years ago, injuries of that sort tend to linger plus the aging process.
Thank you E. Pacman makes fictional movies 🙂
There is argument about not if he nearly did, but which one. The one in 2008 being among the first.
http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/6479266/v3009131/molina-is-injured-in-collision-at-the-plate
liar !
You are such a stroontz
Stop making stuff up !
Peter I can prove it to you. Here is Sabes cell phone 415-793-3214
You dont have the courage
Are you using the Italian word “stroontz”?
yes
Strunzo
strunz
stroontz
My mom could cuss me out bigtime
That’s we called our kids when they acted up in public. No one would know the true meaning of the word. Some parents even thought it was cute. Little did they know.
So true, Mom was Italian and Dad French. Lots of yelling at the dinner table especially during the Thanksgiving 22 course meals. What were they thinking….
I blame my older brother for me getting sworn at under my mothers breath…lots of “fanculo”. And any female my brother brought home my mother thought was a “jezzabelle”
Peter I can prove it to you. Here is Sabes cell phone 415-793-3214
I dare ya to prove me wrong
Stop making shit up !
Sabes cell phone 415-793-3214
So you’re the guy leaving me the weird voice mails.
Attempt to be part of the fabric of society
SO the doctors forced Posey to have a day off today, I have a bridge to sell you , if you buy that one !
I’m only talking about your communication methods, Mensa
You like BS, I do not !
Oh the irony of that comment.
I thought Posey should play, and I said so.
You are an ill tempered nut job who cannot have mature conversations.
Win 3. Lose 3. Win 2. Lose 2.
And Belt strikes out!! Trade him in the off season. I’m tired of waiting for him to blossom. Move Posey to first.
It’s tough waiting for guys with .850 OPS to blossom. There’s so much space to move up from there!
Giants shut down by some rookie they’ve never seen before. Who woulda thought?
Let’s see in the span of like 12 hours I’ve had the following thoughts:
1) We’re taking this series, up 3-0!!
2) Various positive feelings..
3) We’ve almost got the Wildcard locked up! And you know what, the Dodgers are only 4 back- if we can just get within striking distance, wait who is coming in to pitch….?
4) What the FUCK is happening right now!
5) WHY???
6) Jesus christ
6) We’re definitely losing this next game.
7) Division way out of reach.
8) Wild card?? HAHAHAHAHHA
Agreed. But you know what? I’d rather lose by blown saves in the regular season than the postseason. Because if it’s postseason, it lives forever …..
So we’re reduced to preferred implements of death….
Notice how the Cardinals closer actually gets hitters out.
Mister Belt is way too good at striking out for a guy that has mid-teens HR power. He averages a strikeout per game but they tend to come in clumps.
TRADE HIM!!!!
How many Hurricanes and Red Martini’s ?
I had Fish and Chips for lunch. Bad choice. Way too hot today.
Lol
Should of frozen it b4 eating it.
Watch out its coming WHATS COMING the outrage over the unhapiness with Belt.
cute cop.
Multi tool player.
Together You’re Cougars
I think I’ve got another 15 years to go until cougar life.
Thatta Babe!
Wait, never mind, I just googled the age parameter for being a cougar and it starts at 35 (WTF?!). So 5 years to go. Well gee golly whiz.
Well crap, I didn’t think I was cougar age.
Do you have cougar chest?
Panther, not cougar.
Lol lol
That was hilariousn
Some can be
Blown save effect in full force of operation.
I love the Giants just as all of you do here. Heck, we’re passionate about it. Having said that, I just can’t bring myself to watch tomorrow night’s game. Maybe I’ll record it.
Have a great rest of the day TWG’s.
Yes. True that is. Add fair amount of illness. Losing hurts.
Betcha watch it?
Crazy talk.
See you tomorrow!
The rest of us are masochists.
This series was all too similar to the one against the Mets. Win 2 lose 2, lose last 2, get shut out last game of the series.
Can’t wait to see the line up tomorrow. Yay Bochy!!!
Would’ve been nice to take the series last night but I guess it’s more important to give Casilla some confidence than to make it to the postseason.
Big Peter Johnson gets my game ball for today especially since he reluctantly left the Baggs site to join us
If he was Big Peter Johnson, he wouldn’t act this way
Ah, so , cute, you and your buddy Clutch stick together .
I’m so disgusted with this season!!
How many times have the Giants been shutout this season?
I have no idea but it seems like we were never shutout in the first 90 games and around 7 or 8 times since.
It’s such a beautiful day outside and I’m sick because the Giants are inept.
#giantineptinitis
When we lose this board is pure comic relief got damn.
But it’s the end of the world, dammit!! ;~)
Time for batting practice.
With Meulens coaching them, BP doesn’t matter.
Actually they should take BP off for a day. They’re at the point where they’re trying too hard to get out of their personal funks. They need to get loosened up and rested. I think extra BP is contraindicated.
Duffman and Panik are still on the same fantasy football league (awww): http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/article/Duffy-still-in-league-as-Giants-fantasy-9229926.php
peach — you need to sign up for the brandons blog and you would have had the whole scoop on this : )
Ha perhaps, I am only occasionally interested in BCraw’s latest playlist and Belt’s latest recommended movie. I don’t even like football (in fact, I strongly dislike it), but damn if I’m not interested in everything Duffster does! Now that is a blog I’d subscribe to 🙂
I’ve become expert at coping with Battered Fan Syndrome
It felt like Bochy put as much importance in this game, as he does in those May Sunday afternoon games where it feels like he’s basically throwing out the white flag. Please, can he get promoted to one of the 492 ‘special advisor’ positions they had out like candy in this organization.
The character-filled Dodgers have come from 7-1 down and are now up 9-7 in the 8th inning. We’re going to be six games in back of the Dodgers with 13 games left. Realistically, even if we win four of the six games we have left with them that only gains 2 games back. The Division race is just over. Now we’re in a pack of chihuahuas with STL and NYM fighting over two pork chop bones.
That is correct. And I think to expect us to take 2 from them at their house is generous.
And then we have four more with the Padres.
The only good part about all this is that the Dodgers should have it clinched by the last weekend.
Even better if the Giants are eliminated. No sense in being embarrassed in the playoffs.
I totally agree. it took 8 years to get over Game Six of the 2002 World Series …..
Your last sentence is spot on. We can throw Cain and Peavy out there in the final weekend so that the regular starters get extra rest in the event that we win the one-game playoff … if we even get that far.
As I recall, we were pretty character filled against the Snakes as well.
I cannot even recall a game against anyone where we came from 6 runs back to take the lead. Instead, when we get 2 or 3 down we roll over die.
Maybe, but my point is the futility of using the Snakes as an example of much of anything. LOL, they’re performance against us is most of the reason we’re still hanging on by a thread.
Hard to dispute that but still, we haven’t shown any comeback power whatsoever in the second half of the season. If we don’t score first, we lose. I don’t have the stats at my fingertips but it just seems like the minute we get down by more than 2 we’re done.
Get ahead and stay ahead with superior pitching and defense is been the MO of he Giants for a long time. But your right, once they get off the horse with offense, and try and hold a lead, if they happen to fall behind, they’re such a poor contact team, even getting a productive out becomes a chore. What I’d be curious to see is how many runners they’ve had at 3B with less than two outs, failed to score.
It’s downright startling to me how flat they get after falling behind. They’ve had so many aborted rally attempts where a couple guys get on with 0 or 1 out and then their next few hitters pop out or roll over and hit weak grounders. That’s my way of saying you’re absolutely right about productive outs becoming a chore.
They were never going to catch the Dodgers. That ship sailed a couple of weeks ago
I bet the dodgers are saying, man our offense is great…..
During every postgame conference, I think, “Boch must have really bad sleep apnea”.
More like advanced Alzheimers.
Really? I just lost an aunt to Alzheimer’s?
His last walk to the mound I thought, jeez he looks old! Sad really.
I hope Lefty isn’t having a bon fire with all of her bobblehead dolls right now.
Since the Giants had the best record in baseball, they have been passed by 9 teams and tied by 2 others… 11 teams caught up in 2 months. That may have never happened in any season from the All Star break forward. 3 more teams are nipping at their heels…
Wow
It’s basically the bullpen.
The Giants have never had a high powered offense. They won with great starting pitching, great relief pitching, and a resourceful offense that could score a few runs per game.
The bullpen killed them, especially closer.
You need to go back and look at their WS teams and look at how many runs scored they averaged. You will find that they were well above league average in scoring those years. In fact the first half of this year they were scoring even more runs per game than those series years. The second half during their horrendous stretch, they were low 3 runs scored per game. They have gotten a little better since but not much. Thus Hitting and scoring runs was how they won Series years when combined with really good pitching. I dare say that if they scored runs on par with the first half of the year, they have a similar record to the first half. It is not the pitching. It is the hitting and scoring runs.
Giants average 4.7 runs a game in the first half. That is well above the league average of 4.1. They area averaging under 4 runs a game in the second half. It is the offense.
Giants average 4.7 runs a game in the first half. That is well above the league average of 4.4. They area averaging under 4 runs a game in the second half. It is the offense not the pitching. It looks like the pitching because they are not scoring but the pitching is almost the same. In the first half they were just under 4 runs a game allowed in the second half it is just over 4 runs a game. The difference is the horrendous scoring not the pitching. The pitching is just highlighted because the hitting is not scoring.
So the blown saves are normal? I don’t think so. Look at the 2014 postseason. We had a lot of trouble scoring in many of those games. We won because our bullpen was lights out and we manufactured runs.
Unless you are an elite closer and given more than a 1 run lead then yes those blow saves are normal. If you consider the fact the NL league score 4.4 runs per game that means on average you will give up 1 or more runs in the final 3 innings most of the time. It is a run scoring issue as the Giants are terrible. If they scored at the league average int he second half, the blown saves would not be nearly as bad as they would be protecting 2 and 3 run leads and not 1 run leads and those blown saves would get cut by 50% to 75%.
The Even Year BS – “got some of the GE-ExtraBaggs-TWG fanatics *going*” There was never such a thing.
Time to retool and then rebuild in the off season around Bum-Moore-JC and Marge.
Belt – Beede and Arroyo to Houston for Altuve
Move Panik to third base
Move Nunez to centerfield
Play Mac and Parker EVERY day in LF depending on the opposing pitcher
Bring up Chris Shaw for first base
Pick up one of KC’s bull pen guys for our closer
I know most of us felt ” they aren’t as good as they look” back then…I wish I felt ” they aren’t as bad as they look” now. But, they are.
You positive
Yeah, let’s trade the whole team.
That was unexpected
Man I had fun reading your post! I applaud your trade Belt idea (although Altuve is the face of the Stros so I doubt they’ll move him. I think Panik stays at 2B he clicks so well with Craw. Maybe Arroyo at 3B? Nunez could get look at CF but I think he takes over LF.
Need a 1B/C type who can spell Posey for 40-50 games a year while adding some power to the offense. Primary need is a reliever or two to settle down the pen.
Thanks
I think those three could pull Altuve who would be fine with Craw
Craw has had many 2bman
.633 ball prior to the ASG and .372 ball since then. Talk about a schizo team!!!
4.7 runs a game scored pre all star break while allowing 3.9 runs a game and 3.98 runs scored a game in the second half while allowing 4.08 runs a game. They have a scoring issue. You score below league average you lose more games than you win. They have a scoring issue.
Good to hear Fleming and Kuip talking about “post-blown-save” funk. I really do think gut wrenching losses come with next day hangovers.
I was wondering how they did after all the other blown saves. I can remember back to SD and the flat performance. I think it’s possible that mind may be willing but some how the body says it does not matter they will only blow it again. Just speculation nothing scientific.
Scoot down below. Lefty recapped it
Thanks found it.
What’s funny about the Giants BP record is that although they have 28 Blown Saves to tie for the lead in that category, the have 115 Holds which leads the majors. The Dodgers for comparison have 97 HDs and 20 BS. To me that just says too many runners on base, coupled with too little offense. Given the risk exposure, it’s surprising they haven’t blown more saves.
We gotta get Greek going.
The weekend in WWE kickball… http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/sports/nfl-scores-schedule.html?hpw&rref=sports&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well
To those who haven’t read it, AP’s article on it, and the response to it. http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/giants-notes-law-strickland-line-ninth-inning-work
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These seats will work! Scout, Sincere… Eat your heart out!!
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